jake Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ugly American said: The Syrian conflict is a derivative of the war in Iraq. It had already started by the time Obama took office. Obama's Libya policy is no great success, but it was limited to air suppression of Libyan air forces who were going to bomb rebel positions. What the hell are you talking about? What the hell are you talking about? Trump is protecting and encouraging a new Saudi prince who had an opposition journalist tortured then cut up into pieces. He's providing arms for a war in Yemen that has millions of children on the brink of starvation. He cancelled the nuclear deal with Iran which was almost certainly the best piece of American diplomacy since Clinton's assistance with the GFA in NI. He's embraced a dictator in North Korea who tortured an undergraduate at my university to death. He has children in cages on the border, FFS, and has intentionally taken children from their parents in order to try to dissuade people from legally seeking asylum, a violation of international human rights. Get your head out of your ass. Can I get back to you ? I'm up at 6. I will no doubt be put in my place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Cameron and Sarkozy are the ones who effed up on Libya. Barry wasn't to blame. Dump charging $50m a year on golf and profiteering from a DC hotel that's shaking down anyone who wants his ear takes some beating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 1 hour ago, jake said: Can I get back to you ? I'm up at 6. I will no doubt be put in my place. No worries. Sorry to call you out. It's not a fun time in the US right now. Past administrations had flaws. This one is of an entirely different cast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 7 hours ago, jake said: I give the fek up. Avoid this thread if you believe Trumps policies in anyway differ in actual meaningful way to his predecessors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: He should start an Obama thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, ri Alban said: He should start an Obama thread. True, then it could be turned into a Trump thread. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 21 hours ago, SE16 3LN said: Trump **** off. The Mayor of London may be a stone cold loser but he's our stone cold Loser He has accused Trump of being childish. This from the man who.promoted the silly Trump baby blimp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey J J Jr Shabadoo Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 9 hours ago, jake said: Our taxes pay for lots worse than that. Shall I list them for your tender heart. My heart isn't that tender. I want to see trumps brain all over melania. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, Joey J J Jr Shabadoo said: My heart isn't that tender. I want to see trumps brain all over melania. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T.F.Robertson Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 (edited) There are some really interesting, if completely diverse, folk on this thread ....... seriously. I find myself at times, for want of a better word, quite "envious". Me, I despise (literally) the bassa. Whether previous incumbents have all had their own agendas or otherwise. (and you don't have to be the Albert Einstein of politics to know that to be the case) Edited June 4, 2019 by J.T.F.Robertson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio Caine Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 2 hours ago, The Real Maroonblood said: True, then it could be turned into a Trump thread. ? Would probably end up as a Levein thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 24 minutes ago, Horatio Caine said: Would probably end up as a Levein thread More than likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidelight Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 10 hours ago, jake said: Syrian conflict Obama Free trading of slaves in Libya Obama The selling of enriched uranium Obama The biggest mass movement of troops in Eastern Europe Obama But pussy grab is the political debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE16 3LN Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Francis Albert said: He has accused Trump of being childish. This from the man who.promoted the silly Trump baby blimp. Is that your criticism of the London Mayor. I thought the party line was terrorist etc. etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdust Caesar Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 On 02/06/2019 at 00:27, jake said: See what bugs me is that it would be good if Mexicans wanted to cross out of a desire to travel. But the fact that not just Mexicans but people from every part of the world want to cross to Australia the US Europe is economic. And it will only get worse. I have to laugh at those who think they are progressive who claim who will clean our toilets. Mexicans Africans wouldn't want to go through the turmoil if we didnt condone the hegemony which promotes greed . A hegemony which takes us to war. A hegemony whichexcuses murder as long as we pretend we are on the paper thin difference in policy. This thread is an example of the delusion . I call you out not because I like Trump. But because you offer the same but just less vulgar. FFS Jake, some person came up with a different, and what I thought was funny, meaning of the acronym MAGA so I posted it, just for fun, I didn't expect that moralistic hissy fit. This thread is gonna give you an ulcer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortyJambo Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Sawdust Caesar said: FFS Jake, some person came up with a different, and what I thought was funny, meaning of the acronym MAGA so I posted it, just for fun, I didn't expect that