RudiHMFC Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Don't know, this team might be ok under a decent manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 21 minutes ago, TheOak88 said: The 2013 team was pretty poor. Probably worse than the current bunch tbh. You could argue the 1999 team was as bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j1964m Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 (edited) Can't say no but not seen this team in a cup final Edited April 20, 2019 by j1964m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doc Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Just now, Marvin said: You could argue the 1999 team was as bad. I’d argue we weren’t in a cup final in 1999. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doc Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 15 minutes ago, shaun.lawson said: Ah - but like Norm above, what I'm doing here is comparing the meeting ahead with Lennon's Celtic with the semi-final with Lennon's Celtic. Would our current side be big favourites against Hibs 2012? Of course it would. The question's whether we can raise it and produce one glorious, inspirational effort in a similar way to the semi-final seven years ago. Fair enough. I sure hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartandsoul Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 2 hours ago, vegas-voss said: Simple question really.I look at the team sheet most weeks and I just think what a poor side. Yes this is the poorest Hearts team to reach a Cup Final. Easy draw to the final is the only reason we are there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henryheart Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 The 1968 team finished 12th in the 18 team league. While I remember being thrilled at the 6-5 win over Dundee United, losing 6-3 (yes 6-3) to Clyde (that's right, Clyde!) and 2-0 at home to Raith Rovers crushed me - the latter spoiled my 9th birthday. The 76 team was better in my opinion, but only just. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 42 minutes ago, Hairdryer said: Spot on terrifies me even thinking about the final You think Rick is 'spot on' in saying that we have a 1% chance in the final? What shite!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doc Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Morgan said: You think Rick is 'spot on' in saying that we have a 1% chance in the final? What shite!! I’d place us right now as a 12/1 shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Is this team poorer than McGlynns/Lockes team? Probably not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slashishere Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 hour ago, shaun.lawson said: 1976 wins easily. And the 2013 League Cup Final side was much, much worse than this. It's a bit of a daft question, because Hearts so rarely reach finals when we don't have a good or very good side. And the only time we've ever won anything when we hadn't had a great season beforehand was 2012. We're extremely fortunate to be in a position whereby one huge performance transforms the entire season into a great success. So let's take it. Far to logical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, The Doc said: I’d place us right now as a 12/1 shot. If I could get 12/1 in a two-horse race, I’d take it right now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doc Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Morgan said: If I could get 12/1 in a two-horse race, I’d take it right now! Sadly, such is my faith in the current team, I wouldn’t back them with your money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyhmfc Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 12/1 shot? I happen to think that we are a much longer shot than that. I would be wanting at least 25/1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Thomson Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 I missed the opening goal in the 76 cup final, ? if I remember the game kicked off early and Rangers scored before 3pm, or it might be my age ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 I would take John Mcglynn over Levein and i'd take Mcglynn's granny over the hippie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 I reckon they’d beat 2012. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamof1958 Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Okay, let me put this to bed. I'm must be the oldest, or ar least among the oldest, Hearts supporter on this site. This is without a doubt, the WORST Hearts team I can ever remember. There are no tactics, the players can't play and it's dull and embarrassing to watch. Craig Levein has to take responsibility, he has to go. I think he's bright enough to understand - hopefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Uncle Buck said: I reckon they’d beat 2012. They couldn't even beat 2012 eggs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 45 minutes ago, The Doc said: I’d argue we weren’t in a cup final in 1999. ? True but team performance was as bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 9 minutes ago, teamof1958 said: Okay, let me put this to bed. I'm must be the oldest, or ar least among the oldest, Hearts supporter on this site. This is without a doubt, the WORST Hearts team I can ever remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 WAKE ME UP AT THE FINAL WHISTLE AND BREAK THE NEWS TO ME SOFTLY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 36 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: I would take John Mcglynn over Levein and i'd take Mcglynn's granny over the hippie. 12 more pints of Tennents and 6 double Smirnoffs for this particular poster this evening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick witter Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 hour ago, shaun.lawson said: About 30% IMO. You can’t seriously believe that mate. Did you watch Celtic against Aberdeen in the semi?? They ripped them apart with wave after wave of attacks and attempts at goal. If they do that to us we have little chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 42 minutes ago, Graham Thomson said: I missed the opening goal in the 76 cup final, ? if I remember the game kicked off early and Rangers scored before 3pm, or it might be my age ? Yep, you’re right. ? 1-0 down by 2.55pm that day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doc Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Morgan said: Yep, you’re right. ? 1-0 down by 2.55pm that day. I’ve seen worse. When we played Rangers at Ibrox last month, we were completely and utterly destroyed an hour and 15 mins before ko. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamof1958 Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 31 minutes ago, shaun.lawson said: Sorry, which planet are you from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 48 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: They couldn't even beat 2012 eggs. And you’re the voice of reason, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doc Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, teamof1958 said: Sorry, which planet are you from? Lets not get silly now. Its no great but it doesn’t make the top (worst) twenty since 1970. Edited April 20, 2019 by The Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Humped by Rangers in 98 and 12. Humped again in 19. Seasoned Watchers realise this is Hearts. As long as we get the key men back these last 5 games equals nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gedster Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Change title to "Is this the most yellow bellied bunch of shitebags in maroon ever to fluke their way to a Scottish Cup Final" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doc Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Sir Gio said: Humped by Rangers in 98 and 12. Humped again in 19. Seasoned Watchers realise this is Hearts. As long as we get the key men back these last 5 games equals nothing 98 team quality spoke for itself. 