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In season 1946-47, hearts striker at the time, Archie Kelly in a match against Kilmarnock, dived for a cross ball and hit a post at the school end with such force that he not only shattered his collar bone, but cracked the post as well

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18 minutes ago, Jambo-Fox said:

Interesting ... does that mean we died then? Ie we did in 1876 what Rangers took until 2012 to do?

No the Club maintained it's membership of the SFA but scratched from the Cup to Dunfermline.

 

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11 minutes ago, BarneyBattles said:

 

Finally you get it! Well done.

First in whole if Europe! Wow, what an accolade. Why haven't we got a star above the badge? 

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3 minutes ago, BarneyBattles said:

 

You’re being a bit of a dick now.

Apologies. No offence intended. 

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14 hours ago, Icon of Symmetry said:

1) That we brought Hibs back from extinction by playing against their phoenix club and lobbying for them to be allowed in to the Scottish League system.

2) That Hearts supporters played a part in Hands off Hibs when Mercer wanted to shut them down.

3) That Hibs supporters actively tried to delay our CVA and put Hearts in to liquidation.

 

Three things that the football world should be aware off, but many are not.

And yet we STILL have Hearts fans who throw that lot an olive branch. 

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10 hours ago, Tasavallan said:

 

As I was told by my Grandad, Hearts originally played in a white jersey but when they amalgamated with St Andrews they adopted St Andrews' colours of red, white & blue hoops.  After a game the jerseys were put in the wash and came out maroon.  And so the legend began...

The very first Heart of Midlothian kit, all white with a deep red heart on the breast and a team line down the pants. 

 

 

2nd image of the red white and blue kit with the initials MFBC emblazoned across the chest, Mid-Lothian Foot Ball Club.

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6 hours ago, BarneyBattles said:

 

I was at one of those smoker afternoon lunch things a few years back with roughie and Peter McCloy and that was the very question someone asked him ‘tell me Alan, how many derbies did you win during your six years at hibs’.

 

He was a good laugh to be fair but the girvan lighthouse was a bit dull to say the least. 

 

Our unused sub in both games against Bayern. 

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8 hours ago, Hearts_Museum said:

No the Club maintained it's membership of the SFA but scratched from the Cup to Dunfermline.

 

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13 hours ago, 4marsbars said:

Look up Hibs European Record, easily found.

I'll take your word for it although I'd always thought they'd achieved that at least a few times...... maybe no then ?

 

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On 27/06/2019 at 00:59, ToqueJambo said:

 

What's the story behind that then? Hearts fan in the crew?

Yes?

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18 hours ago, milky_26 said:

we have won the scottish cup at 3 different grounds, hampden, parkhead and logie green road

It’s actually five different stadiums 

Ibrox

Parkhead

Cathkin 

Hampden

Logie Green 

?

 

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15 hours ago, letsalldothebeattie said:

Want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. I’ve sent my bit into FourFourTwo as it’s needed for tomorrow and included 4/5 suggestions from this thread and will wait and see which bit or bits will be included in the Hearts page in the season preview edition of the magazine along with everything else that was needing answered for the article 

 

Well done 

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9 minutes ago, gerryjambo41 said:

It’s actually five different stadiums 

Ibrox

Parkhead

Cathkin 

Hampden

Logie Green 

?

 

Does that make hearts the only team to win the cup at every ground the final has been played in?

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I might be wrong,  but I'm thinking that we also could have won the league, another time, in the 1950s, on the last day of the season, but lost at Parkhead. The team who started the day above us also lost, giving us the chance.

So that would be 3 times, in my lifetime, that we have failed to win the league on the last day, when a win, or draw the last 2 times, would have done it.

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On 26/06/2019 at 22:40, been here before said:

There is a nod to the 2012 Final in the Eddie The Eagle biopic...

 

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Haha is this genuine? Iv seen the film never noticed that but it is superb

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16 minutes ago, sadj said:

Haha is this genuine? Iv seen the film never noticed that but it is superb

Yes it is real

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2 hours ago, gerryjambo41 said:

It’s actually five different stadiums 

Ibrox

Parkhead

Cathkin 

Hampden

Logie Green 

?

 

When did we win it at Ibrox?

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1 hour ago, sadj said:

Haha is this genuine? Iv seen the film never noticed that but it is superb

 

100% genuine. ?

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1 minute ago, Notts1874 said:

Was Tynecastle not the first ground to sell Bovril or am i just making that up???