moralistic hissy fit. This thread is gonna give you an ulcer. I saw someone from down south suggested that they should show their appreciation by coming up with their own MAGA version, Make England Great Again Trump Welcome Any Time Edited June 4, 2019 by PortyJambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 I assume all those protesting at Trumps visit were as vocal during visits from the Chinese and the Saudis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said: I assume all those protesting at Trumps visit were as vocal during visits from the Chinese and the Saudis? Or Putin or Mugabe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Or Putin or Mugabe? Appears it's trendier to abuse Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 12 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said: I assume all those protesting at Trumps visit were as vocal during visits from the Chinese and the Saudis? I believe they are still in the Paris agreement, unlike your BLOTUS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 1 minute ago, JackLadd said: I believe they are still in the Paris agreement, unlike your BLOTUS. He's not my anything and I don't know what a BLOTUS is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Just now, Ron Burgundy said: He's not my anything and I don't know what a BLOTUS is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 22 minutes ago, JackLadd said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 1 hour ago, PortyJambo said: I saw someone from down south suggested that they should show their appreciation by coming up with their own MAGA version, Make England Great Again Trump Welcome Any Time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 38 minutes ago, JackLadd said: One of his early lies was that he would be too busy to ever play golf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Melania Trump though, best dressed woman on earth and a total milf at 49, she'll be delighted to know she's in my top 5, maybe even top 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Armageddon said: Melania Trump though, best dressed woman on earth and a total milf at 49, she'll be delighted to know she's in my top 5, maybe even top 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 58 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said: Appears it's trendier to abuse Trump. Easier to do this than the lefty luvvies to do anything about Venezuela and their leader starving hundreds of thousands to death . probably because as soon as they touched down they would feel the warm love of the socialist governments- ie batons, tear gas, torture and incarceration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Corbin desperate to remain unelectable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Hahaha just listening to him there live on Sky, I love how he hates Corbyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 No Jeremy Corbyn No Jeremy Corbyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Two lovely looking ladies and a bloke in borrowed, ill-fitting clothes with a camel-toe above his bow tie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Armageddon said: Melania Trump though, best dressed woman on earth and a total milf at 49, she'll be delighted to know she's in my top 5, maybe even top 3. I don't know what you look like, but your competition is an obese 70-year old with an outrageous orange comb-over, so I'd say you're in with a shout. Go for it. "A faint heart ne'er won a fair lady." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said: I don't know what you look like, but your competition is an obese 70-year old with an outrageous orange comb-over, so I'd say you're in with a shout. Go for it. "A faint heart ne'er won a fair lady." Well, i'm not 70 .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitonastranger Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 2 hours ago, doctor jambo said: Easier to do this than the lefty luvvies to do anything about Venezuela and their leader starving hundreds of thousands to death . probably because as soon as they touched down they would feel the warm love of the socialist governments- ie batons, tear gas, torture and incarceration. The lefty luvvies as you describe them will and do protest against these regimes, it just doesn't suit your view. When was the last time you stood up and protested against anything outwith your own gain. These comments are usually made by people who do nothing but moan to ease their own consciences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Spitonastranger said: The lefty luvvies as you describe them will and do protest against these regimes, it just doesn't suit your view. When was the last time you stood up and protested against anything outwith your own gain. These comments are usually made by people who do nothing but moan to ease their own consciences. Do they? And as for protests, well, not my cup of tea really. generally the power mad with an agenda herding some sheep for their own, usually equally facile goals that would annoy other people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 15 minutes ago, doctor jambo said: Do they? And as for protests, well, not my cup of tea really. generally the power mad with an agenda herding some sheep for their own, usually equally facile goals that would annoy other people. Protests, marches, led by brave persons eased racial discrimination in USA, has also worked for womens rights, anti war protests against Vietnam war indicated the publics disagreement with involvement, LGBT protests made quite a difference and changed public perspective of queers, lezzies to the now acceptable Gay. There are protests that are just that, but one has to be careful not to throw out the baby with the bathwater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T.F.Robertson Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 