bigis semiauskas Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Like big Uche but still think our Championship team had more about them, Zeefuik was a natural finisher, whereas Uche is just a bit hit and hope kind of player. But that’s where we are at the moment with recent signings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauld Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 I think this team would smash our championship team. I wish we could put Zeefuiks ability to finish into Uche. What a player that would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 (edited) . Edited April 13, 2019 by kila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fort Vallance Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Totally different players. Both of them have their own positives. Zeefuick would score in the top league. But can you imagine the carnage Uche would have caused in the second tier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboelite Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Zeefuik did it in the championship i was never convinced he would step up into the premiership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Zeefuik done nothing at all outside the box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Zeefuik done nothing at all outside the box But then again, scoring goals is what wins games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 As an athlete obviously no contest uche >zee, as as a footballer and a finisher zee > uche.. he had tremdous balance, absolute and his finishing was superb.. he was utterly unplayable at times.. that last game against rangers .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinger Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Zeefuik hasnt had a club for 2 years, so no contest really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
number-16 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Imagine those two playing together ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpruceBringsteen Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 I don't dislike Zeefuik, but he was playing against posties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambos_1874 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Imagine a boxing match between the two. Would be like Frazier v Ali. Except more brutal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftBack Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 2 hours ago, bigis semiauskas said: Like big Uche but still think our Championship team had more about them, Zeefuik was a natural finisher, whereas Uche is just a bit hit and hope kind of player. But that’s where we are at the moment with recent signings. Great point imo.... Two similar players. Think I'd go for uche for overall but no doubt zeefuick was a great goalscorer. His performance against rangers in the championship was as good as an impact as I've seen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Australis Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Not involving any of the two players mentioned, but I did not know that Osman Sow was playing for Dundee United. He did very little in the televised match against Ayr United a few days ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 38 minutes ago, SpruceBringsteen said: I don't dislike Zeefuik, but he was playing against posties. also scored 3 in 2 v rangers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Sammon v Uche is more politically correct and also a better argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay James Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Uche will have the better career and I'd have him over Zeefuik all day long. He is unplayable at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozi Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Uche is all strength, power and he works incredibly hard, but his touch is poor and he doesn't have a strikers instinct. Zeefuik was slow, immobile and a bit fat but he had that rare instinct and ability to hit it well and early Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 3 hours ago, bigis semiauskas said: Like big Uche but still think our Championship team had more about them, Zeefuik was a natural finisher, whereas Uche is just a bit hit and hope kind of player. But that’s where we are at the moment with recent signings. Why does this post have just a wee bit of a #obo feel to it. The last sentence is a dead giveaway. Or am I mistaken? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Bauld said: I think this team would smash our championship team. I wish we could put Zeefuiks ability to finish into Uche. What a player that would be. Yip And as a side note, imagine Uche in the championship........ Allot of folk still don't understand the championship is a lower level of football. We were to the championship what Celtic are to the top league. Quite an achievement for us with Rangers and Hibs in it who should have been allot closer to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 I’d say bring back zeefuik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 No brainer get him back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queensferryjambo Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 4 hours ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Zeefuik done nothing at all outside the box He certainly started lots of the moves in midfield that led to goals. He certainly scored a few from outside the box did he not? I personally thought he was excellent outside of the area and that was his whole game. My recollection of him was he stood and took the ball in the midfield either turned and charged into an area where he could shoot OR took the ball in midfield and got it quickly out to the wingers then turned and ran into area hoping for the ball to be returned back into the box. He was excellent at creating his own space after laying the ball off from midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Would rather have Uche Much more to his game than Zeefuik had. With his pace (or lack of it) I couldn't imagine Zeefuik doing anything in the SPL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudi5kaceldream1ng Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Tough call-Uche is a more dedicated athlete but zeefuik the more gifted player. Uche for me though because he works harder-big zee was just too overweight for a top level athlete. There’s a reason for that and it’s because he doesn’t work hard enough. If you do 3 mile runs every day after training like Steven Pressley did at hearts then you’re not going to be fat as a professional footballer I don’t care how slow your metabolism is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgieshed Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 It's a simple answer Uche by a mile. Zeeifuk would have been lost in this team, Uche stands out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It should have been ten Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Uche every time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T.F.Robertson Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 4 hours ago, SpruceBringsteen said: I don't dislike Zeefuik, but he was playing against posties. Still delivered though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 2 hours ago, J.T.F.Robertson said: Still delivered though. I thought he was first class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hereford_hearts Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 50 minutes ago, NANOJAMBO said: I thought he was first class. I'm glad you posted that!