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[The Real Maroonblood]

17 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said:

 

I agree, and when the time comes, the Republicans will all be writing books about their time in the Senate, and what an absolute incompetent buffoon Trump was, and how they tried their best to keep him under control, behind the scenes, of course.

Sad but true. 

[Sharpie]

I read the letter he sent to Pelosi, again he indicated to me a serious mental problem Much of what he alleges are things that he himself is being accused of. He then goes in to his campaign speech about the economy, employment figures etc. Everyone is a liar, he has insulting names for everyone, he is a big child. His antics are more to be expected on the school playground than fom the resident of the White House.

The Constitution on dealing with Impeachment reqires hearing member to swear an oath which includes impartiality, both sides are equally to blame for not abiding by this condition.

I dislike Trump intensely which is I suppose admitting what has not been the worlds best kept secret. Trump or no one on this earth can take away from me the life I have had, but I watched a congresswoman the other day talk about her seven day old grandchild in her arms, and wondering what world it has to look forward to. I think of you guys on here in your twenties, thirties, and what your children if you have any or are going to have any have for a future, I have seen a world war, Korean war, Falklands and others, but they are all tea parties to what the likes of Trump will conjure, the conflict and after effects, I'm o.k I will be out of it, but I do have empathy for those who will suffer.

 

 

[Tynieman]

1 hour ago, bobsharp said:

I read the letter he sent to Pelosi, again he indicated to me a serious mental problem Much of what he alleges are things that he himself is being accused of. He then goes in to his campaign speech about the economy, employment figures etc. Everyone is a liar, he has insulting names for everyone, he is a big child. His antics are more to be expected on the school playground than fom the resident of the White House.

The Constitution on dealing with Impeachment reqires hearing member to swear an oath which includes impartiality, both sides are equally to blame for not abiding by this condition.

I dislike Trump intensely which is I suppose admitting what has not been the worlds best kept secret. Trump or no one on this earth can take away from me the life I have had, but I watched a congresswoman the other day talk about her seven day old grandchild in her arms, and wondering what world it has to look forward to. I think of you guys on here in your twenties, thirties, and what your children if you have any or are going to have any have for a future, I have seen a world war, Korean war, Falklands and others, but they are all tea parties to what the likes of Trump will conjure, the conflict and after effects, I'm o.k I will be out of it, but I do have empathy for those who will suffer.

 

 

 

Bob, I have questioned you before on this, but is Donald Trump really that worse than many who have been before him?

 

As far as I’m aware there has been little in the way of blood shed in comparison to evil that other previous presidents have started?

 

He’s a buffoon of biblical proportions (a racist, sexist pig actually). But is much less of a criminal than George Bush or Tony Blair for example.

 

I actually think the impeachment is a bit of a farce and is clearly the democrats trying to gain an advantage before the next election (which I think trump will win by the way). 

 

I think he’s an idiot - but he doesn’t have the blood of previous presidents on his hands (yet).

 

I just don’t understand why you make out the world is going to be so much worse in the future due him, when just as evil (or worse) have went before him?

Edited December 18, 2019 by Tynieman

[Mikey1874]

Quite impressive in less than 3 years.

 

The Washington Post has counted 15,413 false or misleading claims by Trump.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/12/16/president-trump-has-made-false-or-misleading-claims-over-days/%3foutputType=amp

[Sharpie]

7 minutes ago, Tynieman said:

 

Bob, I have questioned you before on this, but is Donald Trump really that worse than many who have been before him?

 

As far as I’m aware there has been little in the way of blood shed in comparison to evil that other previous presidents have started?

 

He’s a buffoon of biblical proportions (a racist, sexist pig actually). But is much less of a criminal than George Bush or Tony Blair for example.

 

I actually think the impeachment is a bit of a farce and is clearly the democrats trying to gain an advantage before the next election (which I think trump will win by the way). 

 

I think he’s an idiot - but he doesn’t have the blood of previous presidents on his hands (yet).

 

I just don’t understand why you make out the world is going to be so much worse in the future due him, when just as evil (or worse) have went before him?

