Forever Hearts Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, amadjambo said: Possibly. But Maclean did play well and he worked his backside off. Not sure Lafferty would have put that effort in. But there's a good chance he would've done something Maclean was never going to do - put the ball in the Celtic net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, OTT said: We were playing Celtic mate. 3 certainties in life, death, taxes and Lafferty getting it up the hooped demons. Very true. Lafferty also would have been a huge improvement over Maclean and Amankwa at Murrayfield in the Semi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big man Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 With the amount of injuries we seem to pick up especially with Uche out for a long spell as well this is a no brainier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Lafferty spent much of his time with us playing right midfield, and he’s a better option there than Walker (even if he isn’t deemed an improvement up front). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newton51 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Lafferty does have baggage but would be an improvement in the squad. If wighton is out longer-term and McLean out the picture then it’s a no brainer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Would be buzzing but still going to say it’s got absolutely no chance of happening. Unless we see scarf on heid, it’s not happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Maybe it would be good to have a “numpty” around the dressing room. A big loveable dafty? Just saying, could lift the gloom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudiHMFC Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Signing Lafferty would make far too much sense for it to happen. Better to stick with guys that either don't score or are always injured, or both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveins Battalion Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Laff and Hearts go.Get it done ffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Future's Maroon Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 29 minutes ago, big man said: With the amount of injuries we seem to pick up especially with Uche out for a long spell as well this is a no brainier Have I missed something?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 57 minutes ago, c41rns said: Rumour being he didn’t apply himself in training before his move. Played when it suited him and encouraged (actively or otherwise) the Union Jack brigade to become more vocal. I’d love his goals, but wouldn’t lose sleep if he didn’t sign. Didn't apply himself at Ibrox in training straight from his own interview Thats for his beloved sevco. Anyway he ain't coming back here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagan Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said: Didn't apply himself at Ibrox in training straight from his own interview Thats for his beloved sevco. Anyway he ain't coming back here. There have been a few quality players that have admitted they didn't train well. I'm sure Matt le tissier was one. I'd put money on gazza not training hard as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Get him back now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Sagan said: There have been a few quality players that have admitted they didn't train well. Jim Baxter for example. Arguably the most skilful player Scotland has ever produced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Sagan said: There have been a few quality players that have admitted they didn't train well. I'm sure Matt le tissier was one. I'd put money on gazza not training hard as well. True, but he admitted in an interview that if he had trained harder Gerrard would have played him more. Thats a huge incentive to play for a team he was dying to get back to and a bit strange how he wasn't prepared to up his effort and desire to do that. With respect Lafferty wasn't in the same league as Gazza or Matt le Tissier by a long way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Prof said: Jim Baxter for example. Arguably the most skilful player Scotland has ever produced. He was indeed but he could get away with it. Lafferty couldn't and he was in a different world from the brilliant Baxter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 George Best hated training. Maybe a reason his top level career was over at 27 right enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 2 hours ago, big man said: With the amount of injuries we seem to pick up especially with Uche out for a long spell as well this is a no brainier Uche out for a long spell. Not seen that anywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said: George Best hated training. Maybe a reason his top level career was over at 27 right enough. That and the birds and booze but he was still some player and a superstar even if quit at an early age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagan Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said: True, but he admitted in an interview that if he had trained harder Gerrard would have played him more. Thats a huge incentive to play for a team he was dying to get back to and a bit strange how he wasn't prepared to up his effort and desire to do that. With respect Lafferty wasn't in the same league as Gazza or Matt le Tissier by a long way. Laffery scored 19 goals for us at the end of the day. 1 off Robbo's record. We have to weigh that up against his bad points. Edited August 12, 2019 by Sagan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newton51 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Robbo-Jambo said: Uche out for a long spell. Not seen that anywhere Havent seen it either but would explain his current form as don’t think he has been right since he came back. Maybe that’s where the Lafferty rumours came from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hectormasson Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 2 hours ago, OTT said: We were playing Celtic mate. 3 certainties in life, death, taxes and Lafferty getting it up the hooped demons. That's the fourth certainty,🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏🇱🇻🇱🇻🇱🇻🇱🇻🇱🇻I get you m8,,love special K back,,,,unlikely though,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagan Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, Hectormasson said: That's the fourth certainty,🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏🇱🇻🇱🇻🇱🇻🇱🇻🇱🇻I get you m8,,love special K back,,,,unlikely though,,, That's actually 5 certainties if you include the special k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hectormasson Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sagan said: That's actually 5 certainties if you include the special k. 