Romulus Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 What is going on with him at the moment? I know he had injury problems last year but no appearances yet this season and only named on the bench twice I believe. Surely deserves a run in the team given Clare gets almost unlimited chances in the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Just now, Mort said: What is going on with him at the moment? I know he had injury problems last year but no appearances yet this season and only named on the bench twice I believe. Surely deserves a run in the team given Clare gets almost unlimited chances in the team. Probably best to ask Harry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canada Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 If we're signing another midfielder then I think he'll go out on loan soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck berrys hairline Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Not as good as people are making out to be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Probably not doing it in training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robjam Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Think his development has stalled. Seen him pre season a couple of times and wasnt great at all Needs a Loan deal I think to get game time and toughen up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenNaismith Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Injuries have severely hampered his progress, especially physically. Needs to bulk up a fair bit to get to where they want him to be. A loan move would maybe be best for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Just now, StevenNaismith said: Injuries have severely hampered his progress, especially physically. Needs to bulk up a fair bit to get to where they want him to be. A loan move would maybe be best for him. If he is unlikely to feature in the first team the first team then that’s what should happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Sounds like he needs a spell seeing what happens if you don't make it tbh. Watching Si Ferrys interviews with guys like Michael Gardyne, all of them say going out on loan to these wee clubs in wee towns is eye opening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Worrying for Cochrane, Irving & McDonald we are signing all these midfielders! Levein took ALL the credit when these boys broke through! Now we have a bit dough to spend on wages there vanished! How on earth can and more importantly should Bozanic or Clare be infront of these guys! It’s criminal! The three of them should be heavily involved but next we will get the “not a good time to bleed youngsters” excuse! The playing side of our football club from Daly to Levein to Zlamal to Uche is totally fecked! Almost feel corrupt we are that sh1te. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Gone from our best midfielder at age 16, to anonymous at 18.. I heard from a friend who’s lad plays in the younger age groups (Caveat that with its purely second hand therefore may be guff) that he’s taken the eye off the ball since he found a girlfriend. Hopefully not - needs to kick on now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 We don't seem to be the best at transitioning promising youngsters into first team regulars.We used to be but not anymore.Some of these guys are still really young though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexton Hardcastle Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: Gone from our best midfielder at age 16, to anonymous at 18.. I heard from a friend who’s lad plays in the younger age groups (Caveat that with its purely second hand therefore may be guff) that he’s taken the eye off the ball since he found a girlfriend. Hopefully not - needs to kick on now Was he though? Literally had a couple of good games. The usual mental expectations put on the kid as normal with our support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Also the majority want us to sign more midfielders but then bemoan youngsters are not getting a chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Jambo Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 He is simply not as good as people have said he is. He is absolutely not the answer to our current issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mintmyster Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 38 minutes ago, robjam said: Think his development has stalled. Seen him pre season a couple of times and wasnt great at all Needs a Loan deal I think to get game time and toughen up Exactly my opinion. Always difficult (and probably unfair) to judge players when they’re getting limited game time but I thought he was poor as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackshades Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 I didn't think he was that good at Albion rovers last Tuesday either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 23 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: Gone from our best midfielder at age 16, to anonymous at 18.. I heard from a friend who’s lad plays in the younger age groups (Caveat that with its purely second hand therefore may be guff) that he’s taken the eye off the ball since he found a girlfriend. Hopefully not - needs to kick on now Needs to grow up, apply himself and behave, is what I have heard (second hand as well) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 19 minutes ago, vegas-voss said: We don't seem to be the best at transitioning promising youngsters into first team regulars.We used to be but not anymore.Some of these guys are still really young though. Age or lack of maturity is usually the issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Are we getting the best out of anyone these days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byyy The Light Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, vegas-voss said: We don't seem to be the best at transitioning promising youngsters into first team regulars.We used to be but not anymore.Some of these guys are still really young though. Its a tough one. Morrison got pelters at Tynecastle last year. Clare also gets pelters and he’s only 22 and very inexperienced. Frustrating thing for me is there doesn’t seem to be any logic or structure to their development. Connor Smith got launched in for a debut away at Easter Road for example. Out of nowhere. Same with a couple of others. It all seems very random at times. Edited August 12, 2019 by Byyy The Light Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansel Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Hard to judge a player in a struggling team but reminds me of Stephen Simmons - young player scores against old firm and everyone bigs him up only to come crashing down to earth with a bump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newton51 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Hopefully Gary naysmith can sort out a loan with the right team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 55 minutes ago, Mort said: What is going on with him at the moment? I know he had injury problems last year but no appearances yet this season and only named on the bench twice I believe. Surely deserves a run in the team given Clare gets almost unlimited chances in the team. He’s got Levein flu.