heartsfc_fan Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 He's had some ok moments but I think on more than one occasion he's been subbed off at half time (not because he was playing badly). Obviously not particularly fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 Id forgotten about him. Was it him who came in injured, took a while to get a game, looked no bad, got injured before ciming back but not looking as good as he did? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulf Jambo Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, heartsfc_fan said: He's had some ok moments but I think on more than one occasion he's been subbed off at half time (not because he was playing badly). Obviously not particularly fit. He was subbed off twice at Half Time due to concussion injuries. If i remember he broke his nose badly years ago and now its a problem spot and can bleed & get damaged more easily and be linked to easier concussions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 42 minutes ago, martoon said: We made some bizarre signings under Romanov but, credit Craig, he matched, maybe even exceeded, the crazy. Some of the best players I will ever see under Romanov. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 15 minutes ago, Gulf Jambo said: He was subbed off twice at Half Time due to concussion injuries. If i remember he broke his nose badly years ago and now its a problem spot and can bleed & get damaged more easily and be linked to easier concussions Oh aye thats right. He was hooked at half time in one game following an elbow in the face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlad on the tyne Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 White ain't very good. He struggled for the majority of his appearances and rarely completed games. The chat from Levein about us being lucky to have him and wouldn't be here if it wasn't for injuries 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 Still think he is a decent player. Needs a run free of injuries and getting smashed in the face tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 17 minutes ago, weehammy said: True...but sadly also some of the worst. Remember the best forget the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 Always find it a little mad when people slate managers for these kind of signings. Hindsight is wonderful, but look at the guys CV. Clearly he has quality and calibre. Sadly fitness issues have prevented him showing that. Shite it hasn't really worked out and I'd be content to cut cloth as we are a bit over stocked for left backs, but to call him a shocking signing is a bit much. Mr Levein has plenty knives in his back already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: Still think he is a decent player. Needs a run free of injuries and getting smashed in the face tho. I bet he agrees! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost in space Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, Locky said: Always find it a little mad when people slate managers for these kind of signings. Hindsight is wonderful, but look at the guys CV. Clearly he has quality and calibre. Sadly fitness issues have prevented him showing that. Shite it hasn't really worked out and I'd be content to cut cloth as we are a bit over stocked for left backs, but to call him a shocking signing is a bit much. Mr Levein has plenty knives in his back already. It was shocking to give more than a 1year deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
number-16 Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 He'd probably have got a bit more game time too if Hickey hadn't broken through at 16 and played so well (he signed before Hickey even made his debut iirc). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 31 minutes ago, jr ewing said: Some of the best players I will ever see under Romanov. Agreed. Saw some of the worst, too. 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, lost in space said: It was shocking to give more than a 1year deal. I'd agree with that. The contract durations for a few of the signings when he was here was very odd. I get that short deals can be risky as if they have a great season and interest crops up, they'll **** off for free, but we've sadly only been affected by the other extreme. Long deals for players who've done **** all but take up a wage bill. 3 years for Damour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 Very odd signing and summed up Levein in a nutshell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodami Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 I feel for White, I really do. When he has played he has undoubtedly tried his best but in all honesty he hasn't been great at all. Upsetting to see how panicked his body language is when he does get injured in a tackle, he is carrying a lot of fear which is understandable. The signing of players who have had promising starts to their careers and then stalled for various reasons rarely works. Whether it's injury like White or complete loss of form like Avdijaj the chances of turning things around is slim and requires a great deal of investment of money and time. We need to stop gambling like this in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famous 1874 Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 The guy is absolutely terrible. Bet he must have been pissing himself when offered a 2.5 year deal after not playing for 2.5 years. Levein in a nutshell that signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 Levein should be put in jail for some of these honking signings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holyrood_Hearts Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 41 minutes ago, Locky said: Always find it a little mad when people slate managers for these kind of signings. Hindsight is wonderful, but look at the guys CV. Clearly he has quality and calibre. Sadly fitness issues have prevented him showing that. Shite it hasn't really worked out and I'd be content to cut cloth as we are a bit over