Morgan Posted April 18, 2019 Author Share Posted April 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Semi finals are looking like Arsenal v Valencia Benfica/ Frankfurt v Chelsea Probably, yes. I’m hoping it’s Benfica rather than Eintracht Frankfurt. Hoping also for a Valencia v Benfica Final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted April 18, 2019 Author Share Posted April 18, 2019 33 minutes ago, Boab said: Return legs tonight. Four home wins. 5/1. Good luck to you Boab, but I think Frankfurt may let you down, What the feck do I know though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 48 minutes ago, Boab said: Return legs tonight. Four home wins. 5/1. That's exactly what I've done too mate, looks pretty straightforward to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferryjambo99 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Collum refereeing Valencia v Villarreal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 24 minutes ago, Morgan said: Good luck to you Boab, but I think Frankfurt may let you down, What the feck do I know though! I’ll take that as my banker home ! ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted April 18, 2019 Author Share Posted April 18, 2019 30 minutes ago, Boab said: I’ll take that as my banker home ! ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Lovely Chelsea goal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Taffin said: Lovely Chelsea goal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 And a shocking miss still leads to number 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lauriesrank Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 6 hours ago, Ferryjambo99 said: Collum refereeing Valencia v Villarreal TOok him 1.5 minutes to make a mistake, waved play on and not a valencia player even close!! LOL, anyway, very entertaining game this, Valencia and Villareal I mean, pissing down too!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 3-0 Giroud tap in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 4-1 Chelsea!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Napoli have missed 2 good chances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 (edited) Sorry Napoli Over for another year Edited April 18, 2019 by Mikey1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VALDOS Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Where has the Napoli that beat Liverpool gone? Honestly they looked bloody good that night and ran them ragged, but this is just awful stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Napoli get made to look very ordinary by a functional Arsenal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Olly Lee's left boot said: Napoli get made to look very ordinary by a functional Arsenal. That's because they are very ordinary. Sad to say for those of us who grew up when Serie A was in its pomp... but 2nd best side in Italy means nothing nowadays. Other than how pathetic Serie A is. That's the same Serie A which has had zero finalists in this tournament since 1999. None whatsoever. And "big European away night in a hostile atmosphere" means nothing either when it comes to this lousy tournament. Just the difference in atmosphere, let alone the quality of football, between the Champions and Europa Leagues, always amazes me. The only Europa League game ever worth watching for a neutral is the final, frankly. Arsenal, a good side but nothing special yet, are walking it. The EPL had four quarter-finalists in the CL (which had never been done in history), has two semi-finalists, and a live chance of an all-English final. An all-London EL final is looking pretty likely too. Goodness knows, it's been over-hyped many times over the years... but the best league in the world now? It's England, by a suddenly growing distance. Edited April 18, 2019 by shaun.lawson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Ancelotti out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VALDOS Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 While this season the English teams have done extremely well, there is also no doubt they have benefited well from the demise of key opponents. Madrid and Bayern have dropped off massively from where they had been in recent years, Atletico could also be put in there. Add that to the longer term drip off from both Milan clubs it opens space for those best prepared. There is a chance both european trophies will head to England, but I dont think this is a sign of a landslide for the next few years or more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Prague miss great chance for 4-4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, shaun.lawson said: That's because they are very ordinary. Sad to say for those of us who grew up when Serie A was in its pomp... but 2nd best side in Italy means nothing nowadays. Other than how pathetic Serie A is. That's the same Serie A which has had zero finalists in this tournament since 1999. None whatsoever. And "big European away night in a hostile atmosphere" means nothing either when it comes to this lousy tournament. Just the difference in atmosphere, let alone the quality of football, between the Champions and Europa Leagues, always amazes me. The only Europa League game ever worth watching for a neutral is the final, frankly. Arsenal, a good side but nothing special yet, are walking it. The EPL had four quarter-finalists in the CL (which had never been done in history), has two semi-finalists, and a live chance of an all-English final. An all-London EL final is looking pretty likely too. Goodness knows, it's been over-hyped many times over the years... but the best league in the world now? It's England, by a suddenly growing distance. England is one of the top leagues, no doubt. The top? Would be open to debate over the last few years the Spanish have provided winners and finalists constantly. England have done better overall this season, but it takes more than 1 season to signal a long term change or dominance. Edited April 18, 2019 by Olly Lee's left boot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 We could see a Europa Cup final between 2 English sides and it could be a shoot out for a Champions League place between Arsenal and Chelsea (and of course there could be an all English Champions league final) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, CJGJ said: We could see a Europa Cup final between 2 English sides and it could be a shoot out for a