Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted May 14, 2019 Author Share Posted May 14, 2019 5 hours ago, Calebs Grandad said: Jack Nicholson would walk into our first team right now. You are a Joker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Just now, Sir Gio said: You are a Joker He's cuckoo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted May 14, 2019 Author Share Posted May 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said: He's cuckoo. Sorry that flew over me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain America Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 As has been mentioned if Nicholson is interested in coming back to Scotland and we don't at least speak to him I would be disappointed. He is better than what we have just now, few more years experience won't have done him any harm. As Boab mentioned, I remember the game against Partick after Hibs loss when we were promised reaction, Sam was only player who tried that day, Tearing about like a man possessed trying to make things happen, we were wearing White away strip and he came off the park mokit whilst the big Greek huddy in middle of the park came off park, strip like it was out a Daz advert not a mark on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Amazing how much better a player becomes in the minds of supporters when they’ve been away a while. Nicholson has scored four goals over 2 years in a league that literally rains goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: Sorry that flew over me I'm away to my nest. Night night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 I liked Nicholson. It was an enjoyable time to be watching Hearts. Alexander, Paterson, Wilson , Nicholson, Walker, King, Buaben, Gomis and Sow all getting 20+ appearances over a few seasons. I think we'll look back on it as one of the high points. Direct, exciting and effective football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 1 hour ago, OTT said: He did, I think players sometimes need a change of pace and scenery. Coming back into the league I'd think/hope he'd be able to offer some refreshing. The core of the question is, would he improve us? Is he a better player than Mulraney, Moore and Morrison? The answer to those questions is emphatically yes. McInnes isn't a dafty, he wants him because he sees a good player that can make an impact at this level. We should be in, even if we don't manage to do a deal it will at least make the dons pay over the odds. Edit: Also think Jake would benefit from not having the pressure of being our main winger. Nicholson might help add an edge of competitiveness to Mulraneys game. Was reading the Aberdeen forums and they seem to think they're in for Danny Wilson too. I remember the 15-16 season and how Nicholson and Walker used to link well and could dominate the odd game when they fancied it. I don’t know why but I always remember a draw at home v Killie where we pounded them , particularly the first half, and both those two were at the heart of everything. The shots rained in and McDonald seemed to save everything. But it was the relentless running, ebb and flow, of Sam and Jamie I remember. I just don’t think we have the players right now who work themselves enough into dangerous positions over 90 minutes. It’s lack of quality or tenacity, possibly lack of chemistry between parts of the team. Mulraney has come on alot in the last few months but isn’t helped or complimented by a strong enough midfield or left back , backing him up. The only game recently I felt he was given good support which enabled him to be more dangerous was the derby at Tynie. Having Burns at LB gave us a feel of what we used to have from that area and helped Mulraney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zico Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Artful Dodger said: Usual stuff i see for a departed player. Absolute Shite etc etc while he was a Hearts player, now a living legend and we need him back. Standard fare. Absolutely this. I like Sam, know some of his family and he’s a good lad. But he got all sorts of shit when he was here but is apparently now some kind of superstar. I wish him well but think Mulraney gives us better options - pace and the ability to play multiple positions being highest amongst them. All IMO of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/danny-wilson-sam-nicholson-part-15793284 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 He was our last decent winger/wide midfielder along with Walker. Blew hot and cold but could ping in a shot from distance and had a fair bit of pace and skill. I doubt he could play the wing back role as well as Mulraney has at times but on form he's the type of player we need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Sam, Walker, King were great in the championship season against pish teams but look at them now. From that group of young lads Callum Paterson has gone on to establish himself down south. He has the drive, attitude and determination to go as far as he can in the game. The other 3 have not got that in them IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhalljambo15 Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Tell me no one is suggesting our best winger Jake Mulraney is a better winger than Nicholson? Would take him back in a heartbeat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari Gold Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Would probably be an alright signing but that just proves where we are at the moment - worse than our first season back up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calebs