stocked for left backs, but to call him a shocking signing is a bit much. Mr Levein has plenty knives in his back already. It’s like the criticism of Halkett on another thread by a couple posters. He’s not had a great season but he’s not been a bad signing at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holyrood_Hearts Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, Famous 1874 said: The guy is absolutely terrible. Bet he must have been pissing himself when offered a 2.5 year deal after not playing for 2.5 years. Levein in a nutshell that signing. He’s not terrible ffs. Get a grip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluorescent Adolescent Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 Good player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famous 1874 Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Holyrood_Hearts said: It’s like the criticism of Halkett on another thread by a couple posters. He’s not had a great season but he’s not been a bad signing at all. 2 minutes ago, Holyrood_Hearts said: He’s not terrible ffs. Get a grip Many games you watched this season? Halkett has been absolutely atrocious bar 1 or 2 games (Hibs away both times and Rangers in the cup) standout to me. The guy cost us goals every week man. Aidy White is nowhere near Hearts level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, Holyrood_Hearts said: It’s like the criticism of Halkett on another thread by a couple posters. He’s not had a great season but he’s not been a bad signing at all. He's disappointed me a little, perhaps I expected too much. But given the season we've had, it's hard to judge him too much. He's relatively young for a centre half still so I'm confident he'll come around eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holyrood_Hearts Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, Famous 1874 said: Many games you watched this season? Halkett has been absolutely atrocious bar 1 or 2 games (Hibs away both times and Rangers in the cup) standout to me. The guy cost us goals every week man. Aidy White is nowhere near Hearts level. He has not to be fair. Berra, Doyle & Pereira have been more accountable than Halkett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gedster Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 You see his name in the starting 11 you want to start hurting yourself!! Dreadful, horrific, unbelievable.. etc...etc...etc sums up the crap that Levein believed could fight for the cause Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ93 Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 How many games did he play? Christ we really are the job centre for football players aren't we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Locky said: Always find it a little mad when people slate managers for these kind of signings. Hindsight is wonderful, but look at the guys CV. Clearly he has quality and calibre. Sadly fitness issues have prevented him showing that. Shite it hasn't really worked out and I'd be content to cut cloth as we are a bit over stocked for left backs, but to call him a shocking signing is a bit much. Mr Levein has plenty knives in his back already. I think Craig Levein thought he could successfully repeat the gamble he made with Neil McFarlane, during his first spell as manager. McFarlane came to us with a bad injury, on cheap wages, but was rehabilitated by Hearts and did us a reasonable turn when he got fit and in the team. Maybe the injury history of Levein, himself, gave him a desire to give long term injured players a second chance. Who knows. He badly overdid it with so many players, of this condition, during his time as DOF and then manager. Looking for bargains, but just loading the squad up with players who, sadly, were just never going to recover sufficiently to play at a high level again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 A career ruined by injury sadly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, SectionDJambo said: I think Craig Levein thought he could successfully repeat the gamble he made with Neil McFarlane, during his first spell as manager. McFarlane came to us with a bad injury, on cheap wages, but was rehabilitated by Hearts and did us a reasonable turn when he got fit and in the team. Maybe the injury history of Levein, himself, gave him a desire to give long term injured players a second chance. Who knows. He badly overdid it with so many players, of this condition, during his time as DOF and then manager. Looking for bargains, but just loading the squad up with players who, sadly, were just never going to recover sufficiently to play at a high level again. Spot on. There are gems out there to be discovered and I don't want us to give up signing a punt type player here and there. I'm totally happy for us to put aside budget for that every year as we have had a lot of success with that approach in the past. However, we did sign too many at one time and the injuries meant a number of punts and players signed to fill out the squad in the hope of one being a gem ended up in the first team quite quickly out of necessity. Levein has taken players being played out of position or who have been injured or who had had fairly obscure and/or injury hit careers and turned them into great signings in the past so it's understandable he had the confidence he could do it. Maybe he wasn't involved enough with the players on a day to day basis to do that anymore? Who knows? Haring and Sow probably go down as his last two successful signings of that type. Edited June 7, 2020 by ToqueJambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gershwin Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Locky said: I'd agree with that. The contract durations for a few of the signings when he was here was very odd. I get that short deals can be risky as if they have a great season and interest crops up, they'll **** off for free, but we've sadly only been affected by the other extreme. Long deals for players who've done **** all but take up a wage bill. 3 years for