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2 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said:

 

Australia have 6 lefties and England pick a left arm spinner. Hmmm.

 

Surely their are some right arm off spinners in the country.

 

Expect a greentop for Archer but that also suits the Aussies. 


Jonno, listening to TMS on the road up to Pittodrie all the chat was about How do you Solve a Problem like Steven Smith? Turned out that his greatest foes were actually part time pie bowlers. In terms of how prolific he is against different syles of bowlers the only one that was "normal" was left arm spinners. I think you have your answer there!

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4 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said:

 

You could be right, robbo.


Just remembered! It was Dean Elgar, S Africa's opening batsman and very occasional left arm slow. He has taken just 14 wickets in his 56 Test match career ... 2 of them were Smith! It probably provoked the cheating ****er to resort to sandpaper 😂

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Raining so we don't know the teams yet. Forecast isn't good for today.

 

Meantime a bit of a mention. If you follow BBC cricket text or listen to the radio you might know their main statistician Andy Zaltzman. He was on a lot during the World Cup. Always really interesting stats.

 

Anyway he's also a stand up comic and is here at the Fringe. 4.30pm Stand 3, York Place.  I saw him last year but didn't realise. He's quite good, really sharp. Show this year takes audience suggestions to comment on. Quite left wing, anti Brexit if that makes any difference.

 

He certainly thinks the sandpaper 3 were singled out a bit much. Says he might do a cricket show next year. 

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This is real cricket statto stuff but I share with you .....


With the whole of the 1st day washed out the match is now officially a 4 day match.

 

So what?

 

One wee quirk is that the "follow on" rule changes. For a 5 day game the follow on is 200 runs but for a 3 or 4 day game it is 150 runs. Btw if the game had got underway and it had been, say, the 2nd or 3rd day that had been washed out the game would NOT be considered a 4 day game.

So when England enforce the follow on with Aussies 160 runs adrift after the 1st innings and all your friends, work colleagues and family are left scratching their heads and wailing in confusion, certain in the knowledge that Test matches have a 200 run follow on, you can step forward and explain all, thanks to Kickback 👍

 

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Roy just doesn't look like an opening batsman to me.

He just doesn't leave enough alone outside off stump. A basic requirement for any opener.

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Thought football fans were fickle/moaning *******s but English cricket is different level.

 

Playing poor on World Cup: get them all to ****, why is Root captain etc

Win World Cup: always knew root was the man, what a team, best in the world

Opening days of first test: 5-0, easy street

Now they’ve shat it: GTF, never good enough, sack them all.

 

And repeat on a four monthly cycle when they win/lose a test match.

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1 hour ago, robbo1874 said:

Roy just doesn't look like an opening batsman to me.

He just doesn't leave enough alone outside off stump. A basic requirement for any opener.

He's a decent one day player, but doesnt gave the technique and patience to be a Test batsman, IMO

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2 minutes ago, babywhalo said:

He's a decent one day player, but doesnt gave the technique and patience to be a Test batsman, IMO

Burns on the other hand looks every inch the opener. 

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13 minutes ago, robbo1874 said:

Burns on the other hand looks every inch the opener. 

He does. Funny guard though.

 

Hope Denly gets runs too.

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50 minutes ago, Sexton Hardcastle said:

Thought football fans were fickle/moaning *******s but English cricket is different level.

 

Playing poor on World Cup: get them all to ****, why is Root captain etc

Win World Cup: always knew root was the man, what a team, best in the world

Opening days of first test: 5-0, easy street

Now they’ve shat it: GTF, never good enough, sack them all.

 

And repeat on a four monthly cycle when they win/lose a test match.

It’s the same for all English national teams at most sports!

 

Entitlement of OF proportions!

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England probably need a whole reassessment of their approach to test cricket. 

 

Some new guys in. Getting a new head coach soon. 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said:

England probably need a whole reassessment of their approach to test cricket. 

 

Some new guys in. Getting a new head coach soon. 

 

 

Any suggestions? I think this team might be about as good as it gets. So many of those recently who have scored heavily in County cricekt have looked way out of their depth at Test level.

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2 minutes ago, RobboM said:

Any suggestions? I think this team might be about as good as it gets. So many of those recently who have scored heavily in County cricekt have looked way out of their depth at Test level.