12 team had match winners in it and a manager who had owned the opponents all season long. I get what you’re saying of course but the build up to this years final isn’t remotely comparable to the ones you’ve mentioned, imo. Signed, yours, A seasoned campaigner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac80 Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 We have a decent squad and a better manager could get more out of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcjambo Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1976 end of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 minute ago, The Doc said: 98 team quality spoke for itself. 12 team had match winners in it and a manager who had owned the opponents all season long. I get what you’re saying of course but the build up to this years final isn’t remotely comparable to the ones you’ve mentioned, imo. Signed, yours, A seasoned campaigner. You forget 12. It was very similar. Laced with shite through it. It had Rudi Skacel. This has Steven Naismith. Difference? Skacel rarely missed a game. Not many went to the 12 semi believing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambomjm74 Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Just now, The Doc said: 98 team quality spoke for itself. 12 team had match winners in it and a manager who had owned the opponents all season long. I get what you’re saying of course but the build up to this years final isn’t remotely comparable to the ones you’ve mentioned, imo. Signed, yours, A seasoned campaigner. 98 team was class and beat a Rangers team that was way way above any team in the league now. 12 Team had an aged Rudi and Suso with Webster.. I think very comparable to the team now... Can Levein’s class of 2019 provided week on week entertainment, no chance! Can they win the cup - yep in a one off game... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gedster Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Just now, jambomjm74 said: 98 team was class and beat a Rangers team that was way way above any team in the league now. 12 Team had an aged Rudi and Suso with Webster.. I think very comparable to the team now... Can Levein’s class of 2019 provided week on week entertainment, no chance! Can they win the cup - yep in a one off game... Are you on crack cocaine, Crystal Meth or glue?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doc Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Just now, Sir Gio said: You forget 12. It was very similar. Laced with shite through it. It had Rudi Skacel. This has Steven Naismith. Difference? Skacel rarely missed a game. Not many went to the 12 semi believing We had a better balanced defence. Players in midfield that were able to influence a game. Wide players we could only now dream of and in Beattie we had injected something into the team that had been missing. In no way was that team a great team but I had far more belief going into that semi than I do going into this final. In fact I seem to recall the narrative on our bus was along the lines of ‘we need to win today to take care of hibs as I don’t trust lennons Celtic to take care of hibs in the final’ Anyway, time will tell and I pray to god you’re correct and I’m miles off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doc Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, jambomjm74 said: 98 team was class and beat a Rangers team that was way way above any team in the league now. 12 Team had an aged Rudi and Suso with Webster.. I think very comparable to the team now... Can Levein’s class of 2019 provided week on week entertainment, no chance! Can they win the cup - yep in a one off game... I don’t think they’re comparable at all but each to their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudiHMFC Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 That 2012 team was ****ing miles better than this shower, ridiculous to even suggest it wasn't, in terms of ability and character just no comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doc Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: You forget 12. It was very similar. Laced with shite through it. It had Rudi Skacel. This has Steven Naismith. Difference? Skacel rarely missed a game. Not many went to the 12 semi believing And as someone who missed 4 (by count) games all season long, I don’t forget at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doc Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Just now, RudiHMFC said: That 2012 team was ****ing miles better than this shower, ridiculous to even suggest it wasn't, in terms of ability and character just no comparison. I really don’t get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB GIN Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 2 hours ago, RudiHMFC said: Don't know, this team might be ok under a decent manager. It would certainly be better but not sure how much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, The Doc said: We had a better balanced defence. Players in midfield that were able to influence a game. Wide players we could only now dream of and in Beattie we had injected something into the team that had been missing. In no way was that team a great team but I had far more belief going into that semi than I do going into this final. In fact I seem to recall the narrative on our bus was along the lines of ‘we need to win today to take care of hibs as I don’t trust lennons Celtic to take care of hibs in the final’ Anyway, time will tell and I pray to god you’re correct and I’m miles off. We had proper width i agree this team lacks. Beattie had no impact on the final really. Barr and 2 t's were honest. This team needs Naismith to tie it together. Shit teams have won cups. This would not be the worst team to win one. It has beaten Celtic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambomjm74 Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, gedster said: Are you on crack cocaine, Crystal Meth or glue?? No and you don’t need to be such a total bell nd with your response Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doc Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Sir Gio said: We had proper width i agree this team lacks. Beattie had no impact on the final really. Barr and 2 t's were honest. This team needs Naismith to tie it together. Shit teams have won cups. This would not be the worst team to win one. It has beaten Celtic Was talking about beatties impact in semi but yes, We’re one game away and sometimes strange things happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gedster Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, jambomjm74 said: No and you don’t need to be such a total bell nd with your response then make sensible and credible comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambomjm74 Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Just now, gedster said: then make sensible and credible comment You are being abusive, so I responded... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busbyblitz Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Been to every cup final since 1968 v Pars. Apart from 1976 this is only one i'm going into with no confidence whatsover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 The 2012 team lost 4 0 at home to Celtic prior to beating them in the semi. It also lost 3 0 at Motherwell for example. It lost to Dundee United often it lost to St Johnstone often. It's ok now it has the most famous day banked. But mostly it was shite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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