 

Think the stuff might have been invented and first produced in Midlothian, so possible, if so.

 

Bovril Johnstone in Rosslyn, no?

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The Natural Order

We're the only club to ever be kicked out the Scottish Cup for fielding professional players.

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1 hour ago, SectionDJambo said:

I might be wrong,  but I'm thinking that we also could have won the league, another time, in the 1950s, on the last day of the season, but lost at Parkhead. The team who started the day above us also lost, giving us the chance.

So that would be 3 times, in my lifetime, that we have failed to win the league on the last day, when a win, or draw the last 2 times, would have done it.

 

We could have won the title in 1957 and '59. 

 

Joint top in 1957 with three games left, the first of which was effectively a winner take all, title decider v. Rangers at Tynecastle. We murdered them, apparently, but lost 0-1. We both, as expected, won our last two games and had to settle for 2nd.

 

1959 we were 2 points behind Rangers on the last day. We had to win at Parkhead, not a daunting prospect at that time, and hope Aberdeen won at Ibrox. They did, 1-2. We actually took the lead v. Celtic but lost 2-1 and, again, had to settle for 2nd.

 

Add in 1915, 1965 and 1986 and we're due a break the next time we get to ourselves into that position. We'll have to earn that break, every single bit of it, but I live in hope that one day...

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We have also beaten Celtic at the home of Rangers in a final and Rangers at the home of Celtic in a final, as well as beating Third Lanark at the home of Queen's Park (big local rivals at that time) in a final.

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7 minutes ago, CostaJambo said:

Only fans who have visited the ground would know about the brewery smell.

What brewery is this you speak of ?

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17 hours ago, dannymack said:

The very first Heart of Midlothian kit, all white with a deep red heart on the breast and a team line down the pants. 

 

 

2nd image of the red white and blue kit with the initials MFBC emblazoned across the chest, Mid-Lothian Foot Ball Club.

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Wolverine played for us as well !!

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11 minutes ago, CostaJambo said:

Only fans who have visited the ground would know about the brewery smell.

 

?

 

3 minutes ago, CJGJ said:

What brewery is this you speak of ?

 

He meant the distillery.

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Anyway, enough of this interesting nonsense, but I am just about to finish my beer and head to the metro for the Argentina v Venezuela match in the Maracaná. This will be my fourth match in this stadium without seeing Brazil. I've got tickets for the semi in Belo on Tuesday (potentially Brazil v Argentina) and for the final a week on Sunday. If Argentina or Venezuela were to win the semi, it would mean that my trip to the Copa America saw me visit the Maracaná FIVE times without seeing the hosts. On the other hand, if they win the semi, my only time seeing them this trip would be in their own stadium in the final of the Copa America. I still think the winner will come from the other semi-final.

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4 hours ago, sadj said:

Haha is this genuine? Iv seen the film never noticed that but it is superb

 

100% genuine 

:)

 

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1 hour ago, vasco said:

Anyway, enough of this interesting nonsense, but I am just about to finish my beer and head to the metro for the Argentina v Venezuela match in the Maracaná. This will be my fourth match in this stadium without seeing Brazil. I've got tickets for the semi in Belo on Tuesday (potentially Brazil v Argentina) and for the final a week on Sunday. If Argentina or Venezuela were to win the semi, it would mean that my trip to the Copa America saw me visit the Maracaná FIVE times without seeing the hosts. On the other hand, if they win the semi, my only time seeing them this trip would be in their own stadium in the final of the Copa America. I still think the winner will come from the other semi-final.

 

Mens fitba?

 

Shite compared to the WWC. 

 

Genuinely can't wait for France v. USA. :)

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3 hours ago, CJGJ said:

What brewery is this you speak of ?

Was it not S&N? Not entirely sure and haven't lived in Edinburgh for donkeys years so this may not be known to younger supporters!!!! If the wind was blowing in the right direction I used to be able occasionally to trap the smell in my bedroom.

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On 28/06/2019 at 12:07, gerryjambo41 said:

It’s actually five different stadiums 

Ibrox

Parkhead

Cathkin 

Hampden

Logie Green 

?

 

 

On 28/06/2019 at 14:29, milky_26 said:

When did we win it at Ibrox?

 

Hearts 4 Celtic 3 in 1901

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WorldChampions1902

Great thread!

 

Two Hearts players loaned 11 of their Scotland shirts to two teams for a match. Bobby Walker for a benefit game and Tommy Walker to Scotland during WW2 because the SFA were unable to kit out our players due to rationing.