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Jambo Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Zeefuik scored plenty but so many were six yard box finishes. I don’t recall him doing anywhere near as much as Uche outside the box in terms of hassling defenders, running channels etc. He also scored a high percentage of his goals against bottom half of championship opposition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 I liked Zeefuik but it's impossible to judge considering he played half a season In the championship rather than the Premiership. Uche would have a field day at that level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E3OBE Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 In the championship we played with quite often three attacking midfielders (Walker, King & Nicholson) behind a striker. Plenty chances created. I think it’s harsh to compare as we don’t have anywhere near the same creativity. It’s the one and only thing we should be focused on in the summer. Wingers please, pacey wingers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMJ_1874 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 2 hours ago, NANOJAMBO said: I thought he was first class. Could put it in the postage stamp corner as well. On a side issue, isn’t vanacek wearing Zeefuicks old shorts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 11 hours ago, SpruceBringsteen said: I don't dislike Zeefuik, but he was playing against posties. Ranggers and hibs were really no worse than 6 or 7 of the premiership teams that season. I think what ze would have done okay in the top league and possibly even very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VALDOS Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 13 hours ago, Bauld said: I think this team would smash our championship team. I wish we could put Zeefuiks ability to finish into Uche. What a player that would be. This team on the whole have struggled against bottom 6 teams, i just couldnt see in a million years how they would smash the championship team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Our Championship side is nowhere near as good as this team. Player for player miles better off now. I’d only have Paterson and maybe Sow back in this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 I'd love us to get big zee in over the summer. Assess his fitness and see if he could make an impact. Firmly believe he's one of the best natural finishers we've seen. A little bit of work on our side with minimal risk could net us huge returns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Would love to see Uche & Zeefuik as a front 2 together. Would be the pumping iron equivalent of the technical battering ram duo of Jani & Bednar... Burley proved until Bednar's injury that a pair of big guys can be constructively destructive in Scottish football. No idea why nobody has tried it again since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 23 hours ago, bigis semiauskas said: Like big Uche but still think our Championship team had more about them, Zeefuik was a natural finisher, whereas Uche is just a bit hit and hope kind of player. But that’s where we are at the moment with recent signings. This team is playing at a higher level. A fact conveniently forgotten by some. Most of the players from the Championship side are now playing at a lower level. Uche would have ripped the Championship apart imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/sport/football/ex-hearts-striker-genero-zeefuik-16153884 could do a job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgie rd eh11 Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 On 13/04/2019 at 19:33, bigis semiauskas said: Like big Uche but still think our Championship team had more about them, Zeefuik was a natural finisher, whereas Uche is just a bit hit and hope kind of player. But that’s where we are at the moment with recent signings. Do people really take this bollocks seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 On 14/04/2019 at 19:07, Spellczech said: Would love to see Uche & Zeefuik as a front 2 together. Would be the pumping iron equivalent of the technical battering ram duo of Jani & Bednar... Burley proved until Bednar's injury that a pair of big guys can be constructively destructive in Scottish football. No idea why nobody has tried it again since. Bednar and Jankauskis were quality players. Janny was a Champions League winner ffs. To compare either of them to Uche & Zeefuik beggars belief. Both big battering rams , but watching Uche trying to control the ball at times is laughable. No comparison whatsoever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 On 13/04/2019 at 11:33, bigis semiauskas said: Like big Uche but still think our Championship team had more about them, Zeefuik was a natural finisher, whereas Uche is just a bit hit and hope kind of player. But that’s where we are at the moment with recent signings. Zeefuik also played for us against mostly part time defenders and terrible goalies in the Championship, so there's that. Uche would have also ripped up that league. I do agree Zeefuik seemed more of a goalscorer whereas Uche brings more to the team. I'd see the 2014/15 Zeefuik as a partner rather than alternative for Uche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thought Police Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Zeefuik did score quite a few in the championship, but hasn’t Uche scored against every lower league opponent he’s played this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 39 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: Bednar and Jankauskis were quality players. Janny was a Champions League winner ffs. To compare either of them to Uche & Zeefuik beggars belief. Both big battering rams , but watching Uche trying to control the ball at times is laughable. No comparison whatsoever Zeefuik wasn't a battering ram but he was a clever player with a pedigree even if his physique let him down. He was miles better than Uche who can't get his head up for a minute to pass the ball. I do agree Bednar & Janny were far superior to what we're seeing now but we can't afford those kind of players any more. Uche is way behind all of these guys. Miles behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 18 minutes ago, NANOJAMBO said: Zeefuik wasn't a battering ram but he was a clever player with a pedigree even if his physique let him down. He was miles better than Uche who can't get his head up for a minute to pass the ball. I do agree Bednar & Janny were far superior to what we're seeing now but we can't afford those kind of players any more. Uche is way behind all of these guys. Miles behind. Zeefuik was a revelation and a very important and timely signing. Kudos to whoever scouted and signed him. However it's impossible to judge players from that season. Players, especially forwards, always seems to have so much time and space on the ball compared to the Premiership. And the goalies were dire. I don't think I've ever seen so many long-range goals from a Hearts team in one season. I did want us to sign him. He had power and an eye for goal but it's noticeable he's done nothing since. At least Sow proved he was a good player by doing well in the Premiership for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 6 hours ago, ToqueJambo said: Zeefuik also played for us against mostly part time defenders and terrible goalies in the Championship, so there's that. Uche would have also ripped up that league. I do agree Zeefuik seemed more of a goalscorer whereas Uche brings more to the team. I'd see the 2014/15 Zeefuik as a partner rather than alternative for Uche. Who were the part time teams that season? Not sure why we have a constant desire to undervalue what we did that season. For the alternative route see Dundee United, Hibs, Partick Thistle and Rangers. It was a brilliant achievement and the standout players, Walker, Sow & Paterson, were all standouts in the Premiership and subsequently got their moves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Ian Malcolm Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 It's not even a contest. Uche all day long. Zeefuik could finish but that was it and let's be honest, he got away with his physical condition against poor opposition. And they absolutely are not "similar players" btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandjambo3 Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Uche in a fight...... Zee in a burger eating contest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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