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4 minutes ago, Soapy Soutar said:

I fail to see what the big deal is here,ive never done any harm by gay people the are free to do what the wish i just dont believe its right but whatever they choose to do is upto them.

 

What they do is against my beliefs thats all,they and folk on here more than entitled to be against what i think thats fine by me

 

One of my issues is that you said you had no gay friends, nor would you want any. You now say your only issue with homosexuality is that it’s against your beliefs.

 

Using that logic, you must only have friends who share your beliefs? So if you’re, say, a Christian, you wouldn't want any friends who are of a different faith, or are atheists?

 

I find that very hard to believe.

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Normthebarman
22 minutes ago, colinmaroon said:

 

Wasn't going to post on this thread but the exaggerated blaspheming does it.

 

Two people in the last while have been in the courts fighting unfair dismissal and discrimination for their beliefs.

 

Richard Page, long serving Justice of the Peace said in a private conversation that he believed a child was better served being brought up by a mother and father.  Someone overheard and reported him and as a result he was sacked as a JP and lost his non-exec director of an NHS Trust.  He appealed and lost as the judge said, and I quote,

 

"He had the right to believe what he believed but not to articulate it!" - Staggering!!!

 

Felix Ngole kicked off his social work course because he said on his own Facebook page he believed in the Bible's view on marriage, that is between a man and a woman, and he has just won in the Court of Appeal after losing his first appeal in the High Court.  Again, he was reported anonymously! 

 

In the court hearings, the University argued that Felix had ‘lacked insight’ into the effect of his posts on social media. During his Fitness to Practice hearing, the University had told him that the expression of his Christian views was unacceptable and was effectively told either to renounce his faith or stay silent on pain of losing his career. Yet Felix says he felt he could not surrender his faith.

 

In some shocking exchanges from the High Court hearing, the University of Sheffield implied that Felix was not allowed to express the Christian viewpoint on same-sex marriage or homosexuality on any public forum, including in a church.   The Court of Appeal condemned the position of the university whereby people would live in fear if private expressions of views were overheard and could be reported anonymously.

The Court ruled that: “The mere expression of views on theological grounds (e.g. that 'homosexuality is a sin') does not necessarily connote that the person expressing such views will discriminate on such grounds.” It was further recognised that Felix had never been shown to act in a discriminatory fashion.

The hypocrisy of the secular forces who say that they can say what they like, including bitter and abusive attacks on Christians and Christ and yet don't even allow Christians to "articulate" their beliefs in public reveals the new bolshevism that is socially engineering this country and, they say it's all for the better!!!

Open your eyes!  20% of young females self-harm; 18% of young people think life isn't worth living.  Suicide rates accelerating.

There's a line from a hymn by Graham Kendrick, "we have sacrificed our children on the altar of our gods."

The law is that gay sex is legal and we obey the law but, the frantic bile of the Humanist Association against any simple expression of the faith they hate with a passion draws the most vitriolic abuse - all in the name of tolerance, of course.

PS If you want to take me to court for expressing Biblical views on homosexuality, I would ask for several other offences to be taken into account.  For example, I preach against lying, stealing, hatred, religious teaching that emphasises truth but leaves out love and emphasising love but leaving out the Truth etc.

Live your lives as you want as long as you stay within the law but, if the law goes against your beliefs - e.g. what did the gay rights do in that situation and yet the hypocrites say they can do it but you Christians can't.  They spend all their times forcing B & B operators out of business for their beliefs; suing bakers etc.  It is the human condition, with a few wonderful exceptions, the best of which was that swear word that's constantly used on here, Jesus, to become the abuser and there is more abuse directed in high profile cases against Christians than Islamaphobia, homophobia.

Welcome to the age of Christophobia!!!

 

Hey, you have my backing. As long as it can be proven that there's been no discrimination, then people should be allowed to say they disagree with homosexuality and still keep their job. I'll even back those bakers up. They didn't discriminate against homosexuals. They were happy to bake cakes for homosexuals. What they didn't want to do was promote a political message (gay marriage) they didn't agree with. Which should have been their right to do. 

