132goals1958 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Wham Bam Austin McCann said: Tbh i'm the same. Aren't they about 9th in the league? A bit meh tbh but might be decent cover. They have the same goal difference as us but conceded 4 fewer which suggests their defence is the strongest part of the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fila Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Might be a really decent signing, certainly been strong at the back this season, they are very hard to score against Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
151 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 19 minutes ago, 132goals1958 said: They have the same goal difference as us but conceded 4 fewer which suggests their defence is the strongest part of the team. Fair enough. As i said will be decent cover at worst, might end up being a future Hearts captain at best. People with greater football knowledge than I, have decided he is fit for Hearts so i'm happy with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthomas Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 46 minutes ago, graygo said: Got you, not always obvious when in written form. True (not sarcasm) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DalryJambo Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 12 hours ago, cosanostra said: Terrific signing. A ball playing centre half. Long term replacement for Berra. Chris Cadden next please Sorry to say I think he’ll be the replacement for Souttar. But if we get him in on a free and sell Souttar for good money then it’ll be a good bit of business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Morgan Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 This is exactly the type of signing we should be making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthomas Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 1 hour ago, DalryJambo said: Sorry to say I think he’ll be the replacement for Souttar. But if we get him in on a free and sell Souttar for good money then it’ll be a good bit of business. Perhaps but we may get another season out of Souttar . Extended contract means we can , hopefully , wait for the right price . Think we would be looking/signing Halkett with or without Souttar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Get the penalties sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 15 hours ago, fila said: Might be a really decent signing, certainly been strong at the back this season, they are very hard to score against He gets in amongst the goals as well. I think this is a very positive move by Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagey Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 56 minutes ago, Pans Jambo said: He gets in amongst the goals as well. I think this is a very positive move by Hearts. Sure I saw on another thread that he started out as a center forward? Attacking from the back - good thinking boss ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famous 1874 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Takes pens too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Ian Malcolm Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 We're not going to replace Souttar with Halkett. Totally different types of defender. Levein has repeatedly said Souttar is vital as he starts a lot of our attacks. Halkett has an entirely different skill set. We also have three CBs signed up for next season. Simple maths means one in doesn't mean someone is on the way out. If someone offers daft money for Souttar then aye, but this isn't succession planning for when he leaves. He'll be here for a bit yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 We have 5 CH’s at the moment.....Hughes and Shaugnessy will leave and, assuming Halkett signs, that takes us up to 4 CH’s which sounds about right to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Noticed a few people of a Rangers persuasion suggesting they come in an "hijack the deal". I honestly think they are rivalling Hibs as the biggest comedy club in the SPL. Gerrard, in terms of investment has taken them backwards from Warburton. They have overspent and underachieved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 51 minutes ago, Dr Ian Malcolm said: We're not going to replace Souttar with Halkett. Totally different types of defender. Levein has repeatedly said Souttar is vital as he starts a lot of our attacks. Halkett has an entirely different skill set. We also have three CBs signed up for next season. Simple maths means one in doesn't mean someone is on the way out. If someone offers daft money for Souttar then aye, but this isn't succession planning for when he leaves. He'll be here for a bit yet. What are the main differences in attributes between the two? I’m not that familiar with Halkett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 13 minutes ago, wigwam123 said: Noticed a few people of a Rangers persuasion suggesting they come in an "hijack the deal". I honestly think they are rivalling Hibs as the biggest comedy club in the SPL. Gerrard, in terms of investment has taken them backwards from Warburton. They have overspent and underachieved. How times have changed if Rangers are focused on "hijacking" deals for Livingston players. Remember when Rangers were going to sign Ronaldo... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inch Hearts Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Rangers want him. It’s about to be reported and he’s a hun. Let’s hope this gets done ASAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, Inch Hearts said: Rangers want him. It’s about to be reported and he’s a hun. Let’s hope this gets done ASAP. Really. Haha. In the old days they'd be after Souttar or Berra not our back-up for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, Inch Hearts said: Rangers want him. It’s about to be reported and he’s a hun. Let’s hope this gets done ASAP. If there is any truth in that then that's it as far as we are concerned. It dies look like his agent is sniffing about for a better deal . Simply put if Rangers are in for him he'll be going there , unfortunately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Not if he’s already committed to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCrae Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 24 minutes ago, 1874robbo said: Not if he’s already committed to us. You can walk away from a pre contract. It’s not binding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, McCrae said: You can walk away from a pre contract. It’s not binding. Very rarely hear of it though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsofgold Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 1 minute ago, McCrae said: You can walk away from a pre contract. It’s not binding. Not always. It's can be a legally enforceable document. However, the chances are you would let the player go (Remember Richard Brittain shafting Ross County). No use having an unhappy player at pre-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsofgold Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 https://www.blakemorgan.co.uk/training-knowledge/features-and-articles/enforceability-pre-contracts-football/ They are a bit of a legal minefield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackshades Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Heartsofgold said: Not always. It's can be a legally enforceable document. However, the chances are you would let the player go (Remember Richard Brittain shafting Ross County). No use having an unhappy player at pre-season. He signed for st Johnstone then changed his mind and went back to county Edited March 14, 2019 by Blackshades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbee647 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 1 hour ago, ToqueJambo said: How times have changed if Rangers are focused on "hijacking" deals for Livingston players. Remember when Rangers were going to sign Ronaldo... ? 56 minutes ago, 1874robbo said: Not if he’s already committed to us. 31 minutes ago, McCrae said: You can walk away from a pre contract. It’s not binding. Alan McGregor had agreed a contract to sign with us last pre season, however when Rangers came calling at the 11th hour he was only going to one club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsofgold Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, jbee647 said: Alan McGregor had agreed a contract to sign with us last pre season, however when Rangers came calling at the 11th hour he was only going to one club Did he sign or verbally agree to sign. There's the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rods Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Hopefully get this over the line cracking signing and the type we should be making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbee647 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 39 minutes ago, Heartsofgold said: Did he sign or verbally agree to sign. There's the difference. 