Damour. Sorry to break it to you, but Damour was actually given a 4 year deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Gershwin said: Sorry to break it to you, but Damour was actually given a 4 year deal Aww ****, I got mixed up cos it's still 3 years left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 Our defence / goalkeeping all season has been honking. The only exception has been Hickey. every other player has been instrumental in our brutal season. Halkett has been hugely disappointing in particular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 Just now, Locky said: Aww ****, I got mixed up cos it's still 3 years left. that’s depressing as hell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 5 hours ago, Locky said: Always find it a little mad when people slate managers for these kind of signings. Hindsight is wonderful, but look at the guys CV. Clearly he has quality and calibre. Sadly fitness issues have prevented him showing that. Shite it hasn't really worked out and I'd be content to cut cloth as we are a bit over stocked for left backs, but to call him a shocking signing is a bit much. Mr Levein has plenty knives in his back already. Knives in his back? You make it sound like Levein has been hard done by! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Gershwin said: Sorry to break it to you, but Damour was actually given a 4 year deal WTF gets a 4 year deal - and what idiot would give one out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meadows Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 If White was on a pay per play deal he’d be skint ! Probably be on Working tax credit or some kinda benefit . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fxxx the SPFL Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Meadows said: If White was on a pay per play deal he’d be skint ! Probably be on Working tax credit or some kinda benefit . A bit harsh Calum, anyway get the guy that runs your old boozer Dickens to start serving takeaway bevvy all it needs i believe is to change to an off licence. I have been drinking outside the Chain Pier for the last couple of weeks weather permitting they serve alcohol from a window tins of beer/lager and a two litre Tennents lager plastic container, small bottles of wine and prosecco luvvly jubbly. The manager told me that they just asked to change to an off licence. Nice wee open beer garden to the side with great views over the forth to fife. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) Even lower league players will have his number. A standard Tunnocks Caramel Wafer Challenge Cup level signing from the Budge era. Edited June 7, 2020 by i8hibsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveins Battalion Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 Terrible signing.The guys is 3 yards off the game and soft as shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 Another shit player in a very long list of shit compiled by the shittest manager in history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Ramsay Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 The 45 minute man. Probably still trying to get fit. Total passenger, get rid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hood09 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 Am I the only one that thought he was coming into a game before season stopped ? Lots of decent last ditch tackles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 51 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: Even lower league players will have his number. A standard Tunnocks Caramel Wafer Challenge Cup level signing from the Budge era. What games have you seen him play in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxfee Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 I think injuries and time away have proved too much to overcome for him. Really showed his skill and ability in a few games last season, but that was all. Shame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Hood09 said: Am I the only one that thought he was coming into a game before season stopped ? Lots of decent last ditch tackles He was. He was out the game a long time and I think he could end up doing ok. We need to be getting players in that can hit the ground running and are fully match fit though. There were too many players who didn’t have 90 minutes in them last season. Edited June 7, 2020 by GinRummy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Leveins Battalion said: Terrible signing.The guys is 3 yards off the game and soft as shite. You think he’s too slow?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveins Battalion Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 59 minutes ago, kila said: You think he’s too slow?! He is not slow but he is miles and miles off the pace of professional football,I can remember what game it was ( one where he and Berra were running into each other all game) I wa embarrassed for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsuperslim1874 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Leveins Battalion said: He is not slow but he is miles and miles off the pace of professional football,I can remember what game it was ( one where he and Berra were running into each other all game) I wa embarrassed for him. Berra did that to a few folk though..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 I think Aidy White may be the player who benefits most from lockdown. Last season showed that at least he was capable of playing again, although confidence and fitness still very fragile. Remember he had out been out injured for almost 3 years! He certainly showed sparks of ability and even blistering pace on occasions. A full pre season on top of a prolonged period of being injury free will make a world of difference to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 He wasn’t worth the wait but he’d probably do ok in the championship tbh. A really poor signing by CL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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