Clerry Jambo Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 To get second opinion on injury and to miss start of league campaign reports EEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott herbertson Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Just now, Clerry Jambo said: To get second opinion on injury and to miss start of league campaign reports EEN bugger - he's a player that makes a huge difference to us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swanny17 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 He should go and see the same specialist who solved Mickeys similar problem. Did it not turn out that it was his teeth that were causing the issue and a gum shield fixed it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Bizarre yeah. Mickey ended up with a gumshield that fixed his pelvic problems🤷🏽♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Had feared this would happen. I’m starting to think that when we extend player contracts, we celebrate by kicking the shit out of them. Wouldn’t mind seeing Halkett cover for him in that holding role. Remember, Haring came to us as a CB as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 42 minutes ago, Cygnet said: He should go and see the same specialist who solved Mickeys similar problem. Did it not turn out that it was his teeth that were causing the issue and a gum shield fixed it? Was it a similar problem though? Had mickeys not been undiagnosed for a good few years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 I get the impression that it’s not going to be a quick fix with this. A good quality holding midfielder is now a priority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Should give Halkett a go and sign a proper replacement for Djoum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Sounds like this going to be long term problem which really unfortunate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h-e-a-r-t-s Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 2 hours ago, jack D and coke said: Bizarre yeah. Mickey ended up with a gumshield that fixed his pelvic problems🤷🏽♂️ Same thing solved a long standing back issue for Jose Maria Olazabal as it happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 minute ago, h-e-a-r-t-s said: Same thing solved a long standing back issue for Jose Maria Olazabal as it happens Weird innit. How on earth can that affect joints in other parts of your body🤷🏽♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cut The Crap Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 54 minutes ago, cosanostra said: Should give Halkett a go and sign a proper replacement for Djoum. I'd actually prefer we gave chances to some of our promising young midfielders rather than squeezing a square peg into the round hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaba Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Cut The Crap said: I'd actually prefer we gave chances to some of our promising young midfielders rather than squeezing a square peg into the round hole. I’m all for giving the young guys a chance to prove themselves. However, playing any of the promising CM’s we have on the cusp of the first team in Haring’s role would actually seem to be squeezing square pegs into round holes more than signing a specialist holding midfielder would be. I don’t feel like Irving, Cochrane or Smith are suited to that role. We need an experienced holding midfielder to protect the back line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Lambretta Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 hour ago, cosanostra said: Should give Halkett a go and sign a proper replacement for Djoum. I would try Halkett in the holding role Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 21 minutes ago, Cut The Crap said: I'd actually prefer we gave chances to some of our promising young midfielders rather than squeezing a square peg into the round hole. Which young player do you think is a holding midfielder? Halkett has played there before, has decent passing and is a goal threat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cut The Crap Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, cosanostra said: Which young player do you think is a holding midfielder? Halkett has played there before, has decent passing and is a goal threat. I don't know the individual strengths of our various youngsters, but I'd hope the coaching staff do. I just think that 5 years on it's surely time we were able to promote from within rather than having to reach for new signings and loan deals or repurpose an existing first-teamer every time somebody gets injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, Cut The Crap said: I don't know the individual strengths of our various youngsters, but I'd hope the coaching staff do. I just think that 5 years on it's surely time we were able to promote from within rather than having to reach for new signings and loan deals or repurpose an existing first-teamer every time somebody gets injured. I don't think we have a first team ready, holding midfielder, academy player. Asking one of Cochrane, Irving etc to play that role might be more a square peg situation than asking an experienced player who's already played that role to step up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmo Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Gashauskis9 said: Had feared this would happen. I’m starting to think that when we extend player contracts, we celebrate by kicking the shit out of them. Wouldn’t mind seeing Halkett cover for him in that holding role. Remember, Haring came to us as a CB as well. Have been suggesting this since the lad signed, He is a good footballer and scored a few goals for Livingston should fit in there very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsofgold Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 50 minutes ago, Cut The Crap said: I'd actually prefer we gave chances to some of our promising young midfielders rather than squeezing a square peg into