 

Nearly all the President I have lived through have had their deficiencies. It goes with the job. Roosevelt got stuck in a war he really wanted to avoid, unfortunately Japan attaked and they were in.

Korea happened, Americans lost a lot of young men, but no alternative.

Vietnam a debacle mainly the fault of Johnson and his cohorts, a lot of young men died, others who dodged the draft were criticised. A mistake and lots of misery

Nixon, Bush 1 and 2, the father stepped in when Iraq attac ked a neighbour, it had to be done, he stopped when mission accomplished, I feel the son felt his dad had been mischaracterised and when he had the chance which was basically a false pretense WMD's went in and whopped Iraq good.

 Clinton, Obama, had their moments but not quite so devastating.

 Now for Trump. There is no doubt he is in Putins pocket. He is kissing the ass of Kim, and more ass kissing of China. He is a proven liar, a serial adulterer a demander of loyalty and returning none. He envies the prenamed Dictators their power and control, and I believe if reelected he will set wheels in motion to become one of them. Even the worst of the previous named including Nixon have had their moments of being Presidential I have never seen one from Trump.

I have concerns for the future generations because I feel Trump thinks he will be one of the few, and to gain this he is taking actions that are for self gratification an extreme danger to U.S. security, isolating himself from such as Europe, and even Canada, and will find that people like Putin do not maintain their position by honesty, loyalty, and a desire to have another strong leader, they want what they got an easily manipulated narcissist who revels in being told how good he is, and needs constant ego building.

How will it all end, Russia, North Korea mebbe China will gain the nuclear advantage they want and when they get it they will not hesitate to use it.

Trump talks a big story but when the baloon goes up, he will go down into the bunker and quake in fear like he did with his bone spurs during Vietnam./

[Tynieman]

2 hours ago, bobsharp said:

 

Nearly all the President I have lived through have had their deficiencies. It goes with the job. Roosevelt got stuck in a war he really wanted to avoid, unfortunately Japan attaked and they were in.

Korea happened, Americans lost a lot of young men, but no alternative.

Vietnam a debacle mainly the fault of Johnson and his cohorts, a lot of young men died, others who dodged the draft were criticised. A mistake and lots of misery

Nixon, Bush 1 and 2, the father stepped in when Iraq attac ked a neighbour, it had to be done, he stopped when mission accomplished, I feel the son felt his dad had been mischaracterised and when he had the chance which was basically a false pretense WMD's went in and whopped Iraq good.

 Clinton, Obama, had their moments but not quite so devastating.

 Now for Trump. There is no doubt he is in Putins pocket. He is kissing the ass of Kim, and more ass kissing of China. He is a proven liar, a serial adulterer a demander of loyalty and returning none. He envies the prenamed Dictators their power and control, and I believe if reelected he will set wheels in motion to become one of them. Even the worst of the previous named including Nixon have had their moments of being Presidential I have never seen one from Trump.

I have concerns for the future generations because I feel Trump thinks he will be one of the few, and to gain this he is taking actions that are for self gratification an extreme danger to U.S. security, isolating himself from such as Europe, and even Canada, and will find that people like Putin do not maintain their position by honesty, loyalty, and a desire to have another strong leader, they want what they got an easily manipulated narcissist who revels in being told how good he is, and needs constant ego building.

How will it all end, Russia, North Korea mebbe China will gain the nuclear advantage they want and when they get it they will not hesitate to use it.

Trump talks a big story but when the baloon goes up, he will go down into the bunker and quake in fear like he did with his bone spurs during Vietnam./

 

I like you Bob, but a lot of what you’ve written above is conjecture and not factual.

 

“Korea happened” “Americans lost a lot of young men”. Both not wrong, but America literally destroyed North Korea, who lost millions of its people during that war. Whether or not America had to get involved is debatable to say the very least. North Korea was essentially a Soviet Union proxy, with the south being America’s.

 

Why are countries like America, Israel, the UK etc allowed nuclear weapons and North Korea isn’t?

 

The countries I’ve mentioned have started more wars, killed more people and have more blood on their hands than North Korea. I don’t blame Kim wanting nuclear weapons as a measure of security. All you have to do is look at what happened to Libya after they gave up theirs, it hardly bodes well.

