tcjambo Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Oh dear. Mind you he did have a point considering Cosgrove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Jambo Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 I dont mind managers having a bit of a moan from time to time but he takes it way to far. And these latest comments are embarrassing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcjambo Posted April 21, 2019 Author Share Posted April 21, 2019 Mentioned the "big team" again like he did against us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Good on him for speaking out. Broadfoot is about angle you see it at. Red card from referee's angle. Steven MacLean is a shit ref. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Thought it was hilarious. He's going to get absolutely hammered for it. Tbh, I hope it triggers a referees strike. Anything to get those clowns out of the game and quickly. The SFA absolutely needs to look at their current practises. Pretty much every senior referee is from the Lanarkshire association which in their eyes begs no investigation or review? Aye okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky jamboa Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Only in Scotland would you have... ahem.... alleged Celtic and rangers fans taking charge of a game involving those teams. Mark clattenburg recently came out to say he was a Newcastle fan and hence why he was never allowed to referee one of their games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Challenging SFA to hire or bypass him for Scotland job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick witter Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Ten times the manager Levein is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick witter Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Just now, Barack said: Have a drink, rick. The trolling is getting a bit 2017/18 now. ?? It’s the truth pal. Would you not agree?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick witter Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Just now, Barack said: How do you quantify "ten times"...out of morbid curiosity? Why not twice? Or a hundred? Ok to simplify just better then. More points, more wins, better league positions. All on probably half of our managers budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick witter Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Barack said: Why bring it up then? On a thread that's got nothing to do with Levein. How many threads have you posted your feelings on that particular subject matter...including the Levein "super thread"? Just lighten up. Or debate the point of the thread.?♂️ Up to you, of course. No answer to my post then?? Obviously you agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick witter Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Just now, Barack said: My thoughts on Levein and his position, have been covered on various threads ad nauseam, rick. Please don't assume. Thanks. Apologies for the assumption. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudiHMFC Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Thought it was funny but maybe a tad personal. Two of them weren't reds imo but Broadfoot is a complete ***** so I can see why the ref sent him off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick witter Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Barack said: Fair enough. There are other threads to discuss Clarke's virtues, or Levein's faults. I'm banned from some admittedly... Too many threads getting dragged off in a cluster**** nowadays. Ageeed and I’m sorry for that. ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William H. Bonney Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 All 3 were harsh reds. The first and last in particular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Barack said: Fair enough. There are other threads to discuss Clarke's virtues, or Levein's faults. I'm banned from some admittedly... Too many threads getting dragged off in a cluster**** nowadays. Good for you, well said. Edited April 21, 2019 by Mikey1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874s_Kin Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Paulp74 said: Only in Scotland would you have... ahem.... alleged Celtic and rangers fans taking charge of a game involving those teams. Mark clattenburg recently came out to say he was a Newcastle fan and hence why he was never allowed to referee one of their games. Ditto Michael Oliver, who currently doesn't get Newcastle Utd games as he's a declared Mag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Slim Stylee Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 4 hours ago, rick witter said: It’s the truth pal. Would you not agree?? Im guessing he’s not actually your “pal”, son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 None of them were red cards. Especially with Findlay’s. If that’s a second booking, then why did Cosgrove not get a second booking? There’s no consistency. Sounds like a terrible refereeing performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionG Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 58 minutes ago, Uncle Buck said: None of them were red cards. Especially with Findlay’s. If that’s a second booking, then why did Cosgrove not get a second booking? There’s no consistency. Sounds like a terrible refereeing performance. Findlay’s first booking is from the incident where Cosgrove could have picked up a 2nd yellow and then it’s one of those incidents where it’s a yellow each or nothing, yet he chooses just to book Findlay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasavallan Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 McLean's father is an ex-Killie player. He lives in Ayrshire and supported Killie as a boy. I despair why the SFA would have him officiate a Killie game. That would not happen in England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 5 hours ago, rick witter said: Ten times the manager Levein is. You Sir are a ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 11 hours ago, rick witter said: Ten times the manager Levein is. 10 times! You are being highly unfair there rick On Clarke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaps Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 He’s just becoming a moaning faced prick. Every week there’s something new to