the round hole. This. Let's try and develop Irving into a good CM. He's skilful and a good player but needs games at a high level to learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 From what I'm hearing, the medical team are under close scrutiny and there's a lot of discontent with them, we may even have a new medical team in place this season (don't shoot the messenger, and wasn't even sure I should post this tbh), but let's just say that Haring should never have been passed fit for the cup final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inch Hearts Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Oh well just got to get on with the cards dealt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inch Hearts Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Heartsofgold said: This. Let's try and develop Irving into a good CM. He's skilful and a good player but needs games at a high level to learn. I’m sure the will be a position pencilled in for him from academy days - if that isn’t CM then I wouldn’t like to switch him permanently to cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy2 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Just our luck to uncover an absolute gem and find out he’s made of chocolate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 22 minutes ago, The Old Tolbooth said: From what I'm hearing, the medical team are under close scrutiny and there's a lot of discontent with them, we may even have a new medical team in place this season (don't shoot the messenger, and wasn't even sure I should post this tbh), but let's just say that Haring should never have been passed fit for the cup final. Nonsense. Misdiagnosis and mistreatment happen at all teams with alarming regularity. I know this as I read it on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King prawn Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 I’d rather see Halkett at centre back and try Chris Hamilton in the holding role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandylejambo Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 (edited) If we have to try a central defender in the holding midfield role, how about Souttar? We know he has the football and he does like to stride forward, unless we start bringing in what we need Edited July 15, 2019 by sandylejambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 He could be out for months - a season, important now we find someone who can come in and cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 53 minutes ago, sandylejambo said: If we have to try a central defender in the holding midfield role, how about Souttar? We know he has the football and he does like to stride forward, unless we start bringing in what we need Was just about to post this. Put Halkett in at the back and move Souttar forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari Gold Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Get Adao back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Just needs a proper haircut imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry hippo Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, Lovecraft said: Was just about to post this. Put Halkett in at the back and move Souttar forward. CL was adamant when Souttar signed that we wouldn't muck about with his position like had happened to him at Dundee United. Think it's therefore unlikely but personally I'm not against it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TemasekJambo Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, Lovecraft said: Was just about to post this. Put Halkett in at the back and move Souttar forward. This makes more sense to me. A lot of folk are saying that Halkett has played midfield before but according to Transfermarkt, it is only 2 games in 137 and none in recent times. We definitely need a proper backup, the loan market may be worth looking at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnB Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 I'm sure Clevid coud impose himself there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Hungry hippo said: CL was adamant when Souttar signed that we wouldn't muck about with his position like had happened to him at Dundee United. Think it's therefore unlikely but personally I'm not against it. 1 minute ago, TemasekJambo said: This makes more sense to me. A lot of folk are saying that Halkett has played midfield before but according to Transfermarkt, it is only 2 games in 137 and none in recent times. We definitely need a proper backup, the loan market may be worth looking at. Souttar is settled in the team and would probably be fine in the DM position. Halkett may have played there before, but he is still settling in. Best to let him do that in his natural position. Souttar has the right amount of bite to his game now too. He likes a tackle and is usually good with distribution apart from 1 or 2 Hollywood passes each game. 3 or 4, if we are on TV. 😉 We could maybe only use him there in the "bigger" games when we are expecting to have less of the ball? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheatfieldWarrior Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 We're harder to beat with Haring in - putting the league cup to one side, the league season has some tough openers which I would liked to have Haring in the team for. We have a number of punts in the Squad - Souttar played DM at Dundee United, but not for a few years and wasn't a starter IRC. Hamilton - I understand this would likely be the position he will end up at, but I don't think he has played there thus far. Cochrane, Irving - I don't think it's quite his game, plus I think we're looking for a more physical player, that's good in the air. Bozanic may be the most likely if we can't bring the player that we want in. Halkett - I don't favour bringing a new guy in and playing him out of position - he may need to settle into the squad first. I think that they are all square pegs to some extent, I think we need someone in as we can't