vegas-voss Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Craig_ said: Velicka? Aye he got 10 Just checked since 05/06 season we have only had one striker score over 10 except for Zeefuik who was lower league. Rudi has been our top league scorer 3 times and the most with 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Just now, indianajones said: Embarrassing. Sounding like a broken record but the manager, backroom staff (every single scout) needs emptied. Complete and utter joke of a club with signings recently. Good job you aren't over reacting then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Just now, Olly Lee's left boot said: Appraisal by the fans ???? Poor signing leaves club. Shocker. Go and check how many players have left clubs, it's part and parcel of the game. Some work out, some don't. The reasons for letting a player go by mutual consent is obvious. We don't want him, he doesn't want to be here. No explanation needed, "mutual consent" covers all you and I need to know. Go and email the club or write a letter if you want an explanation, doubt they will risk breaking the law though and indulge you on why a contract of employment was terminated with one of it's employees. Appraisal by the fans is exactly what goes on here time and time again. We have loads of threads after every match either singing the praises or slaughtering players of course you never comment on any of them do you!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodami Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Just now, Mr Elwood P said: Perhaps didn’t realise how lacking in match sharpness he was until he saw him in a match. Then wanted to get him match fit. Then gave up with him or they’ve fallen out. It does rather look like the latter, the vests the players wear would give our medical staff data assessing fitness and likelihood of injury so the conditioning excuse seems pretty risible. I actually think they just don't think he was up to it but that seems odd when he had scored goals in a team who were toiling in the first half of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Ah well never worked out and he's now gone so we move on ! Not going to beat up the club or Craig levein over a player being unprofessional Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Juanma only striker over 10 league goals with 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerjambo Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 18 minutes ago, SpruceBringsteen said: Shite player stays for 3 years, this place greets. Shite player gets punted tout suite, this place greets. Few of you could do with having a day off tbh. Maybe it's because shite player and Hearts recruitment are common place likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 1 minute ago, busby1985 said: Rangers signed Umar Sadiq and from the very first training session every Rangers player knew he wasn’t going to fit in or make it. Your first biggest challenge at a new club is making a positive impression with your new team mates. If you fail to make a impact with your team mates then you’ll always struggle. That’s what it come down to with Vanecek, IMO. His touch, his finishing, his passing all miles off it according to what I heard from players and coaches (Paul Gallagher, Jamie Brandon). That’s what killed him here. Managements first day back today and all ready getting things rolling in a positive way. Either way you look at the Vanecek situation at least the club have acted quickly and got him out the door. Having players like him, Sammon, Martin etc round the club mustve been doom and gloom for the players. Fresh start. Creating a bit of space for new acquisitions. I think Brandon or Godinho will be moved on. Also think one of Edwards, Bozanic or Lee May leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Just now, Notts1874 said: Good job you aren't over reacting then. Sorry for being a realist but the truth hurts. Recruitment on the most part has been utter dugshite for years now and its unacceptable. Do you think nobody should be accountable for this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, vegas-voss said: Juanma only striker over 10 league goals with 12 Naismith & Lafferty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Just now, indianajones said: Sorry for being a realist but the truth hurts. Recruitment on the most part has been utter dugshite for years now and its unacceptable. Do you think nobody should be accountable for this? So you are going to empty everybody? Get a grip man. Shit happens..........move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Just now, Mr Elwood P said: Creating a bit of space for new acquisitions. I think Brandon or Godinho will be moved on. Also think one of Edwards, Bozanic or Lee May leave. I agree. I’d keep Edwards and Lee (I think in a more balanced team/shape he has something to offer) the rest I wouldn’t be fussed about leaving. Not bad players just think we need a much smaller squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dannie Boy said: Appraisal by the fans is exactly what goes on here time and time again. We have loads of threads after every match either singing the praises or slaughtering players of course you never comment on any of them do you!? My opinion means **** all and need no explanation from the club, especially in a mutual consent case. He left, because he wanted to. We let him leave. You can sleep easy now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sac Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Another scattergun approach signing that didn’t work. Shouldn’t have happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_HMFC Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 They need to come out and tell the truth about this because it can't be anything to do with fitness ffs, he's had 6 months to get in shape. He's simply not good enough, and whoever scouted him is also not good enough. Shite signings are a reoccurring theme post admin, so something has to change in the scouting department; maybe go and watch the players in a few matches before making any decision!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: Naismith & Lafferty? Both got 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Just now, Olly Lee's left boot said: My opinion means **** all and need no explanation from the club, especially in a mutual consent case. He left, because he wanted to. We let him leave. You can sleep easy now. Rarely have a problem sleeping. If you are a supporter then your opinion means a lot to the club. As it should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 1 minute ago, vegas-voss said: Both got 10 Lafferty not get 13 league goals, 19 in total? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: “I want to score the most goals in the Scottish league, and help Hearts win a trophy as well,” he stated. Again, you don’t seem to know the difference between “want to” and “definitely will”. Give it up mate. Posting the same quotes again and again in the vain hope someone is going to agree with your bizarre view isn’t going to get you anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 I heard that Moyes wouldn't sign until DV was forced out the club by big bad CL. Expect Moyes to sign soon now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: Lafferty not get 13 league goals, 19 in total? My info must be off then I went with transfermarkt stats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpruceBringsteen Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, innerjambo said: Maybe it's because shite player and Hearts recruitment are common place likely. OH NO, THE 212th BIGGEST TEAM IN THE WORLD DOESN'T HIT A HOME ****ING RUN EVERY SINGLE TIME Edited June 17, 2019 by SpruceBringsteen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOak88 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 On 12/06/2019 at 17:15, dazajmbo said: Vanecek isn't leaving. He is in good shape. Your contacts confirmed that aye? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mundaydog Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 The games he did play in, the game past him by. Odd good touch but just looked like Scottish football was a culture shock to him. The game against Dundee he looked lost and then just couldn't deal with opponents bearing down on him so limiting his time in possession. I have to agree with an earlier poster, confidence appeared to take a battering, rumours of struggling or lack of interest in learning English plus new country, pregnant partner (didn't she go home to have baby?) I just don't think he settled. But he could have kept collecting wages for doing nothing, Hearts have acted, moved him on. Martin away, Sammon away (end of contact) now Vanecek. I still think we will see more leaving than coming in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midloth_Iain Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Lets see where he ends up and how many goals he bags for his new club, comparitive to the level of said league. If fit of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old school tie Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 The manager should have a quiet word with the DoF regarding all the shite he keeps signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Tommy Brown said: The Musemic header The Eskilsson miss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodami Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 13 minutes ago, busby1985 said: Rangers signed Umar Sadiq and from the very first training session every Rangers player knew he wasn’t going to fit in or make it. Your first biggest challenge at a new club is making a positive impression with your new team mates. If you fail to make a impact with your team mates then you’ll always struggle. That’s what it come down to with Vanecek, IMO. His touch, his finishing, his passing all miles off it according to what I heard from players and coaches (Paul Gallagher, Jamie Brandon). That’s what killed him here. Managements first day back today and all ready getting things rolling in a positive way. Either way you look at the Vanecek situation at least the club have acted quickly and got him out the door. Having players like him, Sammon, Martin etc round the club mustve been doom and gloom for the players. Fresh start. This sounds by far the most plausible explanation mate. Do you think we need to look at our recruitment strategy in general? I would happily sign no one and give younger players more opportunity this season rather than bring in players who are not the required quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamborg Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 On 12/06/2019 at 17:15, dazajmbo said: Vanecek isn't leaving. He is in good shape. aye ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfhearts Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Aye he is not leaving I last read on here and I can't say much else for obvious reasons.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, graygo said: The Eskilsson miss. That the one where the crowd put him off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 18 minutes ago, indianajones said: Embarrassing. Sounding like a broken record but the manager, backroom staff (every single scout) needs emptied. Complete and utter joke of a club with signings recently. Who’ll be the next 3 year contract dud? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, TheOak88 said: Your contacts confirmed that aye? 5 days can be a fair amount of time in football, anything could have happened in that time! 5 days ago Vanacek might not have been willing to leave but since then tiplice could have said they'll take him back or we might have been willing to give him another chance but he's had a fitness test in those 5 days that has shown he's not done the work required/asked of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 This episode does not reflect well on our Manager, scouting staff and the player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauld Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Wasn't impressed by his YouTube videos but as always I waited to see him in a hearts shirt. He looked like he might be able to finish but aside from that I saw nothing to suggest he was an actual player. Turns out ability was the least of his problems as his attitude appears to be what ended him before he could even properly start. Shit happens. We would have been better off keeping Sammon as an option. With that said we move on to the next one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inch Hearts Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 1 hour ago, gorgieheart said: Cue the p*ssin and moaning about recruitment, etc etc etc ! CL's fault for outing him as an imposter ! Correct. Let’s say nothing at all about another complete disaster of a signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenNaismith Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Knew this was gonna happen months ago, once Craig loses trust in you there’s usually no way back. Now