 

As alluded to earlier by another poster, it's a conundrum for a lot of "liberal" folk. People should be able to express themselves as they see fit. But that means letting people we disagree with express themselves too. And a large chunk of those who consider themselves "liberal" have difficulty accepting that. 

 

And I should say, I consider myself to be a liberal. Or libtard as it seems to be called now. 

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Barack
Just now, Hercules said:

I think that’s a bit strong. A devout practicing Catholic would disagree with you on the same sex marriage point. 

I'm friends with devout Catholics. They don't agree with same sex marriage. But one of their best friends is a lesbian, and went to her civil partnership.

 

Some folk can see past prejudices for the better good. Not wanting to be friends with a gay person because of religion...try telling a black person why you'd rather not hang around with them. 

 

See what reaction that gets you. Same here.

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Dino Velvet
1 minute ago, Barack said:

I'm friends with devout Catholics. They don't agree with same sex marriage. But one of their best friends is a lesbian, and went to her civil partnership.

 

Some folk can see past prejudices for the better good. Not wanting to be friends with a gay person because of religion...try telling a black person why you'd rather not hang around with them. 

 

See what reaction that gets you. Same here.

 

Some people on here don’t hang around with hibs supporters because of the team they follow. 

The world is full of arseholes. 

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Normthebarman
10 minutes ago, PTBCAL said:

At the end of the day everyone should respect everyone’s beliefs regardless if they agree with them

Exactly. 

 

It's only when acting on those beliefs, should those beliefs be against the law, that we have a problem. 

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Soapy Soutar
3 minutes ago, Dino Velvet said:

 

Some people on here don’t hang around with hibs supporters because of the team they follow. 

The world is full of arseholes. 

Oh well seems im also a arsehole

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Dino Velvet
1 minute ago, Soapy Soutar said:

Oh well seems im also a arsehole

 

Me too. 

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Barack

If you can't even follow the teachings of the one thing you hold dear...

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Weakened Offender
On 10/07/2019 at 08:43, i8hibsh said:

 

 

Just google. Numerous on equality, human rights, hate speech and discrimination.

 

The LGBTQ community are very well protected in this country.

 

Why do they need protected if the country is so nice?

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Olly Lee's left boot
3 minutes ago, Soapy Soutar said:

Oh well seems im also a arsehole

 

 

Tbf, if you don't have or want any gay friends, then you won't have any hibs friends.... 

Because they are all eh.

 

Am I right? 🤔

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Morph
13 minutes ago, Normthebarman said:

Hey, you have my backing. As long as it can be proven that there's been no discrimination, then people should be allowed to say they disagree with homosexuality and still keep their job. I'll even back those bakers up. They didn't discriminate against homosexuals. They were happy to bake cakes for homosexuals. What they didn't want to do was promote a political message (gay marriage) they didn't agree with. Which should have been their right to do. 

 

As alluded to earlier by another poster, it's a conundrum for a lot of "liberal" folk. People should be able to express themselves as they see fit. But that means letting people we disagree with express themselves too. And a large chunk of those who consider themselves "liberal" have difficulty accepting that. 

 

And I should say, I consider myself to be a liberal. Or libtard as it seems to be called now. 

You can’t disagree with homosexuality ffs. What these idiots disagree with is gay people being allowed to be openly gay. 

 

Its like saying you disagree with arms and legs.  It just is, there’s nothing to argue against. It exists and there’s nothing you can do about it. 

 

Would be a completely different story if he said he disagreed with black people though wouldn’t it :rolleyes: 

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Barack

I'll personally can this now. A Theology debate can be done in the Shed.

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Normthebarman
1 minute ago, Barack said:

If you can't even follow the teachings of the one thing you hold dear...

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Yup. It's perfectly acceptable for Christian's to support their gay friends. After all, the only person who should be judging is Big Daddy G himself. 

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Soapy Soutar
1 minute ago, Olly Lee's left boot said:

 

 

Tbf, if you don't have or want any gay friends, then you won't have any hibs friends.... 

