Rudy T Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Sounds like Steve Clarke, to be announced after the weekends games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Would be delighted, as it would majorly weaken Killie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 does that mean he will be banned from the dugout for Scotlands first game under him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocobeab Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, 1971fozzy said: Would be delighted, as it would majorly weaken Killie Not only that but arguably the best appointment in a while. Manager on the up rather than some pal of the blazers earning a pension top up. Hopefully reinstates a bit of pride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpruceBringsteen Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Probably the only name mentioned in the entire ****show that wouldn't have made me give up for good, so a long slow clap for the SFA there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Shillyshally Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Fits with the "it's Celtics turn" theory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 I think that's a brilliant brilliant choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted May 16, 2019 Author Share Posted May 16, 2019 Just now, cocobeab said: Not only that but arguably the best appointment in a while. Manager on the up rather than some pal of the blazers earning a pension top up. Hopefully reinstates a bit of pride Thats probably the biggest worry...how long before he falls out with them and walks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portable Badger Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) If it materialises then I would be pretty happy with that so long as he's given time by the GFA and fans. I had expected Petrie to put his backing behind Malky !!! Hopefully dodged that one ! Edited May 16, 2019 by Gilbert’s Fridge Predictive text mistake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Probably would suit him. His family are still based on England, so it will allow him to spend more time with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Would be good if it was Clarke, on top of being a first class coach that would probably succeed where others have failed (not an OF sychophant), he's also got Killie punching well above their level. Once he goes I reckon its back to bottom 6 for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Won't matter tbh, the problem is far deeper. We need a 5-10 year plan for Scotland, not a replace the manager every two years once we blow out type approach then try again. McLeish was a horrendous appointment tho, so I suspect Clarke will improve us. On another subject. Keep CL for another season Clarke to be our next manager in a year-18 months. He's the only manager (in Scotland) that I'd have been happy with if CL did decide to leave in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Can we be so lucky to capture Steve Clarke ? Fingers crossed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraggle Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Olly Lee's left boot said: Won't matter tbh, the problem is far deeper. We need a 5-10 year plan for Scotland, not a replace the manager every two years once we blow out type approach then try again. McLeish was a horrendous appointment tho, so I suspect Clarke will improve us. On another subject. Keep CL for another season Clarke to be our next manager in a year-18 months. He's the only manager (in Scotland) that I'd have been happy with if CL did decide to leave in the summer. He won't manage another domestic team in Scotland. To be honest I don't really think he will manage Scotland either, suspect it will be Gemmill that gets the national job (could be way wrong on both counts). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH11 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Weakening Killie is a sad indictment of our mindset. Imagine a league with a strong Hearts, Hibs, Aberdeen, Dundee Utd etc to provide a meaningful challenge to the OF. I want to see strong teams across the league, a decent competitive product and Hearts responding to the challenge by aspiring to be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Great appointment, just what Scotland needs right now. He has Killie ahead of where they should be, hopefully he can do the same with Scotland. Don't need Old Firm players to make that happen either and he knows that. And just like that, I am looking forward to Scotland games again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 1 minute ago, EH11 said: Weakening Killie is a sad indictment of our mindset. Imagine a league with a strong Hearts, Hibs, Aberdeen, Dundee Utd etc to provide a meaningful challenge to the OF. I want to see strong teams across the league, a decent competitive product and Hearts responding to the challenge by aspiring to be better. Well said. Killie are a well run club anyway, his successor picks up a good well organised team. Better that than relegation fodder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) The Scotland jobs like firing your painter and decorator cause every time he paints the damp patch on your kitchen ceiling the damp eventually seeps back through. We don’t need another painter and decorator, we need a builder and a bulldozer to knock the leaky roof down and rebuild it. Clarke will be gone by 2021. We need one governing body, 2 leagues and a pyramid system below the 2 leagues for everyone else. Play offs for the top flights and lower tier, bin the top 6. Play each other twice, bin the TV deal and focus on getting punters back through the door and stop worrying about punters sitting on the coach watching. Longer winter break or look at summer football and for god sake stop looking at the richest league in the world and trying to measure ourselves against it. I’d maybe consider a foreigner cap but I do find that a lazy argument. I’d be more interested in looking at club sanctions/fines for failing to field or develop home grown talent. Clarke will be filed under Burley and when he goes we will look at Strachan or Walter Smith again, like we always do. Edited May 16, 2019 by busby1985 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William H. Bonney Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 33 minutes ago, 1971fozzy said: Would be delighted, as it would majorly weaken Killie I’d prefer a strong Kilmarnock. They seem capable of taking points of the old firm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil D. Corners Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 I’m surprised that the SFA are allowed to approach Clarke before Celtic have decided who their new manager is. Maybe Celtic have someone in mind and have given the SFA their permission to appoint him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joondalupjambo Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 What Euro game experience has Clarke had? I assume some at Chelsea in his capacity as back room boy. International football requires somebody with a good knowledge of football at that level surely? Just because he has had some success with Killie why would we think Clarke will have success at International level. I am in the foreign coach camp and we should have got one from that pool. Clarke, if true smacks of low cost option yet again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Phil D. Corners said: I’m surprised that the SFA are allowed to approach Clarke before Celtic have decided who their new manager is. Maybe Celtic have someone in mind and have given the SFA their permission to appoint him. Probably not far from the truth. Sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It should have been ten Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 29 minutes ago, Olly Lee's left boot said: Won't matter tbh, the problem is far deeper. We need a 5-10 year plan for Scotland, not a replace the manager every two years once we blow out type approach then try again. McLeish was a horrendous appointment tho, so I suspect Clarke will improve us. On another subject. Keep CL for another season Clarke to be our next manager in a year-18 months. He's the only manager (in Scotland) that I'd have been happy with if CL did decide to leave in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King prawn Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 13 minutes ago, Dino Velvet said: I’d prefer a strong Kilmarnock. They seem capable of taking points of the old firm. And us .. 