 

When you add in the history when North Korea was quite literally, bombed to oblivion, well it’s not hard to see why they want to have some type of deterrent is it?

 

North Korea had nuclear weapons before Trump was in power by the way, so that can’t really be blamed on him.

 

And whilst I don’t disagree with you about Trump and Kim, I’d rather he kiss an arse than go to war, don’t you agree? Also, sanctions (which only really affect the population of Koreans, some of whom will starve to death because of said sanctions) are heavier than that of the Obama era, so kissing Kim’s ass is hardly correct.

 

North and South Korea are for the first time, at relative peace, which hopefully will eventually progress to both finally signing a peace treaty which has never happened. Both countries are technically still at war.

 

I have to be honest, what you’ve written about the Iraq wars is so wrong and doesn’t really contain an overall picture. It’s far too long to go into but the sanctions which were applied during the first war, killed Iraq’s population through starvation by at least hundreds of thousands, if not millions.

 

To build a more balanced picture about the first war, ask yourself, who gave the chemical weapons to Suddam to allow him to use them to attack? That’s right, we did.

 

We have caused untold damage to the Middle East since WW1 and had we not gave the weapons to Suddam when he was our enemy’s enemy, the original attach wouldn’t have happened. We armed him when it was a benefit to us.

 

The second war in Iraq was horrific and caused by complete fabrication and downright lies.

 

This surely is an impeachable offence if there ever was one no? I’d say that it was certainly more impeachable than a phone call no? A million people (well, much more if you consider the absolute mess we left after the war, which resulted in ISIS etc). Think about that, a million (and much more) people dead.

 

Obama’s office funded terrorists in Syria which has again killed hundreds of thousands and displaced many more.

 

I could go on and on about Vietnam but I won’t, all I’ll say to that is that the vast majority of the public disagree that it was a necessary war, and when you read about the horrific acts America caused during it, there’s little to dispute.

 

Yes, Trump is a liar, a racist and generally a despicable man but he’s no worse than what has went back before him. 

 

I think killing people on the basis on unnecessary wars is more impeachable than a disputed conversation during a telephone call, which ultimately was caused by apparently fraud by an elected official (has that even been investigated btw, in terms of the gas company or whatever it was?)

 

I know why people hate Trump (I do

myself). But is he anymore dislikable than George Bush or Clinton or Nixon etc, I really don’t know.

Edited December 18, 2019 by Tynieman

[Justin Z]

Having a laugh
 

 

[Sharpie]

1 hour ago, Tynieman said:

 

I like you Bob, but a lot of what you’ve written above is conjecture and not factual.

 

“Korea happened” “Americans lost a lot of young men”. Both not wrong, but America literally destroyed North Korea, who lost millions of its people during that war. Whether or not America had to get involved is debatable to say the very least. North Korea was essentially a Soviet Union proxy, with the south being America’s.

 

Why are countries like America, Israel, the UK etc allowed nuclear weapons and North Korea isn’t?

 

The countries I’ve mentioned have started more wars, killed more people and have more blood on their hands than North Korea. I don’t blame Kim wanting nuclear weapons as a measure of security. All you have to do is look at what happened to Libya after they gave up theirs, it hardly bodes well.

 

When you add in the history when North Korea was quite literally, bombed to oblivion, well it’s not hard to see why they want to have some type of deterrent is it?

 

North Korea had nuclear weapons before Trump was in power by the way, so that can’t really be blamed on him.

 

And whilst I don’t disagree with you about Trump and Kim, I’d rather he kiss an arse than go to war, don’t you agree? Also, sanctions (which only really affect the population of Koreans, some of whom will starve to death because of said sanctions) are heavier than that of the Obama era, so kissing Kim’s ass is hardly correct.

 

North and South Korea are for the first time, at relative peace, which hopefully will eventually progress to both finally signing a peace treaty which has never happened. Both countries are technically still at war.

 

I have to be honest, what you’ve written about the Iraq wars is so wrong and doesn’t really contain an overall picture. It’s far too long to go into but the sanctions which were applied during the first war, killed Iraq’s population through starvation by at least hundreds of thousands, if not millions.