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TemasekJambo Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 (edited) 33 minutes ago, red said: Worrying for Cochrane, Irving & McDonald we are signing all these midfielders! Levein took ALL the credit when these boys broke through! Now we have a bit dough to spend on wages there vanished! How on earth can and more importantly should Bozanic or Clare be infront of these guys! It’s criminal! The three of them should be heavily involved but next we will get the “not a good time to bleed youngsters” excuse! The playing side of our football club from Daly to Levein to Zlamal to Uche is totally fecked! Almost feel corrupt we are that sh1te. Bozanic maybe not but Clare deserves his place, he was one of the few players on Saturday who got the ball down and tried to do something with it Edited August 12, 2019 by TemasekJambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, Byyy The Light said: Its a tough one. Morrison got pelters at Tynecastle last year. Clare also gets pelters and he’s only 22 and very inexperienced. Frustrating thing for me is there doesn’t seem to be any logic or structure to their development. Connor Smith got launched in for a debut away at Easter Road for example. Out of nowhere. Same with a couple of others. It all seems very random at times. Completely agree.I do have to say we as a support are notoriously harsh on youngsters as well imo.Even Hickey these season has taken pelters for what in all honesty was a lack of experience and nativity nothing more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Growing pains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 14 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: He’s got Levein flu.... Justifiably so if the stories are true. Levein keeping it in house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 (edited) ... Edited August 12, 2019 by busby1985 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Issues with fitness and physique hampering him. Finished bottom of the squad in fitness tests run by sports scientists during pre-season. Once his footballing body catches up with his footballing brain he’ll hopefully start progressing again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Needs to be playing every week. Pains me to say it, but he needs a loan deal to get playing again. Not a good environment for him to develop in at the moment with hoofball and new midfielders being signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarneyBattles44 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 30 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: Needs to grow up, apply himself and behave, is what I have heard (second hand as well) Wee guy is living the dream . lose the fringe work hard and take every chance he gets before he dissapears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 1 hour ago, kingantti1874 said: Gone from our best midfielder at age 16, to anonymous at 18.. I heard from a friend who’s lad plays in the younger age groups (Caveat that with its purely second hand therefore may be guff) that he’s taken the eye off the ball since he found a girlfriend. Hopefully not - needs to kick on now That and a few other bits and pieces going on i’d been told but that was pretty much the jist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 18 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: Justifiably so if the stories are true. Levein keeping it in house. I have no idea if the stories are true - with respect neither do you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newton51 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Does look lightweight compared to other players at his age. Definitely has ability but maybe not physically ready Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: I have no idea if the stories are true - with respect neither do you. Correct, that’s what I said. ‘If’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 That’s the problem of getting your debut at such a young age. The expectation is that you will be a first team regular by now but in reality he will still find it difficult to cope physically playing in the centre of midfield against men. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 11 minutes ago, Diadora Van Basten said: That’s the problem of getting your debut at such a young age. The expectation is that you will be a first team regular by now but in reality he will still find it difficult to cope physically playing in the centre of midfield against men. So do you think he was rushed into the first team too young? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Hasn't impressed when he has played. Some posters that watch the different levels have said he's been average for them as well. Said last year he should go on loan, still think he should. Not good enough right now, also I'd be wary of pitching any young players in until we win a few games. The crowd turns fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: So do you think he was rushed into the first team too young? Careful, comments like that could turn this thread into another Levein bashing thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 1 minute ago, soonbe110 said: Careful, comments like that could turn this thread into another Levein bashing thread If the cap fits.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 A loan for a season would be the best for the lad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 So talk of a future sell on fee is slightly premature. You'd think I'd have learned after the" Ian Black is painting houses to make ends meet" debacle. Damn me to hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts1975 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 1 hour ago, jambobob61 said: Not ready at the moment, yet another lightweight midfielder! Probably spoil him for good if he was simply chucked in to a really toiling 'team'. Never stopped him running rings around “broony” and making him look an abject idiot for 90 minutes. And that was in the past he has ability. He might still need to bulk up a bit, physically, but he has talent, no question would rather seeing him get some loan time than staying in the background not getting any 1st team action if this is what’s really required Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 1 hour ago, soonbe110 said: Justifiably so if the stories are true. Levein keeping it in house. I'm guessing the same story I've heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 31 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: So do you think he was rushed into the first team too young? Not necessarily but there is a change in attitude to young players once they have played for the first team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Just now, Diadora Van Basten said: Not necessarily but there is a change in attitude to young players once they have played for the first team. A change in who’s attitude and what change is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Rabbit Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 He’s been poor for a while. Lucky for him scoring against Celtic means you’re a world beater for a lot of our fans. Like a lot of youngsters seems to have loads of talent just the wrong application. Agree that a loan move would be best. More likely we’ll have moaning regarding why he doesn’t start week in/ week out despite being anonymous in every game he’s played for the last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mr Rabbit said: He’s been poor for a while. Lucky for him scoring against Celtic means you’re a world beater for a lot of our fans. Not just the fans, Levein said he was the best midfield player at Tynecastle last season and could not wait to get him back from injury! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokyowalnut Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: A change in who’s attitude and what change is that? Maybe he isn't putting the work in, during sessions and out with sessions. That's on him. Not everything lies at the door of Craig Levein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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