Vlad Magic Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Our recruitment has been excellent. The team will settle and begin to gell. Levein will find the winning formula. We are nowhere near as bad as Hibs with Heckingbottom in charge. Enjoy the ride. FTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marczero Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Love your optimism squad looks good but leveins time is up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviskan Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Vlad Magic said: Our recruitment has been excellent. The team will settle and begin to gell. Levein will find the winning formula. We are nowhere near as bad as Hibs with Heckingbottom in charge. Enjoy the ride. FTH That’s the yardstick we should all measure our team by, at least we’re not as pish as Hibs...Jesus wept! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Pizzorno Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Have a word please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcjambo Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Just now, Marczero said: Love your optimism squad looks good but leveins time is up Yes let's sack the manager just when we've given two key players four year contracts and Haring, Uche and Souttar long extensions. Let's keep our fingers crossed they want to play for the new manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J80MBO Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, Vlad Magic said: Our recruitment has been excellent. The team will settle and begin to gell. Levein will find the winning formula. We are nowhere near as bad as Hibs with Heckingbottom in charge. Enjoy the ride. FTH Ye we just have to ride out this 2-3 year terrible spell we are having 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviskan Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 minute ago, tcjambo said: Yes let's sack the manager just when we've given two key players four year contracts and Haring, Uche and Souttar long extensions. Let's keep our fingers crossed they want to play for the new manager. Good idea...let’s keep Craig no matter how bad results get, as he’s given out two four year contracts! Laughable, seriously embarrassing stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_T Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Deviskan said: Good idea...let’s keep Craig no matter how bad results get, as he’s given out two four year contracts! Laughable, seriously embarrassing stuff. Quite. Again this highlights the need for the DoF and Head Coach to be segregated roles as it's farcical to have someone doing both roles simultaneously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxfee Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Oh good thread number 102 on the same tosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J80MBO Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, tcjambo said: Yes let's sack the manager just when we've given two key players four year contracts and Haring, Uche and Souttar long extensions. Let's keep our fingers crossed they want to play for the new manager. Ye cos they are playing for levein 👌like the rest of the players last 2 years 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCrae Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 I think the signings made this year have been good. Our problem is the team needed more players to be signed by now. Another strong midfield player, a striker and a new keeper could set us up for a very good season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, tcjambo said: Yes let's sack the manager just when we've given two key players four year contracts and Haring, Uche and Souttar long extensions. Let's keep our fingers crossed they want to play for the new manager. That’s football life. Our very own manager said it when he took over in his first spell. Words to the effect that players are ‘durable’ and just get on with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 On paper the team is decent. That's a decent thing to be optimistic about. They are getting no coaching or leadership from the bench though. Levein and Co could manage Barca and make them look shockingly bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviskan Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, McCrae said: I think the signings made this year have been good. Our problem is the team needed more players to be signed by now. Another strong midfield player, a striker and a new keeper could set us up for a very good season. Struggling to understand the logic... You state we have made good signings so far, and that if we sign a few more we could have a very good season. Please explain why we have been pish so far then? Is it because of the manager...meaning any new signings will simply have a minimal effect once they’re hamstrung by his godawful tactics? The players are not the problem! Edited August 11, 2019 by Deviskan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marczero Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 9 minutes ago, tcjambo said: Yes let's sack the manager just when we've given two key players four year contracts and Haring, Uche and Souttar long extensions. Let's keep our fingers crossed they want to play for the new manager. So how long should we wait 2 league wins since early Feb is quite frankly not good enough I’m quite happy for Levein to work in the Academy as he’s done a great job in that department , but he ain’t going to take the first team anywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 11 minutes ago, tcjambo said: Yes let's sack the manager just when we've given two key players four year contracts and Haring, Uche and Souttar long extensions. Let's keep our fingers crossed they want to play for the new manager. The players arent playing for the current manager!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Vlad Magic said: Our recruitment has been excellent. The team will settle and begin to gell. Levein will find the winning formula. We are nowhere near as bad as Hibs with Heckingbottom in charge. Enjoy the ride. FTH If the only desire you have is to be better than Hibs then it is time to give up, being better than them should be a given and something that clubs like Albion Rovers and Annan Athletic (with no disrespect to either club) should be aiming for. Edited August 11, 2019 by portobellojambo1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gorgie Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Enjoy the ride. Which part of this ride has been enjoyable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 24 minutes ago, Vlad Magic said: Our recruitment has been excellent. The team will settle and begin to gell. Levein will find the winning formula. We are nowhere near as bad as Hibs with Heckingbottom in charge. Enjoy the ride. FTH Nah, let’s sack the manager after 2 games. Moan like ****, boo, kill any positivity, argue, try and out do each other with new levels of hyperbolic hysteria. Positivity is frowned upon. 