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Cambo

Seeing Sunderland flying high in league one, arguably a better standard than majority of Scottish premiership and then watching a wonderful Wolves side tonight, you can't help but consider two ex Hearts employees are key to what these sides are doing. Meanwhile we are subject to one abject performance after another by crap players who appear to have no ability, little application and desire to get results for our great club. Seems to me that those making decisions at our club are out their depth and wholesale changes are needed. In short, we had talented coaches at club whose ideas obviously clashed with levein and co and look who is flourishing now. Certainly not us.

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Russ1977

Surely you not suggesting we should have kept cathro. Did he not have the worst managerial record in our history. 

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Artful Dodger

:rofl:

 

 

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been here before

There's some shite spouted on here after a defeat. There's some hysterjcal shite piated tonight.

 

Then there's this thread.

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Thommo414

Cathro at Wolves isn't the manager, nor do Hearts have anywhere near the money that Wolves have managed to spend. If this had just been a thread about Jack Ross going onto better things then maybe, not this though... 

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Cambo

How many of our current employees, players or coaches, would attract interest from Premier League clubs? It was a disaster, yes but perhaps we should look at the bigger picture and ponder why, as the guy clearly has something as does jack ross. Our current cohort is bereft of any talent.

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Cambo

Merely stating we had two good football people, clearly with something to offer and now we have talentless players and coaches, who will go nowhere. Soutar apart.

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Jamhammer
3 minutes ago, Cambo said:

Merely stating we had two good football people, clearly with something to offer and now we have talentless players and coaches, who will go nowhere. Soutar apart.

Course the players Cathro brought in were awesome

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Section Q
12 minutes ago, Cambo said:

Seeing Sunderland flying high in league one, arguably a better standard than majority of Scottish premiership and then watching a wonderful Wolves side tonight, you can't help but consider two ex Hearts employees are key to what these sides are doing. Meanwhile we are subject to one abject performance after another by crap players who appear to have no ability, little application and desire to get results for our great club. Seems to me that those making decisions at our club are out their depth and wholesale changes are needed. In short, we had talented coaches at club whose ideas obviously clashed with levein and co and look who is flourishing now. Certainly not us.

Cathro is not the Wolves manager. Not sure what he does there but he is not the reason for their success.

Just a f..king idiot who once worked for us.... !

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The Doc

 There’s many sticks available to beat CL with.

 

Cathro being emptied certainly isn’t one.

 

Ridiculously out his depth. 

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Cruyff Turn

Cathro is obviously good coach/good analyst. Never a manager in a month of Sunday’s and it was a huge mistake to employ him as such. 

Jack Ross probably would have been Hearts manager had he not been getting happy endings from the physio. 

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cunny1874

Cathro is not a manager but is a outstanding coach look who he’s work under and clubs he’s been at

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Inch Hearts

Can’t it ever be questioned why Jack Ross was emptied by the club?

 

Hes came out before and said it was because him and Levein didn’t have the same footballing philosophy.

 

Him being the chosen one then leaving looks like a complete disaster now.  

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Dusk_Till_Dawn

Cathro is not and never will be a manager. Cannot manage players.

 

isn’t Jack Ross a bit of a touchy subject?

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Cruickshank for Scotland
1 minute ago, Cruyff Turn said:

Cathro is obviously good coach/good analyst. Never a manager in a month of Sunday’s and it was a huge mistake to employ him as such. 

Jack Ross probably would have been Hearts manager had he not been getting happy endings from the physio. 

 

Ironic if Levein bumped Ross for having a bit of hows yer father with a staff member....     

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ShedBoy
1 minute ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said:

Cathro is not and never will be a manager. Cannot manage players.

 

isn’t Jack Ross a bit of a touchy subject?

 

Yep

 

See Peter Kaye bacon slicer joke

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been here before
4 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said:

Cathro is obviously good coach/good analyst. Never a manager in a month of Sunday’s and it was a huge mistake to employ him as such. 

Jack Ross probably would have been Hearts manager had he not been getting happy endings from the physio. 

 

Wasnt it allegedly the Dr?

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Cruyff Turn
6 minutes ago, been here before said:

 

Wasnt it allegedly the Dr?

remembered her name and googled her, you’re right she was a Doctor in Sports Science. 

Edited by Cruyff Turn

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Cambo
10 minutes ago, Jamhammer said:

Course the players Cathro brought in were awesome

And of course current signings have been of such a high standard. 

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Cruyff Turn
3 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said:

 

Ironic if Levein bumped Ross for having a bit of hows yer father with a staff member....     

Who knows the reasons why he left. 