 

To build a more balanced picture about the first war, ask yourself, who gave the chemical weapons to Suddam to allow him to use them to attack? That’s right, we did.

 

We have caused untold damage to the Middle East since WW1 and had we not gave the weapons to Suddam when he was our enemy’s enemy, the original attach wouldn’t have happened. We armed him when it was a benefit to us.

 

The second war in Iraq was horrific and caused by complete fabrication and downright lies.

 

This surely is an impeachable offence if there ever was one no? I’d say that it was certainly more impeachable than a phone call no? A million people (well, much more if you consider the absolute mess we left after the war, which resulted in ISIS etc). Think about that, a million (and much more) people dead.

 

Obama’s office funded terrorists in Syria which has again killed hundreds of thousands and displaced many more.

 

I could go on and on about Vietnam but I won’t, all I’ll say to that is that the vast majority of the public disagree that it was a necessary war, and when you read about the horrific acts America caused during it, there’s little to dispute.

 

Yes, Trump is a liar, a racist and generally a despicable man but he’s no worse than what has went back before him. 

 

I think killing people on the basis on unnecessary wars is more impeachable than a disputed conversation during a telephone call, which ultimately was caused by apparently fraud by an elected official (has that even been investigated btw, in terms of the gas company or whatever it was?)

 

I know why people hate Trump (I do

myself). But is he anymore dislikable than George Bush or Clinton or Nixon etc, I really don’t know.

 

The positive thing is we disagree, that is good because we are not automatons, you have pointed out what you see as my errors and I accept your views totally. It is indeed very enjoyable to me to express our differences in the happenings, just as people look out a window and see the world differently, this seems to be the case here, but what is good is that we have done so with respect without rancor or insult, thank you.

[Maple Leaf]

On the floor of the House of Representatives today.  Only in America!

 

"Before you take this historic vote today, one week before Christmas, I want you to keep this in mind: When Jesus was falsely accused of treason, Pontius Pilate gave Jesus the opportunity to face his accusers," he said.

"During that sham trial, Pontius Pilate afforded more rights to Jesus than the Democrats have afforded this President in this process."

[Tazio]

Trump is impeached, becoming third US president in history to face Senate trial https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50840934

[Maple Leaf]

1 hour ago, Tazio said:

Trump is impeached, becoming third US president in history to face Senate trial https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50840934

 

A hundred years from now, when people who are asked about Trump, they'll say "Wasn't he the guy that was impeached?"

 

That's all that people will remember about this embarrassing nitwit. 

[ri Alban]

1 hour ago, Maple Leaf said:

 

A hundred years from now, when people who are asked about Trump, they'll say "Wasn't he the guy that was impeached?"

 

That's all that people will remember about this embarrassing nitwit. 

The week before Christmas must be impeachment week. 

And Where's the JKB Christmas decorations? 

Edited December 19, 2019 by ri Alban

[The Real Maroonblood]

2 hours ago, Tazio said:

Trump is impeached, becoming third US president in history to face Senate trial https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50840934

[Tynieman]

8 hours ago, bobsharp said:

 

The positive thing is we disagree, that is good because we are not automatons, you have pointed out what you see as my errors and I accept your views totally. It is indeed very enjoyable to me to express our differences in the happenings, just as people look out a window and see the world differently, this seems to be the case here, but what is good is that we have done so with respect without rancor or insult, thank you.

 

Top man

[Sidelight]

On 25/11/2019 at 21:41, Maple Leaf said:

"Trump ordained by God."

 

This is an eye-popping, jaw-dropping article for sane people.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/25/politics/rick-perry-donald-trump-god/index.html

 

[Maple Leaf]

9 minutes ago, alfajambo said:

 

 

Sorry, alfa, there's no way I'm going to sit through a 55-minute right-wing rant.

 

The short version is "Poor Donald is being picked on by a bunch of crazy, godless socialists."  Close?

[JFK-1]

11 hours ago, Maple Leaf said:

 

A hundred years from now, when people who are asked about Trump, they'll say "Wasn't he the guy that was impeached?"