Champions League place between Arsenal and Chelsea Not if one or both have qualified already through league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, CJGJ said: We could see a Europa Cup final between 2 English sides and it could be a shoot out for a Champions League place between Arsenal and Chelsea (and of course there could be an all English Champions league final) Maybe, but I can see Arsenal being 3rd or 4th Come the seasons end so it won't matter about the Ucl. Also, it could very possibly be a Barcelona v spurs final and imo Barca would mess them, badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 8 hours ago, Morgan said: Probably, yes. I’m hoping it’s Benfica rather than Eintracht Frankfurt. Hoping also for a Valencia v Benfica Final. Valencia v Chelsea final Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Chelsea - a miserable, bedraggled, spiritless, spineless shambles of a football team - through to a European semi-final. Sums this whole tournament up frankly. 4-3, and it wasn't even exciting! Elsewhere: Benfica gonna Benfica. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 23 minutes ago, Olly Lee's left boot said: Maybe, but I can see Arsenal being 3rd or 4th Come the seasons end so it won't matter about the Ucl. Also, it could very possibly be a Barcelona v spurs final and imo Barca would mess them, badly. I think Arsenal will end up 3rd, yes. With Spurs hanging on for 4th. And you could be right with what you say about the final. Alternatively, if a team's name is on the Cup, no mere footballers can wipe it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted April 18, 2019 Author Share Posted April 18, 2019 42 minutes ago, Olly Lee's left boot said: England is one of the top leagues, no doubt. The top? Would be open to debate over the last few years the Spanish have provided winners and finalists constantly. England have done better overall this season, but it takes more than 1 season to signal a long term change or dominance. You’re right but you’re wrong. @shaun.lawson said ‘in the world now’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Morgan said: You’re right but you’re wrong. @shaun.lawson said ‘in the world now’ It's cyclical, of course. The EPL peaked in 2007/8, and I was already noting its decline within 2 years of that. Then it got worse, and worse, and worse (silver lining: this was what let Leicester in to pull off a miracle), but it's back on top now. You could see things building last season; it's gone miles clear now. Managerial quality is the biggest reason for that IMO. And when you look around Europe - Juve too old, Bayern nothing special, PSG will never understand how to build a genuine team, Madrid a bunch of mercenaries, Atletico way too old, Barca very good but not what they were, Inter and Milan way way off what's required, Ronaldo and Messi both getting on a bit now - it's hard to see anything other than England pulling away at the top. Especially as Ajax' side will, sadly, surely be taken apart in the summer. Edited April 18, 2019 by shaun.lawson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted April 18, 2019 Author Share Posted April 18, 2019 16 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Valencia v Chelsea final In that case Mikey, ‘hala Valencia’! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Just now, Morgan said: In that case Mikey, ‘hala Valencia’! I'm not sure their progress says much for this comp either tbh. I watched Valencia at Old Trafford. God, they were awful. So far off what they once were a couple of decades back - when they were bloody amazing to watch - it was sad. I guess I hope Arsenal win it from here. ABC in the Euro Vase; ABB in the Big Cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted April 18, 2019 Author Share Posted April 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, shaun.lawson said: I'm not sure their progress says much for this comp either tbh. I watched Valencia at Old Trafford. God, they were awful. So far off what they once were a couple of decades back - when they were bloody amazing to watch - it was sad. I guess I hope Arsenal win it from here. ABC in the Euro Vase; ABB in the Big Cup. ABC and ABB are my favourite two mantras also Shaun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Morgan said: You’re right but you’re wrong. @shaun.lawson said ‘in the world now’ Mmmm The best English team is out. The best Spanish team is still in. Could argue, bit I'll give him that. As of this date the English teams have performed stronger than the teams in the other leagues. Ofc, the season isn't over yet, and I judge teams at the seasons end. Using "now" is a bit strange, football tend to at least get judged season on season. Even using the term "now", using the Co efficients, 4/10 of the top teams are Spanish and the top two are Spanish. However, England are above Spain in the member Co efficients just now. So maybe Spain have the stronger top clubs, but England the stronger league? It's a mind bender!!! Wouldn't bet against Barca / Valencia winning both this season either, although Liverpool / Arsenal would also not Suprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Collum books a player for handball when the shot comes off his thigh on to his hand....honestly he is terrible That player now booked and misses the first leg against Arsenal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, shaun.lawson said: It's cyclical, of course. The EPL peaked in 2007/8, and I was already noting its decline within 2 years of that. Then it got worse, and worse, and worse (silver lining: this was what let Leicester in to pull off a miracle), but it's back on top now. You could see things building last season; it's gone miles clear now. Managerial quality is the biggest reason for that IMO. And when you look around Europe - Juve too old, Bayern nothing special, PSG will never understand how to build a genuine team, Madrid a bunch of mercenaries, Atletico way too old, Barca very good but not what they were, Inter and Milan way way off what's required, Ronaldo and Messi both getting on a bit now - it's hard to see anything other than England pulling away at the top. Especially as Ajax' side will, sadly, surely be taken apart in the summer. Interesting. Spanish teams have been dominate and even this season regularly schooled English teams. Bayern and Juve do need to rebuild, but I think in regards to Juve you are doing Ajax a disservice. They have