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BigAlim

Ian Cathro is statistically the worst manager in our history, oversaw two transfers in which we completely ripped apart a team that was sitting in second place on the back of a third place finish. If it wasn't for the games before he became manager then we would have been sitting in 9th at the end of that season with international footballers with bundesliga/ligue 1 experience etc. 

 

The boy set us back years and Levein had to pick up the pieces. Levein has done well to stop the rot and instill the level of professionalism that he has done, regardless I believe that he's taken us as far as he ever will now and its time for a change. But Cathro ffs? Had the authority of a mouse and I haven't even gone into his league Cup group escapades or the worst Derby performance from us in decades 

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Bongo 1874
11 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said:

remembered her name and googled her, you’re right she was a Doctor in Sports Science. 

Who was it? 

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Cruyff Turn
Just now, Bongo 1874 said:

Who was it? 

 

Someone that did a job like this.

 

Allegedly.

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Cruickshank for Scotland
12 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said:

Who knows the reasons why he left. 

 

Indeed 

 

If we lost Ross because he did not agree with Levein’s football philosophy then we may have lost the wrong guy!!

 

If he was sacked because he was having an affair with a member of staff then short memories were at play!!

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BarneyBattles
38 minutes ago, Artful Dodger said:

:rofl:

 

 

 

The only possible response to that nonsense. Glanced over the first sentence then stopped. Utter pish. 

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Nucky Thompson
5 minutes ago, BigAlim said:

Ian Cathro is statistically the worst manager in our history, oversaw two transfers in which we completely ripped apart a team that was sitting in second place on the back of a third place finish. If it wasn't for the games before he became manager then we would have been sitting in 9th at the end of that season with international footballers with bundesliga/ligue 1 experience etc. 

 

The boy set us back years and Levein had to pick up the pieces. Levein has done well to stop the rot and instill the level of professionalism that he has done, regardless I believe that he's taken us as far as he ever will now and its time for a change. But Cathro ffs? Had the authority of a mouse and I haven't even gone into his league Cup group escapades or the worst Derby performance from us in decades 

The reason we had Cathro as manager is because of the egomaniac who is manager now.

This prick has had a free reign for too long

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Bongo 1874
5 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said:

 

Someone that did a job like this.

 

Allegedly.

Jesus! 

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Hearts1975
32 minutes ago, Cambo said:

How many of our current employees, players or coaches, would attract interest from Premier League clubs? It was a disaster, yes but perhaps we should look at the bigger picture and ponder why, as the guy clearly has something as does jack ross. Our current cohort is bereft of any talent.

Cathro was left to get on with things full stop 

 

just because u are supposedly a good coach doesn’t mean u will be a good manager 

 

jack ross never managed us at all so on the basis of what u are saying, even although I am seething at the Hamilton result, you’re post has the same meaning to me as what a hippos arse does - I don’t get it at all 

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Cruickshank for Scotland
5 minutes ago, Hearts1975 said:

Cathro was left to get on with things full stop 

 

just because u are supposedly a good coach doesn’t mean u will be a good manager 

 

jack ross never managed us at all so on the basis of what u are saying, even although I am seething at the Hamilton result, you’re post has the same meaning to me as what a hippos arse does - I don’t get it at all 

 

Ditto

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Mauricio Pinilla

Sunderland flying high in league 1?

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Cruickshank for Scotland
12 minutes ago, Mauricio Pinilla said:

Sunderland flying high in league 1?

 

Something tells me Sunderland would give our current team a right doing!

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luckydug
1 hour ago, Cambo said:

How many of our current employees, players or coaches, would attract interest from Premier League clubs? It was a disaster, yes but perhaps we should look at the bigger picture and ponder why, as the guy clearly has something as does jack ross. Our current cohort is bereft of any talent.

Jack Ross is likely to get the bullet if Sunderland don't get up.

They are in League one remember and their fans would expect them to be winning that League.

You should have picked a better example for your rant.☺

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Hearts1975
31 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

The reason we had Cathro as manager is because of the egomaniac who is manager now.

This prick has had a free reign for too long

Even if u feel that Levein is making an arse of things at the helm, given his playing history with the club it shouldn’t constitute anyone levelling a comment around him being a prick 

 

totally disrespectful and utterly distasteful in my opinion 

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Mauricio Pinilla
3 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said:

 

Something tells me Sunderland would give our current team a right doing!

 

Given their average wage is about 10k a week and they recently bought a striker for 4million I'd expect them to. They should be dominating like psg in that league and they're struggling to break into the top 2. Luton Town are above them. Jack Ross is clearly Fergie mkII tho.