 

Hearts were the only team to defeat Man City 6-5 in a Cup Final (Empire State Cup).

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On 29/06/2019 at 01:04, vasco said:

We were the first opponents of Rangers st the current Ibrox, losing 3-1 on 30th December 1899.

Levein oot.

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On 28/06/2019 at 15:54, martoon said:

 

We could have won the title in 1957 and '59. 

 

Joint top in 1957 with three games left, the first of which was effectively a winner take all, title decider v. Rangers at Tynecastle. We murdered them, apparently, but lost 0-1. We both, as expected, won our last two games and had to settle for 2nd.

 

1959 we were 2 points behind Rangers on the last day. We had to win at Parkhead, not a daunting prospect at that time, and hope Aberdeen won at Ibrox. They did, 1-2. We actually took the lead v. Celtic but lost 2-1 and, again, had to settle for 2nd.

 

Add in 1915, 1965 and 1986 and we're due a break the next time we get to ourselves into that position. We'll have to earn that break, every single bit of it, but I live in hope that one day...

 

Add 1954 to the list.

They beat Celtic 3-2 with a last minute winner then came back from 3-1 down to draw with Rangers 3-3.
They were 7 points clear but lost 3 of their last 5 fixtures to hand the title to Celtic.

1954-02-06 Sat Hearts 3-2 Celtic 15:00 Division A 24 of 30 47519
1954-02-20 Sat Hearts 3-3 Rangers 15:00 Division A 25 of 30 49000
1954-03-06 Sat Raith Rovers 4-2 Hearts 15:00 Division A 26 of 30 16000
1954-03-17 Wed Hearts 3-0 Hamilton Academical 16:15 Division A 27 of 30 12000
1954-03-20 Sat Aberdeen 1-0 Hearts 15:00 Division A 28 of 30 17000
1954-04-17 Sat Clyde 0-1 Hearts 15:00 Division A 29 of 30 15000
1954-04-19 Mon Partick Thistle 2-1 Hearts Division A 30 of 30 12000
 

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3 hours ago, Hearts_Museum said:

 

Add 1954 to the list.

They beat Celtic 3-2 with a last minute winner then came back from 3-1 down to draw with Rangers 3-3.
They were 7 points clear but lost 3 of their last 5 fixtures to hand the title to Celtic.

1954-02-06 Sat Hearts 3-2 Celtic 15:00 Division A 24 of 30 47519
1954-02-20 Sat Hearts 3-3 Rangers 15:00 Division A 25 of 30 49000
1954-03-06 Sat Raith Rovers 4-2 Hearts 15:00 Division A 26 of 30 16000
1954-03-17 Wed Hearts 3-0 Hamilton Academical 16:15 Division A 27 of 30 12000
1954-03-20 Sat Aberdeen 1-0 Hearts 15:00 Division A 28 of 30 17000
1954-04-17 Sat Clyde 0-1 Hearts 15:00 Division A 29 of 30 15000
1954-04-19 Mon Partick Thistle 2-1 Hearts Division A 30 of 30 12000
 

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Kickback would have been a riot back then ???

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6 hours ago, Hearts_Museum said:

 

Add 1954 to the list.

They beat Celtic 3-2 with a last minute winner then came back from 3-1 down to draw with Rangers 3-3.
They were 7 points clear but lost 3 of their last 5 fixtures to hand the title to Celtic.

1954-02-06 Sat Hearts 3-2 Celtic 15:00 Division A 24 of 30 47519
1954-02-20 Sat Hearts 3-3 Rangers 15:00 Division A 25 of 30 49000
1954-03-06 Sat Raith Rovers 4-2 Hearts 15:00 Division A 26 of 30 16000
1954-03-17 Wed Hearts 3-0 Hamilton Academical 16:15 Division A 27 of 30 12000
1954-03-20 Sat Aberdeen 1-0 Hearts 15:00 Division A 28 of 30 17000
1954-04-17 Sat Clyde 0-1 Hearts 15:00 Division A 29 of 30 15000
1954-04-19 Mon Partick Thistle 2-1 Hearts Division A 30 of 30 12000
 

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Cheers for the reply and info. I knew we'd been in the title race in '54, and finished 2nd, but wasn't sure how close we'd actually been that year. 

 

I recall reading that the title in 1938 was perhaps another that got away. Undone by a 2-4 defeat by Celtic in a head to head encounter. Again, I know we were runners up but unsure how close we actually were. 

