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Artful Dodger

 

 

1 hour ago, Jambof3tornado said:

There are squad players and then there is money wasted on those who were never going to make it. Can you not accept the difference?

 

So you're suggesting players are bought in and are never going to make it?

 

 

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Bongo 1874
46 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said:

 

Best keep your pants on when you're digging.

???

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Bongo 1874
58 minutes ago, johnthomas said:

Just because I think you're talking shite doesn't mean I'm being personal . Does it ?

Ok have a nice day lad?

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Absolute Scenes
52 minutes ago, Leveins Battalion said:

Welcome Josh and Chris ?

 

Chris who?? ?

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JamboAl
1 hour ago, Jambof3tornado said:

Few people now mentioning vanecek, how can we as a club have got it so wrong if he is as bad as players are saying?

 

Is there a link in martin, juwon amd vanecek, perhaps in that the same person brought them all to our attention or have we just been unlucky??

 

Has to be something badly amiss given the money involved.

It happens at every club as you well know.  Mourinho brought in Pogba £89m and Sanchez (valued at £65m) and they were well short of being successes.

Rangers have 2 players ready to move on who cost fees who were a waste of transfer fees

Celtic spent £1m on Marin Compper to sit on his rear end.

Every club wastes money because you do not know if any new signing is going to work out.

 

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Jambof3tornado
16 minutes ago, Artful Dodger said:

 

 

 

So you're suggesting players are bought in and are never going to make it?

 

 

Not suggesting it, its bloody happened several times post admin!!

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Artful Dodger

 

 

3 minutes ago, Jambof3tornado said:

Not suggesting it, its bloody happened several times post admin!!

 

Ah, so it's been a plan to get rubbish player's in and to pay them for doing nothing, all post admin of course.

 

I understand now.

 

Howling at the moon.

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Artful Dodger
12 minutes ago, JamboAl said:

It happens at every club as you well know.  Mourinho brought in Pogba £89m and Sanchez (valued at £65m) and they were well short of being successes.

Rangers have 2 players ready to move on who cost fees who were a waste of transfer fees

Celtic spent £1m on Marin Compper to sit on his rear end.

Every club wastes money because you do not know if any new signing is going to work out.

 

 

Nonsense, only happens at Hearts, only happened post admin as well. 

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Jodami
1 hour ago, Mr Elwood P said:

 

You don't know if a player is definitely going to make it until they've played a number of games for the club. Expectations for Oshiniwa were sky high and he was a major flop.  A number of posters didn't rate Bjorn Johnson and he's subsequently earned a €3m move to AZ Alkmaar. 

More importantly a certain Mr Cathro didn't rate Johnsen. 

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johnthomas
58 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said:

Ok have a nice day lad?

I am , but you have a nice one too 

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Bongo 1874
Just now, johnthomas said:

I am , but you have a nice one too 

Will do cheers ? ?

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Jammy T
Posted (edited)

Chris....???

 

Trying to think of quality game changers called Chris.....

Edited by Jammy T

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Jammy T

I cant even think of any footballers called Chris

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Olly Lee's left boot
2 hours ago, Mr Elwood P said:

 

Summer 2017 we signed Lafferty, Berra, McLaughlin, Milinkovic and Michael Smith. Hardly a bad window. We then added Naismith in January. Not sure why folk expect a smaller club like Hearts to do so well in the transfer market when huge teams make such a mess of it?

 

When huge teams do it, it's Craigs fault as well. 

Couthino(sp) at Barca - his fault. 

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Selkirkhmfc1874
9 minutes ago, Jammy T said:

Chris....???

 

Trying to think of quality game changers called Chris.....

Chris Hamilton ?

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pharmaceutical01

Cadden ??

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dazajmbo

Chris Cadden.

 

But that poster has already shot Notts down saying that Josh Macgennis isn't happening.

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Icon of Symmetry
Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Jodami said:

More importantly a certain Mr Cathro didn't rate Johnsen. 

 

 Neither did many of the geniuses in our support.

 

 

Edited by Icon of Symmetry

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Pagey
1 hour ago, Jammy T said:

Chris....???

 

Trying to think of quality game changers called Chris.....

 

Chris Cross the winger? 

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Leveins Battalion
49 minutes ago, dazajmbo said:

Chris Cadden.

 

But that poster has already shot Notts down saying that Josh Macgennis isn't happening.

Is he a McCann signing or Levein?

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TypoonJambo
1 hour ago, Jammy T said:

I cant even think of any footballers called Chris

Kammara? 

