Bo’ness United

[letsalldothebeattie]

Just seen this on Twitter. A massive fire has broken out at their ground today. Seemingly started where they were storing new rolls of AstroTurf which were due to be laid. Sad to see this happen at any ground 

[Selkirkhmfc1874]

That's brutal , hope the football community comes together and raises money needed to rebuild 

[letsalldothebeattie]

6 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said:

That's brutal , hope the football community comes together and raises money needed to rebuild 

Exactly and not just for the rebuild but for new rolls of Astro for the pitch that was lost as well. 

[John Findlay]

Maybe they were insured,

Very sad to see.

[Locky]

Sad to see. Hope this doesn't hit them hard financially.

[letsalldothebeattie]

Just now, Locky said:

Sad to see. Hope this doesn't hit them hard financially.

Looks like it could well hit them hard. Lost new pitch they were soon to lay plus the structure of the building on fire looks quite bad in the video. Hopefully the community and the footballing community can give them some financial help

[Thomaso]

They should be insured for fire.......hopefully!

[letsalldothebeattie]

3 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said:

They should be insured for fire.......hopefully!

You would hope

[BigCGilmour]

Collection tins at the Fair...  not good for grassroots football club.hopfully they'll be insured.

[Homme]

Any cause? Hope it isn't arson. 

[letsalldothebeattie]

40 minutes ago, Homme said:

Any cause? Hope it isn't arson. 

Haven’t seen anything yet. Will probably need to get fire out first before finding the cause

[Fraggle]

43 minutes ago, Homme said:

Any cause? Hope it isn't arson. 

The local jungle drums have been banging already about "kids being seen next to the astro turf" just before the blaze broke out. Pure hear say and just rumour on certain FB pages. Hopefully Boness Utd will be insured, think the building on fire isn't related to the club but still loads of damage to the club's infrastructure. 

[Jocam2325]

The building is Kinneil Colliery band hall. They have already suffered setbacks with the new pitch with mine shafts being discovered during pitch preperations. 

Set them back months and money hence why they are currently sharing with Camelon. 

 

Jungle drums could be right

Edited June 4, 2019 by Jocam2325
mistake

[Footballfirst]

It wasn't the astro that went up in flames, but rolls of the foam based "shockpad" that is used an underlay to the playing surface.

 

Bo'ness put out a statement last night confirming that it was the Kinneil Brass Band that appears to have lost most.  The shockpad material was stored next to their band hall which is the building was went up in flames.

 

Fire at Newtown Park

 

Many of you have seen the distressing images of the fire at Newtown Park this afternoon, and the subsequent blaze at the Kinneil Band hall.

We feel in particular for the guys at Kinneil Band as their hall and equipment has been hit hardest after today's incident.

As there are ongoing police and fire investigations underway at this time we will wait for official updates from the relevant authorities before commenting further on the incident.

Fortunately there was no loss of life of injury to personnel on site or in the hall which was the only piece of good news of an awful afternoon for the Bo'ness community.

We would also like to thank everyone who has taken the time to send us, Kinneil Band and the NPA messages of support. It is greatly appreciated.

[Locky]

Just been told by a colleague who's from Bo'ness that 4 16 year old boys have been arrested in connection with the arson attack.

[EIEIO]

28 minutes ago, Locky said:

Just been told by a colleague who's from Bo'ness that 4 16 year old boys have been arrested in connection with the arson attack.

"Arson" is an English legal term wilful fire raising is the Scots Law term.

Even as a Lithgae Rose man I feel sorry for them and the brass band too.

[mitch41]

If anyone is found guilty of starting this fire they should be charged with the 

total cost of not only the property that they have destroyed but the costs to

Bo'ness United, the Kinneil band,and the emergency services. Why should 

the thousands of pounds it will cost be paid by tax payers, insurance firms, 

Bo'ness Utd. ect.

Make them pay.

 

[smiler]

56 minutes ago, mitch41 said:

If anyone is found guilty of starting this fire they should be charged with the 

total cost of not only the property that they have destroyed but the costs to

Bo'ness United, the Kinneil band,and the emergency services. Why should 

the thousands of pounds it will cost be paid by tax payers, insurance firms, 

Bo'ness Utd. ect.

Make them pay.

 

And as I'm hearing it's four kids still at school that did it, how's your payment theory going to work? 

Edited June 5, 2019 by smiler

[mitch41]

23 minutes ago, smiler said:

And as I'm hearing it's four kids still at school that did it, how's your payment theory going to work? 

Are they 16.  If so they get a job. If under their parent/parents pay.