really assume that if recovers, that'll be the end of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheatfieldWarrior Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, Lovecraft said: He likes a tackle and is usually good with distribution apart from 1 or 2 Hollywood passes each game. 3 or 4, if we are on TV. There's no Lee in the team to keep those in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheatfieldWarrior Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 20 minutes ago, Hungry hippo said: CL was adamant when Souttar signed that we wouldn't muck about with his position like had happened to him at Dundee United. Think it's therefore unlikely but personally I'm not against it. I think CL likes to play his 2 strongest defenders at CB. Don't think he would change this to shore up the midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4forDevries Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Its Cowdenbeath tomorrow.........., lets see if Halkett can totally dominate in a CM role. Might be another Haring....we need to find out .....and this is an opportunity. Otherwise, Bozanic has the grit, engine and aggression etc to play in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Shaggy2 said: Just our luck to uncover an absolute gem and find out he’s made of chocolate. His injury was pushed past its limit by Craig Levein. CL has already accepted responsibility for that. Saying he’s “made of chocolate” is a tad harsh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S Form Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 32 minutes ago, Lovecraft said: Souttar is settled in the team and would probably be fine in the DM position. Halkett may have played there before, but he is still settling in. Best to let him do that in his natural position. Souttar has the right amount of bite to his game now too. He likes a tackle and is usually good with distribution apart from 1 or 2 Hollywood passes each game. 3 or 4, if we are on TV. 😉 We could maybe only use him there in the "bigger" games when we are expecting to have less of the ball? Not sure about this. When Souttar played as DM for Dundee United he looked like a fish out of water. The roles are very different. For example, though Scott Brown is a complete git, he’s about the best DM in the country. That doesn’t mean he’d make a good central defender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4forDevries Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, S Form said: Not sure about this. When Souttar played as DM for Dundee United he looked like a fish out of water. The roles are very different. For example, though Scott Brown is a complete git, he’s about the best DM in the country. That doesn’t mean he’d make a good central defender. I'd have a fit Haring b4 Scott Brown every day of the week :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 18 minutes ago, S Form said: Not sure about this. When Souttar played as DM for Dundee United he looked like a fish out of water. The roles are very different. For example, though Scott Brown is a complete git, he’s about the best DM in the country. That doesn’t mean he’d make a good central defender. That was quite a while ago though. He has gained more game knowledge since then. I'm not saying as a permanent thing, just as needs must. Hopefully Haring is back very soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S Form Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, 4forDevries said: I'd have a fit Haring b4 Scott Brown every day of the week 🙂 Me too. Wouldn’t have that unpleasant little twonk anywhere near our team. Edited July 15, 2019 by S Form Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavman81 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Starting the season without Haring, Lee and Djoum is absolute balls. The fact that the new midfielder will just be a replacement for Haring probably also means we won’t be replacing Djoum/Lee with the creativity that we need. Whatever way you now slice it, the starting midfield this season is poorer than last, although I acknowledge that a fit Walker and Naismith will help get goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB GIN Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 2 hours ago, sandylejambo said: If we have to try a central defender in the holding midfield role, how about Souttar? We know he has the football and he does like to stride forward, unless we start bringing in what we need Absolutely bang on he drives forward better than any midfielder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiewave Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 4 hours ago, jack D and coke said: Weird innit. How on earth can that affect joints in other parts of your body🤷🏽♂️ All connected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, Lovecraft said: That was quite a while ago though. He has gained more game knowledge since then. I'm not saying as a permanent thing, just as needs must. Hopefully Haring is back very soon. Souttar doesn't want to play there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
true-jambo Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 5 hours ago, jack D and coke said: Weird innit. How on earth can that affect joints in other parts of your body🤷🏽♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 4 hours ago, The Old Tolbooth said: From what I'm hearing, the medical team are under close scrutiny and there's a lot of discontent with them, we may even have a new medical team in place this season (don't shoot the messenger, and wasn't even sure I should post this tbh), but let's just say that Haring should never have been passed fit for the cup final. Not before time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 4 hours ago, Shaggy2 said: Just our luck to uncover an absolute gem and find out he’s made of chocolate. If you look at his career he averaged 27 games a season, he’s injury prone unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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