39 minutes ago, Heartsofgold said: Did he sign or verbally agree to sign. There's the difference. Verbal agreement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 1 hour ago, jbee647 said: Alan McGregor had agreed a contract to sign with us last pre season, however when Rangers came calling at the 11th hour he was only going to one club Pretty sure it was all just rumours if I remember correctly. dont ever remember hearts or McGregor coming out and saying he’d agreed to join us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle1874 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Craig now saying if he gets the players he wants on longer deals then he only needs to add 2-3 creative players a think it’s important to understand That our manager knows we need players that will change games in our favour/ capitalise when we are on top I personally Feel that wee have a man In charge that will ultimately get it right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbee647 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 8 hours ago, 1874robbo said: Pretty sure it was all just rumours if I remember correctly. dont ever remember hearts or McGregor coming out and saying he’d agreed to join us. No, we had spoken and he had agreed to join, heard this first hand from an excellent source Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Ian Malcolm Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 13 hours ago, Mr Elwood P said: What are the main differences in attributes between the two? I’m not that familiar with Halkett. Basically Souttar has far more football in him. Not to say Halkett's a donkey - Souttar is a better footballer than most centre backs at this level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsofgold Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Dr Ian Malcolm said: Basically Souttar has far more football in him. Not to say Halkett's a donkey - Souttar is a better footballer than most centre backs at this level. He is now. Thanks to the development he received at Hearts. Halkett could be in the same category and he’s got loads of 1st team experience and is captain of his club. Edited March 15, 2019 by Heartsofgold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dr Ian Malcolm said: Basically Souttar has far more football in him. Not to say Halkett's a donkey - Souttar is a better footballer than most centre backs at this level. The Evening News seem to think he's a lot more of a Souttar ball playing centre back than a Berra type? I would concede that the Evening News are regularly ridiculed for printing nonsense so could be wrong again. https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/what-hearts-are-getting-in-prospective-signing-craig-halkett-1-4888773 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirky Jambo Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 I think that’s right, admittedly based solely on two bits of play i recall against us in the recent 0-0: - his drilled shot from miles out - his run down the wing and cross for Hardie that drew a save from Zlamal neither of which Berra would be capable of. Also won the header that got them the pen he scored in the 5-0 so maybe better in the air than Soutter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 13 hours ago, Mr Elwood P said: The Evening News seem to think he's a lot more of a Souttar ball playing centre back than a Berra type? I would concede that the Evening News are regularly ridiculed for printing nonsense so could be wrong again. https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/what-hearts-are-getting-in-prospective-signing-craig-halkett-1-4888773 He used to be a striker so quite possible he's more of a footballer than a hoofer. Hard to tell at Livingston tho, as their direct a team as they come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynic Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Great capture if true. Can tackle, pass and score on occasion. Berra's form recently makes it an even better deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Pre contract meltdown on vermin.net where they are soiling their cages about Scott Allan possibly cancelling his with them now that popcorn teeth is there and obviously rates him. if Lennon gets the gig then it’ll be interesting to say the least. re’ Halkett, I’d be surprised if sevco are in for him as the orcs will be wanting big names after their fek up campaign this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosavi Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 9 hours ago, 1971fozzy said: Pre contract meltdown on vermin.net where they are soiling their cages about Scott Allan possibly cancelling his with them now that popcorn teeth is there and obviously rates him. if Lennon gets the gig then it’ll be interesting to say the least. re’ Halkett, I’d be surprised if sevco are in for him as the orcs will be wanting big names after their fek up campaign this season. Oh this would please me very much can you imagine the seethe if Allan changed his mind and told Hibs to bolt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Folk on here linking him with rangers before he's even signed for us now. Usually they at least play for hearts before that happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musemic Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Interesting to see that Halkett made Rob McLean's team of the week on the BBC website. If the last sentence is to be taken seriously in McLean's article then I wouldn't be too sure that Halkett will end up with us. The ITK-ers seem to think it's a done deal though? I picked Livingston skipper Craig Halkett in last weekend's selection and he keeps his place If the last sentenceafter playing a key role in the 1-1 weekend draw with Aberdeen at Pittodrie. The queue of clubs wanting to sign the centre-half at the end of the season continues to grow" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandylejambo Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 lets hope for a season of no injuries if we only sign two players, we are shit with the players we have, never mind another season with our flare player being injured or off form, the mans just not thinking right, he has to step down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Fired a good ball cross the goal for the leveller. I think he enhances our team, not a bit part at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 I thought Levein just signed duds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Think we may get gazumped here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Looks like the lad is holding out for better offers with us as his nailed on back up. Can't fault the lad, hopefully we are looking at another option . Could have been an excellent career move for him under a Levein but the fact he's stalling says money is talking . Onwards and upwards to another hungrier target . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 28 minutes ago, ramrod said: Looks like the lad is holding out for better offers with us as his nailed on back up. Can't fault the lad, hopefully we are looking at another option . Could have been an excellent career move for him under a Levein but the fact he's stalling says money is talking . Onwards and upwards to another hungrier target . Plenty more fish. Make him an offer and tell him he's got 24 hrs to sign or we withdraw the offer. Hardball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fort Vallance Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, Jambof3tornado said: Plenty more fish. Make him an offer and tell him he's got 24 hrs to sign or we withdraw the offer. Hardball. To be fair he always said he would leave it up to his agent to sort out the options and decide at the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swanny17 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 The ITKers have already this is a done deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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