🙈👏👏👏👏👏👏🙌🇱🇻🇱🇻🇱🇻🇱🇻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 22 minutes ago, Prof said: Jim Baxter for example. Arguably the most skilful player Scotland has ever produced. No one can beat Willie Morgan or George Best for not being totally committed all the time. Morgan, "hard work never killed anyone but why take the chance Best, most of my money I spent on birds and booze. The rest I squandered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 12 minutes ago, Newton51 said: Havent seen it either but would explain his current form as don’t think he has been right since he came back. Maybe that’s where the Lafferty rumours came from It would affect his form and it has done just dont see anything official that he is going to be our for a long period. Knowing our injury record nothing would surprise me ☹️☹️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky jamboa Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Levein is in the last chance saloon. A defeat on Friday v motherwell, a big defeat at parkhead or any sort of defeat v hibs and the fan pressure on him to go will surely be too much, even for Budge. For that reason, I wouldn't be surprised if he brought Lafferty back. His goals could keep him his job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 16 minutes ago, Sagan said: Laffery scored 19 goals for us at the end of the day. 1 off Robbo's record. We have to weigh that up against his bad points. Get what you are saying but as far as his career has gone stats wise that seems to be a bit of a one off season. Plus his attitude now must be a concern as he said if he trained harder at Ibrox he would have got more game time If he really wanted to play for his boyhood heroes why didn't he push himself harder at training with them. From what I have heard he is fallen badly off the wagon with the issues he had under control at Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Paulp74 said: Levein is in the last chance saloon. A defeat on Friday v motherwell, a big defeat at parkhead or any sort of defeat v hibs and the fan pressure on him to go will surely be too much, even for Budge. For that reason, I wouldn't be surprised if he brought Lafferty back. His goals could keep him his job! Could he guarantee that level of goals scoring with us again. Bit of a one of season when you look at his career records. There is also the fact he could disrupt the dressing because Berra and Naismith have no time for him at all. High risk factors there IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagan Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said: Could he guarantee that level of goals scoring with us again. Bit of a one of season when you look at his career records. There is also the fact he could disrupt the dressing because Berra and Naismith have no time for him at all. High risk factors there IMO Performance related pay could be an option. Also, not sure that the dressing room is in much of a good state the now to be honest, and berra is finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky jamboa Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said: Could he guarantee that level of goals scoring with us again. Bit of a one of season when you look at his career records. There is also the fact he could disrupt the dressing because Berra and Naismith have no time for him at all. High risk factors there IMO Where did you hear about Berra and Naismith having no time for him? I saw berra and lafferty together at a shareholder dinner and they seemed to get on well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 11 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said: Could he guarantee that level of goals scoring with us again. Bit of a one of season when you look at his career records. There is also the fact he could disrupt the dressing because Berra and Naismith have no time for him at all. High risk factors there IMO Why does this get consistently rolled out as a stick to beat Lafferty with? Strikers who've scored 20 goals a season throughout their career don't sign for Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 We should only care about winning, would we win more with lafferty back? Without doubt. He had a knack of scoring crackers at big moments in big games, I think he could be like rudi in that some players just work at some clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 No danger Budge will sign this off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newton51 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Sir Gio said: No danger Budge will sign this off I would normally agree but they must know about the supporter unrest at the moment and this might get the fans off their back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Sir Gio said: No danger Budge will sign this off Not being intentionally arsey, but why do you say that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tntjambo Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 For me he would be a good re signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodami Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 He just wasn't that good, we need players who can score in games like Saturday's and that was never his forte. Ultimately he did well in 2 games against Celtic, scored against Hibs and helped us finish 6th. No better than last season. The biggest game he played in was the cup quarter final against Motherwell and he was poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jodami said: He just wasn't that good, we need players who can score in games like Saturday's and that was never his forte. Ultimately he did well in 2 games against Celtic, scored against Hibs and helped us finish 6th. No better than last season. The biggest game he played in was the cup quarter final against Motherwell and he was poor. scored 19 goals.. so he did more than you suggest, in a far weaker team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoncurMacdonaldMercer Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 1 minute ago, kingantti1874 said: scored 19 