 

Yes

 

And also guys like Butler were brought into the test team but now out of form. Stokes and Woakes are more reliable, steadier. 

 

It isn't obvious. They could bring in Sidley for Roy to join Burns to open. 

 

Ben Foakes can come in as wicket keeper. Sam Curran I say should be in. Reliable batter as well as bowler.

 

Spinner is currently a problem due to loss of form and injury. 

 

Sibley

Burns

Root

Stokes

Foakes

Bairstow / Butler

Curran

Moeen 

Woakes

Archer

Broad

 

Though not much different from current team. 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said:

 

Yes

 

And also guys like Butler were brought into the test team but now out of form. Stokes and Woakes are more reliable, steadier. 

.....

 

Though not much different from current team. 

 

 

Sibley is the only name I've heard mentioned too.
I'd definitely rest Moeen at the moment though, he looks beaten before he's begun against the Aussies with bat and ball

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2 hours ago, Boris said:

England struggling.

 

136-5

 

250 would be a decent return for them at this point.

Pfffttt!
They left 250 in the rear view mirror 😉

251-9

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Think the tumble of wickets has just about caught up the lost day. England will regret not using DRS against Bancroft for a caught behind. Apart from the wicket (of course) it would have brought Steve Smith to the wicket for an awkward half dozen overs.

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16 minutes ago, Boris said:

Aussies doing an England!

 

71-4


Proper test cricket, really enjoying this morning session so far.

Watching Steve Smith bat really winds me up though!

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On 15/08/2019 at 12:30, Sexton Hardcastle said:

Thought football fans were fickle/moaning *******s but English cricket is different level.

 

Playing poor on World Cup: get them all to ****, why is Root captain etc

Win World Cup: always knew root was the man, what a team, best in the world

Opening days of first test: 5-0, easy street

Now they’ve shat it: GTF, never good enough, sack them all.

 

And repeat on a four monthly cycle when they win/lose a test match.

And now the boys are back in town. All is rosey.

 

Some mob.

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It'll be interesting to see how the pitch plays with the sun on it today.

Will it flatten out or will they uneven bounce get worse? 

I don't know much about Leach tbh but he might have a part to play from one end. 

Looks like a good days cricket ahead.

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11 minutes ago, robbo1874 said:

And off again. Lbw. A chance for England.

It's all a bit pointless anyway. It's going to be a draw.

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22 minutes ago, Sooperstar said:

It's all a bit pointless anyway. It's going to be a draw.

 

Agreed it looks likely with the time left but there's always that chance of a crazy spell by someone. 

 

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47 minutes ago, robbo1874 said:

 

Agreed it looks likely with the time left but there's always that chance of a crazy spell by someone. 

 

Or maybe not...

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On 16/08/2019 at 13:45, Sexton Hardcastle said:

And now the boys are back in town. All is rosey.

 

Some mob.

Back to being dug shite.

 

Cant keep up

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Brilliant cricket. 

 

Shame about time lost but actually perhaps better. If its a draw, probably most likely, sets it up brilliantly for the rest of the series. 

 

 

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Looking like a 12.00 start. The Aussies will come steaming in; a couple of early wickets and you never know. Could still be a very interesting day's cricket.

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Interesting to hear that Steve Smith will miss the remainder of the match through concussion. Australia can now apply for a substitute and the substitute can bat.

I'd listened to the TMS podcast this morning and thought they'd said that a concussion meant the player automatically misses the next match. I may have picked that up worng though. If Smith misses the next match that would be huge!

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australia say he will be assessed over the next couple of days but the short turnaround between tests are against him making the 3rd test

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Watching Jos Buttler, currently scored 12* off 59 balls. For comparison from ODI matches he scored

121 74 balls v Sri Lanka
129 77 balls v NZ
116* 52 balls v Pak
105 76 balls v S Afr
100 83 balls v Aus

It's like it's a different game! 😉


 

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Yep, declaration imminent once Stokes gets himself out showboating.

 

Got to hand it to him, he does seem like a piece of work, but what a batsman!

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Again Archer was dug shite according to the English masses in the first innings but now he’s the dogs.

 

Hopefully this is a draw as they will be insufferable if the twats win.

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