jumpship Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Only 13 miles away. Rosyth Dockyards. A Ministry of Defence spokesman said: ""The disposal of nuclear submarines is a complex and challenging undertaking. "We remain committed to the cost-effective de-fuelling and dismantling of all decommissioned nuclear submarines as soon as practically possible." https://news.sky.com/story/uks-decommissioned-nuclear-submarines-kept-in-storage-for-decades-11682779 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 £500million skooshed up the wall. None of the submarines taken out of service since 1980 have been decommissioned. None of the subs taken out of service since 2004 have even had the fuel rods taken out as the fuel disposal systems aren't good enough. It's almost as bad as when the Black Sea Fleet was left to rust away in harbour when the iron curtain fell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Surely someone somewhere must be thinking nuclear subs are a massive waste of money? They even waste money when they retire! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Pans Jambo said: Surely someone somewhere must be thinking nuclear subs are a massive waste of money? They even waste money when they retire! The are and were a deterrent. So far it’s worked therefore no money wasted. Decommisioning them is however a process that needs to be done properly. Doonray will take 50 years to decommission so it’s no surprise these subs will take some considerable time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, Dannie Boy said: The are and were a deterrent. So far it’s worked therefore no money wasted. Decommisioning them is however a process that needs to be done properly. Doonray will take 50 years to decommission so it’s no surprise these subs will take some considerable time. They're a loadapish mate. Nobody will want to invade these islands after May & her Tories are finished. Be better off invading Iceland. Cold war relic no longer fit for purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Pans Jambo said: They're a loadapish mate. Nobody will want to invade these islands after May & her Tories are finished. Be better off invading Iceland. Cold war relic no longer fit for purpose. A loadapish that did a job. Obviously you’d argue otherwise based on on your beliefs which you are entitled to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, Dannie Boy said: A loadapish that did a job. Obviously you’d argue otherwise based on on your beliefs which you are entitled to do. Did being the point IMO of course... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, Pans Jambo said: Did being the point IMO of course... Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trotter Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 21 minutes ago, Pans Jambo said: Cold war relic no longer fit for purpose. That's why they're being decommissioned Shirley? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Sadly these deterrents are still needed. https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/fighter-jets-scrambled-from-raf-base-in-scotland-for-second-time-in-a-week-1-4900711 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Folk still claiming that THA RUSSHUNS are going to invade the UK unless we have nukes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Cade said: Folk still claiming that THA RUSSHUNS are going to invade the UK unless we have nukes? Do you know differently? Do you know how the Russians think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Dannie Boy said: Sadly these deterrents are still needed. https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/fighter-jets-scrambled-from-raf-base-in-scotland-for-second-time-in-a-week-1-4900711 Big nato exercise in this area at the moment of course the Russian will test things, we will be doing the same to them. All part of the game nations play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, ToadKiller Dog said: Big nato exercise in this area at the moment of course the Russian will test things, we will be doing the same to them. All part of the game nations play. I agree. The last thing I want is Nuclear War or weapons. Having trained in the past to deal with these weapons and chemical warfare I’d rather we all got along fine. Unfortunately that’s not going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulpener Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 11 minutes ago, ToadKiller Dog said: Big nato exercise in this area at the moment of course the Russian will test things, we will be doing the same to them. All part of the game nations play. https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2019/03/19/b-52-bombers-are-flying-near-russian-and-chinese-waters-this-month/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 3 hours ago, Dannie Boy said: Sadly these deterrents are still needed. https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/fighter-jets-scrambled-from-raf-base-in-scotland-for-second-time-in-a-week-1-4900711 No theyre no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 4 hours ago, trotter said: That's why they're being decommissioned Shirley? Aye true but theyre also building new ones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, Pans Jambo said: No theyre no I your opinion but not in mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Anyone who thinks the Russians are not a threat to the UK are sadly wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Maroon Sailor said: Anyone who thinks the Russians are not a threat to the UK are sadly wrong. A nuclear threat though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 hour ago, AlphonseCapone said: A nuclear threat though? Yes They are developing all the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 The Yanks are more dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo, Goodbye Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKbDKsNsjac Reminds me of Yes Minister. The idea that anybody in Downing Street would actually go through with launching a nuke is ludicrous. How can you have a deterrent when using it would be akin to suicide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 11 hours ago, Maroon Sailor said: Yes They are developing all the time I'm not convinced. They've had nuclear weapons for 70 odd years and never used them. Russia lives in constant fear for its own safety, always has, and most of its behaviour can be explained by its desire to protect its borders with buffers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwindonJambo Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 6 hours ago, ri Alban said: The Yanks are more dangerous. Why ? They're far from perfect but I'd pick them over the Russians every day of the week. The latter are a bullying corrupt gangster controlled cleptocracy run by a self serving despot. His mate Trumpet man is no angel either, but we know he'll definitely be gone by 2025 at the latest. Murderous gangster Putin has a job for life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 We had a submarine expert over here for a while a few years ago too. Missed opportunity. (My understanding re a lot of the nuclear decommissioning work is they don't yet know how to do it 100% safely) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better call Saul Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 There will never be a nuclear war