1600 miles I travelled this year to watch us lose two games 1-0 at home to them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It should have been ten Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, Phil D. Corners said: I’m surprised that the SFA are allowed to approach Clarke before Celtic have decided who their new manager is. Maybe Celtic have someone in mind and have given the SFA their permission to appoint him. Sad but probably true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 By far the best candidate. Also someone I believe everyone else will get behind. Very well organised what Scotland need. Got some cracking players he will get the best out of. But above all he is honest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Dale Cooper Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Great choice. Especially as Paddy Power had him at 10/1... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 21 minutes ago, King prawn said: And us .. 1600 miles I travelled this year to watch us lose two games 1-0 at home to them! Shouod have went to the away games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 The right choice if it’s Steve Clarke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Loblaw Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 38 minutes ago, joondalupjambo said: What Euro game experience has Clarke had? I assume some at Chelsea in his capacity as back room boy. International football requires somebody with a good knowledge of football at that level surely? Just because he has had some success with Killie why would we think Clarke will have success at International level. I am in the foreign coach camp and we should have got one from that pool. Clarke, if true smacks of low cost option yet again. Michael O'Neill had a decent run in Europe but had never managed above LOI or Scottish League one. Clarke has experience of managing in England and has consistently got the best out of an average group of players with Killie. He is well organised and puts trust in his players, that's exactly what Scotland need just now. The squad is nowhere near as bad as made out, a manager who can get them playing to their capabilities is all we need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King prawn Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 29 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: Shouod have went to the away games I did - the one of the end of last season and that was 1-0 too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) Personally, I'd appoint someone else. He's done well at club level with a small club but then so have a bunch of failed Scotland managers. The reason for me is that club management and national team management are two completely different jobs with completely different skill sets required. Really, we need someone with national team experience to take the job. But they generally cost a pretty penny and our arsehole FA won't want to spend it. Edited May 16, 2019 by Normthebarman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 15 minutes ago, King prawn said: I did - the one of the end of last season and that was 1-0 too Im confused what games against who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upgotheheads Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 good news if so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks said no Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Get Naismith signed up pronto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBTHEBRUCE Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Jack Ross according to Scott McDonald. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Herbertson Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 1 hour ago, EH11 said: Weakening Killie is a sad indictment of our mindset. Imagine a league with a strong Hearts, Hibs, Aberdeen, Dundee Utd etc to provide a meaningful challenge to the OF. I want to see strong teams across the league, a decent competitive product and Hearts responding to the challenge by aspiring to be better. Me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, BOBTHEBRUCE said: Jack Ross according to Scott McDonald. Put money on some else then? He was certain that Rodgers was staying with Celtic hours before departing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBTHEBRUCE Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, stan said: Put money on some else then? He was certain that Rodgers was staying with Celtic hours before departing I need all my money for the next plane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 If Clarke wants a job in England, now does not seem the time to manage Scotland. He'd have to replicate his Killie performance for a sustained period with Scotland to get that better career move in 4 years. However, if he's not fussed about a decent job in English leagues I could see him making the move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Not the worst choice, but not what I'd have liked. I think we need an experienced and respected foreign manager who the players will want to play for and who won't stand for any of their pulling out injured nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King prawn Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 27 minutes ago, sadj said: Im confused what games against who? Killie - 3 games I’ve been to see against them whilst Clarke has been there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Berwick Jambo Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) The first Scotland managerial appointment I have been happy with in a long long time. I think he will do well. Edited May 16, 2019 by Ibiza Jambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will-i-am-a-jambo Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 If true that Clarke is about to become Scotland manager l'd be delighted with that. Was seriously thinking of quitting going to the Scotland games after the McLeish debacle but would reconsider if Clarke is appointed. Gemmill not so much! However, as pointed out above the problems lie much deeper than appointing another manager although l wish the new appointee much success in the short term at least to get the feel-good factor back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Happy with this, if we are going for a Scottish manager then he is best suited. Apart from Killie he got West Brom to their highest ever Premier league finish. He gets teams punching above their weight and that's what Scotland needs. Also he has great connections down south which should hopefully allow Scotland to find more players eligible for Scotland who can make a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsalldothebeattie Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 I’m happy with that. The best candidate out of the “shortlist” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crete Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Clarke will be a good appointment and he won't take any bull s**t from Petrie and his cronies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holyrood_Hearts Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 2 hours ago, EH11 said: Weakening Killie is a sad indictment of our mindset. Imagine a league with a strong Hearts, Hibs, Aberdeen, Dundee Utd etc to provide a meaningful challenge to the OF. I want to see strong teams across the league, a decent competitive product and Hearts responding to the challenge by aspiring to be better. Completely agree with this. He’s done a cracking job with them & id happy see him stay there (I’m not convinced he’s the answer for Scotland either) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav M Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Hmmmmm, Scotland job part time allowing him to continue as killie manager as well maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Dale Cooper Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 21 minutes ago, Gav M said: Hmmmmm, Scotland job part time allowing him to continue as killie manager as well maybe Nah he wants to move back to Englandshire to stay with his family. The Scotland gig allows him to do that, Killie not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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