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CJGJ

God knows what some on here would have said about Colin Cameron's injury which kept him out for a while and not at full fitness

 

A gum shield was the solution despite all the experts the club used...they should have asked JKB at the time and hey presto

 

You have to love the medical experts we have on this board and that for them 'rest' does not apply

 

If you are injured it's the clubs fault, if you are not fit in a week it's the clubs fault, 2 weeks the clubs fault, 3 weeks the clubs fault and that of the surgeon, 5 weeks the club, Levein, the surgeon because he was clearly second rate

Over and above that its the second expert/surgeons fault because we had to use him and the clubs fault because we didn't use the second expert first

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alwaysthereinspirit
31 minutes ago, Smithee said:

 

We knew he had a hernia, it was diagnosed and treated, but turns out there's something else.

This. A little different than a cut finger and a band aid. Some injuries are obviously a process of elimination. Blaming Levein is scraping the barrel even for JKB.

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Soapy Soutar

I went to my gp 4 times in a 6 month period with severe stomach pains and sickness and each time told it was a bug or something i ate,few weeks later i spent a fortnight in hospital when my gallbladder burst.It turns out id been suffering gallatones.

 

Anyway im not bitter the doc made what he thought was the right call,the body is a very complex thing.To blame CL or any the coaching staff is nonsense everyone wants him git and well and on the park sometimes in life shit happens and nobody is to blame

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Smithee
45 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

Do you know that for a fact, so it’s just a coincidence he has another problem in exactly the same area? Right up there with it just being unlucky that we suffer so many injuries every season, two years running that every outfield player has been injured at some point which is way above average.

 

Well yeah, I know he had a hernia, he certainly had a hernia operation, and now there's something else. What exactly are you getting at when you ask if I know that for a fact?

 

I'd think it was more likely that the hernia and other issue are related rather than it being some coincidence or Levein induced problem.

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WheatfieldWarrior
5 hours ago, jamborich said:

Funny you should say that he's blaming himself for playing Haring in the cup final,  reckons it was maybe a mistake taking the risk 

 

I didn't read his comments that way - He certainly says that pushing him to be ready for the cup final may have aggravated the situation and he has to take some responsibility for that, but honestly, I would have done the same.

 

Having him sit out the SC final to help him be fit for 4 games against lower league opposition in the diddy cup would have been ridiculous.

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To Be Frank
6 hours ago, mitch41 said:

Peter Haring is one of the first names on our team sheet and i’d of thought he’d be given the best 

consultant & medical treatment available. Given that this injury has persisted for over 6 months 

and with all the technology at Riccarton we’ve keep hearing about the lad must be really pissed 

off. Fingers crossed this consultant he’s away to see can get to the bottom of this injury.

 

Over 6 months 😂

 

 

 

 

😂

 

 

 

 

 

😂

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To Be Frank

Has the JKB update included an amalgamation with the Hearts FC Facebook page. The standard of posting seems to be particularly horrendous over the last 24 hours 😳

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Pasquale for King
Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Smithee said:

 

Well yeah, I know he had a hernia, he certainly had a hernia operation, and now there's something else. What exactly are you getting at when you ask if I know that for a fact?

 

I'd think it was more likely that the hernia and other issue are related rather than it being some coincidence or Levein induced problem.

That’s what I was indicating, do we actually know it was a hernia problem if that operation didn’t clear I up. I don’t blame Levein for playing him before Xmas or in the final, I would like him to try and find a solution to the injury problems that will ultimately cost him his job if it goes on.

Edited by Pasquale for King

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ToqueJambo
6 minutes ago, To Be Frank said:

Has the JKB update included an amalgamation with the Hearts FC Facebook page. The standard of posting seems to be particularly horrendous over the last 24 hours 😳

 

Schooooolllll's out for.... summer!

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Icon of Symmetry
12 minutes ago, To Be Frank said:

Has the JKB update included an amalgamation with the Hearts FC Facebook page. The standard of posting seems to be particularly horrendous over the last 24 hours 😳

 

Think Some posters are logging on from Parkfield school in Birmingham annaw.