 

That's all that people will remember about this embarrassing nitwit. 

 

I wouldn't be so sure of that at this point. I suspect there's a lot more about him in the background that can't be uncovered/revealed until the shield of the office is taken away from him. Actual serious criminality/fraud.

Among other things he's using the office to enrich himself in an effort to become an actual billionaire rather than a pretend one and the investigation of him wont stop when he's gone. Might even intensify since he then wont be able to interfere.

[Maple Leaf]

10 hours ago, ri Alban said:

 

And Where's the JKB Christmas decorations? 

@ri AlbanThey're in a box in the JKB storage room.  I'll see if I can find them.

[Sharpie]

So the Republicans compare Trump to Jesus, and the Impeachment to Pearl Harbour. It must be me that has gone crazy, there cannot be that many nutcases all in the same political party.

[JFK-1]

Just now, bobsharp said:

So the Republicans compare Trump to Jesus, and the Impeachment to Pearl Harbour. It must be me that has gone crazy, there cannot be that many nutcases all in the same political party.

 

The Republicans began the march down the crazy path years ago then since Trump it's evolved into full blown insanity for all to see. It's going to be a hard path to backtrack down once he's gone.

[Maple Leaf]

8 minutes ago, JFK-1 said:

 

I wouldn't be so sure of that at this point. I suspect there's a lot more about him in the background that can't be uncovered/revealed until the shield of the office is taken away from him. Actual serious criminality/fraud.

Among other things he's using the office to enrich himself in an effort to become an actual billionaire rather than a pretend one and the investigation of him wont stop when he's gone. Might even intensify since he then wont be able to interfere.

 

You might be right.  And if any crimes do surface, a future President can only pardon him for Federal crimes.  If the state of New York charges him with anything, no-one can protect him.

[Sidelight]

14 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said:

 

Sorry, alfa, there's no way I'm going to sit through a 55-minute right-wing rant.

 

The short version is "Poor Donald is being picked on by a bunch of crazy, godless socialists."  Close?

Schiff has embarrassed himself with his lies, with more to follow.

There are no legitimate grounds for impeachment. Interesting viewing.

 

It won’t happen and I would suggest that Trump will be president on into 2020 and beyond.

55 mins, that’s nothing compared to the 273 pages from the leftist cabal. (Smiling face / Tap dancing kilted man)

[Maple Leaf]

39 minutes ago, alfajambo said:

Schiff has embarrassed himself with his lies, with more to follow.

There are no legitimate grounds for impeachment. Interesting viewing.

 

It won’t happen and I would suggest that Trump will be president on into 2020 and beyond.

55 mins, that’s nothing compared to the 273 pages from the leftist cabal. (Smiling face / Tap dancing kilted man)

 

Schiff has embarrassed himself with lies?  By actual count, Trump has made over 15,000 lies or false statements since he became President ... without a trace of embarrassment!

 

Abuse of power and obstruction of Congress are two legitimate grounds for impeachment. The Republican bootlickers in the Senate will exonerate him, of course, but the House has done what the Constitution requires of them.

 

Trump might well win in 2020 ... I'd say it's 50-50 at the moment ... but that doesn't alter the fact that he has been an awful, divisive President, and has most certainly not MAGA. 

[JFK-1]

No one is better at highlighting the absurdity of Trump than Bill Maher.

 

 

[Lovecraft]

10 minutes ago, JFK-1 said:

No one is better at highlighting the absurdity of Trump than Bill Maher.

 

 

Anybody with half a brain can see Trump is a ****ing idiot with serious mental health issues.

 

That's the reason it's thick uneducated white people that vote for him and "his" party.

 

He is gonna explode soon.  His rant yesterday was getting more and more incoherent.  Even more than usual.

 

 

[Lovecraft]

This ****ing idiot is the President....

 

Mocking someone whose husband just died.

 

 

 

He looks healthy and well though.

 

😉

 

 

Edited December 19, 2019 by Lovecraft

[Sharpie]

6 minutes ago, Lovecraft said:

This ****ing idiot is the President....

 

Mocking someone whose husband just died.

 

 

 

He looks healthy and well though.

