Serge Pizzorno Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Not one for pantwetting, but we really do seem to be short of wide players for upcoming season. Unless of course Levein is putting more trust into Morrison, Mulraney, McDonald and Zanatta, however I’m struggling to see past who else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 I really hope to see the young lads get more of a shot. Monday proved that. Minus young lads, we are very short. With the young lads, we've got lots of choices. Ones you mentioned OP, plus Moore and Henderson. I'd particularly like to see Zanatta more. Thought he was immense on Monday. Really attacking player, looks desperate to have the ball, not afraid to run at a man and he's a good strong runner too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Walker, Washington and Clare can all fill in wide, Brandon, White and Wighton are options too and I believe Moore has a year left on his deal. I think Mulraney will start the season on the left, it's up to him if he can keep a hold of his place but I think he has the ability and attitude to succeed. Would ideally like an out and out right winger as an extra option but there is a lot of potential in that group of players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveins Battalion Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 10 minutes ago, BigAlim said: Walker, Washington and Clare can all fill in wide, Brandon, White and Wighton are options too and I believe Moore has a year left on his deal. I think Mulraney will start the season on the left, it's up to him if he can keep a hold of his place but I think he has the ability and attitude to succeed. Would ideally like an out and out right winger as an extra option but there is a lot of potential in that group of players Wighton 🤣🤣🤣🙈 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 We have Uche, Naismith, Keena, Wighton, MacLean, Walker, Mulraney, Washington, Dario, Morrison, Edwards and McDonald all looking for game time. If we play 352 then add in Smith, Brandon, White and Hickey into the equation. They all can’t play. No idea what the plan is. Hopefully on Friday we will see a change of shape from 352 to something like 4231, gives us defensive cover out wide as well. That is the only way I can see us getting Uche, Naismith, Walker and Washington into the team. Bobby Smith Halkett Souttar Hickey Clare Cochrane Walker Naismith Washington Uche Means we’d have Mulraney and Edwards off the bench for pace and directness. Also means we have decent cover for injuries. White or Hickey at left back, Smith or Brandon at right back, Berra for Souttar or Halkett. I think we still have to lose a few players to keep the squad balanced and motivated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Leveins Battalion said: Wighton 🤣🤣🤣🙈 I know he's a bit pish, but his only half decent game was out wide against Partick so clinging on to some hope with that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncansDoughnuts Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 57 minutes ago, Serge Pizzorno said: Not one for pantwetting, but we really do seem to be short of wide players for upcoming season. Unless of course Levein is putting more trust into Morrison, Mulraney, McDonald and Zanatta, however I’m struggling to see past who else. We only need width away from home😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 1 minute ago, DuncansDoughnuts said: We only need width away from home😉 How’s that m9? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosavi Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 51 minutes ago, BigAlim said: Walker, Washington and Clare can all fill in wide, Brandon, White and Wighton are options too and I believe Moore has a year left on his deal. I think Mulraney will start the season on the left, it's up to him if he can keep a hold of his place but I think he has the ability and attitude to succeed. Would ideally like an out and out right winger as an extra option but there is a lot of potential in that group of players Shighton will be back at dundee soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 58 minutes ago, Serge Pizzorno said: Not one for pantwetting, but we really do seem to be short of wide players for upcoming season. Unless of course Levein is putting more trust into Morrison, Mulraney, McDonald and Zanatta, however I’m struggling to see past who else. So you’re worried we have no width but then go on to mention four wide players. How many wingers would you like us to have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Where's the flair players we were promised? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 1 minute ago, jr ewing said: Where's the flair players we were promised? Promised?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveins Battalion Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, jr ewing said: Where's the flair players we were promised? On numerous occasions at the tail end of last season Levein stated he was looking at 4 flair players of "significant" quality,I'm assuming Washington and Walker fall into that category for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Just now, Whatever said: Promised?? Yes that was supposed to be the priority this transfer window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Just now, Leveins Battalion said: On numerous occasions at the tail end of last season Levein stated he was looking at 4 flair players of "significant" quality,I'm assuming Washington and Walker fall into that category for him. Oh well maybe next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, jr ewing said: Yes that was supposed to be the priority this transfer window. Promised? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 I’m not worried about width, I’m worried about the centre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo19 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Unless the philosophy is the full backs push up to give us width up the park with Walker and Naismith starting wide but essentially playing central as 2 no.10s. This allows those 2 to play off a sole striker like uche, allow more bodies in the box and retain width through the full backs. We tried it last year in spells when you'd see Djoum etc as left mid but really that was their starting position, not how they were playing the game. Although I'm a fan of direct pacey wingers so I'd agree that we need another but I can see why we might not be looking for one if we have faith in White/Hickey/Garuccio and Smith/Brandon to get forward and deliver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayman Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 We don’t really play with width. We have four players at least for two wingback spots, and about 12 players who can fill into the 4 attacking positions. Unless Clare and Walker are both going to play in center mid then we won’t really have much quality in that position. As for the wighton stuff- he’s definitely got a footballing brain, a good touch and an excellent work rate. Unfortunately punting balls at him isn’t going to work. Neither is this expectation of him going into as many 50/50s as possible as that’s clearly not his game. I’m not saying he’s been excellent so far- far from it actually but he’s got potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dayman said: We don’t really play with width. We have four players at least for two wingback spots, and about 12 players who can fill into the 4 attacking positions. Unless Clare and Walker are both going to play in center mid then we won’t really have much quality in that position. As for the wighton stuff- he’s definitely got a footballing brain, a good touch and an excellent work rate. Unfortunately punting balls at him isn’t going to work. Neither is this expectation of him going into as many 50/50s as possible as that’s clearly not his game. I’m not saying he’s been excellent so far- far from it actually but he’s got potential. Always will be too lightweight for SPL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 21 minutes ago, Leveins Battalion said: On numerous occasions at the tail end of last season Levein stated he was looking at 4 flair players of "significant" quality,I'm assuming Washington and Walker fall into that category for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayman Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 1 minute ago, jr ewing said: Always will be too lightweight for SPL. That’s a fair comment. His biggest weakness definitely. But he’s still pretty young and had a bad injury a couple years ago from a 50/50 tackle I believe. That can do a lot to a young player. However, we have the top sports scientists available to us for his physical strength and top sports psychiatrists for his mental recovery which may take a while, so a lot can happen in the next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 If we don't get flair in the side we are in danger of resorting to hoof ball and that's going to make it a long hard season for all concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Did Levein use the word “flair”? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 We don't have any because we don't play with width. He wants the Fb to provide it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T.F.Robertson Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 22 minutes ago, To Be Frank said: Did Levein use the word “flair”? "Creative" is how I remember it ...... still waiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawaii Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 4-3-3 this season no? Played it well in the Cup Final. Last season we only used one winger and had 3 centre midfielders when playing a four. CL using two wingers would have Hearts fans fainting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 I’m sure the female Hearts fans would like more width. Seriously though, there doesn’t seem to be a wealth of quality available within our scope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Scoring goals. That's what we need and I believe that's exactly what Levein wants. Let's hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 38 minutes ago, To Be Frank said: Did Levein use the word “flair”? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upgotheheads Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 2 hours ago, BigAlim said: Walker, Washington and Clare can all fill in wide, Brandon, White and Wighton are options too and I believe Moore has a year left on his deal. I think Mulraney will start the season on the left, it's up to him if he can keep a hold of his place but I think he has the ability and attitude to succeed. Would ideally like an out and out right winger as an extra option but there is a lot of potential in that group of players What's the situation with Morrison? I had hopes for him early on last season, he didn't progress much , maybe due to injury but is he back in training? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott herbertson Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 13 minutes ago, upgotheheads said: What's the situation with Morrison? I had hopes for him early on last season, he didn't progress much , maybe due to injury but is he back in training? I am pretty sure his injury affected him - he was on fire early on and if he can recover that form and with Mulraney there too (and I think Mcdonald might also be an option) then there is less urgency. I think a replacement for Djoum/ Lee is the most obvious gap in our recruitment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Serge Pizzorno said: Not one for pantwetting, but we really do seem to be short of wide players for upcoming season. Unless of course Levein is putting more trust into Morrison, Mulraney, McDonald and Zanatta, however I’m struggling to see past who else. You quote 4 players and then state your struggling to name anyone else...how many do we need for goodness sake PS Walker could also play wide if that sets your mind at ease Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 2 hours ago, DuncansDoughnuts said: We only need width away from home😉 Funny that. I can remember numerous thumpings of Hibs and others (but especially Hibs) at home playing with wide players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: Funny that. I can remember numerous thumpings of Hibs and others (but especially Hibs) at home playing with wide players. I can remember numerous thumpings of Hibs with all sorts of formations, home and away, neutral venues too😉. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo19 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 1 hour ago, upgotheheads said: What's the situation with Morrison? I had hopes for him early on last season, he didn't progress much , maybe due to injury but is he back in training? Started well and seemed to link up well with Smith and Naismith. Once injuries struck and the team chopped and changed there was more of a reliance on players like him and MacLean and I think he suffered from that. Basically overplayed but there was no real right winger to sub him with. Struggled with an injury then did his knee towards the end of the season in a reserve game and is coming back from that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagy Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 we need two wingers two midfielders and another proven goalscorer the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 2 hours ago, hawaii said: 4-3-3 this season no? Played it well in the Cup Final. Last season we only used one winger and had 3 centre midfielders when playing a four. CL using two wingers would have Hearts fans fainting. It’s how he played during first spell. Hamill or JLV as winger on one side of park and Stampy/Boyack on the other side as a wide midfielder 2 hours ago, jr ewing said: Yes Link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 25 minutes ago, wagy said: we need two wingers two midfielders and another proven goalscorer the end Nah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 4 hours ago, To Be Frank said: So you’re worried we have no width but then go on to mention four wide players. How many wingers would you like us to have? 1 hour ago, CJGJ said: You quote 4 players and then state your struggling to name anyone else...how many do we need for goodness sake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick witter Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 4 hours ago, To Be Frank said: So you’re worried we have no width but then go on to mention four wide players. How many wingers would you like us to have? All of whom are very inconsistent at best. Give Mulraney his due he has certainly surprised me and I hope he kicks on but the rest are nowhere near first team picks every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 1 minute ago, rick witter said: All of whom are very inconsistent at best. Give Mulraney his due he has certainly surprised me and I hope he kicks on but the rest are nowhere near first team picks every week. Got a crystal ball? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canada Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 We have a lot of options when all the players are fit but there's a lack of experience. Zanatta's determination to get to the byline the other night is something we sorely need. We need quality crosses into the box though which is something Morrison lacked last season. We also need better and faster distribution from the midfield. We've got good pace with Mulraney especially but we need to be playing balls in behind full backs for him to run onto. Too much last season he'd get the ball on the halfway line with someone already closing him down or be missed out completely as it got launched from the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Bridge of Djoum said: I’m sure the female Hearts fans would like more width. I knew someone would beat me to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerjambo Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Mulraney is the least of our worries imo. I have a sneaking feeling he will be one of our best players this season, the boy thrives on confidence and feeling part of the team. Our problem right now is in the heart of midfield, because we are hoping that Clare will somehow vastly improve on last season. We need a creative man in the middle to link play and spray passes around, take it from defence, and start attacking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, innerjambo said: Mulraney is the least of our worries imo. I have a sneaking feeling he will be one of our best players this season, the boy thrives on confidence and feeling part of the team. Our problem right now is in the heart of midfield, because we are hoping that Clare will somehow vastly improve on last season. We need a creative man in the middle to link play and spray passes around, take it from defence, and start attacking. A Gomis type would be useful, especially when Souttar isn’t there to carry the ball out from the back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Brightside Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 4 hours ago, DuncansDoughnuts said: We only need width away from home😉 0/10 must try harder. Mods bin this hobo. Far too obvious, Duncan is the new yam apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerjambo Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 17 minutes ago, To Be Frank said: A Gomis type would be useful, especially when Souttar isn’t there to carry the ball out from the back If only we could find another Gomis, now that would be ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenNaismith Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 I think a lot of the time this season whoever is playing on the right will be tucked in a lot and Mulraney will play wide on the left. Levein has a lot of trust in Smith’s ability to get up and down the right which then leaves us more rigid in the centre of midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 1 minute ago, StevenNaismith said: I think a lot of the time this season whoever is playing on the right will be tucked in a lot and Mulraney will play wide on the left. Levein has a lot of trust in Smith’s ability to get up and down the right which then leaves us more rigid in the centre of midfield. When signed, Naisy will play from there I reckon. 👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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