greet about. Great manager mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig_ Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, Chaps said: He’s just becoming a moaning faced prick. Every week there’s something new to greet about. I know. No idea why he's still allowed to post on here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, Chaps said: He’s just becoming a moaning faced prick. Every week there’s something new to greet about. Great manager mind. We have plenty of those on here too. I think he has a point tbf but he comes across as a knob. In saying that I really hope the GFA appoint him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrekeo Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 32 minutes ago, Craig_ said: I know. No idea why he's still allowed to post on here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokyowalnut Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 12 hours ago, rick witter said: Ok to simplify just better then. More points, more wins, better league positions. All on probably half of our managers budget. You're boring. Every single thread you pop up with some Levein related dig, this thread has nothing to do with him. --------‐----------------------------------------- Clarke is right to say something, the standard of our refs is shocking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
part_time_jambo Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 8 hours ago, Uncle Buck said: None of them were red cards. Especially with Findlay’s. If that’s a second booking, then why did Cosgrove not get a second booking? There’s no consistency. Sounds like a terrible refereeing performance. I agree, both were identical challenges. Only thing I can think of is that the Cosgrove one was earlier in the game and the ref didn't want to start sending players off. When Finlay was sent off he may have been trying to calm things down. Inconsistent is the best you can call it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, rick witter said: Ten times the manager Levein is. Is that the same Levein who has taken 6 points from a possible 9 from Clarke's team, and would have had 9 from 9 but for yet another bad refereeing decision ? A decision that strangely, Clarke had nothing to say about Edited April 22, 2019 by The Treasurer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weegie jambo Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 just watched all the sendings off on the BBC site. I cant say I thought any of them merited a red card. Absolutely terrible refereeing, what happened to managing the game, talking to the players etc. I'm fully in favour of Clarke moaning, someone needs to keep highlighting these problems and telling it as it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, weegie jambo said: just watched all the sendings off on the BBC site. I cant say I thought any of them merited a red card. Absolutely terrible refereeing, what happened to managing the game, talking to the players etc. I'm fully in favour of Clarke moaning, someone needs to keep highlighting these problems and telling it as it is. Totally agree, people (fans of other teams) need to start getting behind managers when they call out refs for being either shite, or bent, and not laughing at them, because if you laugh at them then you're aiding the problem. If that was 3 of our players sent off for those challenges we'd all be screaming blue murder! You also need to ask yourselves that if those challenges were made by a Rangers or Celtic player, would they have resulted in any sendings off at all? Not a chance! It would be a wee word in the dish, a pat on the bum, and play on son! Call me a cynic, but Killie are now without 3 of their first team for a trip to Parkhead in a game which could allow Celtic to lift the title at home, unless Rangers win also, then Celtic can win it at Ibrox, which is exactly what the authorities will not want to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tian447 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Pretty much bang on, the refereeing in the SPFL is absolutely shite, and the more these things gets called out, and attention drawn to it in the news and on Social Media, the better. The first 2 were never, ever red cards. Not sure what Broadfoot was doing, but it didn't look like he intentionally kicked the keeper in the face. Findlay's challenge clearly won the ball, which you can see him saying in the highlights, and the Aberdeen player hits the deck after he realises he's not got there first. It wasn't even an overly physical challenge. Sam Cosgrove is quickly becoming one of my least liked players in Scotland though. He's a moaning, diving, fouling, cheating dick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 It was the usual erratic refereeing we are accustomed to in Scotland but Clarke has gone too far with the personal stuff. It was a lunge on the keeper by Broadfoot and Clarke has no need to moan about that one anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I am kinda 50/50 about the Broadfoot one. Yes the ball is there to be won but the lunge is pretty late and reckless. Maybe a yellow but I can see why it was given. Last one MacLean has completely made up what he has seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgie rd eh11 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Interesting that he's "privately" been trying to influence who referees Kilmarnock games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonnicky63 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Way over the top comments and he should be ashamed of himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I am not a fan of the kind of challenges on goalkeepers that Broadfoot got sent off for as they are very dangerous. Shay Given talks about a similar challenge that could have killed him and the medical staff were saying his injuries were similar to people who had been in car crashes. In my opinion Broadfoots was a dangerous challenge that deserved a red yet the pundits thought a foul was enough as he tried to play the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 All 3 were correct decisions it’s not McLeans fault Killie lost the plot! What he got wrong was no 2nd yellow for cosgrove! Clarke thinks he’s above the rules, he’ll be back down south in the closed season and we’ll never hear of him again until whoever the next patsy in the Scotland job gets sacked! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 hour ago, The Old Tolbooth said: Totally agree, people (fans of other teams) need to start getting behind managers when they call out refs for being either shite, or bent, and not laughing at them, because if you laugh at them then you're aiding the problem. If that was 3 of our players sent off for those challenges we'd all be screaming blue murder! You also need to ask yourselves that if those challenges were made by a Rangers or Celtic player, would they have resulted in any sendings off at all? Not a chance! It would be a wee word in the dish, a pat on the bum, and play on son! Call me a cynic, but Killie are now without 3 of their first team for a trip to Parkhead in a game which could allow Celtic to lift the title at home, unless Rangers win also, then Celtic can win it at Ibrox, which is exactly what the authorities will not want to happen. They would not have been sent off and maybe even wouldn't have had a foul awarded against them. I don't think McLean would have had that in mind as his brother was on Rangers' books. Really just more evidence of crap/biased officiating from the Lanarkshire/Weegie elite reffing school. Come Saturday it must be the turn of Clancy or the boy wonder Dallas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morph Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 If Levein had said the same sort of thing we'd all be praising him for standing up to the SFA over their shit refs. Doesn't really matter if he took it too far on this occasion the standard of officiating has been terrible for decades and we need more guys like Clarke coming forward taking them to task. It's clear as day they're pish and i think it's great he's spoken so strongly against them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcjambo Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, Morph said: If Levein had said the same sort of thing we'd all be praising him for standing up to the SFA over their shit refs. Doesn't really matter if he took it too far on this occasion the standard of officiating has been terrible for decades and we need more guys like Clarke coming forward taking them to task. It's clear as day they're pish and i think it's great he's spoken so strongly against them. Some people would be railing froth foaming from the mouth if CL has said that. They woudl also have questioned his integrity for being so personal in mentioning Mclean's background. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japanjambo Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Clarke was right in everything he said. Awful refereeing. How the hell Cosgrove stayed on the pitch, only the ref knows. He should have been off against us too!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 33 minutes ago, JamboAl said: They would not have been sent off and maybe even wouldn't have had a foul awarded against them. I don't think McLean would have had that in mind as his brother was on Rangers' books. Really just more evidence of crap/biased officiating from the Lanarkshire/Weegie elite reffing school. Come Saturday it must be the turn of Clancy or the boy wonder Dallas. I've honestly never seen such a poor crop of refs, they're utterly murder! I really hope we get VAR up here because by Christ it will show that lot up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 17 hours ago, Paulp74 said: Only in Scotland would you have... ahem.... alleged Celtic and rangers fans taking charge of a game involving those teams. Mark clattenburg recently came out to say he was a Newcastle fan and hence why he was never allowed to referee one of their games. It's no surprise as they virtually all come from three associations surrounding the weej. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, Tasavallan said: McLean's father is an ex-Killie player. He lives in Ayrshire and supported Killie as a boy. I despair why the SFA would have him officiate a Killie game. That would not happen in England. Same reason they gave Beaton our game (plus the fact he's a hun fanatic). There are no referees outwith the west coast who could be deemed neutral at the top table. Edited April 22, 2019 by Seymour M Hersh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky jamboa Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 20 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: It's no surprise as they virtually all come from three associations surrounding the weej. Precisely. How do they get away with it and why do clubs like us, hibs, Aberdeen not challenge it? I don't get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
part_time_jambo Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Will Aberdeen get pulled up for more than 3 players in a group at the Broadfoot sending off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 36 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Same reason they gave Beaton our game (plus the fact he's a hun fanatic). There are no referees outwith the west coast who could be deemed neutral at the top table. Its getting unbelievably frustrating. There is zero transparency from the refereeing association/ SFA. They actually used to have all the referees profiles up on the SFA website with a short bio but chose to remove it at some point (likely because when every location read 'Lanarkshire' they probably felt it might give the game away). We shouldn't ever be concerned who the referee is going into a game and yet we constantly are. Clarke might have been a bit aggressive in making his point, but its a point that needs to be made. Mclean with his ties to Killie should never be able to referee games involving them. Its utter madness. Sometimes I don't know why we as non-OF fans even bother. The game is pretty much rigged. They have the finances, they have the media, they have the referees, they have the SFA - What is the ****ing point? It sickens me to my stomach and makes my blood boil. We'd have more chance of winning Takeshi's Castle than winning the ****ing league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Broadfoots leading foot was nowhere near the ball when the challenge was made. He was high and late and can’t complain. The final red will be rescinded as I think it may have looked like he aimed a punch from a certain angle but he didn’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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