 

😉

 

 

Did you notice his crowd turned on him for that obscene comment.

[Lovecraft]

2 minutes ago, bobsharp said:

Did you notice his crowd turned on him for that obscene comment.

Yeah, a few groans - but also a few laughs, cheers and claps.

 

Trump supporters....

 

 

[Joey J J Jr Shabadoo]

1 hour ago, alfajambo said:

Schiff has embarrassed himself with his lies, with more to follow.

There are no legitimate grounds for impeachment. Interesting viewing.

 

It won’t happen and I would suggest that Trump will be president on into 2020 and beyond.

55 mins, that’s nothing compared to the 273 pages from the leftist cabal. (Smiling face / Tap dancing kilted man)

I'd say religion is the biggest lie of all.

[ri Alban]

1 hour ago, Maple Leaf said:

@ri AlbanThey're in a box in the JKB storage room.  I'll see if I can find them.

Yer a star. Cheers! 

[J.T.F.Robertson]

1 hour ago, Lovecraft said:

This ****ing idiot is the President....

 

Mocking someone whose husband just died.

 

 

 

He looks healthy and well though.

 

😉

 

 

 

Saw that yesterday. Just when you like to think the cretinous prick can't sink any further. 

[Don Dan]

So no Senate trial anytime soon. Pelosi holding the documents back for the moment.

 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2019/12/18/us/politics/impeachment-trial.amp.html

[Justin Z]

1 minute ago, Dannie Boy said:

So no Senate trial anytime soon. Pelosi holding the documents back for the moment.

 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2019/12/18/us/politics/impeachment-trial.amp.html

 

Yeah, bit of a power play. There's a Senate rule for what the impeachment trial oath should look like and in it each senator has to swear to be an impartial juror. Now that's just a Senate rule and can change at any time. But with senators coming out saying they will be anything but impartial, and McConnell, the scumbag, saying he'll just run the trial according to whatever the White House wants, on their schedule, it's clearly not going to be impartial, at all.

 

So Pelosi is saying well, we've impeached, but if the trial is going to be a sham, there's no reason to pass this on.

[Don Dan]

16 minutes ago, Justin Z said:

 

Yeah, bit of a power play. There's a Senate rule for what the impeachment trial oath should look like and in it each senator has to swear to be an impartial juror. Now that's just a Senate rule and can change at any time. But with senators coming out saying they will be anything but impartial, and McConnell, the scumbag, saying he'll just run the trial according to whatever the White House wants, on their schedule, it's clearly not going to be impartial, at all.

 

So Pelosi is saying well, we've impeached, but if the trial is going to be a sham, there's no reason to pass this on.

So is that it kicked into the long grass? 

[Justin Z]

Just now, Dannie Boy said:

So is that it kicked into the long grass? 

 

Well, not necessarily. Just, it's ultimately up to the Speaker of the House what she chooses to send to the Senate, and when--that's it.

[milky_26]

 

[Don Dan]

4 minutes ago, Justin Z said:

 

Well, not necessarily. Just, it's ultimately up to the Speaker of the House what she chooses to send to the Senate, and when--that's it.

👍🏻

[The Real Maroonblood]

12 minutes ago, milky_26 said:

 

[Sidelight]

3 hours ago, bobsharp said:

So the Republicans compare Trump to Jesus, and the Impeachment to Pearl Harbour. It must be me that has gone crazy, there cannot be that many nutcases all in the same political party.

Not quite.

Prior to the House’s vote to pass articles of impeachment on Wednesday, Rep. Barry Loudermilk (R-GA) compared the “sham trial” of Jesus to the current attempts to impeach President Trump.

“When Jesus was falsely accused of Treason, Pontius Pilate gave Jesus the opportunity to face his accusers,” Loudermilk said. “During that sham trial, Pontius Pilate afforded more rights to Jesus, than Democrats have afforded this president in this process.”

 

[Craig Gordons Gloves]

6 minutes ago, alfajambo said:

Not quite.

Prior to the House’s vote to pass articles of impeachment on Wednesday, Rep. Barry Loudermilk (R-GA) compared the “sham trial” of Jesus to the current attempts to impeach President Trump.

