Pans Jambo Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Its obvious Boris is will be “the chosen one” for the nasty party and will be the UK’s very own ‘Trump’ (or worse) soon. A PM chosen by 130k (ish) tory members. Now theres real democracy in action! Anyway, thought I would kick this off with an employment reference from Boris’s old boss... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 The description sounds like another imbecile across the pond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Deeds Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 It's common to find the words "serial liar" in any article about him and yet he's breezing in. It'll all end in tears, but not his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio Caine Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 I used to think it would take something quite extreme to drive me to vote for independence but guess what! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Qualified slightly by the fact that Max Hastings himself is a total cock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, Victorian said: Qualified slightly by the fact that Max Hastings himself is a total cock. There is that...but sometimes it takes one to know one. It’s hard to tell what Boris actually does believe in as he’s such a chameleon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 1 minute ago, davemclaren said: There is that...but sometimes it takes one to know one. It’s hard to tell what Boris actually does believe in as he’s such a chameleon. Agreed. I tend to think he will have very little regard or interest for the finer details of governance. He'll be surrounded in cabinet by supposed supporters who have declared their support for him for the purpose of obtaining their own positions and nothing more. Privately and quite possibly in cliques they'll profoundly distrust and loathe him. It seems highly unlikely that his chaotic and borderline psychotic character will enable him to manage the considerable work load for very long. Chances are he'll go arse up within 2 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Victorian said: Agreed. I tend to think he will have very little regard or interest for the finer details of governance. He'll be surrounded in cabinet by supposed supporters who have declared their support for him for the purpose of obtaining their own positions and nothing more. Privately and quite possibly in cliques they'll profoundly distrust and loathe him. It seems highly unlikely that his chaotic and borderline psychotic character will enable him to manage the considerable work load for very long. Chances are he'll go arse up within 2 years. He’s always just one or two gaffes away from ruin. He just can’t stop himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, davemclaren said: He’s always just one or two gaffes away from ruin. He just can’t stop himself. Yes but incredibly his tendancy to say ridiculous things is now being justified as him just being open, honest, plain speaking Boris. A virtue. We'll see what he comes out with in the open but it will also be interesting to see what is leaked out of cabinet to the press. Cabinet is about as water tight as a ripped paper bag so his ramblings will come out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muldoon74 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 36 minutes ago, Horatio Caine said: I used to think it would take something quite extreme to drive me to vote for independence but guess what! This is exactly my position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Bojo the clown, in number 10. "I do not think that Boris Johnson is fit to lead anything, much less the United Kingdom." The lesbian couple who were recently subjected to suspected homophobic attack on a bus in London have criticised Boris Johnson for his previous homophobic remarks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Murray Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Why have we got to this situation though? Why have things got so bad, when we have two people who are obviously despised by many, in such positions of power? I understand that BJ has not been voted in as PM by the public, but then as has been stated before, it is not the person we vote for, but the party, and the party picks their leader. Why though, are the much hated 'Tories' still in a position of power, especially after two odd years of the worst PM in living memory, and countless shambolic performances, not least the failure on Brexit? Shouldn't we be trying to address the situation as to why, two such people are in these positions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muldoon74 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, Adam Murray said: Why have we got to this situation though? Why have things got so bad, when we have two people who are obviously despised by many, in such positions of power? I understand that BJ has not been voted in as PM by the public, but then as has been stated before, it is not the person we vote for, but the party, and the party picks their leader. Why though, are the much hated 'Tories' still in a position of power, especially after two odd years of the worst PM in living memory, and countless shambolic performances, not least the failure on Brexit? Shouldn't we be trying to address the situation as to why, two such people are in these positions? I think its a case of the tories being extremely lucky that Labour voted for an even more despised individual for their leader. The thought of bojo as pm gives me the shivers, the thought of corbyn as pm with Abbott at his side as home Secretary is even more frightening. Either of these scenarios is, more than enough for me to support independence now, I was a no in ref 1,... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 13 minutes ago, Adam Murray said: Why have we got to this situation though? Why have things got so bad, when we have two people who are obviously despised by many, in such positions of power? I understand that BJ has not been voted in as PM by the public, but then as has been stated before, it is not the person we vote for, but the party, and the party picks their leader. Why though, are the much hated 'Tories' still in a position of power, especially after two odd years of the worst PM in living memory, and countless shambolic performances, not least the failure on Brexit? Shouldn't we be trying to address the situation as to why, two such people are in these positions? Look no further than the right wing media. They have successfully painted the picture of the far right in the Tories being saints and Corbyn as a traitor. Never underestimate the power of the media, they have the money and very clever spin doctors to sell ice to eskimos. Murdoch"s media empire has a vested interest in keeping Corbyn at bay. From day one since Corbyn was elected leader of the Labour party the right wing media have been relentless in their smear campaigns against Corbyn. Then you have had the last to general elections were no party had a overall majority , and what happened , the Tories were helped and were giving the opportunity to govern by the LIBDEMS and today by the DUP. Hopefully by the next election enough people will have woken up and will judge this government not on individuals like Boris and May but by their recorded in government,. UK politics has turned into a fecking game show, just like the USA. Judge this bozo on his past records in his governmental positions i say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 People in high office can say and do as they please now, and still be voted in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Not fit to work in fecking Greggs let alone govern this country . Boris Johnson 'ranted **** the families during 7/7 bombing victims insult' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 I think that Boris did a good job as London mayor and will be a good PM. He at least has a brain in his head capable of making decisions and won’t just wait to see which way the wind is blowing before jumping on the bandwagon like the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Boris Johnson published a poem joking about the 'extermination' of the 'verminous' Scottish people. He fecking hate us, i mean hates us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Diadora Van Basten said: I think that Boris did a good job as London mayor and will be a good PM. He at least has a brain in his head capable of making decisions and won’t just wait to see which way the wind is blowing before jumping on the bandwagon like the others. Post all the good things he done when he was London mayor.?? Says it all that people are happy with a racist, homotopic, Scots hating serial liar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Think Corbyn is a ‘danger to Britain’? Here’s how you’ve been brainwashed THELONDONECONOMIC.COM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, maroonlegions said: Post all the good things he done when he was London mayor.?? Says it all that people are happy with a racist, homotopic, Scots hating serial liar. I think some people just like to label people as a short cut to thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EIEIO Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 25 minutes ago, Diadora Van Basten said: I think that Boris did a good job as London mayor and will be a good PM. He at least has a brain in his head capable of making decisions and won’t just wait to see which way the wind is blowing before jumping on the bandwagon like the others. He saw which way the wind was blowing in Ingerland 're brexit and became a breixteer overnight FFS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, EIEIO said: He saw which way the wind was blowing in Ingerland 're brexit and became a breixteer overnight FFS. I would say the opposite people expected Remain to win the referendum so he was choosing to join the losing side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 21 minutes ago, Diadora Van Basten said: I think some people just like to label people as a short cut to thinking. Well you aint thinking deep enough, do you condone ALL the things he has said about gays and Muslims and the Scots and the families of the 7/7 attacks. Simple yes or no will do, should not be that hard since you are a very deep thinker. This man is dangerous, full of calamities , i would not trust the serial liar with my TV remote never mind the keys to number 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EIEIO Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 24 minutes ago, Diadora Van Basten said: I would say the opposite people expected Remain to win the referendum so he was choosing to join the losing side. Perhaps the reason he chose to back Brexit is if they had lost he would still have positioned himself with the anti-europe majority (within the Tory party at least). This manoeuvre looks like it will be successful as he looks a fair bet to be PM. Given what a horlicks he made of being Foreign Secretary that should be a sobering thought for most people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 In the