jake Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-48339080 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 What’s the conundrum Jake? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutley Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Boris said: What’s the conundrum Jake? It’s the bit at the end of countdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, mutley said: It’s the bit at the end of countdown ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boof Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, mutley said: It’s the bit at the end of countdown Why's it called a conundrum on Countdown when it's really just an anagram? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) I'm a bit torn on the issue tbh. I firmly beleive that kids should be allowed to grow up and work stuff out for themselves. I also firmly beleive that removing the stigma that sourrounded being 'different' that existed when I was a kid is a fantastic thing and long overdue. I can see wher the protestors are coming from, but without an in-depth knowledge of how the message is actually being delivered within the schools and what the rational behind the thinking is I can't really comment. I do think that liberal mindedness and freedom of expression is something that should begin at home. Edited May 20, 2019 by Governor Tarkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) . Edited May 20, 2019 by been here before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Boof said: Why's it called a conundrum on Countdown when it's really just an anagram? Because an anagram is a conundrum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boof Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, been here before said: Because an anagram is a conundrum. I wouldn't have said so. They don't really fit in with any dictionary definition of conundrum that I've read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 22 minutes ago, Boof said: I wouldn't have said so. They don't really fit in with any dictionary definition of conundrum that I've read. Here ye go.... first out the google hat... conundrum /kəˈnʌndrəm/ noun a confusing and difficult problem or question. "one of the most difficult conundrums for the experts" synonyms: problem, difficult question, vexed question, difficulty, quandary, dilemma; More a question asked for amusement, typically one with a pun in its answer; a riddle. synonyms: riddle, puzzle, word game, anagram; More https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&client=ms-android-samsung&source=android-browser&q=conundrum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Conundrum because it's Muslims complaining but you hate LGBT as much as they do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King prawn Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 The guy in a dispute with the MP doesn’t even have children at the school in question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, Cade said: Conundrum because it's Muslims complaining but you hate LGBT as much as they do? Nae conundrum. Leave the kids alone. The LGBT hypocrites like the mooth, wanting to be a lesbian but still wants to be mother but that takes men. You know the people the LGBT mob, hate. Stick to eurofeckingvision and leave parenting to mothers and fathers. It's not about equality or teaching. It's about turning the tables on who they see as the bad guy. This won't stop until everything is destroyed and normality is abnormality. I look forward to death Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Just now, ri Alban said: Nae conundrum. Leave the kids alone. The LGBT hypocrites like the mooth, wanting to be a lesbian but still wants to be mother but that takes men. You know the people the LGBT mob, hate. Stick to eurofeckingvision and leave parenting to mothers and fathers. It's not about equality or teaching. It's about turning the tables on who they see as the bad guy. This won't stop until everything is destroyed and normality is abnormality. I look forward to death seek help please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 In before i8ibsh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King prawn Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Just now, Gashauskis9 said: In before i8ibsh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 1 hour ago, mutley said: It’s the bit at the end of countdown Nope, it's a wee place outside Berwick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boof Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 41 minutes ago, been here before said: Here ye go.... first out the google hat... conundrum /kəˈnʌndrəm/ noun a confusing and difficult problem or question. "one of the most difficult conundrums for the experts" synonyms: problem, difficult question, vexed question, difficulty, quandary, dilemma; More a question asked for amusement, typically one with a pun in its answer; a riddle. synonyms: riddle, puzzle, word game, anagram; More https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&client=ms-android-samsung&source=android-browser&q=conundrum Yep - doesn't fit either of those definitions for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 40 minutes ago, been here before said: Here ye go.... first out the google hat... conundrum /kəˈnʌndrəm/ noun a confusing and difficult problem or question. "one of the most difficult conundrums for the experts" synonyms: problem, difficult question, vexed question, difficulty, quandary, dilemma; More a question asked for amusement, typically one with a pun in its answer; a riddle. synonyms: riddle, puzzle, word game, anagram; More https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&client=ms-android-samsung&source=android-browser&q=conundrum Totally with @Boof on