babywhalo Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Phil Dunphy said: Edited January 11, 2020 by babywhalo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babywhalo Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Phil Dunphy said: Edited January 11, 2020 by babywhalo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 28 minutes ago, Phil Dunphy said: There is no consistency, though. A goal was scored directly after these three incidents, but only one was disallowed. Where is the consistency? The laws were brought in to get consistency. EPL officials being a law onto themselves is not FIFA's fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tommy Brown said: The laws were brought in to get consistency. EPL officials being a law onto themselves is not FIFA's fault. that is a massive problem with the way the FA are implementing it. The best thing they could do is tell Mike Riley to get stuffed and follow the FIFA/IFAB guidance more closely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Couldn't we just change the rules to allow handball to control the ball? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticJambo Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Couldn't refs just not give handballs in situations where the player hasn't played to influence the ball with his 'hand'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock _turd Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Tommy Brown said: As I posted earlier this morning, laws were changed to get a consistency. Whether you think it is harsh or not., a line in the sand needed drawn. VAR actually done it proper job in this case. HANDLING THE BALL It is an offence if a player: deliberately touches the ball with their hand/arm, including moving the hand/arm towards the ball gains possession/control of the ball after it has touched their hand/arm and then: scores in the opponents’ goal creates a goal-scoring opportunity scores in the opponents’ goal directly from their hand/arm, even if accidental, including by the goalkeeper It is usually an offence if a player: touches the ball with their hand/arm when: the hand/arm has made their body unnaturally bigger the hand/arm is above/beyond their shoulder level (unless the player deliberately plays the ball which then touches their hand/arm) The above offences apply even if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close. Except for the above offences, it is not usually an offence if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm: directly from the player’s own head or body (including the foot) directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close if the hand/arm is close to the body and does not make the body unnaturally bigger when a player falls and the hand/arm is between the body and the ground to support the body, but not extended laterally or vertically away from the body The goalkeeper has the same restrictions on handling the ball as any other player outside the penalty area. If the goalkeeper handles the ball inside their penalty area when not permitted to do so, an indirect free kick is awarded but there is no disciplinary sanction. Sorry my ignorance of the rules. So in fact the act of a player involuntary touching the ball is a foul now. I did not know this, I think this rule is unjustly punitive to be honest. For my part I think that the handball last night was absolutely accidental and the rule is bound to cause all sorts of disputes... which I can fully understand. FWIW had that happened in a SPL game involving either of the two uglies .... nothing to see here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 49 minutes ago, redjambo said: Couldn't we just change the rules to allow handball to control the ball? Certainly Barry Ferguson thinks so. Mind you he could do it without a change in the laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Abameyang straight red via var. Sore one on meyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jambof3tornado said: Abameyang straight red via var. Sore one on meyer. Absolute shocker when you see the slo-mo of it. Ankles shouldn’t bend like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 17 minutes ago, Tazio said: Absolute shocker when you see the slo-mo of it. Ankles shouldn’t bend like that. Cant believe at first the studio ref was saying yellow....changed his tune when told it was being upgraded to red. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticJambo Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Think he's just been a bit unlucky tbh. Abameyang can't pull out of it, and the reason he catches him above the ankle is that Palace player has gone outside, inside dribble, and into the tackle. At the end of the day he'll accept it was probably a bit reckless but not unknown in football, fat from it actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock _turd Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 So with VAR only fouls ,offside or handball incidents are applicable ? A wrongly given throw in leading to a goal... tough F'n luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpship Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 How f-ing boring is VAR... first thing the focus on.. We will probably end up getting it but it will be a disaster... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Dance Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, jock _turd said: So with VAR only fouls ,offside or handball incidents are applicable ? A wrongly given throw in leading to a goal... tough F'n luck Nah, VAR never going to rule that out as team had time to set themselves. Same applies to offsides, handball etc. Interesting if it there was ever a foul throw near the box though..! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie Eskilsson Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 10 hours ago, Paolo said: VAR, however, was meant only for clear and obvious errors. If we are saying it was an error, it was neither clear or obvious. Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, Paolo said: VAR, however, was meant only for clear and obvious errors. If we are saying it was an error, it was neither clear or obvious. That's only half correct. The "clear and obvious" only applies to subjective decisions, e.g. penalty calls or red card offences. VAR also rules on matters of fact, offsides, penalties inside/outside the box, encroachment and ...... in light of the new rules, a handball in the lead up to a goal. I don't like the new handball rule as it treats handball differently depending on where on the pitch it happens. That can't be right. You might as well rule every handball as a free kick or, conversely, let players use any part of the body to play the ball, including hands and arms. Edited January 11, 2020 by Footballfirst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) Watching MOTD and seeing the full Robertson tackle, the still being showing across social media doesn't reflect the full challenge. Certainly not a red card. Edited January 12, 2020 by DETTY29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Just did its best to disallow an arsenal goal before admitting defeat. Absolute nonsense to see though. Loud anti-var chants going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) On 12/01/2020 at 08:59, DETTY29 said: Watching MOTD and seeing the full Robertson tackle, the still being showing across social media doesn't reflect the full challenge. Certainly not a red card. Edit Crap joke to out of date post Edited January 27, 2020 by Tommy Brown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) To be used in the Europa League knock out stages Let's see how Celtic and Rangers fair under the microscope at all times Edited February 17, 2020 by kila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoked-Glass Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) In the future you ll be able to take the arms off the players and put them back on again after the game. Only 1 outfield player each for throw ons. No more hand balls.. Blissss N. B. Wouldn't work for boxing Edited February 17, 2020 by Smoked-Glass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo66 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 2 hours ago, kila said: To be used in the Europa League knock out stages Let's see how Celtic and Rangers fair under the microscope at all times They already struggle when they don't have pet referees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 How did VAR not rule that Maguire kick in the baws was not a red card offence? Son got sent off for less earlier in the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) Maguire kick out. Video - https://streamable.com/6d3s6 Edited February 17, 2020 by Footballfirst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Wasn't a goal to be disallowed so they weren't interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, Footballfirst said: Maguire kick out. Video - https://streamable.com/6d3s6 Watching the game. Just bizarre. This is a red card every day of the week. He kicks him in the balls with the actual ball nowhere near. Who TF are the referees and WTF are they actually watching? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swanny17 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Boulder heid should definitely have walked for that, red card all day long! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 England captain syndrome? Remember Shearer on Lennon? The elbow on Christiansen no action either. Guilty player then scores whilst the guy with the burst nose is still clearing his head. Booking Willian for a dive. Taylor not having his best game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Big chance to disallow a goal now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Chelsea getting the rough end of the VAR (or lack of) tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 In a side note, Martial is a total cock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redhelen Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Footballfirst said: How did VAR not rule that Maguire kick in the baws was not a red card offence? Son got sent off for less earlier in the season. Totally wrong decision. You dont need VAR to get Man U bias! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Nap that maguire would score in this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Another one coming up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 VAR ramming it right up Chelsea tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Why are they still calling it technology some boys in a room looking at a replay and drawing lines on ms paint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghell51 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Refs been poor and we get to listen to the knob neville aswell a dull boring drone going on about offside rule slhould off been linesmen on saturday at tynie lol var is working though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 That first Chelsea goal that got VARed off was like playing billiards. How they don't realise the Chelsea player was pushed first is a mystery. Maguire not judged as violent conduct. Just a friendly kick to the balls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroonjam Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 That was embarrassing I am so glad we don't have it here. As a neutral its the stupid offside by a baw hair decisions that get me. So many this season. Chelseas first goal was hilarious. How that is a foul I do not know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 They should be made to explain the VAR decisions after the game. By they, I mean whoever is sitting miles away, making those decisions. Which part of Maguire kicking out have they not seen? Did they not see the push on the Chelsea player which took him into the United player. Certainly should be an element of doubt over disallowing the goal. But why is the referee not looking at the Maguire incident himself? I have no interest in either team, but they are killing the game down there. Something that people said would take away all the talking points is causing more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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