UK there are usually two people with leading arguments and the one that most people agree with wins. In Sweden people sit round the table everybody gets a say and they work to reach a consensus that incorporates everybody’s views. It is my opinion that Boris could be a good PM, I don’t really care if he said something or other in the past. Martin McGuiness was part of a power sharing arrangement in Northern Ireland and he used to be part of the IRA. It it is also my opinion that Jeremy Corbyn would be a disaster and if Boris doesn’t win then that is the alternative as the other candidates cannot articulate why capitalism is better than socialism. An argument that most people thought ended in 1997 but is now very much back on. Nigel Farage was chased around Edinburgh and threatened by people and you have to ask yourself who is in the wrong Nigel Farage or the people who cannot accept that we live in a democracy with freedom of speech and cannot respect other people’s opinion. I don’t mind people saying Boris would be a bad PM and Corbyn would be a good PM but I would prefer a forward looking debate rather than just silly name calling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 As far to the right as you can get, apparently. Close to Churchillian in his views of ordinary, working class people. Trump in the Whitehouse, Boris in number 10, the World's gone mad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, EIEIO said: Perhaps the reason he chose to back Brexit is if they had lost he would still have positioned himself with the anti-europe majority (within the Tory party at least). This manoeuvre looks like it will be successful as he looks a fair bet to be PM. Given what a horlicks he made of being Foreign Secretary that should be a sobering thought for most people. I have heard this argument and I would imagine it’s something he will need to address in the next few weeks. Sort of reminds me of an old episode of the New Stateman when the TV cameras were first let into the House of Commons and the director decided that Alan B’stard should reply rather than the Labour Party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, martoon said: As far to the right as you can get, apparently. Close to Churchillian in his views of ordinary, working class people. Trump in the Whitehouse, Boris in number 10, the World's gone mad. What could possibly go wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, martoon said: As far to the right as you can get, apparently. Close to Churchillian in his views of ordinary, working class people. Trump in the Whitehouse, Boris in number 10, the World's gone mad. Tanks on George Square, again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: What could possibly go wrong. Aye. Those driven by fear and anxiety are in for a bumper time. 8 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Tanks on George Square, again. Are you volunteering to be the lone protester, Alban. I'm right behind you. About here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 1 minute ago, martoon said: Aye. Those driven by fear and anxiety are in for a bumper time. Are you volunteering to be the lone protester, Alban. I'm right behind you. About here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beni Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 I don't know if this fella is a psychologist, but this is the best summary of Johnson's personality that I've seen. https://mobile.twitter.com/joeheenan/status/1139091544928071680 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Wake up Scotland. That is all I will say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Diadora Van Basten said: In the UK there are usually two people with leading arguments and the one that most people agree with wins. In Sweden people sit round the table everybody gets a say and they work to reach a consensus that incorporates everybody’s views. It is my opinion that Boris could be a good PM, I don’t really care if he said something or other in the past. Martin McGuiness was part of a power sharing arrangement in Northern Ireland and he used to be part of the IRA. It it is also my opinion that Jeremy Corbyn would be a disaster and if Boris doesn’t win then that is the alternative as the other candidates cannot articulate why capitalism is better than socialism. An argument that most people thought ended in 1997 but is now very much back on. Nigel Farage was chased around Edinburgh and threatened by people and you have to ask yourself who is in the wrong Nigel Farage or the people who cannot accept that we live in a democracy with freedom of speech and cannot respect other people’s opinion. I don’t mind people saying Boris would be a bad PM and Corbyn would be a good PM but I would prefer a forward looking debate rather than just silly name calling. You are endorsing a homophobic , racist , this says a lot about you and you aint fooling no one. You talk of Debating , your joking, how can you debate with someone who EVADES questions, refusing to answer them if they are too awkward , or will in essence reveal their true agenda or beliefs for a support of a man whose beliefs DENY others their right to be who they are. You can spin Boris all you want and try and make out he is fit for government but he is not. You speak cheaply of democracy and freedom of speech like a game show host , and at the same time are FULL of bare faced hypocrisy when you support a man who DENIES homosexuals, muslims and mainly poor people their freedoms. You also speak of name calling, well look no further to your serial liar Boris , for its he who is ahead in that game. Edited June 16, 2019 by maroonlegions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 21 minutes ago, fancy a brew said: I don't know if this fella is a psychologist, but this is the best summary of Johnson's personality that I've seen. https://mobile.twitter.com/joeheenan/status/1139091544928071680 Bang on. Watch the right wing media ignore or play it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EIEIO Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Diadora Van Basten said: I have heard this argument and I would imagine it’s something he will need to address in the next few weeks. Sort of reminds me of an old episode of the New Stateman when the TV cameras were first let into the House of Commons and the director decided that Alan B’stard should reply rather than the Labour Party. His only ambition was/ is to be Tory Prime Minister by hook or by crook (Given some of his pals quite likely). He will change stance in the blink of an eye for popularity in the Tory party. For the Poundland version see our own Ruth Davidson. As for the reference to 30 year old tv comedies the series is long forgotten never mind individual episodes. Edited June 16, 2019 by EIEIO Spelling mistake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 (edited) This clown is fulling the case for independence, keep saying it but Tory clowns like him will contribute to any yes vote in a indyref 2. They are taking us for granted, so be it. Edited June 16, 2019 by maroonlegions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE16 3LN Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 He is a liar, a cheat and a bigot. He's bereft of ethics and morality ad happy to wage war against the weak in society. What a ***** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Diadora Van Basten said: In the UK there are usually two people with leading arguments and the one that most people agree with wins. In Sweden people sit round the table everybody gets a say and they work to reach a consensus that incorporates everybody’s views. It is my opinion that Boris could be a good PM, I don’t really care if he said something or other in the past. Martin McGuiness was part of a power sharing arrangement in Northern Ireland and he used to be part of the IRA. It it is also my opinion that Jeremy Corbyn would be a disaster and if Boris doesn’t win then that is the alternative as the other candidates cannot articulate why capitalism is better than socialism. An argument that most people thought ended in 1997 but is now very much back on. Nigel Farage was chased around Edinburgh and threatened by people and you have to ask yourself who is in the wrong Nigel Farage or the people who cannot accept that we live in a democracy with freedom of speech and cannot respect other people’s opinion. I don’t mind people saying Boris would be a bad PM and Corbyn would be a good PM but I would prefer a forward looking debate rather than just silly name calling. Based on what? Let's look at Boris's Mayorship. Homelessness, Heathrow(When's he resigning)Police numbers, House building (Affordability), oh and when is he testing the water cannons on himself, again. Oh right! He sold them off , at a loss of £300, 000. I'm sure there's more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Just now, ri Alban said: Based on what? Let's look at Boris's Mayorship. Homelessness, Heathrow(When's he resigning)Police numbers, House building (Affordability), oh and when is he testing the water cannons on himself, again. Oh right! He sold them off , at a loss of £300, 000. I'm sure there's more. Bang on. I am getting more and more convinced he is either a troll or has his head so far up Boris"s sun dont shine that he cant see the light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, maroonlegions said: his head so far up Boris"s sun dont shine that he cant see the light. Also known as toenails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH11_2NL Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAxA-9D4X3o This all you need to watch. Bojo is probably the most dangerous man in UK politics for a long time. Eddie Mair was magnificent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 What's with Boris's scruffy look. His hair is shocking, at least DT has an excuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted June 16, 2019 Author Share Posted June 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Diadora Van Basten said: I think that Boris did a good job as London mayor and will be a good PM. He at least has a brain in his head capable of making decisions and won’t just wait to see which way the wind is blowing before jumping on the bandwagon like the others. You must earn a lot more than 50k P/A I’m thinking. Or maybe youre Ruth Davidson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Mind when Boris said it was wrong for parties to change PM, without all of us having a say.(Gordon Brown). Not now, Boris has a mandate, if he wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 I take it, Boris, Andrew Neil and Toby Young are best buds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden Gorgie Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Welcome to the Republic of Scotland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 ^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 8 hours ago, The Real Maroonblood said: The description sounds like another imbecile across the pond. Reported Personal abuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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