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jambogemz

Macgennis and Randall??? Looks like a quality transfer window eh!!! ??

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AlphonseCapone

Welcome Tom and Liam ?

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Leveins Battalion
4 minutes ago, AlphonseCapone said:

Welcome Tom and Liam ?

ITK 

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JamboAl
4 hours ago, Jodami said:

More importantly a certain Mr Cathro didn't rate Johnsen. 

Celtic didn't rate Andy Robertson.  He's now got a European Champions medal.  How many current Celtic players have one?

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The Apprentice
5 hours ago, JamboAl said:

It happens at every club as you well know.  Mourinho brought in Pogba £89m and Sanchez (valued at £65m) and they were well short of being successes.

Rangers have 2 players ready to move on who cost fees who were a waste of transfer fees

Celtic spent £1m on Marin Compper to sit on his rear end.

Every club wastes money because you do not know if any new signing is going to work out.

 

Hibs signed 3 players in January (when without a manager I may add. If that happened with us you can guarantee the media would have been all over it like a fly around shite). One of them McNulty which is fair enough but the other two didn’t kick a ball for them. 

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SectionDJambo
6 hours ago, JamboAl said:

We are going to make 4 or 5 new signings I believe.

When they come in, can you tell us which ones are going to make it and which ones we should not have signed.

No.

But then I don’t know who we’re bringing in, how good they are or whether they are likely to enhance the spirit or performance at our club.

Hearts have professional people who are there to assess these things before we lay out our cash resources. Given our previous  results in this area of expertise, we should, and are entitled to, expect better. 

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Jodami
3 hours ago, Icon of Symmetry said:

 

 Neither did many of the geniuses in our support.

 

 

Correct. The issue was that some people seemed to think the forward momentum was going to continue on to a league challenge and when that didn't happen the Neilson abuse got over the top which eventually led to him making a very odd career decision. 

I wonder what would have happened if Cathro had have largely worked with that group of players instead of signing all the players in January. It might have been the best thing for all concerned. 

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JamboAl
49 minutes ago, SectionDJambo said:

No.

But then I don’t know who we’re bringing in, how good they are or whether they are likely to enhance the spirit or performance at our club.

Hearts have professional people who are there to assess these things before we lay out our cash resources. Given our previous  results in this area of expertise, we should, and are entitled to, expect better. 

With your profound knowledge, you can give your forecast on each before they kick a ball for us.  Saves the use of hindsight later.

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Roman1874

Welcome Jack and Victor ? 

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SectionDJambo
39 minutes ago, JamboAl said:

With your profound knowledge, you can give your forecast on each before they kick a ball for us.  Saves the use of hindsight later.

Here was me thinking that I’d already said I am not qualified or paid to make these decisions. What I did say that our club have people who are paid to make these decisions, and they have thrown away a fortune, for our club, in wages, and goodness knows what other expenses, on players who have ended up having single figure appearances for Hearts over 2 or 3 years. Other players brought in have not been up to the standard we should aspire to.

That’s  before the prize money lost for the league position only being 6th, 2 years running, gets taken into account.

I’m not one to knock our club, generally,  but surely not many can think our recruitment over the last 3 or 4 years has been good.

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JamboAl
4 minutes ago, SectionDJambo said:

Here was me thinking that I’d already said I am not qualified or paid to make these decisions. What I did say that our club have people who are paid to make these decisions, and they have thrown away a fortune, for our club, in wages, and goodness knows what other expenses, on players who have ended up having single figure appearances for Hearts over 2 or 3 years. Other players brought in have not been up to the standard we should aspire to.

That’s  before the prize money lost for the league position only being 6th, 2 years running, gets taken into account.

I’m not one to knock our club, generally,  but surely not many can think our recruitment over the last 3 or 4 years has been good.

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You're not paid to moan about it either but you do.

Below is what I posted earlier

 

It happens at every club as you well know.  Mourinho brought in Pogba £89m and Sanchez (valued at £65m) and they were well short of being successes.

Rangers have 2 players ready to move on who cost fees who were a waste of transfer fees

Celtic spent £1m on Marin Compper to sit on his rear end.

Every club wastes money because you do not know if any new signing is going to work out.

 

 

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Taffin
Posted (edited)
On 08/06/2019 at 21:40, Captain Sausage said:

 

So it’s proven that statistically we had the third lowest number of long/hoof balls last season. Yet you refuse to accept that therefore means we aren’t a hoofball team. 