i.m.o And we all know why ! Us having nuclear weapons is a complete waste of money what have we deterred having them ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, Ferris Bueller said: There will never be a nuclear war i.m.o And we all know why ! Us having nuclear weapons is a complete waste of money what have we deterred having them ? Like a lot of things such as the Iraq war us having nuclear weapons is about supporting the USA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 5 hours ago, SwindonJambo said: Why ? They're far from perfect but I'd pick them over the Russians every day of the week. The latter are a bullying corrupt gangster controlled cleptocracy run by a self serving despot. His mate Trumpet man is no angel either, but we know he'll definitely be gone by 2025 at the latest. Murderous gangster Putin has a job for life. Who is the only country to attack another with nuclear weapons? Yes, you guessed it, America, twice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 On 3 April 2019 at 13:25, Dannie Boy said: The are and were a deterrent. So far it’s worked therefore no money wasted. Decommisioning them is however a process that needs to be done properly. Doonray will take 50 years to decommission so it’s no surprise these subs will take some considerable time. Didn't deter the Argentinians. Or the Iraqis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Boris said: Didn't deter the Argentinians. Or the Iraqis. Or the Taliban. Russians or Americans. Edited April 4, 2019 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, Boris said: Didn't deter the Argentinians. Or the Iraqis. They are not there to deter these countries, neither of which had these weapons as we now know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 (edited) This is what we should be doing all over the world. Let’s get in on. Feel free to join in? Edited April 4, 2019 by Dannie Boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 15 minutes ago, Boris said: Didn't deter the Argentinians. Or the Iraqis. When did Argentina or Iraq invade the UK ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwindonJambo Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 1 minute ago, ri Alban said: Who is the only country to attack another with nuclear weapons? Yes, you guessed it, America, twice! Unnecessary, but learnt from. Not repeated. It was 74 years ago. Do keep up. Please explain why you think Russia is less dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutley Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 35 minutes ago, Maroon Sailor said: When did Argentina or Iraq invade the UK ? Argentina was 1982 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, mutley said: Argentina was 1982 Where did they attack ? I was alive then and don't remember them invading us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better call Saul Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Maroon Sailor said: Where did they attack ? I was alive then and don't remember them invading us The invaded one of our islands . You must have remembered the news paper headline from back in the day ..."GOTCHA' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Americans said to be helping Saudis on road to nuclear capability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 26 minutes ago, Ferris Bueller said: The invaded one of our islands . You must have remembered the news paper headline from back in the day ..."GOTCHA' That wasn't the UK was it. The aim of that conflict was to reclaim the islands not to nuke Buenos Aires Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 4 hours ago, Maroon Sailor said: Where did they attack ? I was alive then and don't remember them invading us Looks like you're attempting to take over the mantle as WUM-in-Chief. They invaded one of our oversea territories, not the UK itself, as you know well. You could have just said that instead of playing the fool, but then again there is something in the air these days... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 1 hour ago, redjambo said: Looks like you're attempting to take over the mantle as WUM-in-Chief. They invaded one of our oversea territories, not the UK itself, as you know well. You could have just said that instead of playing the fool, but then again there is something in the air these days... What you on about ya spoon ! Red Jambo - Corbynite are we ? The argument is that it acts as a deterrent. That deterrent is to safeguard the UK. When was the last time Britain got invaded ? The Argies ? The Iraqis ? Eh Naw There's enough Wums on here pal so no need for me to add to the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 1 hour ago, redjambo said: Looks like you're attempting to take over the mantle as WUM-in-Chief. They invaded one of our oversea territories, not the UK itself, as you know well. You could have just said that instead of playing the fool, but then again there is something in the air these days... 13 minutes ago, Maroon Sailor said: What you on about ya spoon ! Red Jambo - Corbynite are we ? The argument is that it acts as a deterrent. That deterrent is to safeguard the UK. When was the last time Britain got invaded ? The Argies ? The Iraqis ? Eh Naw There's enough Wums on here pal so no need for me to add to the list. I like the two of you as posters go on here, but ‘ya spoon’ gave me a right good laugh...sorry rj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 1 hour ago, luckyBatistuta said: I like the two of you as posters go on here, but ‘ya spoon’ gave me a right good laugh...sorry rj Don't worry, it made me laugh too. I'm finally getting JKB right when I start getting called a "spoon". I've arrived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Just now, redjambo said: Don't worry, it made me laugh too. I'm finally getting JKB right when I start getting called a "spoon". I've arrived. Phew, for a second there,I thought you might not be talking to me...ya spoon!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Maroon Sailor said: What you on about ya spoon ! Red Jambo - Corbynite are we ? The argument is that it acts as a deterrent. That deterrent is to safeguard the UK. When was the last time Britain got invaded ? The Argies ? The Iraqis ? Eh Naw There's enough Wums on here pal so no need for me to add to the list. I detest Corbyn - good enough for you? The deterrent is to safeguard the UK, our possessions, our interests, and further afield, our allies. If the Russians decided to drop a tactical nuke on Gibraltar, I don't think we would be "Oh, that's ok, you haven't actually attacked the UK itself". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 1 minute ago, luckyBatistuta said: Phew, for a second there,I thought you might not be talking to me...ya spoon!!! Ya zoomer!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 1 minute ago, redjambo said: Ya zoomer!!! Well played ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Just now, luckyBatistuta said: Well played ? Just getting into the spirit. I assume you're on the night shift tonight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, redjambo said: Just getting into the spirit. I assume you're on the night shift tonight? I am indeed, sitting on a rank. One more job and I’ll probably be done for the night. How you still up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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