Grandad Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 16 hours ago, JohnB said: He's seemingly trying to agreed a pre-contract, but it could fail on his one condition - he wants to keep his axe when playing the hobos. ps he' s very serious - this was him at CL''s office door earlier today ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calebs Grandad Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 12 hours ago, Sir Gio said: You are a Joker I see what you did there ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 11 hours ago, Robbo-Jambo said: Sam, Walker, King were great in the championship season against pish teams but look at them now. From that group of young lads Callum Paterson has gone on to establish himself down south. He has the drive, attitude and determination to go as far as he can in the game. The other 3 have not got that in them IMO. Watching Walker and Nicholson rip Aberdeen apart early in the relegation season was a proper highlight of that year for me. Unfortunately they either did not have the character, or the circumstances to really push on from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 My harsh feedback for Sam, and I've told him this to his face He cannot pass a player 8/10 times unless they're really 5hite and he cannot cross a road never mind a ball, he blames it all on Levein and his failure to utilise wingers fully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambo85 Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 (edited) I wonder if Nicholson has learned to beat a defender and get the ball to the bye line yet or if he is still a one trick pony who cuts in every time he decides to have a run? Edited May 15, 2019 by Lambo85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 (edited) I think the question is this: Does he have that bit of quality that can be relied upon to REGUALRLY turn tight stuffy games from draws/losing by a goal games to wins? I liked Sam but I think my answer to that is - he could do sometimes but couldn’t be relied upon to play with that extra edge of quality most games. So it’s a no from me. Edited May 15, 2019 by Jammy T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 37 minutes ago, Jammy T said: I think the question is this: Does he have that bit of quality that can be relied upon to REGUALRLY turn tight stuffy games from draws/losing by a goal games to wins? I liked Sam but I think my answer to that is - he could do sometimes but couldn’t be relied upon to play with that extra edge of quality most games. So it’s a no from me. I think you're right. Shame though as watching the video above made me want him back despite not being a huge fan first time around. Easy to look a pick of good moments and forget the rest. Even in the video it was over a few seasons to compile that and at one point it references it was his first goal in 3 months or something like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 57 minutes ago, Lambo85 said: I wonder if Nicholson has learned to beat a defender and get the ball to the bye line yet or if he is still a one trick pony who cuts in every time he decides to have a run? There are very few players in the modern game who hit the byeline. I would also say that the days of the winger hugging the touchline and then beating the full back are over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Armageddon said: My harsh feedback for Sam, and I've told him this to his face He cannot pass a player 8/10 times unless they're really 5hite and he cannot cross a road never mind a ball, he blames it all on Levein and his failure to utilise wingers fully. Sam blames the guy who joined as DoF when Sam was about 20 for his inability to cross a ball? I liked the laddie and thought he had real potential but he was another one who chucked it under Cathro. The spitting incident did him no credit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bairdy Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Sam could turn it on at times, but not enough times for me. Wasn't too fussed when he left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambo85 Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 56 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: There are very few players in the modern game who hit the byeline. I would also say that the days of the winger hugging the touchline and then beating the full back are over. Must be easy to defend against a winger in the modern game then. Just show him the outside everytime knowing that he will never go there and just cut in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonnicky63 Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Armageddon said: My harsh feedback for Sam, and I've told him this to his face He cannot pass a player 8/10 times unless they're really 5hite and he cannot cross a road never mind a ball, he blames it all on Levein and his failure to utilise wingers fully. 