👍🏼 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 26 minutes ago, Marczero said: Love your optimism squad looks good but leveins time is up 2 minutes after the OP, just 2 minutes. Its almost like some bores have this non stop repetative shite on speed dial every time a new thread comes up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 I enjoyed the game yesterday. I'm sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 14 minutes ago, Deviskan said: Struggling to understand the logic... You state we have made good signings so far, and that if we sign a few more we could have a very good season. Please explain why we have been pish so far then? Is it because of the manager...meaning any new signings will simply have a minimal effect once they’re hamstrung by his godawful tactics? The players are not the problem! If you just thought about it for a few minutes you would know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandylejambo Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said: Nah, let’s sack the manager after 2 games. Moan like ****, boo, kill any positivity, argue, try and out do each other with new levels of hyperbolic hysteria. Positivity is frowned upon. 👍🏼 if you find anything positive about Hearts performances, let us know and we'll do a jig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 It is a fair point that the team does need a couple of games at least to gel. That was the first time that team had played together. I’d expect though to at least scrape a win at home against the newly promoted team whilst we started to gel - although promoted teams do often still have a bit of momentum and confidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_jailer Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 18 minutes ago, McCrae said: I think the signings made this year have been good. Our problem is the team needed more players to be signed by now. Another strong midfield player, a striker and a new keeper could set us up for a very good season. Can I be greedy and ask for a right winger to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 I think we’ve made good signings but they are not being managed / coached (call it whatever). players will be used to changing of managers and indeed some may welcome it ? im sure I read that Cathros record was the worst in our history. Levein must be very very close to beating this. ive no confidence he will find any winning formula. He drops players for no reason never to be seen the next week, plays players out of position and makes ridiculous substitutions most of the time (like yesterday). he is a Hearts great and I’ll always love him for it but the last thing he deserves is to be hounded out by protests etc but that’s what I think may well happen if results don’t come in the next 3 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 28 minutes ago, Deviskan said: That’s the yardstick we should all measure our team by, at least we’re not as pish as Hibs...Jesus wept! So pre season a target for many was to be not as pish as Aberdeen. I think given their result today we might claim to be not as pish as them or hibs. Who knows. Maybe Ross County are the one we will be chasing. It sure wont be St Mirren. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviskan Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: If you just thought about it for a few minutes you would know How about you enlighten us all? Why will one or two more signings suddenly change the way our teams set up, how attacking they are...how ambitious we are in our play? Why will a couple of new signings change the same style of play we’ve endured since promotion? Levein was bad enough before his health scare...but that completely took the last bit of fire out of his belly, and now our team really are a pinpoint accurate reflection of our managers character...dull, boring and safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviskan Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, JFK-1 said: So pre season a target for many was to be not as pish as Aberdeen. I think given their result today we might claim to be not as pish as them or hibs. Who knows. Maybe Ross County are the one we will be chasing. It sure wont be St Mirren. If that was your yardstick...and the ‘many’ you referenced, then god help us. Going into a season hoping not to be as pish as anyone really does smack of defeatism. In fact, that’s probably the exact mindset I’d imagine our Management team have. Edited August 11, 2019 by Deviskan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Magic Posted August 11, 2019 Author Share Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Deviskan said: How about you enlighten us all? Why will one or two more signings suddenly change the way our teams set up, how attacking they are...how ambitious we are in our play? Why will a couple of new signings change the same style of play we’ve endured since promotion? Levein was bad enough before his health scare...but that completely took the last bit of fire out of his belly, and now our team really are a pinpoint accurate reflection of our managers character...dull, boring and safe. I didn’t see that when we got narrowly beaten off Aberdeen? Edited August 11, 2019 by Vlad Magic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VALDOS' Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Vlad Magic said: Our recruitment has been excellent. The team will settle and begin to gell. Levein will find the winning formula. We are nowhere near as bad as Hibs with Heckingbottom in charge. Enjoy the ride. FTH The recruitment has been questionable to say the least over the last 2 or 3 seasons, that's been half the bloody problem. Edited August 11, 2019 by VALDOS' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazinho88 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Deviskan said: If that was your yardstick...and the ‘many’ you referenced, then god help us. Going into a season hoping not to be as pish as anyone really does smack of defeatism. It smacks of a very Hibs like attitude. Edit: not an accusation against the poster I must add Edited August 11, 2019 by dazinho88 Edit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviskan Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Vlad Magic said: I didn’t see that when we got narrowly beaten off Aberdeen? Were your eyes glued together for the majority of the match? Apart from a 10 minute spell...we were once again boring and negative. In the last couple of seasons I can literally only remember one match that the team got me excited by their style of play...when we beat Celtic 4-0. In fact I’d love to ask Craig why he’s never set us up like that ever again...why we’ve not pressed teams like that again and had a real go...it’s fecking mystifying. Edited