This should happen to all criminals.

[reaths17]

24 minutes ago, smiler said:

And as I'm hearing it's four kids still at school that did it, how's your payment theory going to work? 

let them head the bo'ness fair procession and everyone can throw rotten food at them

[Jocam2325]

1 hour ago, mitch41 said:

Are they 16.  If so they get a job. If under their parent/parents pay.

This should happen to all criminals.

So a strict liability for parents then. 

 

Unfair and unworkable. You cannot hold parents responsible for the actions of their children. 

They perhaps have a lot to answer for the way they are brought up but they are not liable for their every action in life. 

[Fraggle]

1 hour ago, reaths17 said:

let them head the bo'ness fair procession and everyone can throw rotten food at them

And make them sing "The Bo'ness Fair is just a Gala Day, just Gala Day, just a Gala Day ...... 

[mitch41]

18 minutes ago, Jocam2325 said:

So a strict liability for parents then. 

 

Unfair and unworkable. You cannot hold parents responsible for the actions of their children. 

They perhaps have a lot to answer for the way they are brought up but they are not liable for their every action in life. 

That is where we disagree.

[tian447]

1 hour ago, Jocam2325 said:

So a strict liability for parents then. 

 

Unfair and unworkable. You cannot hold parents responsible for the actions of their children. 

They perhaps have a lot to answer for the way they are brought up but they are not liable for their every action in life. 

 

Someone has to be held accountable. If we're still at the point where 16 year old laddies aren't deemed mature enough to be charged as adults, then it must fall on the parents.   

 

Until it's confirmed who did it, speculation is pointless though! 

[reaths17]

5 minutes ago, tian447 said:

 

Someone has to be held accountable. If we're still at the point where 16 year old laddies aren't deemed mature enough to be charged as adults, then it must fall on the parents.   

 

Until it's confirmed who did it, speculation is pointless though! 

old/mature enough to vote in this country, surely they must be accountable, to the law makers they've been allowed to vote for

Edited June 5, 2019 by reaths17

[mitch41]

Old enough to leave school, old enough to vote, old enough to get married, old enough to get what is deserved.

[Effervesance]

7 hours ago, mitch41 said:

If anyone is found guilty of starting this fire they should be charged with the 

total cost of not only the property that they have destroyed but the costs to

Bo'ness United, the Kinneil band,and the emergency services. Why should 

the thousands of pounds it will cost be paid by tax payers, insurance firms, 

Bo'ness Utd. ect.

Make them pay.

 

 

6 hours ago, smiler said:

And as I'm hearing it's four kids still at school that did it, how's your payment theory going to work? 

 

The courts would never order it but it's an idea I've long thought of as a more appropriate punishment.

 

The repayment should work on the same principle of payback as student loans. Take a note of their NI numbers and make deductions from their wages until the amount is repaid. Even if it takes them until they're 50.

[mitch41]

5 minutes ago, Effervesance said:

 

 

The courts would never order it but it's an idea I've long thought of as a more appropriate punishment.

 

The repayment should work on the same principle of payback as student loans. Take a note of their NI numbers and make deductions from their wages until the amount is repaid. Even if it takes them until they're 50.

If teenagers knew they would be dealt in a way that the punishment fits the crime our society 

would benefit because a smack on the knuckles just has them laughing in everyone’s face.

I know what works with teenagers having had more experience than most.

[Stephane Grappelli]

11 hours ago, Locky said:

Just been told by a colleague who's from Bo'ness that 4 16 year old boys have been arrested in connection with the arson attack.

 

Only a year old but there was 416 of them?  

[Jambof3tornado]

56 minutes ago, Effervesance said:

 

 

The courts would never order it but it's an idea I've long thought of as a more appropriate punishment.

 

The repayment should work on the same principle of payback as student loans. Take a note of their NI numbers and make deductions from their wages until the amount is repaid. Even if it takes them until they're 50.

Said the same when little *******s set alight a shed behind Plean primary school which spread to the main building gutting it.

 

Make them pay as much as they can throughout their working lives.

 

No lessons learned otherwise.

[Smack]

9 hours ago, Fraggle said:

And make them sing "The Bo'ness Fair is just a Gala Day, just Gala Day, just a Gala Day ...... 

Why is it on a Friday? Thoughts and prayers etc. 

[Fraggle]

6 hours ago, Smack said:

Why is it on a Friday? Thoughts and prayers etc. 

??