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ToqueJambo
Posted (edited)
6 hours ago, Inch Hearts said:

 

How can you justify it being the correct decision at the time it it’s been admitted it was a gamble now the player isn’t ready for the start of the following season?  A gamble to try and win the cup against the odds instead of having one of the most valuable players ready for the following season?  That’s not even mentioning being rushed back over winter as there was no cover.  It’s ludicrous it can be defended in any way.  The player himself must be ragin’

 

This has to be one of the most bizarre things I've ever read from anyone claiming to be a football fan.

 

https://www.90min.com/posts/4321760-10-instances-where-footballers-played-through-a-serious-injury

 

 

Edited by ToqueJambo

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Zico
Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, CJGJ said:

God knows what some on here would have said about Colin Cameron's injury which kept him out for a while and not at full fitness

 

A gum shield was the solution despite all the experts the club used...they should have asked JKB at the time and hey presto

 

You have to love the medical experts we have on this board and that for them 'rest' does not apply

 

If you are injured it's the clubs fault, if you are not fit in a week it's the clubs fault, 2 weeks the clubs fault, 3 weeks the clubs fault and that of the surgeon, 5 weeks the club, Levein, the surgeon because he was clearly second rate

Over and above that its the second expert/surgeons fault because we had to use him and the clubs fault because we didn't use the second expert first

Great example. Our best player ruined by JJ, everyone at the club and multiple specialists before one of them could figure out what it was, told him to smoke 20 John Player Special a day and he saved us from relegation. But no, according to folk on here who struggle to piss and shit at the same time, two paracetamol and a pint of Tennents is all it takes to sort any injury. 

Edited by Zico

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Icon of Symmetry
3 hours ago, CJGJ said:

God knows what some on here would have said about Colin Cameron's injury which kept him out for a while and not at full fitness

 

A gum shield was the solution despite all the experts the club used...they should have asked JKB at the time and hey presto

 

You have to love the medical experts we have on this board and that for them 'rest' does not apply

 

If you are injured it's the clubs fault, if you are not fit in a week it's the clubs fault, 2 weeks the clubs fault, 3 weeks the clubs fault and that of the surgeon, 5 weeks the club, Levein, the surgeon because he was clearly second rate

Over and above that its the second expert/surgeons fault because we had to use him and the clubs fault because we didn't use the second expert first

 

Add to that the idea that a player can just return from injury and be 100% straight away. The mind boggles.

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Morgan
8 minutes ago, Zico said:

Great example. Our best player ruined by JJ, everyone at the club and multiple specialists before one of them could figure out what it was, told him to smoke 20 John Player Special a day and he saved us from relegation. But no, according to folk on here who struggle to piss and shit at the same time, two paracetamol and a pint of Tennents is all it takes to sort any injury. 

Works for me like.

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80bob
34 minutes ago, Morgan said:

Works for me like.

Two cures to all life’s aches and  pains according to nana 80bob.. either rub savalon on it or “huv a gid shite “

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scott herbertson
8 minutes ago, 80bob said:

Two cures to all life’s aches and  pains according to nana 80bob.. either rub savalon on it or “huv a gid shite “

 

 

I can vouch for both of these, though not at the same time

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JamboAl
10 hours ago, Sparkymarky1874 said:

Why is he still not fit? Can't believe the season is about to start and we still players injured or/and unfit 

You don't have many posts.  I wonder.

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JamboAl
4 hours ago, To Be Frank said:

 

Over 6 months 😂

 

 

 

 

😂

 

 

 

 

 

😂

C'mon Mitch, you're not a top surgeon/consultant as well as a brilliant football manager.

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Sparkymarky1874
8 hours ago, JamboAl said:

You don't have many posts.  I wonder.

You wonder what? Just joined yesterday. Bit suspicious 😂

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The Real Maroonblood
8 hours ago, JamboAl said:

You don't have many posts.  I wonder.

:cornette_dog:

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MoncurMacdonaldMercer
On 09/07/2019 at 19:05, Barack said:

He's dead. Time to move on.

 

albeit factually correct but poor taste and no need

 

 

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Barack
7 hours ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said:

 

albeit factually correct but poor taste and no need

 

 

Talking about a dead person? 

 

History wouldn't be up to much, if we didn't point out obvious things like death.

 

 

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MoncurMacdonaldMercer
1 hour ago, Barack said:

Talking about a dead person? 