goals.. so he did more than you suggest, in a far weaker team that poster is more concerned about union flags than hearts winning which is his right lafferty scored in the Motherwell game he refers to - he also for example scored that incredibly scrappy goal at murrayfield to win what looked a nailed-on 0-0 at best against st Johnstone - fairly sure he didn't score all his goals against Celtic and hibs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodami Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: scored 19 goals.. so he did more than you suggest, in a far weaker team You can talk about the 19 goals, a complete outlier in his career, but watching him he was ordinary. No assists, little link up and can't head the ball. The issues at the club just now are coaching and style related, the true potential of the squad isn't realised until that changes. Acquiring more players changes nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 It wasn't even like we were creating loads of chances for him either in his spells with us.I mean loads just seem to come out of nothing or he created it himself.We don't have that type of player anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodami Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 1 minute ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said: that poster is more concerned about union flags than hearts winning which is his right lafferty scored in the Motherwell game he refers to - he also for example scored that incredibly scrappy goal at murrayfield to win what looked a nailed-on 0-0 at best against st Johnstone - fairly sure he didn't score all his goals against Celtic and hibs A penalty and then missed a chance to put us in front. The only success that day was Milinkovic and he only played the second half. Your big players are supposed to deliver in games that matter and he clearly failed in our biggest game of the season. I'm not going to even dip a toe into any of the other waters, there's no need as it's solely about quality and how a player would fit into the team. You carry on though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoncurMacdonaldMercer Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, Jodami said: A penalty and then missed a chance to put us in front. The only success that day was Milinkovic and he only played the second half. Your big players are supposed to deliver in games that matter and he clearly failed in our biggest game of the season. I'm not going to even dip a toe into any of the other waters, there's no need as it's solely about quality and how a player would fit into the team. You carry on though... "solely about quality " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Newton51 said: I would normally agree but they must know about the supporter unrest at the moment and this might get the fans off their back The fans that would most celebrate this signing are the ones that won't change thier mind regarding CL. Be like the SNP or lib dems reaching out to brexit party voters, pointless in that regard. In regards to football, he scored a fair amount and the quality of his goals was good for us. Only the negative side- Would he be value for money? Naismith doesn't like him, he couldn't wait to leave us, his general contribution wasn't great outside his goals-he was often honking. He has personal issues. If he signs he might add something, if he doesn't then we might be dodging a bullet. Edited August 12, 2019 by Smith's right boot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Paulp74 said: Where did you hear about Berra and Naismith having no time for him? I saw berra and lafferty together at a shareholder dinner and they seemed to get on well. I know for a fact that Naismith doesn't like him and Berra was raging at his behaviour towards fans at Tynie last season and pulled him back and had words with him to try and get him to show some respect. When was the shareholders dinner maybe before that incident but have heard Berra wasn't keen on him from a few folk. The Naismith thing is 100 per cent true though and having a feeling that his input about players is highly regarded by the management. Anyway think the chances about him coming are extremely remote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bainy Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 He scored 19 goals and was not even fit all season he missed a few games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloustonHMFC Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said: I know for a fact that Naismith doesn't like him and Berra was raging at his behaviour towards fans at Tynie last season and pulled him back and had words with him to try and get him to show some respect. When was the shareholders dinner maybe before that incident but have heard Berra wasn't keen on him from a few folk. The Naismith thing is 100 per cent true though and having a feeling that his input about players is highly regarded by the management. Anyway think the chances about him coming are extremely remote. I was also told that Naismith has no time for him, I would imagine because Naismith is a switched on guy who puts family and security first whereas Lafferty is nothing but a waster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byyy The Light Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 55 minutes ago, Jodami said: He just wasn't that good, we need players who can score in games like Saturday's and that was never his forte. Ultimately he did well in 2 games against Celtic, scored against Hibs and helped us finish 6th. No better than last season. The biggest game he played in was the cup quarter final against Motherwell and he was poor. 🙌🏼 couldn’t agree more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Forever Hearts said: Why does this get consistently rolled out as a stick to beat Lafferty with? Strikers who've scored 20 goals a season throughout their career don't sign for Hearts. Didn't say throughout his career, but he has only done it once so he is anything but prolific. As I said his training and attitude was poor with Rangers and he admitted it. This is for the club he loves so the question is why is that the case. Furthermore his attitude would probably be even worse anywhere else. Personally I think he has gone football wise and his demons have resurfaced since rejoining them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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