Section Q Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Saw this on one of the news portals...... https://www.rangersnews.uk/news/could-hearts-john-souttar-ease-rangers-impending-defensive-concerns/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboveg Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 A couple of million......aye good one! If he wants to improve its a move down south for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraggle Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Almost laughable that article, but then it's written by a fan who clearly still believes Rangers are a "step up" or even have the "couple of million £s" to make it a "right deal for both clubs". Seen these type of articles before from fans trying to pretend they are journalist, nothing to worry about apart from the inane ramblings of a halfwit Hun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthomas Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Fraggle said: Almost laughable that article, but then it's written by a fan who clearly still believes Rangers are a "step up" or even have the "couple of million £s" to make it a "right deal for both clubs". Seen these type of articles before from fans trying to pretend they are journalist, nothing to worry about apart from the inane ramblings of a halfwit Hun. Would like to think Souttar is smarter than that . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubyruby Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Is Lee Wallace still a rangers player? Loyal to them for some time then shat on big time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, rubyruby said: Is Lee Wallace still a rangers player? Loyal to them for some time then shat on big time. Yeah, he’s still there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restonbabe Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Good, glad they are. He just signed a contract extension and would require a hefty fee for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 58 minutes ago, rubyruby said: Is Lee Wallace still a rangers player? Loyal to them for some time then shat on big time. That's the Rangers way though. They've done it to everyone who poses a threat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsalldothebeattie Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Nothing to worry about. They can’t afford what we would be looking for, for him. He will move south when he leaves us not go to that joke of a club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Adorable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 11 minutes ago, letsalldothebeattie said: Nothing to worry about. They can’t afford what we would be looking for, for him. He will move south when he leaves us not go to that joke of a club Thing is knowing Rangers they will offer a fraction of his true value just to unsettle him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Shillyshally Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Good to see the old Rangers arrogance and sense of entitlement is alive and kicking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Signed with us for another 3 years. They can't afford him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMJ_1874 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 They really think they’re a big club and players should be privileged to play for them. An arrogant club with another arrogant manager. I firmly believe the demise of Scottish football started with that arrogant prick Souness in 85/86. That’s when the rot set in and was continued by every other manager since. Wee Dick Advocaat certainly over spent mintys millions that he really didn’t have and 10 years on from that the megalomaniac bailed out and scuttled the ibrox ship. I guess there is a god after all. That was the one good thing that happened to them. Disgusting club, disgusting fans. Would hate to see soapy wear that shirt. Their sense of entitlement leads them to believe they can snap up whoever they want on the cheap. I’d rather soapy left down south for free than to deal with these arrogant, cheating bar stewards. A few million....not like the hum to under value a player now is it. If Tore Andre Flo was worth 12 million nearly 20 years ago then their current valuation of JS would seem like loose change in today’s market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Marvin said: Thing is knowing Rangers they will offer a fraction of his true value just to unsettle him. Nothing can unsettle him. He's too cool for that caper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Really hope they go bust again. Also, my hatred for Celtic is beyond compare. I have nothing but a burning hatred for them and the entire 'Celtic family' but I want them to beat Rangers by 10 on Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelgeJambo Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Wallace must be robbing them blind Good lad keep it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 £5 million to anyone down south. To a direct rival, £7 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salvo69 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 My rangers fan is adamant that Souttar is going to rangers and placed a £20 bet that he goes in the summer, don’t know why he was so confident but there is £20 going to Big Hearts when he doesnt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 It would be a step up for him, financially and career-wise, but he is capable of stepping up much further than that lot. It's just the usual old firm chat to unsettle players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Panzee Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Nookie Bear said: It would be a step up for him, financially and career-wise, but he is capable of stepping up much further than that lot. It's just the usual old firm chat to unsettle players. career-wise? if he went there I think it would plateau. a move to the EPL / Championship in england puts him up against far stronger opponents and superior facilities and backroom staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 17 minutes ago, Jim Panzee said: career-wise? if he went there I think it would plateau. a move to the EPL / Championship in england puts him up against far stronger opponents and superior facilities and backroom staff. Depends on how he plays it. He would be in Europe every year, possibly competing for the title and cups and really putting himself in the shop window for a better move down south. He could just as easily join an English team and find himself stuck on the bench for 2 years or, if you join the wrong team at the wrong time, you end up relegated or stuck in the Championship. I don;t think he will go there (rangers) though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie1902 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 We always bend over for the rangers. Take 2/3 mill with a sell on fee and lafferty on a season loan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 38 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: It would be a step up for him, financially and career-wise, but he is capable of stepping up much further than that lot. It's just the usual old firm chat to unsettle players. Career wise? It's hardly a leap atm. Rangers will end up a distant second and win nothing, again. They will need a total rebuild in January and are running at a massive lose. They aren't out of sight of Aberdeen or a resurgent Hearts, hibs yet. They'll like be closer to 3rd than 1st for the short term at least. European run is also 50/50 at best. Financially wise, no doubt they'll pay more, but a Derby or the likes would pay even more, so even then he'll likely have better options. Think you are in awe of old rangers pulling power tbh. In you're not "rangers minded" there are better options for a decent footballer. I'd say celtic was a more likely destination tbh. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 I think are kidding themselves it isn't a step up, however it's a smaller step than he should take. He needs to get fit again and back in form then look down south, reality is Rangers can't afford what he is worth and championship teams can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 10 minutes ago, Olly Lee's left boot said: Career wise? It's hardly a leap atm. Rangers will end up a distant second and win nothing, again. They will need a total rebuild in January and are running at a massive lose. They aren't out of sight of Aberdeen or a resurgent Hearts, hibs yet. They'll like be closer to 3rd than 1st for the short term at least. European run is also 50/50 at best. Financially wise, no doubt they'll pay more, but a Derby or the likes would pay even more, so even then he'll likely have better options. Think you are in awe of old rangers pulling power tbh. In you're not "rangers minded" there are better options for a decent footballer. I'd say celtic was a more likely destination tbh. ? We probably need to wait to see how next season pans out for them both tbh - celtic have an average manager and face a period of uncertainty and there is no telling how Gerrard will do in his second season either. But, no matter how you look at it, it's a step up from Hearts. I'm not saying it's as big a leap as it would have been 10 years ago, but it's still advancing his career. If i was advising him, i would advise him to get his head down and wait until at least the end of next season. Quality is always noticed and i have no doubt English clubs are keeping an eye on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874Gorgie1874 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Rangers fans still think the club have the same amount of money and drawing power as they used to have. Best ignore their drivel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbojambo Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 5 hours ago, rubyruby said: Is Lee Wallace still a rangers player? Loyal to them for some time then shat on big time. I wouldn't be surprised to see him back next season with a point to prove.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doc Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 The equivalent of me and my mate ‘discussing’ Lucy Verasamy. Difference being we know it ain’t happening whereas these clowns think they stand a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts_fan Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 In a career as promising as John Souttar's, "the next step" after Hearts is not to the team formerly known as Rangers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck berrys hairline Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Rangers fans think they've won 54 titles in seven years! Your gonna listen to their opinion on this ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Nookie Bear said: We probably need to wait to see how next season pans out for them both tbh - celtic have an average manager and face a period of uncertainty and there is no telling how Gerrard will do in his second season either. But, no matter how you look at it, it's a step up from Hearts. I'm not saying it's as big a leap as it would have been 10 years ago, but it's still advancing his career. If i was advising him, i would advise him to get his head down and wait until at least the end of next season. Quality is always noticed and i have no doubt English clubs are keeping an eye on him. All fair points. I still think he'd be a cracking celtic player. Hate to say it but his style would suit them 100% ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, 1874Gorgie1874 said: Rangers fans still think the club have the same amount of money and drawing power as they used to have. Best ignore their drivel. This time every year they do a wish list of signings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 15 minutes ago, Olly Lee's left boot said: All fair points. I still think he'd be a cracking celtic player. Hate to say it but his style would suit them 100% ? Would be too easy for him there. 85 minutes strolling about, giving easy passes to the midfield, and perhaps defend a couple of speculative crosses and aimless punts from the opposition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDSK Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Soapy strikes me as a guy with his head screwed on. He wouldn’t give them the time of day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
132goals1958 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 When will these clowns realise our Balance Sheet is a lot healthier than theirs. They are obsessed with stopping 10 in a row. and in pursuit of this mythical landmark are galloping up a blind alley.Outside of the two vile institutions no one gives a sh@t as such a monopoly in league titles only highlights a situation that has and will continue to be driven by a cultural malaise that is shameful and unique to our country. The media will no doubt be out in force labeling this weeks fixture as the greatest derby in the world and some wonder as to why we are becoming more of a laughing stock than ever before. On the subject of Souttar I am sure even an English Champion side will come up with more than the relative buttons and bolts that Newco can offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Won't being in the Scotland Squad have at least halved his value, I mean it's fortunate he didn't play but being involved in that shambles must have an impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mollo Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 ? “He knows the Scottish Premiership and at 22, this might be the perfect stage of his career to take the next step” He’s a great prospect and has a good career ahead - so why do they think a move INSIDE the premiership is a step UP? Its only so if average players do so in terms of wages. Or players like KL who have decided that football isn’t as important as money for the twilight of their career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 48 minutes ago, Mollo said: ? “He knows the Scottish Premiership and at 22, this might be the perfect stage of his career to take the next step” He’s a great prospect and has a good career ahead - so why do they think a move INSIDE the premiership is a step UP? Its only so if average players do so in terms of wages. Or players like KL who have decided that football isn’t as important as money for the twilight of their career. Was moving from Everton to Man U a step up for Rooney? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, 132goals1958 said: When will these clowns realise our Balance Sheet is a lot healthier than theirs. They are obsessed with stopping 10 in a row. and in pursuit of this mythical landmark are galloping up a blind alley.Outside of the two vile institutions no one gives a sh@t as such a monopoly in league titles only highlights a situation that has and will continue to be driven by a cultural malaise that is shameful and unique to our country. The media will no doubt be out in force labeling this weeks fixture as the greatest derby in the world and some wonder as to why we are becoming more of a laughing stock than ever before. On the subject of Souttar I am sure even an English Champion side will come up with more than the relative buttons and bolts that Newco can offer. Rangers will get £20m for Morelos so don’t think the Castle Grey Skull balance sheet will look too bad over the summer. They will also have revenue from selling another 45000 season tickets, 2nd place prize money and Europa League revenue. On top of that they are doing a debt for equity swap with existing creditors to wipe out their debt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 22 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: Rangers will get £20m for Morelos so don’t think the Castle Grey Skull balance sheet will look too bad over the summer. They will also have revenue from selling another 45000 season tickets, 2nd place prize money and Europa League revenue. On top of that they are doing a debt for equity swap with existing creditors to wipe out their debt. The money they are making isn't the issue. It's the money the spend or need to spend that is. To catch celtic, they need to spend more than them on about a third of thier income. No point in making £1b if £1.5b goes out the other end, year after year. They won't be going bust soon I would not have thought , but if celtc get ten, things will get interesting on how the fans react and how they go forward from there. Be interesting if Aberdeen or US can knock them down to third again as well next season. Not out of the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, Olly Lee's left boot said: The money they are making isn't the issue. It's the money the spend or need to spend that is. To catch celtic, they need to spend more than them on about a third of thier income. No point in making £1b if £1.5b goes out the other end, year after year. They won't be going bust soon I would not have thought , but if celtc get ten, things will get interesting on how the fans react and how they go forward from there. Be interesting if Aberdeen or US can knock them down to third again as well next season. Not out of the question. The comparison is Rangers to Hearts in terms of finances, not Celtic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: The comparison is Rangers to Hearts in terms of finances, not Celtic. Rangers can pay more than us, don't think anyone is debating that, are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 20 minutes ago, Olly Lee's left boot said: Rangers can pay more than us, don't think anyone is debating that, are they? Aye, above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
132goals1958 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr Elwood P said: Rangers will get £20m for Morelos so don’t think the Castle Grey Skull balance sheet will look too bad over the summer. They will also have revenue from selling another 45000 season tickets, 2nd place prize money and Europa League revenue. On top of that they are doing a debt for equity swap with existing creditors to wipe out their debt. Doubt they will get anywhere near 20m for Morelos With regard to their balance sheet it is noticeable they did not publish it with their interim un -audited Profit and Loss.Think I will hold fire until the accounts are published as recent sign offs have included a going concern uncertainty which although very unlikely to materialise still might mean the hole in the balance sheet is only smaller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 17 minutes ago, 132goals1958 said: Doubt they will get anywhere near 20m for Morelos With regard to their balance sheet it is noticeable they did not publish it with their interim un -audited Profit and Loss.Think I will hold fire until the accounts are published as recent sign offs have included a going concern uncertainty which although very unlikely to materialise still might mean the hole in the balance sheet is only smaller. Morelos has signed two new contracts this season and is getting game time for the Columbian national team. £20m is easily achievable, especially if he fulfills his ambition of playing in the EPL. All of Rangers creditors are fans of the club who appear willing to swap money owed for shares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
132goals1958 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: Morelos has signed two new contracts this season and is getting game time for the Columbian national team. £20m is easily achievable, especially if he fulfills his ambition of playing in the EPL. All of Rangers creditors are fans of the club who appear willing to swap money owed for shares. Time will tell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 36 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: Morelos has signed two new contracts this season and is getting game time for the Columbian national team. £20m is easily achievable, especially if he fulfills his ambition of playing in the EPL. All of Rangers creditors are fans of the club who appear willing to swap money owed for shares. The last statement is true, but for how long and for how much? Celtic get to ten and/ or Rangers are still in the mire with the likes of Aberdeen and hopefully us I think thier patience and more importantly thier finances will run short. At the current rate that could see them £70/£80m in the red as well when celtic do get ten and the shit hits the fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, Olly Lee's left boot said: The last statement is true, but for how long and for how much? Celtic get to ten and/ or Rangers are still in the mire with the likes of Aberdeen and hopefully us I think thier patience and more importantly thier finances will run short. At the current rate that could see them £70/£80m in the red as well when celtic do get ten and the shit hits the fan. A debt for equity swap means that the current debt, owed to creditors who have provided soft loans, will be converted into shares. That means they won’t have any debt never mind £70m. They won’t get credit from any major bank or finance provider given their previous administration and subsequent liquidation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Just now, Mr Elwood P said: A debt for equity swap means that the current debt, owed to creditors who have provided soft loans, will be converted into shares. That means they won’t have any debt never mind £70m. They won’t get credit from any major bank or finance provider given their previous administration and subsequent liquidation. Only if it is all their debt. I wouldn't be trusting that, but he ho. I don't think rangers financal set up is sustainable going forward. I also think if celtic get ten, there will be a big shift in the support. None of this is relevant to Souttar, they could still sign him for x £ and pay him £20k a week atm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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