46 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said: I don't know what you look like, but your competition is an obese 70-year old with an outrageous orange comb-over, so I'd say you're in with a shout. Go for it. "A faint heart ne'er won a fair lady." Ha ha. Well put, Ronaldo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T.F.Robertson Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, bobsharp said: Protests, marches, led by brave persons eased racial discrimination in USA, has also worked for womens rights, anti war protests against Vietnam war indicated the publics disagreement with involvement, LGBT protests made quite a difference and changed public perspective of queers, lezzies to the now acceptable Gay. There are protests that are just that, but one has to be careful not to throw out the baby with the bathwater. Way too much open-mindedness for this forum, Bob. Go to your room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpruceBringsteen Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Have to admit "luvvies" is one of the appropriated words that bams me right up. It means overeffusive actor, it doesn't (and will never) mean "some daftie from Islington with a sign" no matter how much Richard Littlejohn wants it to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 6 hours ago, Sawdust Caesar said: FFS Jake, some person came up with a different, and what I thought was funny, meaning of the acronym MAGA so I posted it, just for fun, I didn't expect that moralistic hissy fit. This thread is gonna give you an ulcer. Och I know. Moralistic hissy fit . Embarrassingly you are probably spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Just watched a bit of the Cricket World Cup game between Afghanistan and Sri Lanka. One Afghan supporter celebrated a boundary by holding up a bit of cardboard with "Trump is a knob" written on it. Seems like a fair judgement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Gordons Gloves Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 It's interesting to hear the Obama was just as bad as Trump arguments. Straight up, i liked Obama, i dislike Trump. Here's why. Obama attempted (and in many cases succeeded) in making the USA a more inclusive and tolerant place for many. You could feel the difference in the country. Trump on the other hand plays to people who have a view of the world whereby their kind should be elevated above all else. You can also feel the level of divisiveness and intolerance rise due to Trump's attitude and rhetoric. Obama (to my knowledge) didn't abandon any principles or ideals that he held in an all out effort to gain and stay in power, he had a genuine belief in trying to make the USA a better place. Trump only has one principle or ideal and that is Donald Trump and is quite happy to lend his support to any cause that pays enough for it - whether through providing cash to his campaign or in other ways. Obama was weak on foreign policy in the main and tried to foster relationships through understanding different views of the world , Trump's foreign policy is scattergun at best and insulting at worst. Obama began a rebuilding program to stimulate the economy for the good of all. Trumps economic policies have so far seen a decent return with the US economy being healthy but imo opinion, it's coming at a cost that we don;t yet know due to cuts in environmental protections, regulations on the finance industry and more. Was Obama the greatest president ever? Absolutely not but i'd rather have someone with a general desire to improve the lives of many as opposed to one with a general desire to improve his life and to hell with the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Placard just shown on Reporting Scotland. BOLT! YA MASSIVE WALLOPER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Was BLOTUS hiding his baby blimp under the tux? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 25 minutes ago, Victorian said: Placard just shown on Reporting Scotland. BOLT! YA MASSIVE WALLOPER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Hey, all the UK-based folks saying it doesn't matter what a US President does in your world? Enjoy those post-hard-Brexit negotiations when, in order to cut a deal with the US to save the UK economy, the Tories agree to privatize the NHS and open management contracts up to US healthcare management companies. https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/nhs-on-the-table They'll tell you it's needed to secure British independence from Europe. Enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 12 minutes ago, Ugly American said: Hey, all the UK-based folks saying it doesn't matter what a US President does in your world? Enjoy those post-hard-Brexit negotiations when, in order to cut a deal with the US to save the UK economy, the Tories agree to privatize the NHS and open management contracts up to US healthcare management companies. https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/nhs-on-the-table They'll tell you it's needed to secure British independence from Europe. Enjoy. Indeed. Nash from the spectre of a United States of Europe... get economically colonised by the USA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 13 minutes ago, Victorian said: Indeed. Nash from the spectre of a United States of Europe... get economically colonised by the USA. No no Trump always negotiates in good faith, just ask Mexico. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, Ugly American said: No no Trump always negotiates in good faith, just ask Mexico. Fair enough. We'll be offered the chance to become the 51st state... as long as we ban abortions and unban guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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