Because they are all eh.

 

Am I right? 🤔

Exactly why i said to some im a arsehole

 

Or probably to many i am

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Geoff Kilpatrick

I understand @Soapy Soutar's comment about staying out of each other's way. I hate cats but there is one in this house and we stay out of each other's way too. That's the same, isn't it? :rolleyes:

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Smithee
1 hour ago, sadj said:

Jesus H Kweeeehrist

 

35 minutes ago, colinmaroon said:

Wasn't going to post on this thread but the exaggerated blaspheming does it.

 

I know I shouldn't, but :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 

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Normthebarman
2 minutes ago, Morph said:

You can’t disagree with homosexuality ffs. What these idiots disagree with is gay people being allowed to be openly gay. 

 

Its like saying you disagree with arms and legs.  It just is, there’s nothing to argue against. It exists and there’s nothing you can do about it. 

 

Would be a completely different story if he said he disagreed with black people though wouldn’t it :rolleyes: 

True. What I should have said is disagree with homosexuality being legal. 

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Olly Lee's left boot
Just now, Geoff Kilpatrick said:

I understand @Soapy Soutar's comment about staying out of each other's way. I hate cats but there is one in this house and we stay out of each other's way too. That's the same, isn't it? :rolleyes:

 

Dunno, does Soapy have a gay  person in his house? 

 

😳

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Geoff Kilpatrick
Just now, Olly Lee's left boot said:

 

Dunno, does Soapy have a gay  person in his house? 

 

😳

Mibbees aye, mibbees naw.

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Morph
4 minutes ago, Normthebarman said:

True. What I should have said is disagree with homosexuality being legal. 

Sorry didn’t mean to have a go, there are just some utter cretins in this thread and folk have the brass neck to give it the “don’t need awareness, we’re a completely inclusive society”. 

 

We’re not even a completely inclusive forum.  Cannot imagine what it’s like being a gay hearts fan reading some of this utter pish. 

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Olly Lee's left boot
3 minutes ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said:

Mibbees aye, mibbees naw.

 

 

Tbh, I'm Not surprised a cat owns your ass either. 😂😂👍

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Morgan
7 minutes ago, Soapy Soutar said:

Exactly why i said to some im a arsehole

 

Or probably to many i am

I don’t think you’re an arsehole, but I do think you are prejudiced.

 

 

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Morgan
Just now, Olly Lee's left boot said:

 

 

Tbh, I'm Not surprised a cat owns your ass either. 😂😂👍

:qqb006:

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Geoff Kilpatrick
1 minute ago, Olly Lee's left boot said:

 

 

Tbh, I'm Not surprised a cat owns your ass either. 😂😂👍

More like the wife decided it was a great idea.

 

:facepalm:

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Olly Lee's left boot
Just now, Morph said:

Sorry didn’t mean to have a go, there are just some utter cretins in this thread and folk have the brass neck to give it the “don’t need awareness, we’re a completely inclusive society”. 

 

We’re not even a completely inclusive forum.  Cannot imagine what it’s like being a gay hearts fan reading some of this utter pish. 

 

 

The same as a straight person reading this pish tbh. 

 

The undercurrent of racism, homaphobia, bigotry and sexism is an eye opener. 

 

Takes all kinds tho, I guess. 

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i8hibsh
14 minutes ago, Weakened Offender said:

 

Why do they need protected if the country is so nice?

 

Why do we need any form of protection laws for anything?

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Soapy Soutar
3 minutes ago, Morgan said:

I don’t think you’re an arsehole, but I do think you are prejudiced.

 

 

Fair enough

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Olly Lee's left boot
1 minute ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said:

More like the wife decided it was a great idea.

 

:facepalm:

 

 

The GK household pecking order. 

 

The Wumin- kitty cat- Geoff. 

😉

 

 

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Morgan
3 minutes ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said:

More like the wife decided it was a great idea.

 

:facepalm:

Who’s wife?