44 minutes ago, Lambo85 said: Must be easy to defend against a winger in the modern game then. Just show him the outside everytime knowing that he will never go there and just cut in. Wow it always amazes me why more fans like you 2 don’t turn to coaching excellent post, you should e mail this to CL he could do with someone like you on his coaching staff or better still kick him out and take over, I am sure you would break the old firm strong hold on this very tough league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB GIN Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 On 14/05/2019 at 11:09, busby1985 said: Folk acting like he wouldn’t walk into our first team ?. They haven’t a clue these people Nicholson and Walker back would be delighted but would never happen they are too exciting for Craig Tactically naive I believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambo85 Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, maroonnicky63 said: Wow it always amazes me why more fans like you 2 don’t turn to coaching excellent post, you should e mail this to CL he could do with someone like you on his coaching staff or better still kick him out and take over, I am sure you would break the old firm strong hold on this very tough league You are hilarious. Doesnt get away from the fact that Sam Nicholson was a one trick pony and was easy to defend against. Gets the ball on the wing, runs at a defender and then cuts in. Yeah it worked twice against Hibs but that was it. Edited May 15, 2019 by Lambo85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonnicky63 Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Lambo85 said: You are hilarious. Doesnt get away from the fact that Sam Nicholson was a one trick pony and was easy to defend against. Gets the ball on the wing, runs at a defender and then cuts in. Yeah it worked twice against Hibs but that was it. Worked twice Really ? I can name a lot more than 2 as many on here can as well, just cancel my last post your sacked, even Cathro lasted longer than you, and it all looked so promising early doors, deary me you may not like the lad but what at a load of pish you spout ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irufushi Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 4 hours ago, bairdy said: Sam could turn it on at times, but not enough times for me. Wasn't too fussed when he left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 4 hours ago, Nookie Bear said: There are very few players in the modern game who hit the byeline. I would also say that the days of the winger hugging the touchline and then beating the full back are over. The best wingers these days are full backs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 On 14/05/2019 at 10:38, mellors1874 said: he's one trick pony if that's Aberdeens level then fine by me One trick more than any of our ponies have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambo85 Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 2 hours ago, maroonnicky63 said: Worked twice Really ? I can name a lot more than 2 as many on here can as well, just cancel my last post your sacked, even Cathro lasted longer than you, and it all looked so promising early doors, deary me you may not like the lad but what at a load of pish you spout ? Can you? Go on name them then. And folk on here moan that our strikers don’t score enough goals. Aye let’s get cut inside Nicholson back who can’t cross a road never mind a football! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonnicky63 Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Lambo85 said: Can you? Go on name them then. And folk on here moan that our strikers don’t score enough goals. Aye let’s get cut inside Nicholson back who can’t cross a road never mind a football! Call yourself a supporter and you can’t name more than 2. Can I point you towards a poster who has highlighted the lads goals on this thread are you still asleep? Deary me. Nicholson ,Walker and King for that matter would stroll into this Hearts side at the moment and you know it but you won’t admit it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 19 hours ago, i wish jj was my dad said: Sam blames the guy who joined as DoF when Sam was about 20 for his inability to cross a ball? I liked the laddie and thought he had real potential but he was another one who chucked it under Cathro. The spitting incident did him no credit. Nope but he did blame him for his instructions NOT to run the wing, cutting in was the instruction. He wouldn't come back I don't think but I know Danny Wilson 100% wants to finish his playing career at us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonnicky63 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 13 minutes ago, Armageddon said: Nope but he did blame him for his instructions NOT to run the wing, cutting in was the instruction. He wouldn't come back I don't think but I know Danny Wilson 100% wants to finish his playing career at us. Danny Wilson does not 100% want to finish his playing career with us, if he got an offer from Rangers that would be his choice, he is a Rangers man through and through and was bitterly disappointed when they did not try and keep him. He done really well at Hearts TBF but he will have other options if he decides to come back. Agree with you re Nicholson though I think the booing episode because he had the cheek to say he wanted to try something different probably left a bitter taste in his mouth much like Walker really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, maroonnicky63 said: Danny Wilson does not 100% want to finish his playing career with us, if he got an offer from Rangers that would be his choice, he is a Rangers man through and through and was bitterly disappointed when they did not try and keep him. He done really well at Hearts TBF but he will have other options if he decides to come back. Agree with you re Nicholson though I think the booing episode because he had the cheek to say he wanted to try something different probably left a bitter taste in his mouth much like Walker really He might be now, but he was Celtic daft as a kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 26 minutes ago, Armageddon said: Nope but he did blame him for his instructions NOT to run the wing, cutting in was the instruction. He wouldn't come back I don't think but I know Danny Wilson 100% wants to finish his playing career at us. Sam left in 2017, before Levein took over as manager. Is he saying that Levein was giving match day instructions over the top of Neilson and Cathro? Hasn't everyone confirmed that he was very rarely in the changing room? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 22 minutes ago, Smithee said: Sam left in 2017, before Levein took over as manager. Is he saying that Levein was giving match day instructions over the top of Neilson and Cathro? Hasn't everyone confirmed that he was very rarely in the changing room? He was in the changing room at Pittodrie 2017 for starters and spoke to Sam before they left the ground about a new contract and it was along the lines of "You were shite today yet again and the contract we've offered you is as good as anybody should be offering you" Anyway, it's a NO from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Armageddon said: He was in the changing room at Pittodrie 2017 for starters and spoke to Sam before they left the ground about a new contract and it was along the lines of "You were shite today yet again and the contract we've offered you is as good as anybody should be offering you" Anyway, it's a NO from me. One instance fits with "very rarely" I'd say, and contracts fall directly within a DoF's remit. But I was asking about Sam saying that Levein was telling him to cut in - Levein wasn't in charge of the team, he had very little to do with matchday stuff, didn't do any coaching and was rarely in the dressing room, as confirmed all over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Danny and Sam are hardly tearing it up at Colorado Rapids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambo85 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 15 hours ago, maroonnicky63 said: Call yourself a supporter and you can’t name more than 2. Can I point you towards a poster who has highlighted the lads goals on this thread are you still asleep? Deary me. Nicholson ,Walker and King for that matter would stroll into this Hearts side at the moment and you know it but you won’t admit it. Jamie Hamill could walk into our team right now but that doesnt mean we should go out and sign him. So are you refuting the fact that Sam continually cut in all the time (regardless if you felt it was effective)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonnicky63 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Forever Hearts said: He might be now, but he was Celtic daft as a kid. Don’t doubt that at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonnicky63 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 16 minutes ago, Lambo85 said: Jamie Hamill could walk into our team right now but that doesnt mean we should go out and sign him. So are you refuting the fact that Sam continually cut in all the time (regardless if you felt it was effective)? 16 minutes ago, Lambo85 said: Jamie Hamill could walk into our team right now but that doesnt mean we should go out and sign him. So are you refuting the fact that Sam continually cut in all the time (regardless if you felt it was effective)? Sam along with Walker done ok for Hearts if you get a kick out of cheap shots, go ahead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 3 hours ago, Armageddon said: Nope but he did blame him for his instructions NOT to run the wing, cutting in was the instruction. He wouldn't come back I don't think but I know Danny Wilson 100% wants to finish his playing career at us. Was Levein ever Sam's manager? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, i wish jj was my dad said: Was Levein ever Sam's manager? Well ... are you talking officially? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Nicholson would walk in to our team right now. I’m sure he’d flourish playing with Naismith and Uche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonnicky63 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Smithee said: One instance fits with "very rarely" I'd say, and contracts fall directly within a DoF's remit. But I was asking about Sam saying that Levein was telling him to cut in - Levein wasn't in charge of the team, he had very little to do with matchday stuff, didn't do any coaching and was rarely in the dressing room, as confirmed all over. Bloody hell what utter shite , As an ex professional I have never read so much crap you guys spout on here , don’t listen to all that pish , levein would never do or say half the shite that you guys come out with, he wants what is best for Hearts and always has done, he is a decent guy , coming on here making up stories and slating every player who pulls the maroon jersey on. On that note it’s time for me to go , you guys don’t deserve a decent team or players, it’s sad for me as a Jambo to say that. To the decent support on here thanks for the chat over the past few years. Maroonnicky63 OUT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 19 minutes ago, Armageddon said: Well ... are you talking officially? Is Sam saying Levein coached / instructed the players while DoF? I'm not doubting you but Robbie, Cathro and Don Cowie said he didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambo85 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 1 hour ago, maroonnicky63 said: Sam along with Walker done ok for Hearts if you get a kick out of cheap shots, go ahead Its not a cheap shot, I am just stating fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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