 

History wouldn't be up to much, if we didn't point out obvious things like death.

 

 

 

i preferred the way JJ was my dad replied to the same post it seemed a much more fitting reference to mr mercer

 

if you're happy with yours that's ok too

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Barack
Just now, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said:

 

i preferred the way JJ was my dad replied to the same post it seemed a much more fitting reference to mr mercer

 

if you're happy with yours that's ok too

I am. Because it's accurate. 

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ToqueJambo
21 hours ago, Icon of Symmetry said:

 

Add to that the idea that a player can just return from injury and be 100% straight away. The mind boggles.

 

How the moon howlers think medicine works:

 

 

How they think Hearts medical teams works:

 

 

 

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upgotheheads
On 10/07/2019 at 18:16, CJGJ said:

God knows what some on here would have said about Colin Cameron's injury which kept him out for a while and not at full fitness

 

A gum shield was the solution despite all the experts the club used...they should have asked JKB at the time and hey presto

 

You have to love the medical experts we have on this board and that for them 'rest' does not apply

 

If you are injured it's the clubs fault, if you are not fit in a week it's the clubs fault, 2 weeks the clubs fault, 3 weeks the clubs fault and that of the surgeon, 5 weeks the club, Levein, the surgeon because he was clearly second rate

Over and above that its the second expert/surgeons fault because we had to use him and the clubs fault because we didn't use the second expert first

 

Medical problems can be weird.Colin Cameron's problem kept him out for months I recall. I have experience of something similar. I have spinal stenosis, waiting for an op. Went to the Doc's with pain in my jaw. Nowhere near my lower spine but I realized that the jaw pain was caused by constantly gritting my teeth in response to the pain in my back.

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Icon of Symmetry
11 hours ago, ToqueJambo said:

 

How the moon howlers think medicine works:

 

 

How they think Hearts medical teams works:

 

 

 

 

Indeed.

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thewiseone
10 hours ago, upgotheheads said:

 

Medical problems can be weird.Colin Cameron's problem kept him out for months I recall. I have experience of something similar. I have spinal stenosis, waiting for an op. Went to the Doc's with pain in my jaw. Nowhere near my lower spine but I realized that the jaw pain was caused by constantly gritting my teeth in response to the pain in my back.

Do yourself a favour. The last thing you ever want to do is have an operation.

Every avenue should be explored, the operation is the perceived easy fix, it doesn't work like that and once operated on you are only opening up yourself for more problems, The solution lies in the communication your body is presenting.

The jaw holds the key, teeth, amalgam and root canals should be eliminated.

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i8hibsh
On 10/07/2019 at 18:16, CJGJ said:

God knows what some on here would have said about Colin Cameron's injury which kept him out for a while and not at full fitness

 

A gum shield was the solution despite all the experts the club used...they should have asked JKB at the time and hey presto

 

You have to love the medical experts we have on this board and that for them 'rest' does not apply

 

If you are injured it's the clubs fault, if you are not fit in a week it's the clubs fault, 2 weeks the clubs fault, 3 weeks the clubs fault and that of the surgeon, 5 weeks the club, Levein, the surgeon because he was clearly second rate

Over and above that its the second expert/surgeons fault because we had to use him and the clubs fault because we didn't use the second expert first

 

 

No, but if almost the entire team at some stage last season had an injury, some players with two, key players with long term injuries then after a post season break followed by pre season training and still have players dropping like flies i'd say yeah IT IS THE CLUB's fault.

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upgotheheads
55 minutes ago, thewiseone said:

Do yourself a favour. The last thing you ever want to do is have an operation.

Every avenue should be explored, the operation is the perceived easy fix, it doesn't work like that and once operated on you are only opening up yourself for more problems, The solution lies in the communication your body is presenting.

The jaw holds the key, teeth, amalgam and root canals should be eliminated.

 

The MRI scan showed two things, a ruptured disc and arthritic nodules around L3 and L4 in the Lumbar region of my spine. The Disc problem has improved greatly, but the arthritic problem remains and can only be repaired by surgery. For about 8 weeks I was walking with 2 sticks but I can walk normally now. It was the worst pain I have ever experienced, missed about 4 home games as a result, that's how bad it was. Another symptom is loss of feeling down the front of both legs, that's still there. I know the risks of surgery but will be going ahead anyway.