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Morgan
4 minutes ago, Olly Lee's left boot said:

 

 

The GK household pecking order. 

 

The Wumin- kitty cat- Geoff. 

😉

 

 

He’s only third?

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Beave1874
4 hours ago, Hercules said:

I’ve not read much of this thread either, but I’m sorry, if I see a man with a dress on, I have to have a double take. To me that’s not normal. I know normal isn’t the correct word but it’s all I have. 

I get that. So frequent now almost every 2nd day...hence

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Sarah O
8 hours ago, Soapy Soutar said:

Never been a fan on the girl on girl either tbh

Like to see porn stars with stiffys on your screen do you?

 

Interesting.

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i8hibsh
8 hours ago, PTBCAL said:

At the end of the day everyone should respect everyone’s beliefs regardless if they agree with them

 

 

Nonsense. Respect is earned. I will never respect the teachings of religious scripture for example and I SHOULD never have to.

 

Should you have to respect the beliefs of Adolf Hitler?

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i8hibsh
9 hours ago, Soapy Soutar said:

I fail to see what the big deal is here,ive never done any harm by gay people the are free to do what the wish i just dont believe its right but whatever they choose to do is upto them.

 

What they do is against my beliefs thats all,they and folk on here more than entitled to be against what i think thats fine by me

 

 

It is as right and natural as opposite sex for the fact it is nature.

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i8hibsh
10 hours ago, kila said:

 

Good luck keeping those real feelings bottled up

 

 

 

 

He doesn't like girl on girl but yet he thinks being gay is wrong

 

:wtfvlad:

 

I will say this now. There is NOTHING better in this world than girl on girl. I'd take sniffing the bedsheets after 2 hot women have been rolling about in them all night ovet Hearts winning the league*

 

*may not be strictly true.

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FWJ
13 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

 

 

Nonsense. Respect is earned. I will never respect the teachings of religious scripture for example and I SHOULD never have to.

 

Should you have to respect the beliefs of Adolf Hitler?

I call Godwin!

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i8hibsh
4 minutes ago, FWJ said:

I call Godwin!

 

 

Wasn't referenced during talking about anything bad but yeah it was relevant. 

 

I just don't get the whole 'you must respect someone's beliefs'. Utter poppycock. I will respect only beliefs I see as decent.

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hughesie27

Bizarre this has been moved because people have went off topic.

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Marvin
9 hours ago, Olly Lee's left boot said:

 

 

The GK household pecking order. 

 

The Wumin- kitty cat- Geoff. 

😉

 

 

 

:laugh:

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Spellczech
21 hours ago, Marvin said:

 

I bet you first typed fags, realising your faux pas changed it to ciggies before anyone noticed :laugh2:

I didn't get as far as actually typing it but yes I had to revise my original thought...🤣

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Normthebarman
10 hours ago, colinmaroon said:

 

Wasn't going to post on this thread but the exaggerated blaspheming does it.

 

Two people in the last while have been in the courts fighting unfair dismissal and discrimination for their beliefs.

 

Richard Page, long serving Justice of the Peace said in a private conversation that he believed a child was better served being brought up by a mother and father.  Someone overheard and reported him and as a result he was sacked as a JP and lost his non-exec director of an NHS Trust.  He appealed and lost as the judge said, and I quote,

 

"He had the right to believe what he believed but not to articulate it!" - Staggering!!!

 

Felix Ngole kicked off his social work course because he said on his own Facebook page he believed in the Bible's view on marriage, that is between a man and a woman, and he has just won in the Court of Appeal after losing his first appeal in the High Court.  Again, he was reported anonymously! 

 

In the court hearings, the University argued that Felix had ‘lacked insight’ into the effect of his posts on social media. During his Fitness to Practice hearing, the University had told him that the expression of his Christian views was unacceptable and was effectively told either to renounce his faith or stay silent on pain of losing his career. Yet Felix says he felt he could not surrender his faith.