been brilliant. Madrid could be in bother. Liverpool / Barca will be interesting. Direct/ speed, vibrancy v possession, technique and Messi. Barca have taken apart man utd and spurs, did Valancia not also beat Man Utd? It could be a Barca /Spurs final quite easily and if that's the case, England will need to wait to conquer Europe. I think you are jumping the gun regards to England dominating, but they have improved over the past two seasons and the managers are a good point you bring up, the best are going to England. Edited April 18, 2019 by Olly Lee's left boot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, Boab said: I’ll take that as my banker home ! ? guaranteed edit* must check the results beforehand *edit again. Seems Morgan got it wrong again Morgan, any chance you can predict a Celtic final win please as that's pretty much us won it! Edited April 18, 2019 by chester copperpot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Olly Lee's left boot said: Liverpool / Barca will be interesting. Yes, very. Because both sides are very high in quality and extremely well balanced - meaning it should be one for the purists. It's a coinflip IMO. Just as the other semi is: where I wonder how Ajax will handle being away from home in the first leg, but equally wonder whether Spurs will have 11 fit players to start with! Quality and a bit of a chess match in the first semi, chaos/drama in the second semi, I think. But that doesn't mean the side emerging from the chaotic "defence, what defence?" semi has no chance in the final. In a one-off game, as 2012, 2005, 1999 and other occasions have taught us, anything can happen. Edited April 18, 2019 by shaun.lawson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 1 minute ago, shaun.lawson said: Yes, very. Because both sides are very high in quality and extremely well balanced - meaning it should be one for the purists. It's a coinflip IMO. Just as the other semi is: where I wonder how Ajax will handle being away from home in the first leg, but equally wonder whether Spurs will have 11 fit players to start with! Quality in the first semi, chaos/drama in the second semi, I think. But that doesn't mean the side emerging from the chaotic "defence, what defence?" semi has no chance in the final. In a one-off game, as 2012, 2005, 1999 and other occasions have taught us, anything can happen. Yip, but really can't see Spurs winning it. Barcelona destroyed them in the group stages for one. Or should I say Messi did. Having watched Ajax a few times, if they continue that form they will cause anyone problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun.lawson Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Just now, Olly Lee's left boot said: Yip, but really can't see Spurs winning it. Barcelona destroyed them in the group stages for one. Or should I say Messi did. Having watched Ajax a few times, if they continue that form they will cause anyone problems. If I was setting the odds for tournament winners, I'd go with something like: Liverpool/Barca 7/4 CF Tottenham 4/1 Ajax 9/2 But that doesn't mean Ajax can't win it. Heading into the semis, the least likely side on paper won this in 2012 and 2007. And this season's edition is so crazy, it deserves a crazy outcome too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted April 19, 2019 Author Share Posted April 19, 2019 12 hours ago, chester copperpot said: guaranteed edit* must check the results beforehand *edit again. Seems Morgan got it wrong again Morgan, any chance you predict a Celtic final win please as that's pretty much us won it! @Olly Lee's left boot already asked me to do that on Wednesday night. With heavy heart I did so. You’ll find it on Wednesday nights CL thread. Not doing it again, even for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Morgan said: @Olly Lee's left boot already asked me to do that on Wednesday night. With heavy heart I did so. You’ll find it on Wednesday nights CL thread. Not doing it again, even for you. Haha. You're the best poster on here mate. Apart fi me Dunno why I said that now but I always look out for your posts. You're a good 'un. Mon the Celts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted April 19, 2019 Author Share Posted April 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, chester copperpot said: Haha. You're the best poster on here mate. Apart fi me Dunno why I said that now but I always look out for your posts. You're a good 'un. Mon the Celts Cheers Chester. Away ra Tims! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 1 hour ago, chester copperpot said: Haha. You're the best poster on here mate. Apart fi me Dunno why I said that now but I always look out for your posts. You're a good 'un. Mon the Celts 1 hour ago, Morgan said: Cheers Chester. Away ra Tims! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted April 19, 2019 Author Share Posted April 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Olly Lee's left boot said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ri Alban Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 18 hours ago, shaun.lawson said: I'm not sure their progress says much for this comp either tbh. I watched Valencia at Old Trafford. God, they were awful. So far off what they once were a couple of decades back - when they were bloody amazing to watch - it was sad. I guess I hope Arsenal win it from here. ABC in the Euro Vase; ABB in the Big Cup. C'mon Barcelona. Messi is the greatest! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 4 hours ago, chester copperpot said: Haha. You're the best poster on here mate. Apart fi me Dunno why I said that now but I always look out for your posts. You're a good 'un. Mon the Celts 4 hours ago, chester copperpot said: 4 hours ago, Morgan said: Cheers Chester. Away ra Tims! "ROOM SERVICE!!!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted April 19, 2019 Author Share Posted April 19, 2019 41 minutes ago, ri Alban said: "ROOM SERVICE!!!" I think we both need a nurse as well!! Sickening behaviour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Just now, Morgan said: I think we both need a nurse as well!! Sickening behaviour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 14 hours ago, Morgan said: I think we both need a nurse as well!! Sickening behaviour. Hahahahaha Mon the Celts. I need a tetanus shot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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