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Francis Albert
2 minutes ago, ri Alban said:

Calm doon, yer taking this thread a bit personal.

I thought he came across fine in the interview, btw.  As for his re-election, Joe, or Bernie will destroy any chance of that, if the economy doesn't do that first.

Biden is in trouble merely because he recently talked about an age when consensus was possible on some issues even with people with whom you fundamentally disagreed … including segregationist Southern Democrats, which is retrospectively anathema today and now causing internal fights within the Democrats. In fact compromise with segregationist racist Southern Democrats and the support of some Republicans was precisely  what allowed Johnson to push through his Great Society reforms, probably the most progressive legislation in US history, unfortunately overshadowed by Vietnam and largely reversed by Nixon.

As for Bernie, I have about as much chance of being the next US President. Opposition to Trump remains IMO unserious.

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ri Alban
Posted (edited)
9 minutes ago, Francis Albert said:

Biden is in trouble merely because he recently talked about an age when consensus was possible on some issues even with people with whom you fundamentally disagreed … including segregationist Southern Democrats, which is retrospectively anathema today and now causing internal fights within the Democrats. In fact compromise with segregationist racist Southern Democrats and the support of some Republicans was precisely  what allowed Johnson to push through his Great Society reforms, probably the most progressive legislation in US history, unfortunately overshadowed by Vietnam and largely reversed by Nixon.

As for Bernie, I have about as much chance of being the next US President. Opposition to Trump remains IMO unserious.

Both still way ahead of DT. Personally, I'd like to see Michelle take him to the cleaners, but alas :(, it's not to be.

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The Real Maroonblood
2 hours ago, Francis Albert said:

Some of us can resist the temptation to repeatedly brag about being cleverer or more coherent than Trump. It is not much to brag about. And it is not really the point about Trump.

 

His comments and the moon and Mars and about the drone were perfectly clear to anyone other than someone determined to find any reason however trivial to mock Trump. Enjoyable as mocking Trump may be it will do **** all to stop his re-election. It didn't work last time after all.

It’s a pity Spitting Image isn’t on anymore it would have a field day with that imbecile.

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SpruceBringsteen

Did a poll over here this morning and found 70% of Democrats will now vote Trump because he gets the pish ripped out of him on a Scottish football website.

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Maple Leaf
7 minutes ago, SpruceBringsteen said:

Did a poll over here this morning and found 70% of Democrats will now vote Trump because he gets the pish ripped out of him on a Scottish football website.

 

I'm so ashamed.  :whistling:

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SpruceBringsteen
11 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said:

 

I'm so ashamed.  :whistling:

 

It's not so bad, I told them Hibs support Iran. Drone strike incoming. :pleasingao:

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bobsharp

So Trumps latest female accuser is doing the rounds of all the Sunday morning pundits. She lists him as one of the worst of the many nasty men she has dealt with. She has even gone to the extreme of describing the ac tual penetration that is required for rape, but couldn't tell if it was half of his equipment or all of it. Trump denies knowing her which is a lie, but I still cannot find myself agreeing with what she is doing. Trump offers enough as President to incur wrath, and critique, she is overkill, and still to me somewhat lacking in true credibility.

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bobsharp
Posted (edited)

Trump imposes sanctions on Iran. At least he is consistent in his actions all financial. Tariffs, sanctions and hush money.

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maroonlegions

To all the Trump apologists, this is HIS doing, no one else's , HIS. 

 

 

 

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ri Alban
Posted (edited)

With Trump at the helm, The handmaid's Tale isn't fiction.

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JimKongUno
8 hours ago, maroonlegions said:

To all the Trump apologists, this is HIS doing, no one else's , HIS. 

 

 

 

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Rubbish 

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ri Alban
10 minutes ago, JimKongUno said:

 

Rubbish 

Fact!

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The Real Maroonblood

Iran’s President suggesting that Trump is “Mentally retarded.”

:laugh:

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jake
1 hour ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

Iran’s President suggesting that Trump is “Mentally retarded.”

:laugh:

As much as I like to have a go at US hegemony.

Coming from a religious based government that's ironic

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Maple Leaf
1 hour ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

Iran’s President suggesting that Trump is “Mentally retarded.”

:laugh:

 

It isn't the first time that someone has suggested Trump has a mental issue.

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jake

 

Just now, Maple Leaf said:

 

It isn't the first time that someone has suggested Trump has a mental issue.

He may have mental issues but a political system represented by a religious cult would imo deserve the handle of retarded more readily.

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ri Alban
Posted (edited)
10 minutes ago, jake said:

As much as I like to have a go at US hegemony.

Coming from a religious based government that's ironic

The president isn't the ayatollah, Jake. And we haven't had a Catholic King Queen or PM for 350 years.

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Barack
2 hours ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

Iran’s President suggesting that Trump is “Mentally retarded.”