August 11, 2019 by Deviskan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Magic Posted August 11, 2019 Author Share Posted August 11, 2019 18 minutes ago, portobellojambo1 said: If the only desire you have is to be better than Hibs then it is time to give up, being better than them should be a given and something that clubs like Albion Rovers and Annan Athletic (with no disrespect to either club) should be aiming for. We are better than that shower of mutants however in a freak display they finished above us in the history books so YES my desire is to finish above them. Rewrite that particular anomaly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julienbrellier Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 we do have the players you are right about that and recruitment has been good. The obvious issue when the team isn't performing is the manager. Persisting with Sean Clare alone should merit a sacking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, Deviskan said: If that was your yardstick...and the ‘many’ you referenced, then god help us. Going into a season hoping not to be as pish as anyone really does smack of defeatism. In fact, that’s probably the exact mindset I’d imagine our Management team have. I don't quite understand where you're coming from, take Rangers for example. Isn't their target to be not as pish as Celtic? Isn't everybody's target to be not so pish as most if not quite all? If Hearts aren't so pish as Hibs and Aberdeen that's a potential Europa league spot because most are even more pish than they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviskan Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 I actually think Sean Clare could be a great player for us...but like a long line of other players we’ve had, the confidence and simple joy of playing football looks like it’s been drained out of him under the Managers tactics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 OP is quite correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Magic Posted August 11, 2019 Author Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Deviskan said: I actually think Sean Clare could be a great player for us...but like a long line of other players we’ve had, the confidence and simple joy of playing football looks like it’s been drained out of him under the Managers tactics. An interesting admission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karipidis Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 These threads really need to stop. There is absolutely nothing positive going to come of Levein being the manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William H. Bonney Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Op is high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviskan Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Just now, JFK-1 said: I don't quite understand where you're coming from, take Rangers for example. Isn't their target to be not as pish as Celtic? Isn't everybody's target to be not so pish as most if not quite all? If Hearts aren't so pish as Hibs and Aberdeen that's a potential Europa league spot because most are even more pish than they are. Completely disagree... Rangers fans will ‘expect’ to be better than Celtic...they won’t want to not be as ‘pish’ as Celtic. The phrase ‘not be as pish as’ is completely and utterly negative, and smacks of feeling inadequate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 15 minutes ago, Deviskan said: How about you enlighten us all? Why will one or two more signings suddenly change the way our teams set up, how attacking they are...how ambitious we are in our play? Why will a couple of new signings change the same style of play we’ve endured since promotion? Levein was bad enough before his health scare...but that completely took the last bit of fire out of his belly, and now our team really are a pinpoint accurate reflection of our managers character...dull, boring and safe. None of us know do we? I could easily respond by saying how do you know that a change of management will improve results but I won’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, Vlad Magic said: We are better than that shower of mutants however in a freak display they finished above us in the history books so YES my desire is to finish above them. Rewrite that particular anomaly. Would that apply if at the end of the season they finished bottom of the league and we finished 2nd bottom. Would you consider that as an achivement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkishcap Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Dot net and JKB are tonight a mirror image. One unhappy city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviskan Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Just now, soonbe110 said: None of us know do we? I could easily respond by saying how do you know that a change of management will improve results but I won’t. So we continue doing the same thing we’ve done since promotion then? Christ on a bike...some of you are completely lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Magic Posted August 11, 2019 Author Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Dino Velvet said: Op is high. OP supports Hearts. Feel free to discuss the points I raised and I will reply. If you can’t manage that s suggest a career selling BigMacs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Just now, Deviskan said: Completely disagree... Rangers fans will ‘expect’ to be better than Celtic...they won’t want to not be as ‘pish’ as Celtic. The phrase ‘not be as pish as’ is completely and utterly negative, and smacks of feeling inadequate. Disagree with what? I wasn't the originator of the 'not as pish as' remark I merely repeated it let's say facetiously because I deemed it overly negative too but being not as pish as means better than. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Magic Posted August 11, 2019 Author Share Posted August 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, portobellojambo1 said: Would that apply if at the end of the season they finished bottom of the league and we finished 2nd bottom. Would you consider that as an achivement. Dont be ridiculous. We would never finish 2nd bottom!! 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviskan Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 minute ago, JFK-1 said: Disagree with what? I wasn't the originator of the 'not as pish as' remark I merely repeated it let's say facetiously because I deemed it overly negative too but being not as pish as means better than. Did you or didn’t you say: “don't quite understand where you're coming from, take Rangers for example. Isn't their target to be not as pish as Celtic? Isn't everybody's target to be not so pish as most if not quite all?” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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