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Inch Hearts
1 hour ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said:

Cathro is not and never will be a manager. Cannot manage players.

 

isn’t Jack Ross a bit of a touchy subject?

Like Mr Hearts putting his cock above his job with the Reebok rep?

 

Ross has said he got sacked because he didn’t get on with Levein. 

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soonbe110
1 hour ago, Cambo said:

Seeing Sunderland flying high in league one, arguably a better standard than majority of Scottish premiership and then watching a wonderful Wolves side tonight, you can't help but consider two ex Hearts employees are key to what these sides are doing. Meanwhile we are subject to one abject performance after another by crap players who appear to have no ability, little application and desire to get results for our great club. Seems to me that those making decisions at our club are out their depth and wholesale changes are needed. In short, we had talented coaches at club whose ideas obviously clashed with levein and co and look who is flourishing now. Certainly not us.

Post of the season. Just so far from being accurate that it must be a joke. Clearly someone who hasn’t on here for long. 

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Jim Panzee
1 hour ago, Jamhammer said:

Course the players Cathro brought in were awesome

 

"Course"

 

lol

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obua
17 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said:

 

Something tells me Sunderland would give our current team a right doing!

Probably but they are a massive team ( my arse ) underachievers.com

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soonbe110
1 hour ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said:

 

Ironic if Levein bumped Ross for having a bit of hows yer father with a staff member....     

Not Levein

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Walter Bishop

Steve Crawford doing ok aswell. 

 

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Cruyff Turn
5 minutes ago, Walter Bishop said:

Steve Crawford doing ok aswell. 

 

Yep, manager of the month for February. 

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luckydug

Craig Levein could fund his pension if he wanted to get his lawyers on to folk on social media.

Not content to just criticise his performance as Hearts manager folk are descending into personal and libelous remarks.

Not just on this thread either.

People who think they can hide behind a keyboard  are cowards.

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Walter Bishop
Just now, luckydug said:

Craig Levein could fund his pension if he wanted to get his lawyers on to folk on social media.

Not content to just criticise his performance as Hearts manager folk are descending into personal and libelous remarks.

Not just on this thread either.

People who think they can hide behind a keyboard  are cowards.

Really? Can you give an example? 

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luckydug
4 minutes ago, Walter Bishop said:

Really? Can you give an example? 

Well there is one glaring example on this thread and scores on other threads from posters who haven't yet soiled this thread.

Criticism is fair enough but some people are going over the score.

 

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Walter Bishop
2 minutes ago, luckydug said:

Well there is one glaring example on this thread and scores on other threads from posters who haven't yet soiled this thread.

Criticism is fair enough but some people are going over the score.

 

Totally disagree. 

 

Nothing any worse than Leveins public destruction of Vanecek, the guy he had just handed a huge contract on very good wages.

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NANOJAMBO
17 minutes ago, luckydug said:

Craig Levein could fund his pension if he wanted to get his lawyers on to folk on social media.

Not content to just criticise his performance as Hearts manager folk are descending into personal and libelous remarks.

Not just on this thread either.

People who think they can hide behind a keyboard  are cowards.

What  a load of garbage. The same garbage that's served up on here by those who lazily define critics as "haters". Fact is, everyone wants CL to succeed. 

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luckydug
4 minutes ago, Walter Bishop said:

Totally disagree. 

 

Nothing any worse than Leveins public destruction of Vanecek, the guy he had just handed a huge contract on very good wages.

Well we'll just have to agree to disagree but the day will come when the law will catch up with the keyboard warriors.

I'm talking generally now.

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NANOJAMBO
1 minute ago, luckydug said:

Well we'll just have to agree to disagree but the day will come when the law will catch up with the keyboard warriors.

I'm talking generally now.

Stop talking nonsense. There's no libel on here and if there was the admins would be all over it. 

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brunoatemyhamster

Said this about Cathro when we let him go. 

Alex Miller. 

Hell turn up in the dugout of a top team in a top game and everyone watching will say the same thing "WTF is he doing there?"

He obviously very talented at something we didn't want him to do,or didn't let him do. 

Speak volumes about our Director of Football/Manager. 

He took his bullet

 

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SectionG

Can only really judge people on what they do whilst at the club, that’s why they either stay with the club or move on. There are reasons these 2 have moved on, not that that belittles their achievements since, but neither were the right fit for the club.

 

On the other hand another person involved in that Wolves victory tonight, Matt Doherty realised just after full time on 19/05/12 that Hibs were not the right fit for him and declared it to that Irish lad interviewing the players, subsequently his career is now on the rise.

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