:laugh:

 

24 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said:

 

It isn't the first time that someone has suggested Trump has a mental issue.

It's triggered him to bits. :lol:

 

Also, despite my dubious nature about these new sexual assault claims being brought against him...his claim of her not even being his "type" raises my eyebrows.

 

"Yeah, I was going to going to grab her pussy. But then I realised she's not a natural blonde. Not really my type!"

 

The insight into of the inner workings of sex crimes, ladies & gentlemen. He's nailed it. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Or at least he would, if he didn't have permission first.

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Barack

Things like this pretty much enhance my dubiousness about her...

 

 

Anderson (Cooper, from CNN) replied: “I think most people think of rape.. as a violent assault. It is not sexy.”

To which she replied: “I think most people see rape as being sexy.”

Then after a short pause she added: “They think of the fantasies.”

 

 

 

I mean...**** off.

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jake
5 minutes ago, Barack said:

Things like this pretty much enhance my dubiousness about her...

 

 

Anderson (Cooper, from CNN) replied: “I think most people think of rape.. as a violent assault. It is not sexy.”

To which she replied: “I think most people see rape as being sexy.”

Then after a short pause she added: “They think of the fantasies.”

 

 

 

I mean...**** off.

That's the level these days.

 

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jake
41 minutes ago, ri Alban said:

The president isn't the ayatollah, Jake. And we haven't had a Catholic King Queen or PM for 350 years.

So the president is secular?

 

And there is no power of religious politics in Iran?

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jake

Are the atheists regarding Iranian leaders less retarded than Trump?

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Barack
1 minute ago, jake said:

Are the atheists regarding Iranian leaders less retarded than Trump?

Trump's not retarded. He has other psychology issues, & possibly the early warning signs of Dementia. 

 

But retarded...nah. It has triggered him though. 

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Barack

But he knows how to knock those who do have a disability of some description. So there's that...

 

 

 

 

 

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The Real Maroonblood
56 minutes ago, jake said:

As much as I like to have a go at US hegemony.

Coming from a religious based government that's ironic

Mind you there a lot of religious nutters that vote for Trump regrardless.

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jake
7 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

Mind you there a lot of religious nutters that vote for Trump regrardless.

True

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ri Alban
22 minutes ago, jake said:

So the president is secular?

 

And there is no power of religious politics in Iran?

I know how much you like hypocrisy, Jake. ?

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Maple Leaf
1 hour ago, jake said:

 

He may have mental issues but a political system represented by a religious cult would imo deserve the handle of retarded more readily.

 

Could be.  In any event, as much as I dislike Trump, the head of a theocratic dictatorship shouldn't be pointing fingers at him.  There are enough people on JKB ready to do that! :wink:

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bobsharp

Its been a sort of Trump like day for me.  It started off with discussion about the terrible conditions for children seperated from their parents and detained in camps. Some now refer to them as concentration camps. Trump manages to open his mouth and let his belly rumble stating that the conditions are pretty good. Even Fox news yes Fox news laid some criticism at his feet.

I then watched him conduct a ceremony to award a former soldier with the Medal of Honour. Trump then went on about the American way of glory and honour, and how Americans would answer the call and serve their Country. The hypocrisy and downright insult to America with his words, being a coward who bought his way out of that same service, and ignored his Country's need is without words.

I want to make it clear I met many American draft dodgers while serving in the police in Canada. They escaped the U.S. and their draft by entering Canada illegally. Many  tried to gain jobs on ships leaving Vancouver. Dealing with these young men,gave me no reason to think of them as cowards, almost to a man they were prepared to serve their Country, but not in this war that was poorly conceived and they should just not be there.

I have also made my feelings known regarding my opinion of Trumps latest accuser, I find her relating of the story at the least a twisting of the true facts, and totally distant from the actual truth. However it is sad to see the U.S. President having to deny another in the total of over twenty allegations of his sexual misconduct. And this man has the temerity to stand on a podium and award anything to a military hero who has done everything the person making the award has not.

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SpruceBringsteen

Wee Ali K is just straight talking. I thought the Trump lads liked that? :lol:

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Maple Leaf
1 hour ago, bobsharp said:

Its been a sort of Trump like day for me.  It started off with discussion about the terrible conditions for children seperated from their parents and detained in camps. Some now refer to them as concentration camps. Trump manages to open his mouth and let his belly rumble stating that the conditions are pretty good. Even Fox news yes Fox news laid some criticism at his feet.

I then watched him conduct a ceremony to award a former soldier with the Medal of Honour. Trump then went on about the American way of glory and honour, and how Americans would answer the call and serve their Country. The hypocrisy and downright insult to America with his words, being a coward who bought his way out of that same service, and ignored his Country's need is without words.