this too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted May 20, 2019 Author Share Posted May 20, 2019 53 minutes ago, Cade said: Conundrum because it's Muslims complaining but you hate LGBT as much as they do? Of course Cade the socialist. Pathetic response. Cade= nigel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 19 minutes ago, Boof said: Yep - doesn't fit either of those definitions for me. So an anagram cant be a difficult problem or question? Cant be a question asked for amusement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted May 20, 2019 Author Share Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Boris said: What’s the conundrum Jake? It's a problem Boris. You dont need me to explain. You are not daft. We either have rights for all or we dont. And looking to the future we had better make that clear. Edited May 20, 2019 by jake Not mate honest ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted May 20, 2019 Author Share Posted May 20, 2019 Just to clarify for those who wish away the problem. Conundrum is as conundrum is. Simple. No? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Cade said: Conundrum because it's Muslims complaining but you hate LGBT as much as they do? I hate Muslims more than I hate LGBT to be honest, so I'm on LGBT side (until they declare their own LGBT caliphate and start all that crucifying Christians and beheadding nonsense that is, then I'll probably have a conundrum). Edited May 20, 2019 by Governor Tarkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted May 20, 2019 Author Share Posted May 20, 2019 I'd imagine if the problem/conundrum was Christian opposed in this instance it would be surprising to see the comments that have been posted. Why can't people judge it without being racist? Just because they are not white or Christian does not make it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpruceBringsteen Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 I've yet to see anyone answer why the kids whose parents don't want them to take part aren't just punted into another room for 45 minutes to draw cocks on the desk or whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 1 minute ago, SpruceBringsteen said: I've yet to see anyone answer why the kids whose parents don't want them to take part aren't just punted into another room for 45 minutes to draw cocks on the desk or whatever. I've yet to see anyone ask. Seems fairly straightforward to me, although I guess the powers that be don't trust parents to be objective with their childs education when it comes to LGBT issues, and are using a sledgehammer to crack a walnut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boof Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 21 minutes ago, been here before said: So an anagram cant be a difficult problem or question? The Countdown ones aren't difficult problems, as such. There's no complex problem-solving skills required to solve them - simply the ability to reorganise letters. Some people can do it more quickly than others, but that doesnt make it a difficult problem. And the only question being asked is 'What nine-letter word can these letters be organised into?' 21 minutes ago, been here before said: Cant be a question asked for amusement? Of course it can but, again, this doesn't apply in Countdown's case. The question is simply being asked in order to see who is to be awarded points. It'd be a bit of a stretch to find that amusing, I'd respectfully suggest. Maybe the 8 out of 10 Cats conundra have an element of amusement in them due to their risqué nature. Sorry for being completely off-topic but I just wanted to explain my reasoning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted May 20, 2019 Author Share Posted May 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, SpruceBringsteen said: I've yet to see anyone answer why the kids whose parents don't want them to take part aren't just punted into another room for 45 minutes to draw cocks on the desk or whatever. Because. It's a right wing religious cult . That's been allowed to dictate not only a labour party who are now viewed as ant Jewish. But dictate the law enforcement. Any labour party member who dares to question this right wing religious cult is racist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted May 20, 2019 Author Share Posted May 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Boof said: The Countdown ones aren't difficult problems, as such. There's no complex problem-solving skills required to solve them - simply the ability to reorganise letters. Some people can do it more quickly than others, but that doesnt make it a difficult problem. And the only question being asked is 'What nine-letter word can these letters be organised into?' Of course it can but, again, this doesn't apply in Countdown's case. The question is simply being asked in order to see who is to be awarded points. It'd be a bit of a stretch to find that amusing, I'd respectfully suggest. Maybe the 8 out of 10 Cats conundra have an element of amusement in them due to their risqué nature. Sorry for being completely off-topic but I just wanted to explain my reasoning. Conundrum is a word before countdown. Just so you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted May 20, 2019 Author Share Posted May 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Barack said: Another wild night in, up in Shetland. Are they trying to teach tolerance in the face of backwardness too ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 30 minutes ago, Boof said: The Countdown ones aren't difficult problems, as such. There's no complex problem-solving skills required to solve them - simply the ability to reorganise letters. Some people can do it more quickly than others, but