Thanks for the advice though😁.

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Dusk_Till_Dawn
2 hours ago, i8hibsh said:

 

 

No, but if almost the entire team at some stage last season had an injury, some players with two, key players with long term injuries then after a post season break followed by pre season training and still have players dropping like flies i'd say yeah IT IS THE CLUB's fault.

 

No no mate, the club is literally above all criticism.

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The Treasurer
3 hours ago, i8hibsh said:

 

 

No, but if almost the entire team at some stage last season had an injury, some players with two, key players with long term injuries then after a post season break followed by pre season training and still have players dropping like flies i'd say yeah IT IS THE CLUB's fault.

I must have missed something.

Who are the players that are "dropping like flies" since the start of preseason ?

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davemclaren
7 minutes ago, The Treasurer said:

I must have missed something.

Who are the players that are "dropping like flies" since the start of preseason ?

The flies are in I8’s head. 😄

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wavydavy
16 minutes ago, The Treasurer said:

I must have missed something.

Who are the players that are "dropping like flies" since the start of preseason ?

 

I would imagine he is referring to the fact that Hickey, Haring, Walker, Wighton and apparently Uche are all injured with a couple more such as White and maybe Washington not fully fit yet.

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Vlad Magic
14 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

The flies are in I8’s head. 😄

 

With plenty room 👍

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i8hibsh
15 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

The flies are in I8’s head. 😄

 

How did you know I have nits.

 

:sob:

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JamboAl
4 minutes ago, wavydavy said:

 

I would imagine he is referring to the fact that Hickey, Haring, Walker, Wighton and apparently Uche are all injured with a couple more such as White and maybe Washington not fully fit yet.

Hibs are having similar problems with 5 or 6 of the squad "doubtful" for their first game.

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wavydavy
10 minutes ago, JamboAl said:

Hibs are having similar problems with 5 or 6 of the squad "doubtful" for their first game.

 

Good, shame it wasn't more.

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Selkirkhmfc1874
22 minutes ago, JamboAl said:

Hibs are having similar problems with 5 or 6 of the squad "doubtful" for their first game.

Who cares about hibs honestly ? We jambos and only care about our team 

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JamboAl
2 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said:

Who cares about hibs honestly ? We jambos and only care about our team 

I don't care about them either.  I was trying to point out we're not the only ones with such problems which in some cases could be a reaction to stringent pre-season training following a spell of (comparative) inactivity.

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The Treasurer
58 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

The flies are in I8’s head. 😄

We all know what flies are attracted to

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The Treasurer
48 minutes ago, wavydavy said:

 

I would imagine he is referring to the fact that Hickey, Haring, Walker, Wighton and apparently Uche are all injured with a couple more such as White and maybe Washington not fully fit yet.

So a couple that haven't recovered from previous injuries, a couple who have been injured but not quite match fit and a couple who have picked up the normal niggles that players get at this stage of preseason.

Not quite the mass casualties that i8 is implying

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wavydavy
48 minutes ago, The Treasurer said:

So a couple that haven't recovered from previous injuries, a couple who have been injured but not quite match fit and a couple who have picked up the normal niggles that players get at this stage of preseason.

Not quite the mass casualties that i8 is implying

 

No, probably what can be expected at this stage of pre - season. Lets just hope it doesn'ty continue on into the season like last time.

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Hungry hippo
1 hour ago, wavydavy said:

 

I would imagine he is referring to the fact that Hickey, Haring, Walker, Wighton and apparently Uche are all injured with a couple more such as White and maybe Washington not fully fit yet.

 

Being cautious with minor niggles is what all teams do in pre season. The only player that is a major concern is Haring.

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wavydavy
8 minutes ago, Hungry hippo said:

 

Being cautious with minor niggles is what all teams do in pre season. The only player that is a major concern is Haring.

 

The club should know soon if not already what his problem is after his visit to the specialist and start getting him sorted asap.

 

Hopefully not something that is going to be long term.

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The White Cockade
6 hours ago, davemclaren said:

The flies are in I8’s head. 😄

feeding on the tumbleweed?

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