I want to make it clear I met many American draft dodgers while serving in the police in Canada. They escaped the U.S. and their draft by entering Canada illegally. Many  tried to gain jobs on ships leaving Vancouver. Dealing with these young men,gave me no reason to think of them as cowards, almost to a man they were prepared to serve their Country, but not in this war that was poorly conceived and they should just not be there.

I have also made my feelings known regarding my opinion of Trumps latest accuser, I find her relating of the story at the least a twisting of the true facts, and totally distant from the actual truth. However it is sad to see the U.S. President having to deny another in the total of over twenty allegations of his sexual misconduct. And this man has the temerity to stand on a podium and award anything to a military hero who has done everything the person making the award has not.

 

In addition to the hypocrisy of his behaviour, think of his attacks on real American military heroes like John McCain who put his life on the line with raids over North Vietnam and suffered incredible hardships for years as a result, and Robert Mueller who served his country and was awarded a Bronze Star for heroism, plus a Purple Heart for wounds.

 

Trump doesn't deserve anything but contempt for his comments about those men.  It amazes me that so many Americans, who are generally very pro-military people, buy into his BS and don't run him out of town.   

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The Real Maroonblood
15 minutes ago, milky_26 said:

trump is at it again having a go at the womens co-captain after she said she would not visit the white house if the usa won the womens world cup

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48775195

The cretin will never change.

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SpruceBringsteen

The best part was him tagging the wrong account and having to delete and start again. ****ing moron. :lol:

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Cade

Judge grants the House of representatives the ability to subpoena Donny's accounts.

 

Mueller agrees to testify to Congress.

 

Bad day for Tango Man.

 

:jjyay:

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Maple Leaf

The House Oversight Committee has issued a subpoena for Kellyanne "Donald Trump is God" Conway over her repeated violations of the Hatch Act.

 

She'll refuse to appear, of course.    

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I P Knightley
4 hours ago, SpruceBringsteen said:

The best part was him tagging the wrong account and having to delete and start again. ****ing moron. :lol:

And the wrong account person responded beautifully, essentially saying that she agreed with the football player. "She was right to say so. Cry me a river. (And this isn't even her account)"

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Barack

What's that Mr. President? The Supreme Court rejected your see-through Census sham?

 

What's that Mr. President? You're asking your lawyers to see if you can circumvent the 14th Amendment?

 

 

Oh. That's a shame. On both counts. 

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JackLadd

Agent Orange going to kiss Vlad's azz again at G20? Send Ivanka into meetings in his stead? Stable genius. 

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jake

Trump supporters being attacked by mobs.

Ugly stuff.

 

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The Real Maroonblood
1 hour ago, jake said:

Trump supporters being attacked by mobs.

Ugly stuff.

 

Is this happening in the White House by his family?

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Justin Z
1 hour ago, jake said:

Trump supporters being attacked by mobs.

Ugly stuff.

 

 

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ri Alban
3 hours ago, jake said:

Trump supporters being attacked by mobs.

Ugly stuff.

 

Ugly stuff! Is that Trump and his supporters?

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Trapper John McIntyre
2 hours ago, ri Alban said:

Ugly stuff! Is that Trump and his supporters?

 

If you're referring to hs old mucker, Eck, you're right.

 

Ugly as f * * k.

 

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The Real Maroonblood
1 minute ago, Trapper John McIntyre said:

 

If you're referring to hs old mucker, Eck, you're right.

 

Ugly as f * * k.

 

:rofl:

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Ugly American

Everyone here still buzzing over Kamala Harris piledriving Biden at the debate last night over bussing. His chickens were going to come home to roost at some point. That point was apparently last night.

 

BTW I fully intend to respond to @alfajambo, but it's a very long reply that I'll stick in a spoiler so as not to spam the thread and I haven't had time to do it justice yet.

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bobsharp

I see Donald sitting with his pal Vlad, pointing to him and laughingly making a joke about election interference. Does he not realise the importance of the subject, that it has/had his Country split in their opinions, and could yet be the reason for his Presidency coming to a sudden end. He should also consider that should he for any reason be removed from his current position all immunity that it provides no longer protects him from indictment.

The Mueller interviews at Congress next week should be interesting, but I am not too optimistic about what he will say, I suspect his comments will be very guarded and lack commitment.

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Ugly American

The full exchange between Biden and Harris is here, for what it's worth. The annotations aren't nearly as helpful as they might be.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/06/28/kamala-harris-joe-biden-exchange-over-race-busing/?utm_term=.4092e37a61a9

 

I won't overexplain this but if folks want me to go into why Harris making Biden defend his old position on bussing and federal intervention, and Biden digging in, is so devastating for him I can try. Justin will be better than me at parts of it.

 

 

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Justin Z

Nah dude, you got this :lol:

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JackLadd

Jimmy Carter, good guy and accurate assessment of Agent Orange. 

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