 

Where’s your evidence that we are a hoofball team. Not just ‘ah seen it wif ma own eyes likes’. Actual, verifiable evidence please. 

 

Out of curiosity were those stats referring to passes or attempted passes or both combined? 

 

I read it at the time but can't remember.

 

 

It's also worth pointing out that we were 3rd 'best' in a league with the most long passes in Europe so it's likely to say we could still be considered a long ball team in absolute terms.

Edited by Taffin

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jamboinglasgow

Last summer really spoiled us, by this point last summer we had already signed 8 players (from April till now.) Currently we have 1 signed (2 if you include Aidy White but I have counted him as last seasons signing as he was not a pre-contract but signed in full.) We have 1 we expect to sign in Naismith and thats it.

 

I have become impatient waiting for the next summer signing, and its only been 2 weeks since our last game of the season.

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Debut 4

Ok, we aren’t a long ball team any more than anyone else but we aren’t good at scoring goals or overly great at general play.  

 

Think we’ve got more to worry about and work at. 

 

 

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Olly Lee's left boot
Posted (edited)
19 minutes ago, JamboAl said:

You're not paid to moan about it either but you do.

Below is what I posted earlier

 

It happens at every club as you well know.  Mourinho brought in Pogba £89m and Sanchez (valued at £65m) and they were well short of being successes.

Rangers have 2 players ready to move on who cost fees who were a waste of transfer fees

Celtic spent £1m on Marin Compper to sit on his rear end.

Every club wastes money because you do not know if any new signing is going to work out.

 

 

 

 

Nah, it's just Hearts, and only since CL arrived was manager. 

 

Edited by Olly Lee's left boot

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Olly Lee's left boot
12 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

Out of curiosity were those stats referring to passes or attempted passes or both combined? 

 

I read it at the time but can't remember.

 

 

It's also worth pointing out that we were 3rd 'best' in a league with the most long passes in Europe so it's likely to say we could still be considered a long ball team in absolute terms.

 

 

Most long passes in Europe or selected leagues? 

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Pasquale for King
2 hours ago, The Apprentice said:

Hibs signed 3 players in January (when without a manager I may add. If that happened with us you can guarantee the media would have been all over it like a fly around shite). One of them McNulty which is fair enough but the other two didn’t kick a ball for them. 

Indeed we would’ve been slaughtered for doing that.

I think it was 4, McNulty/Omeonga/Gauld and Bigrimana but only the first two contributed. 

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Pasquale for King
5 hours ago, Pagey said:

 

Chris Cross the winger? 

He’ll make you jump, jump?

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SectionDJambo
48 minutes ago, JamboAl said:

You're not paid to moan about it either but you do.

Below is what I posted earlier

 

It happens at every club as you well know.  Mourinho brought in Pogba £89m and Sanchez (valued at £65m) and they were well short of being successes.

Rangers have 2 players ready to move on who cost fees who were a waste of transfer fees

Celtic spent £1m on Marin Compper to sit on his rear end.

Every club wastes money because you do not know if any new signing is going to work out.

 

 

My last words on this because I’m clearly not being understood here.

I do not usually criticise Hearts. I’ve seen much worse in my time of over 50 years of regularly going to see my team.

I am not one of the people who blindly hate Craig Levein.He was a great player for us and, I think, he has done a great job in creating an environment for young players of good quality to, soon I hope, be of great benefit to us.

I don’t think that we have made the best use of limited resources in recruiting players best suited for the game in Scotland, over the last 3 or 4 seasons. We haven’t just had one or two poor signings, like the clubs quoted, we’ve had loads.

I would like us to improve this to get our club challenging again.

Hearts fans used to complain about the standard of the Lithuanian players brought to our club. Almost all of them were better than some of the dross signed in recent seasons.

If I wanted to moan about my club regularly wasting money on dud players, who don’t get a game for us, whilst getting paid plenty for it, I’d do it. 

As it happens, all I was hoping for was an improvement in a vital part of my club’s operation, which has clearly been expensively poor recently.

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JamboAl
1 hour ago, SectionDJambo said:

My last words on this because I’m clearly not being understood here.

I do not usually criticise Hearts. I’ve seen much worse in my time of over 50 years of regularly going to see my team.

I am not one of the people who blindly hate Craig Levein.He was a great player for us and, I think, he has done a great job in creating an environment for young players of good quality to, soon I hope, be of great benefit to us.