 

The 1930's team, like the 1980's lads,  really should have won something. 

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22 hours ago, martoon said:

 

Cheers for the reply and info. I knew we'd been in the title race in '54, and finished 2nd, but wasn't sure how close we'd actually been that year. 

 

I recall reading that the title in 1938 was perhaps another that got away. Undone by a 2-4 defeat by Celtic in a head to head encounter. Again, I know we were runners up but unsure how close we actually were. 

 

The 1930's team, like the 1980's lads,  really should have won something. 


1937-38 was a lot further from the finish. Hearts were winning 2-1 with 15 minutes to go.

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1 hour ago, Hearts_Museum said:

Though if they had won that game that 4 point swing .....

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1 hour ago, Hearts_Museum said:

Though if they had won that game that 4 point swing .....

 

 

Cheers, bud. 

 

Great stuff as per from London Hearts. 

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What is less well known is Hibs AND Celtic throwing away the league in 1896-97.
 

Sat 15 Aug 1896 Dundee 0 Heart Of Midlothian 5
Sat 15 Aug 1896 Hibernian 3 Celtic 1
Mon 17 Aug 1896 Clyde 2 Celtic 7
Wed 19 Aug 1896 Hibernian 2 Third Lanark 0
Sat 22 Aug 1896 Celtic 2 St Bernards 0
Sat 22 Aug 1896 Dundee 3 Hibernian 0
Sat 22 Aug 1896 Heart Of Midlothian 6 Abercorn 1
Sat 29 Aug 1896 Abercorn 0 Celtic 6
Sat 29 Aug 1896 Clyde 0 Hibernian 7
Sat 29 Aug 1896 Heart Of Midlothian 2 St Mirren 1
Sat 05 Sep 1896 Celtic 3 Heart Of Midlothian 0
Sat 05 Sep 1896 Hibernian 4 Rangers 3
Sat 12 Sep 1896 Abercorn 2 Hibernian 2
Sat 12 Sep 1896 Rangers 5 Heart Of Midlothian 0

Sat 12 Sep 1896 St Bernards 1 Celtic 2
Sat 19 Sep 1896 Heart Of Midlothian 2 Dundee 2
Sat 19 Sep 1896 Hibernian 2 St Bernards 0
Mon 21 Sep 1896 Heart Of Midlothian 2 Rangers 1
Sat 26 Sep 1896 Celtic 2 St Mirren 1
Sat 26 Sep 1896 Hibernian 2 Heart Of Midlothian 0
Sat 03 Oct 1896 Dundee 2 Celtic 2
Sat 03 Oct 1896 Rangers 4 Hibernian 3
Sat 03 Oct 1896 St Bernards 2 Heart Of Midlothian 5
Sat 10 Oct 1896 Celtic 1 Rangers 1
Sat 17 Oct 1896 Celtic 2 Third Lanark 0
Sat 17 Oct 1896 St Bernards 0 Hibernian 1
Sat 17 Oct 1896 St Mirren 0 Heart Of Midlothian 2
Sat 24 Oct 1896 Heart Of Midlothian 1 Celtic 1
Sat 31 Oct 1896 Abercorn 0 Heart Of Midlothian 1
Sat 31 Oct 1896 Hibernian 3 Dundee 1
Sat 07 Nov 1896 Celtic 5 Abercorn 0
Sat 07 Nov 1896 Heart Of Midlothian 3 St Bernards 1
Sat 07 Nov 1896 Third Lanark 1 Hibernian 3
Sat 14 Nov 1896 Hibernian 5 Clyde 1
Sat 21 Nov 1896 Heart Of Midlothian 2 Third Lanark 1
Sat 21 Nov 1896 Hibernian 9 Abercorn 0
Sat 28 Nov 1896 Celtic 1 Hibernian 1
Sat 05 Dec 1896 Heart Of Midlothian 1 Hibernian 0
Sat 05 Dec 1896 Third Lanark 0 Celtic 3
Sat 12 Dec 1896 Celtic 4 Clyde 1
Sat 12 Dec 1896 Third Lanark 1 Heart Of Midlothian 5
Sat 19 Dec 1896 Rangers 2 Celtic 0
Sat 16 Jan 1897 Hibernian 3 St Mirren 0
Sat 13 Feb 1897 Clyde 1 Heart Of Midlothian 5
Sat 13 Feb 1897 St Mirren 2 Hibernian 0
Sat 20 Feb 1897 Celtic 0 Dundee 1

Sat 20 Feb 1897 Heart Of Midlothian 5 Clyde 0
Sat 13 Mar 1897 St Mirren 2 Celtic 0

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36 minutes ago, Hearts_Museum said:

What is less well known is Hibs AND Celtic throwing away the league in 1896-97.
 