that he’s gone it’s easier to say that his behaviour as a professional football player was diabolical. Good riddance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zico Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 This decades Musemic/Eskillson/Makela. Sounds like he has a poor attitude so glad we’re shot of him. *Insert shorts-related joke here* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gedster Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Shit recruitment regularly leads to crap players and we've been blessed with some horseshit over the last three years. Complete review of our recruitment policy is needed as a starting point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jodami said: This sounds by far the most plausible explanation mate. Do you think we need to look at our recruitment strategy in general? I would happily sign no one and give younger players more opportunity this season rather than bring in players who are not the required quality. I think we have had some shockers, but that’s not unique to us. I do however think smaller clubs, Motherwell for example have better recruitment than us but you have to balance that out with the fact that it’s less pressure to play for Motherwell. I don’t like the YouTube scout thing we use, I prefer the old fashioned way of watching etc. I also think we have struggled because we don’t have a clear plan and style etc. Started last season in the cup with Haring in the back 3, he ended the season our best midfielder. That can’t help. It annoyed me that we solved the left back problem with Hickey on the last game of the season considering Hickey had been there all season long. Same thing with Edwards as well. Hopefully with strategic recruitment and a smaller squad we will see better results this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerjambo Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, SpruceBringsteen said: OH NO, THE 212th BIGGEST TEAM IN THE WORLD DOESN'T HIT A HOME ****ING RUN EVERY SINGLE TIME Superb response dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodami Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Just now, busby1985 said: I think we have had some shockers, but that’s not unique to us. I do however think smaller clubs, Motherwell for example have better recruitment than us but you have to balance that out with the fact that it’s less pressure to play for Motherwell. I don’t like the YouTube scout thing we use, I prefer the old fashioned way of watching etc. I also think we have struggled because we don’t have a clear plan and style etc. Started last season in the cup with Haring in the back 3, he ended the season our best midfielder. That can’t help. It annoyed me that we solved the left back problem with Hickey on the last game of the season considering Hickey had been there all season long. Same thing with Edwards as well. Hopefully with strategic recruitment and a smaller squad we will see better results this season. I agree, signing a lot of players rarely works and you never really know where you are. Players we've signed as longer term prospects like Mulraney, Clare and Wighton need to play in order to see if they will fulfil the promise identified in them and younger players like Hickey, Irving, Macdonald, Cochrane and Morrison could definitely do comparable jobs to journeymen like Lee, Bozanic and Edwards. You are never going to know how good they can be unless you play them and it also helps shape future contract thinking as well. If a player of known quality is available and affordable then fine, if not no more gambles please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 (edited) Player wants to do well at new club = bigging himself up ??? Mental. I hope our next signing says he wants to score no goals and that his game style isn't suited to our league or team. What a weird and shambolic episode. Hope he finds himself a club and continues his career and hopefully we learn a lesson about due diligence Edited June 17, 2019 by Taffin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portable Badger Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jodami said: That's the dichotomy right there, not good enough to get near our squad in an injury crisis but scored goals in a league of comparative or maybe even greater quality. Which suggests to me it was more DV's attitude, application and relationships with CL & staff. I'm not convinced he was a huddy - maybe a stubborn lazy shite. Maybe didn't like the style of play he's was being asked to perform. All in all we'll never know as there'll be the usual confidentiality clauses on both sides. Time for us all to move on and slag the crap out the next poor ******* that comes along !!! Edited June 17, 2019 by Gilbert’s Fridge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inch Hearts Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Taffin said: Player wants to do well at new club = bugging himself up ??? Mental. What a weird and shambolic episode. Hope he finds himself a club and continues his career and hopefully we learn a lesson about due diligence Exactly, what was wrong with anything he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neon Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Inch Hearts said: Exactly, what was wrong with anything he said. Prove it before you say it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swanny17 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 I think it’s clear that something happened behind the scenes which has resulted in this parting of ways. I don’t know why, but I’m convinced there’s a decent player in there but we’ll never find out which is for the best for all concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lsimp77 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 He was finished as soon as he missed from 3 yards out against Hamilton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hisnameis Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 (edited) Something not right with this. He has played at a decent level in the Czech Republic for years then suddenly comes to us and becomes a waster. We will probably never know. Another failed transfer from abroad but we don’t seem to be learning. Edited June 17, 2019 by hisnameis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Another farce of a signing. At least he had the decency to **** off when he clearly wasn't up to the required standard. Wonder whom replaces him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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