I don’t think that we have made the best use of limited resources in recruiting players best suited for the game in Scotland, over the last 3 or 4 seasons. We haven’t just had one or two poor signings, like the clubs quoted, we’ve had loads.

I would like us to improve this to get our club challenging again.

Hearts fans used to complain about the standard of the Lithuanian players brought to our club. Almost all of them were better than some of the dross signed in recent seasons.

If I wanted to moan about my club regularly wasting money on dud players, who don’t get a game for us, whilst getting paid plenty for it, I’d do it. 

As it happens, all I was hoping for was an improvement in a vital part of my club’s operation, which has clearly been expensively poor recently.

We all want things to improve but we can only have what we can afford and a touch of realism is needed.  No matter how good your recruitment is you will always make mistakes - with hindsight.  Money gives you a better chance but as I have pointed out above, even that gives no degree of certainty.

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ToqueJambo
Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, SectionDJambo said:

My last words on this because I’m clearly not being understood here.

I do not usually criticise Hearts. I’ve seen much worse in my time of over 50 years of regularly going to see my team.

I am not one of the people who blindly hate Craig Levein.He was a great player for us and, I think, he has done a great job in creating an environment for young players of good quality to, soon I hope, be of great benefit to us.

I don’t think that we have made the best use of limited resources in recruiting players best suited for the game in Scotland, over the last 3 or 4 seasons. We haven’t just had one or two poor signings, like the clubs quoted, we’ve had loads.

I would like us to improve this to get our club challenging again.

Hearts fans used to complain about the standard of the Lithuanian players brought to our club. Almost all of them were better than some of the dross signed in recent seasons.

If I wanted to moan about my club regularly wasting money on dud players, who don’t get a game for us, whilst getting paid plenty for it, I’d do it. 

As it happens, all I was hoping for was an improvement in a vital part of my club’s operation, which has clearly been expensively poor recently.

 

Hibs just released 17 players, including Adam Bogdan, Darnell Johnson, Gael Bigirimana, Jonathan Spector, Marc McNulty, Mark Milligan, Marvin Bartley, Miquel Nelom, Ross Laidlaw, Ryan Gauld, Stephane Omeonga, Thomas Agyepong.

 

The ones in bold were all signed in the last season or two, some just in January, and they all fall into the duds category.

 

You could do a similar list for preceding seasons. Lennon's signings were extremely patchy. The big Lithuanian striker for example and several more that completely bombed.

 

I can't be bothered going through Rangers, Celtic and Aberdeen, but the story is similar if you take a look. IT's hard to think of their bad signings because they didn't play and we didn't see them. Killie are the exception. Clarke signed very few and the ones he did were good.

 

Aberdeen , with a settled core, have not had to gamble like us. We're now in the position they were a few years ago where we have a good spine we can build around. Aberdeen will probably have a patchier record in the next couple of seasons as they're losing key players.

Edited by ToqueJambo

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chester copperpot
14 hours ago, Mr Elwood P said:

 

Not in the slightest. Are you attempting to end the debate by using 'end of' or are you asking me two questions? Are the two questions some clever rhetorical joke to troll the poor fella from North Lanarkshire. 

 

 

Hamilton is South Lanarkshire :)

 

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Kiwidoug

Was the speculation about Walker just that or is their some substance to it?

 

I'd like to see him come back providing there's no associated cost.  Not a big gamble at all imo.

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Maroonblood22

I wasn't keen on Magennis at first when mentioned on here but trying to look at it positively he's scoring at international level, he's strong, has pace and can win headers so can see why we would be interested, especially with the NI connections at the club.

 

Having said that, it all depends on the rest of the transfer activity in the summer. If Magennis is the only forward thinking player we sign then it will be a shite transfer window, but hopefully we're looking to bring in more strength and depth all round.

 

On the fence with this one for now but won't pish my knickers if it does happen.

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Taffin
8 hours ago, Olly Lee's left boot said:

 

 

Most long passes in Europe or selected leagues? 

 

I think it was only looking at the top tiers.

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Debut 4
1 hour ago, Kiwidoug said:

Was the speculation about Walker just that or is their some substance to it?

 

I'd like to see him come back providing there's no associated cost.  Not a big gamble at all imo.

He’s had a chat with the powers at be. 

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Leveins Battalion

Welcome Cletus and Bubacarr.?

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MTS1874
49 minutes ago, Leveins Battalion said:

Welcome Cletus and Bubacarr.?

 

 

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Bubacarr Trawally, not itk 

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