luckyBatistuta Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Lemongrab said: That's Prozac. I had to google why they were giving it to horses. American horse racing is rife with it. They’re pumping drugs in to race horses as young as 2 years old, no wonder the death toll within their sport is so high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 I'd quite like to scran a horse. Anyone tried horse meat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: I'd quite like to scran a horse. Anyone tried horse meat? Me. Its actually fine and tastes just like a reasonably good steak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, Morgan said: Me. Its actually fine and tastes just like a reasonably good steak. You’re eating it in France. In my experience over there, the fekn thing could still have run in The Derby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 19 minutes ago, luckyBatistuta said: You’re eating it in France. In my experience over there, the fekn thing could still have run in The Derby I know what you mean. It was blue and still had a pulse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 18 minutes ago, Morgan said: I know what you mean. It was blue and still had a pulse. Don’t mind a bit blood, but some of the stuff we’ve been served? If the thing was still alive, it would soon drown in the large pool of blood it was swimming in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted June 25, 2019 Author Share Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) Started this thread the day after an enjoyable and rare if not unique profitable betting day at Santa Anita. I enjoy a few days a year at the races, jumps as well as flat like Santa Anita. I refuse to feel guilty about that. As said in the OP there is something disproportionate about the coverage of the deaths of a few horses. The LA Times has had numerous front page reports and much analysis of the 29 (as of this weekend 30) horses killed at Santa Anita in 7 months when many many more Angelenos have been murdered in the same period. (It is worth noting that there are three or four meetings every week during the Santa Anita season).Most of thevictims of American gun culture "didn't ask for it" either. The discovery of the dead bodies of a young mother and three toddlers yesterday near the Mexican border got one sentence on the Times front page. The threat to ban racing seems to me disproportionate. Yes, use of drugs, over-racing, track conditions, trainer and jockey behaviour (a leading trainer was banned in California last week) and medical supervision should all be reviewed and reforms made. But horses will always die even if not participating in competitive sport. Of course they "don't ask to do it" but then no-one is asking them whether it should be banned either. If banned, thoroughbreds would cease to exist - the idea that they would survive as "show horses" or "pets" (!) is ludicrous. If I believed in reincarnation I can't think of many animals' lives I would prefer to being a racehorse. Edited June 25, 2019 by Francis Albert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Francis Albert said: Started this thread the day after an enjoyable and rare if not unique profitable betting day at Santa Anita. I enjoy a few days a year at the races, jumps as well as flat like Santa Anita. I refuse to feel guilty about that. As said in the OP there is something disproportionate about the coverage of the deaths of a few horses. The LA Times has had numerous front page reports and much analysis of the 29 (as of this weekend 30) horses killed at Santa Anita in 7 months when many many more Angelenos have been murdered in the same period. (It is worth noting that there are three or four meetings every week during the Santa Anita season).Most of thevictims of American gun culture "didn't ask for it" either. The discovery of the dead bodies of a young mother and three toddlers yesterday near the Mexican border got one sentence on the Times front page. The threat to ban racing seems to me disproportionate. Yes, use of drugs, over-racing, track conditions, trainer and jockey behaviour (a leading trainer was banned in California last week) and medical supervision should all be reviewed and reforms made. But horses will always die even if not participating in competitive sport. Of course they "don't ask to do it" but then no-one is asking them whether it should be banned either. If banned, thoroughbreds would cease to exist - the idea that they would survive as "show horses" or "pets" (!) is ludicrous. If I believed in reincarnation I can't think of many animals' lives I would prefer to being a racehorse. Most of these race horses are well cared for, apart from when they pump them full of drugs. Like yourself, I don’t want to see horse racing banned, but they do need to address certain glaring issues in the sport, especially in the U.S.A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Jump racing should be banned. Flat racing not so much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 20 minutes ago, Spellczech said: Jump racing should be banned. Flat racing not so much Just ban flat racing a bit, aye? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Sooperstar said: Just ban flat racing a bit, aye? Just make them safe(as possible) that's all. Edited June 27, 2019 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 On 26/06/2019 at 02:08, luckyBatistuta said: Most of these race horses are well cared for, apart from when they pump them full of drugs. Like yourself, I don’t want to see horse racing banned, but they do need to address certain glaring issues in the sport, especially in the U.S.A Greyhounds are treated appallingly. Shameful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 10 hours ago, ri Alban said: Greyhounds are treated appallingly. Shameful! I know absolutely nothing about greyhound racing bud, but I can believe that, as I wouldn’t imagine there is anywhere near the amount of money floating around there, as there is in horse racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmiyaHearts Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Of course it should be banned. A terribly cruel thing to do an animal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey J J Jr Shabadoo Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, OmiyaHearts said: Of course it should be banned. A terribly cruel thing to do an animal. Animals get injured or killed, just to satisfy gambling addicts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJambo Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Can we just delete this thread? We don't want to be banning horse racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Got a tip for tonight if anyone wants it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irufushi Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Joey J J Jr Shabadoo said: Animals get injured or killed, just to satisfy gambling addicts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 2 hours ago, luckyBatistuta said: I know absolutely nothing about greyhound racing bud, but I can believe that, as I wouldn’t imagine there is anywhere near the amount of money floating around there, as there is in horse racing. They just bin them, after their use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, ri Alban said: They just bin them, after their use. That’s disgusting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNox Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 On 15/06/2019 at 13:43, Maple Leaf said: Seems absurd, right? I agree, but the good news is that things are changing. People generally are becoming more aware of animal cruelty. For example, In the last week, Canada has banned companies from exploiting seals, dolphins, and orcas for so-called entertainment purposes. And circuses in many countries are phasing out the use of elephants and big cats. That's mainly because it's becoming harder to find any Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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