that doesnt make it a difficult problem. And the only question being asked is 'What nine-letter word can these letters be organised into?' Of course it can but, again, this doesn't apply in Countdown's case. The question is simply being asked in order to see who is to be awarded points. It'd be a bit of a stretch to find that amusing, I'd respectfully suggest. Maybe the 8 out of 10 Cats conundra have an element of amusement in them due to their risqué nature. Sorry for being completely off-topic but I just wanted to explain my reasoning. So then it can be a conundrum. We got there and you have found your dictionary definition. All is well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted May 20, 2019 Author Share Posted May 20, 2019 A wee peak to the future . Nothing to do with skin colour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glottis Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 The crazy thing about this is the education about LGBT is basically "Bobby can have two dads by the way" So (for example) kids who do have same sex parents might actually have a less difficult time at school. They probably also teach primary kids about wars and stuff. Doesn't mean the school are actively getting the kids to go trekking across Europe shooting Germans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 1 hour ago, jake said: It's a problem Boris. You dont need me to explain. You are not daft. We either have rights for all or we dont. And looking to the future we had better make that clear. Sorry, still no clearer to what your point is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 2 hours ago, ri Alban said: Nae conundrum. Leave the kids alone. The LGBT hypocrites like the mooth, wanting to be a lesbian but still wants to be mother but that takes men. You know the people the LGBT mob, hate. Stick to eurofeckingvision and leave parenting to mothers and fathers. It's not about equality or teaching. It's about turning the tables on who they see as the bad guy. This won't stop until everything is destroyed and normality is abnormality. I look forward to death Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 18 minutes ago, Glottis said: The crazy thing about this is the education about LGBT is basically "Bobby can have two dads by the way" So (for example) kids who do have same sex parents might actually have a less difficult time at school. They probably also teach primary kids about wars and stuff. Doesn't mean the school are actively getting the kids to go trekking across Europe shooting Germans. Can dad have 2 Boaby's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted May 20, 2019 Author Share Posted May 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, Boris said: Sorry, still no clearer to what your point is. That's fine . So if you are not aware what the point is perhaps theres no point discussing it. Because boris youd be aware enough if it was right wing white people dishing out death threats. Or Christian women hiding behind Klum Klux Klan sheets. Or Christian whites whose kids dont even attend the school in question. Point is very obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Gashauskis9 said: In before i8ibsh... Arf! I see a conundrum in that there is a sign there saying that "we are not homophobic" but their actions are to try and prevent raising awareness that the world includes gay people (and all the other letters) who should not be discriminated against because they have not made a 'bad choice'. Just like Muslim people, or Jewish people, or Christians or agnostics, etc. have not made a bad choice. The conundrum is that the Muzzies would be claiming intolerance if there were anything to do with their faith but they're claiming that they're not being intolerant. I mean, though: that head teacher wifie, she's made a bad choice with her shades; someone should tell her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 2 hours ago, ri Alban said: Nae conundrum. Leave the kids alone. The LGBT hypocrites like the mooth, wanting to be a lesbian but still wants to be mother but that takes men. You know the people the LGBT mob, hate. Stick to eurofeckingvision and leave parenting to mothers and fathers. It's not about equality or teaching. It's about turning the tables on who they see as the bad guy. This won't stop until everything is destroyed and normality is abnormality. I look forward to death Christ, Ri! I've had a few glasses of refreshment but I'd have to double my intake to come up with a first paragraph like yours. Take some water on before you go to bed, man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted May 20, 2019 Author Share Posted May 20, 2019 2 hours ago, ri Alban said: Nae conundrum. Leave the kids alone. The LGBT hypocrites like the mooth, wanting to be a lesbian but still wants to be mother but that takes men. You know the people the LGBT mob, hate. Stick to eurofeckingvision and leave parenting to mothers and fathers. It's not about equality or teaching. It's about turning the tables on who they see as the bad guy. This won't stop until everything is destroyed and normality is abnormality. I look forward to death So tolerant compared to Brexit voters you are. ??? What a little bigot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpruceBringsteen Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 1 hour ago, jake said: Because. It's a right wing religious cult . That's been allowed to dictate not only a labour party who are now viewed as ant Jewish. But dictate the law enforcement. Any labour party member who dares to question this right wing religious cult is racist. Well nah, because I'm fairly certain it doesn't say "thou shalt not let your bairns learn about the existence of sword fighting/clam jousting" in the Quran. So I'm asking if: a) There was no provision for kids whose parents are against the lessons to go somewhere else (and if not, why not?) or b) These parents don't want ANYBODY to learn about the existence of LGBT people (because good ****ing luck with that ya dafties. ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 7 hours ago, jake said: That's fine . So if you are not aware what the point is perhaps theres no point discussing it. Because boris youd be aware enough if it was right wing white people dishing out death threats. Or Christian women hiding behind Klum Klux Klan sheets. Or Christian whites whose kids dont even attend the school in question. Point is very obvious. Then it isn't a conundrum. The threats to the head teacher are abhorrent. No debate from me over that. Are people allowed to demonstrate/publicaly disagree with the school curriculum? Of course they are. Within the law, obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, jonesy said: Schools - especially primary - are for learning about maths, spelling, reading, geography etc. I was at my son's (primary 2) assembly the other day. The headteacher was banging on about having a growth mindset. FFS. Corporate fluff being directed at 7 year olds. I couldn't give a toss who puts their cock, fingers, tongues or ******s where they have consent to do so in their own time, but leave the sexuality/perversions/kinky stuff to home life. Much like the religion (interestingly, the song sung during assembly was a Christian song with the lyrics modified to be secular). The aggressive liberal LGBT agenda community (nobody really cares who you shag) and aggressive conservative Muslim community (your women look like crap ninjas and your men are terrified of them) are both a bunch of wallopers. Tolerance need not mean active promotion or highlighting of lifestyles that, when all is said and done, are not the norm. If it comes up (oo-er!), then teachers should be confident enough to say that it's fine. Active teaching of anything beyond reproduction and what constitutes unlawful behaviour is not necessary in a state-funded institution. More or less where I am, Jonesy. Edited May 21, 2019 by Governor Tarkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 8 hours ago, jonesy said: Schools - especially primary - are for learning about maths, spelling, reading, geography etc. I was at my son's (primary 2) assembly the other day. The headteacher was banging on about having a growth mindset. FFS. Corporate fluff being directed at 7 year olds. I couldn't give a toss who puts their cock, fingers, tongues or ******s where they have consent to do so in their own time, but leave the sexuality/perversions/kinky stuff to home life. Much like the religion (interestingly, the song sung during assembly was a Christian song with the lyrics modified to be secular). The aggressive liberal LGBT agenda community (nobody really cares who you shag) and aggressive conservative Muslim community (your women look like crap ninjas and your men are terrified of them) are both a bunch of wallopers. Tolerance need not mean active promotion or highlighting of lifestyles that, when all is said and done, are not the norm. If it comes up (oo-er!), then teachers should be confident enough to say that it's fine. Active teaching of anything beyond reproduction and what constitutes unlawful behaviour is not necessary in a state-funded institution. I didn't realise perversions and kinky stuff were part of the curriculum. What kind of stuff are you referring to? "Tolerance need not mean active promotion or highlighting of lifestyles that, when all is said and done, are not the norm." - so you wouldn't want your kid learning about disabilities or the like then? Not that I am equating LGBTI as being a disability, rather your comment "are not the norm". Does the curriculum actually go into the physical/sexual nature of these relationships? I don't know, but I doubt it. I assume, naively perhaps, that it is simply highlighting the great diversity that exists in our society and that people should be treated with respect and by who they are, rather than what they are. What is to be frightened of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Boris said: What is to be frightened of? The ZOG machine. Edited May 21, 2019 by Governor Tarkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CavySlaveJambo Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Relationships education is going to be compulsory in England from September, not the sex education stuff, just relationships and at an age appropriate level, that is also meant to prevent (online) grooming and safety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said: The ZOG machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 There is no conundrum. We have to teach tolerance in schools because this certainly won't be the case if we leave it to the parents. School isn't just for teaching Maths, English etc, it is for preparing children for real life and to be able to take part in, and survive in, modern society. By the way, @ri Alban, even for you that post of yours was completely bonkers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 17 minutes ago, redjambo said: There is no conundrum. We have to teach tolerance in schools because this certainly won't be the case if we leave it to the parents. School isn't just for teaching Maths, English etc, it is for preparing children for real life and to be able to take part in, and survive in, modern society. By the way, @ri Alban, even for you that post of yours was completely bonkers. I'm not sure what age I'd be comfortable with my child being before I devolve that responsibility to the state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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