Sat 15 Aug 1896 Dundee 0 Heart Of Midlothian 5
Sat 15 Aug 1896 Hibernian 3 Celtic 1
Mon 17 Aug 1896 Clyde 2 Celtic 7
Wed 19 Aug 1896 Hibernian 2 Third Lanark 0
Sat 22 Aug 1896 Celtic 2 St Bernards 0
Sat 22 Aug 1896 Dundee 3 Hibernian 0
Sat 22 Aug 1896 Heart Of Midlothian 6 Abercorn 1
Sat 29 Aug 1896 Abercorn 0 Celtic 6
Sat 29 Aug 1896 Clyde 0 Hibernian 7
Sat 29 Aug 1896 Heart Of Midlothian 2 St Mirren 1
Sat 05 Sep 1896 Celtic 3 Heart Of Midlothian 0
Sat 05 Sep 1896 Hibernian 4 Rangers 3
Sat 12 Sep 1896 Abercorn 2 Hibernian 2
Sat 12 Sep 1896 Rangers 5 Heart Of Midlothian 0

Sat 12 Sep 1896 St Bernards 1 Celtic 2
Sat 19 Sep 1896 Heart Of Midlothian 2 Dundee 2
Sat 19 Sep 1896 Hibernian 2 St Bernards 0
Mon 21 Sep 1896 Heart Of Midlothian 2 Rangers 1
Sat 26 Sep 1896 Celtic 2 St Mirren 1
Sat 26 Sep 1896 Hibernian 2 Heart Of Midlothian 0
Sat 03 Oct 1896 Dundee 2 Celtic 2
Sat 03 Oct 1896 Rangers 4 Hibernian 3
Sat 03 Oct 1896 St Bernards 2 Heart Of Midlothian 5
Sat 10 Oct 1896 Celtic 1 Rangers 1
Sat 17 Oct 1896 Celtic 2 Third Lanark 0
Sat 17 Oct 1896 St Bernards 0 Hibernian 1
Sat 17 Oct 1896 St Mirren 0 Heart Of Midlothian 2
Sat 24 Oct 1896 Heart Of Midlothian 1 Celtic 1
Sat 31 Oct 1896 Abercorn 0 Heart Of Midlothian 1
Sat 31 Oct 1896 Hibernian 3 Dundee 1
Sat 07 Nov 1896 Celtic 5 Abercorn 0
Sat 07 Nov 1896 Heart Of Midlothian 3 St Bernards 1
Sat 07 Nov 1896 Third Lanark 1 Hibernian 3
Sat 14 Nov 1896 Hibernian 5 Clyde 1
Sat 21 Nov 1896 Heart Of Midlothian 2 Third Lanark 1
Sat 21 Nov 1896 Hibernian 9 Abercorn 0
Sat 28 Nov 1896 Celtic 1 Hibernian 1
Sat 05 Dec 1896 Heart Of Midlothian 1 Hibernian 0
Sat 05 Dec 1896 Third Lanark 0 Celtic 3
Sat 12 Dec 1896 Celtic 4 Clyde 1
Sat 12 Dec 1896 Third Lanark 1 Heart Of Midlothian 5
Sat 19 Dec 1896 Rangers 2 Celtic 0
Sat 16 Jan 1897 Hibernian 3 St Mirren 0
Sat 13 Feb 1897 Clyde 1 Heart Of Midlothian 5
Sat 13 Feb 1897 St Mirren 2 Hibernian 0
Sat 20 Feb 1897 Celtic 0 Dundee 1

Sat 20 Feb 1897 Heart Of Midlothian 5 Clyde 0
Sat 13 Mar 1897 St Mirren 2 Celtic 0

 

Always knew the 1-0 derby win was a pivotal moment. Hibs wouldn't have clinched it by winning at Tynecastle but our chances would have been all but ended and Celtic would have had a lot to do to stop them. 

 

How ironic that St. Mirren and Dundee played such a big part in our title win.

 

Great stuff again, bud. Hopefully, one day, we'll be involved again in the race for the title and emerge as Champions.

 

I'll never stop believing.

 

Edit: I did the arithmetic, btw. :)

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