 

In some shocking exchanges from the High Court hearing, the University of Sheffield implied that Felix was not allowed to express the Christian viewpoint on same-sex marriage or homosexuality on any public forum, including in a church.   The Court of Appeal condemned the position of the university whereby people would live in fear if private expressions of views were overheard and could be reported anonymously.

The Court ruled that: “The mere expression of views on theological grounds (e.g. that 'homosexuality is a sin') does not necessarily connote that the person expressing such views will discriminate on such grounds.” It was further recognised that Felix had never been shown to act in a discriminatory fashion.

The hypocrisy of the secular forces who say that they can say what they like, including bitter and abusive attacks on Christians and Christ and yet don't even allow Christians to "articulate" their beliefs in public reveals the new bolshevism that is socially engineering this country and, they say it's all for the better!!!

Open your eyes!  20% of young females self-harm; 18% of young people think life isn't worth living.  Suicide rates accelerating.

There's a line from a hymn by Graham Kendrick, "we have sacrificed our children on the altar of our gods."

The law is that gay sex is legal and we obey the law but, the frantic bile of the Humanist Association against any simple expression of the faith they hate with a passion draws the most vitriolic abuse - all in the name of tolerance, of course.

PS If you want to take me to court for expressing Biblical views on homosexuality, I would ask for several other offences to be taken into account.  For example, I preach against lying, stealing, hatred, religious teaching that emphasises truth but leaves out love and emphasising love but leaving out the Truth etc.

Live your lives as you want as long as you stay within the law but, if the law goes against your beliefs - e.g. what did the gay rights do in that situation and yet the hypocrites say they can do it but you Christians can't.  They spend all their times forcing B & B operators out of business for their beliefs; suing bakers etc.  It is the human condition, with a few wonderful exceptions, the best of which was that swear word that's constantly used on here, Jesus, to become the abuser and there is more abuse directed in high profile cases against Christians than Islamaphobia, homophobia.

Welcome to the age of Christophobia!!!

 

Related to this, I see there's a doctor who is claiming religious discrimination as the reason he was sacked. Based on the fact that he said he would refuse to use the "she" pronoun when dealing with a transgender man. 

 

In that instance, he shouldn't have a leg to stand on. If his employer says that's the policy, that employees use the pronouns the patient identifies with, he follows their policy or ****s off. 

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Soapy Soutar
1 hour ago, Sarah O said:

Like to see porn stars with stiffys on your screen do you?

 

Interesting.

I like to watch a man and a woman as nature intended

 

 

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Normthebarman
3 minutes ago, Soapy Soutar said:

I like to watch a man and a woman as nature intended

 

 

And what is it about homosexuality that makes you think it isn't as nature intended? 

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Boris
5 minutes ago, Soapy Soutar said:

I like to watch a man and a woman as nature intended

 

 

 

Is it natural to want to watch people procreating?

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Normthebarman
Just now, Boris said:

 

Is it natural to want to watch people procreating?

Probably. It's not like all the animals in the field are all trying to sneak off for a bit of clandestine pumping. 

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Soapy Soutar
2 minutes ago, Boris said:

 

Is it natural to want to watch people procreating?

We were on the subject of porn,i like housewife seduces the plumber or fake taxi all with a man an a woman

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Boris
2 minutes ago, Normthebarman said:

Probably. It's not like all the animals in the field are all trying to sneak off for a bit of clandestine pumping. 

 

:rofl:

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Governor Tarkin
9 hours ago, Olly Lee's left boot said:

 

The undercurrent of racism, homaphobia, bigotry and sexism is an eye opener.

 

The good old days.

 

:glorious:

 

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Boris
1 minute ago, Soapy Soutar said:

We were on the subject of porn,i like housewife seduces the plumber or fake taxi all with a man an a woman

 

Ah, so some sexual practices are more normal than others?

 

Cool.

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Normthebarman
4 minutes ago, Boris said:

 

Ah, so some sexual practices are more normal than others?

 

Cool.

He's got a point. I'm pretty open minded but I draw the line at a Dirty Sanchez or Cleveland Steamer. 

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