[Thumper]

On 05/06/2019 at 15:43, reaths17 said:

let them head the bo'ness fair procession and everyone can throw rotten food at them

 

On 05/06/2019 at 17:13, Fraggle said:

And make them sing "The Bo'ness Fair is just a Gala Day, just Gala Day, just a Gala Day ...... 

 

On 06/06/2019 at 02:22, Smack said:

Why is it on a Friday? Thoughts and prayers etc. 

 

What on Earth is the Marches all about?

[Fraggle]

43 minutes ago, Thumper said:

 

 

 

What on Earth is the Marches all about?

?

[Thumper]

On 09/06/2019 at 19:58, Fraggle said:

?

 

Still no closer to finding out!

[Fraggle]

10 minutes ago, Thumper said:

 

Still no closer to finding out!

 

http://www.linlithgowmarches.org/

[jamboiain13]

On 05/06/2019 at 15:18, smiler said:

And as I'm hearing it's four kids still at school that did it, how's your payment theory going to work? 

Deferred payment like a student loan and start taking percentage of their wages / dole money until the money is fully repaid...or, how about this for a novel idea?  Start by taking 10% off their parents and siblings wages until they can have it taken from their own income?  That is surely worth a try, no?

 

[TyphoonJambo]

1 minute ago, jamboiain13 said:

Deferred payment like a student loan and start taking percentage of their wages / dole money until the money is fully repaid...or, how about this for a novel idea?  Start by taking 10% off their parents and siblings wages until they can have it taken from their own income?  That is surely worth a try, no?

 

Whilst also birching the little bastatds, and no, that wasn't a joke. Too many kids doing shit like this whilst knowing nout will happen to them. Broken Britain. 

[Byyy The Light]

4 minutes ago, TypoonJambo said:

Whilst also birching the little bastatds, and no, that wasn't a joke. Too many kids doing shit like this whilst knowing nout will happen to them. Broken Britain. 

 

Doesn’t work due to subtlety of the law. They should get a good slap off their dad/uncle/neighbours though. That used to do the trick but that’s fecked as well.

[Smack]

2 hours ago, Thumper said:

 

Still no closer to finding out!

The Marches are where the good people of the town historically patrolled the boundaries, chiefly the Bo'ness one, to guard against encroachment.

 

To confuse those of a Borrowstouness persuasion the logical decision was taken to hold them on the first Tuesday after the second Thursday of each June. It's fair to say that the process has kept them at bay, hence the lack of wilful fire raising in the Royal Burgh.

 

Reeling from this Linlithgow success, the citizens of Bo'ness decided to have a Gala Day on a Friday. Linlithgow also has a Gala Day, but on a Saturday. 

 

Edited July 7, 2019 by Smack

[Thumper]

3 hours ago, Fraggle said:

 

http://www.linlithgowmarches.org/

 

1 hour ago, Smack said:

The Marches are where the good people of the town historically patrolled the boundaries, chiefly the Bo'ness one, to guard against encroachment.

 

To confuse those of a Borrowstouness persuasion the logical decision was taken to hold them on the first Tuesday after the second Thursday of each June. It's fair to say that the process has kept them at bay, hence the lack of wilful fire raising in the Royal Burgh.

 

Reeling from this Linlithgow success, the citizens of Bo'ness decided to have a Gala Day on a Friday. Linlithgow also has a Gala Day, but on a Saturday. 

 

 

Cheers lads.

 

A Saturday seems an eminently more sensible day to hold a Gala.  Are the Bo'nessers ****ing thick or something?

[Ronald Villiers]

Why, a Friday off work or school for a good piss up is a great idea for what has been confirmed as Europe's second biggest children's fair.  Also, despite what some people think, Bo'ness natives are called Bo'nessians, not Bo'nessers!  Just saying!  Saturday's are for watching football, not for gala days (Fair days).  

[Blacky87]

Got a bit of an exception here gents. I am from the linlithgow and bo'ness area. My boys are local lads and massive Jambos. 

How do I explain this one?? They're entitled to be Jambos as long as kick back says so???

[Dallas Green]

14 hours ago, Smack said:

The Marches are where the good people of the town historically patrolled the boundaries, chiefly the Bo'ness one, to guard against encroachment.

 

To confuse those of a Borrowstouness persuasion the logical decision was taken to hold them on the first Tuesday after the second Thursday of each June. It's fair to say that the process has kept them at bay, hence the lack of wilful fire raising in the Royal Burgh.

 

Reeling from this Linlithgow success, the citizens of Bo'ness decided to have a Gala Day on a Friday. Linlithgow also has a Gala Day, but on a Saturday. 

 

 

Nothing beats a Bathgate Galaday though.