Phil Dunphy Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Anyone who supports its introduction doesn't understand football. Football isn't the sport for you. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EIEIO Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Imagine we saved a penalty against Sellick or the huns when VAR was in place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbusby6 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 If that's VAR you can keep it. Totally ruins the game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCrae Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Phil Dunphy said: Anyone who supports its introduction doesn't understand football. Football isn't the sport for you. Sorry. Don’t agree. If you are referring to tonight’s Scotland game, the Ref got both decisions wrong. VAR was correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, Phil Dunphy said: Anyone who supports its introduction doesn't understand football. Football isn't the sport for you. Sorry. Correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 People want this. Ruinous to the game and a charter to cheat on top of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted June 19, 2019 Author Share Posted June 19, 2019 Just now, McCrae said: Don’t agree. If you are referring to tonight’s Scotland game, the Ref got both decisions wrong. VAR was correct. VAR shouldn't decide football matches like that. That's a penalty, if a referee can't make that call in real time, they shouldn't be at that level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pants Shaton Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 We might like it in the SPL if it cuts out Old Firm cheating. Otherwise, where refs are fair, it has ****ed football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babywhalo Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 If folk are moaning about VAR when it got two decisions clearly correct, I wonder what they'll say when it gets it wrong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, Phil Dunphy said: Anyone who supports its introduction doesn't understand football. Football isn't the sport for you. Sorry. We’ve just had the best World Cup and best Champions League for a long time, both used VAR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCrae Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Phil Dunphy said: VAR shouldn't decide football matches like that. That's a penalty, if a referee can't make that call in real time, they shouldn't be at that level. I disagree. It’s there to help refs. It was a clear penalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Scotland were shafted in an earlier game by VAR NOT being used to make the correct call. VAR does not do what it is there to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie2004 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 3 games and 3 VAR penalties given against Scotland! Perhaps I am biased but I am a Scot and must question its use and also the referees involved! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted June 19, 2019 Author Share Posted June 19, 2019 Just now, Mr Elwood P said: We’ve just had the best World Cup and best Champions League for a long time, both used VAR. VAR didn't help those tournaments be a success. Football did that. Football worked for over 100 years without it. It doesn't need it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, McCrae said: I disagree. It’s there to help refs. It was a clear penalty. It's killing the game and mistakes are still happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 I have totally turned my views on this around. I now don't want it anywhere near the game in Scotland. It is making a mockery of the Woman's world Cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted June 19, 2019 Author Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 minute ago, McCrae said: I disagree. It’s there to help refs. It was a clear penalty. Call me a bluff old traditionalist, but I think the 130 odd years of football without it was a banging success. A proper referee gives that decision. That was an absolute farce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Is this where the cavemen are hanging out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 The issue was the new feet on the line rule for the keeper. Though I thought it was a foul in build up to first goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Can't say I am a fan but it's hard to disagree that its not fair. Like everything else it will be great when it is in your favour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCrae Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Gambo said: It's killing the game and mistakes are still happening. I don’t think so..... it really added to the Spurs, Man City champs league game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Just now, Phil Dunphy said: VAR didn't help those tournaments be a success. Football did that. Football worked for over 100 years without it. It doesn't need it now. Not sure that is true. The PSG v Manchester United game, last min pen brought about by VAR. Probably one of the most dramatic ends to a Champions League game in years. The disallowed Manchester City goal in the game with Spurs. Also excellent entertainment, especially if you dislike City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morph Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 It’s the penalty rule that’s terrible in the situation tonight rather than the use of var. Does take away some of the excitement though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 While VAR is an utter shite heap, the concentration should be put on the added time shambles. That's the real disgrace here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted June 19, 2019 Author Share Posted June 19, 2019 Just now, Mr Elwood P said: Not sure that is true. The PSG v Manchester United game, last min pen brought about by VAR. Probably one of the most dramatic ends to a Champions League game in years. The disallowed Manchester City goal in the game with Spurs. Also excellent entertainment, especially if you dislike City. There's the problem. Football is a sport, not an entertainment business. That game descended into an absolute farce tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 We absolutely need VAR. My problem with VAR is it shouldn’t be subjective, it should be for every wrong decision. It’s the small fouls, stolen yards etc etc that effect the game the most. You either use it for every decision or we patch it. Mon tonight’s viewing we also need a stop clock system with VAR as the shambles tonight was a joke. Penalty given at 85 minutes and took almost 10 minutes all in to get the game back going, game ended 30 seconds after the game restarted. Joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copa-mundial Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Var's called both decisions spot on. The ref missed them. Var didn't. It's why it's in place. Don't be mad at var. No team should be throwing away a 3 goal lead, with 14 minutes to go. Regardless what team it is. Be mad at that. Not var. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrymac Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Its a shame VAR couldnt stretch to a watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, Pants Shaton said: We might like it in the SPL if it cuts out Old Firm cheating. Otherwise, where refs are fair, it has ****ed football. You will still have OF minded refs making final decisions upon reviewing it, or to even review it at all. Na its completely ruining the game. I was all for it to begin with but no thanks. Goalline technoligy yes but let the ref be the ref and make calls as the action happens like we have done for the past 125 years or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboelite Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 The rule of a keeper not bring allowed to move off their line with both feet is a rule that is even worse. VAR decision was correct it was a pen and it should have given Scotland one against Japan had it been used. Its shite referees unable to work it properly including time added on which is the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 It is who is behind VAR that is the problem, and how selective they are. How far back do they rewind? Do they ignore a free kick being taken in the build up to a penalty when a substitution is ongoing? Apparently not tonight. The keeper on the line rule is nuts too. Slows the game down massively, and things are under the microscope that could not be seen in real time. What a boring terrible way to officiate football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Finally seems others are starting to realise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 13 minutes ago, EIEIO said: Imagine we saved a penalty against Sellick or the huns when VAR was in place? Imagine we had a penalty saved by some cheating hun jumping off his line, but VAR correctly ordered a retake and we scored. Wouldn't be complaining then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Victorian said: While VAR is an utter shite heap, the concentration should be put on the added time shambles. That's the real disgrace here. Yep. That's the issue. Obviously annoyed from a scotland perspective but Argentina must be unhappy too. They probably had more chance of a winner and progressing than we did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted June 19, 2019 Author Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 minute ago, copa-mundial said: Var's called both decisions spot on. The ref missed them. Var didn't. It's why it's in place. Don't be mad at var. No team should be throwing away a 3 goal lead, with 14 minutes to go. Regardless what team it is. Be mad at that. Not var. I'm Northern Irish and couldn't give a **** about the fortunes of the Scottish Women's team. But I absolutely hate what this shambles of a system means for the game I love. *Goal scored* "Wait lads, just need to spend 6 minutes to decide whether the goal should stand. Bear with me." That's not football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, Phil Dunphy said: VAR shouldn't decide football matches like that. That's a penalty, if a referee can't make that call in real time, they shouldn't be at that level. Var done its job tonight.The ref was rotten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Just now, copa-mundial said: Var's called both decisions spot on. The ref missed them. Var didn't. It's why it's in place. Don't be mad at var. No team should be throwing away a 3 goal lead, with 14 minutes to go. Regardless what team it is. Be mad at that. Not var. How do you explain VAR not coming into play to award pens to Scotland in an earlier game? All it's doing is to shift selective judgement and incompetence from one person to another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Let’s also not forget that less than a month ago we where all calling for VAR in the cup final. I agree that’s tonight’s use of it and in this tournament so far it’s been a shambles tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 How long until a keeper cracks their head open by diving into the post because they can't jump forward from their line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted June 19, 2019 Author Share Posted June 19, 2019 Just now, benny said: Var done its job tonight.The ref was rotten. I'm sorry, but video referees shouldn't be used as a crutch to support dreadful refereeing. I'm not disputing the fact it was a penalty. Clear as day. But the manner which it was given and ordered to be retaken? No. No thank you. If that's the way football's heading, I'm out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoked-Glass Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 21 minutes ago, Phil Dunphy said: Anyone who supports its introduction doesn't understand football. Football isn't the sport for you. Sorry. I agree. Get it to fk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 I worry for the far flung Jambos who have a train to catch after the final whistle if it takes ten minutes to check every decision in the box. Let's have timeouts too and Americanise the game to three hours duration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 minute ago, kila said: How long until a keeper cracks their head open by diving into the post because they can't jump forward from their line? I'm pretty certain this will never happen. That would be some leap considering most keepers can only just reach the posts with their arms fully outstretched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted June 19, 2019 Author Share Posted June 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: Imagine we had a penalty saved by some cheating hun jumping off his line, but VAR correctly ordered a retake and we scored. Wouldn't be complaining then. And if the shoe was on the other foot? "I'd be delighted if it worked in our favour" isn't reason enough to completely change the way the game of football is played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south morroccan Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: Imagine we had a penalty saved by some cheating hun jumping off his line, but VAR correctly ordered a retake and we scored. Wouldn't be complaining then. If we had a penalty saved by some cheating hun and VAR ordered a retake the game would have to be abandoned after the pitch invasion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Been saying this for ages and kept getting lambasted for it. What's changed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newton51 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Takes far too long to make a decision. Thought was a clear pen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Phil Dunphy said: I'm sorry, but video referees shouldn't be used as a crutch to support dreadful refereeing. I'm not disputing the fact it was a penalty. Clear as day. But the manner which it was given and ordered to be retaken? No. No thank you. If that's the way football's heading, I'm out. Much better to allow a team to cheat and win despite breaking the rules right enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Landmesser Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 VAR used properly can work, but having said that, I hate it and want it nowhere near football. It has ruined so many goals, so many penalty saves, as there's always a doubt about whether it'll be allowed. The new handball rule and the keeper's foot rule are both utter bullshit, devised to justify using VAR. **** FIFA for doing their level best to ruin the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrymac Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 minute ago, All roads lead to Gorgie said: I worry for the far flung Jambos who have a train to catch after the final whistle if it takes ten minutes to check every decision in the box. Let's have timeouts too and Americanise the game to three hours duration. Spot on .That is exactly what is happening. Stopping the game for commercial breaks probably next on the agenda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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