“When Jesus was falsely accused of Treason, Pontius Pilate gave Jesus the opportunity to face his accusers,” Loudermilk said. “During that sham trial, Pontius Pilate afforded more rights to Jesus, than Democrats have afforded this president in this process.”

 

 

My opinion is that Jesus has no place in politics.  Even more so, the politics that eschew the values that Jesus preached and instead focuses on cynically using Jesus as a tool to garner support of those that think he was real. 

[Maple Leaf]

13 minutes ago, alfajambo said:

Not quite.

Prior to the House’s vote to pass articles of impeachment on Wednesday, Rep. Barry Loudermilk (R-GA) compared the “sham trial” of Jesus to the current attempts to impeach President Trump.

“When Jesus was falsely accused of Treason, Pontius Pilate gave Jesus the opportunity to face his accusers,” Loudermilk said. “During that sham trial, Pontius Pilate afforded more rights to Jesus, than Democrats have afforded this president in this process.”

 

 

I'm sure that you're aware that Trump's "trial" has not yet begun.   The trial takes place in the Senate, if it even happens at all.  All that's happened so far is that the House has laid the charges.

 

That Republican was so anxious to tie Trump in with Jesus (Trump has been ordained by God, after all), that he started his mouth before his brain was in gear. 

[SpruceBringsteen]

Surprised to see no mention of the big man telling his loyal band of halfwits last night that they all shit like dysenteric bears. He doesn't mind you. Just them.

 

 

 

[Maple Leaf]

Christianity Today, an evangelical magazine founded by Billy Graham, is calling for Trump to be removed from office.

 

Here's the link to the story.

 

https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2019/december-web-only/trump-should-be-removed-from-office.html

 

And here's a quote from the story:

 

 None of the president’s positives can balance the moral and political danger we face under a leader of such grossly immoral character. 

[The Real Maroonblood]

4 hours ago, Maple Leaf said:

Christianity Today, an evangelical magazine founded by Billy Graham, is calling for Trump to be removed from office.

 

Here's the link to the story.

 

https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2019/december-web-only/trump-should-be-removed-from-office.html

 

And here's a quote from the story:

 

 None of the president’s positives can balance the moral and political danger we face under a leader of such grossly immoral character. 

As long as this cretin suffers some humiliation all is good.

[Dagger Is Back]

On 19/12/2019 at 16:48, J.T.F.Robertson said:

 

Saw that yesterday. Just when you like to think the cretinous prick can't sink any further. 

Couldn’t agree more. Absolute shit of a human being. That is just disgusting and shows him for the classless individual he is

 

Horrible horrible clip 

[Sharpie]

Trump left for Maralago this afternoon for the holidays. Its reported that some White House staff are worried about what he will say or do when he is not under some form of control.

[Jambo-Jimbo]

9 hours ago, Zlatanable said:

 

 

Expected something like this, because he denounces everybody & everything that doesn't bow down to him.

 

This is why I have real fear what will happen if he loses the 2020 campaign, I can guarantee that he won't take defeat well.

[The Real Maroonblood]

1 hour ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

Expected something like this, because he denounces everybody & everything that doesn't bow down to him.

 

This is why I have real fear what will happen if he loses the 2020 campaign, I can guarantee that he won't take defeat well.

Self combusting would be.

[XB52]

On 19/12/2019 at 14:53, alfajambo said:

Schiff has embarrassed himself with his lies, with more to follow.

There are no legitimate grounds for impeachment. Interesting viewing.

 

It won’t happen and I would suggest that Trump will be president on into 2020 and beyond.

55 mins, that’s nothing compared to the 273 pages from the leftist cabal. (Smiling face / Tap dancing kilted man)

It already has happened, he has been impeached

[Jambo-Jimbo]

2 hours ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

Self combusting would be.

 

Whilst that would be pleasing to see, it's not exactly what I meant.

 

He's already used words such as 'undemocratic' and 'coup' against the Democrats, just imagine what he'll say if he gets beat, for one he'll not accept the defeat, so it'll depend on what he says and how his base react to what Trump says.