JackLadd Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Thought she would have hammered Trump more on his lies and cover up on when his last negative test was and his reckless behaviour infecting his whole White House, other than that she roasted him pretty well, even the fly was having a feast on a toasty Pence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 hour ago, DETTY29 said: Watched about 25 minutes and less questions answered directly than our lot. Indeed if our lot answered one each, they would have answered infinitely more. I was disappointed that Harris didn't have a response ready to the chat about stacking the Supreme Court. Surely they have an idea of what they want to do and can justify it on logical, democratic grounds? I'd be saying, "Hell, Yeah, I'm going to make sure that the SCOTUS reflects the wishes of the popular vote. I'm not going to force in a judge whose views are diametrically at odds with the country's sentiment". It's not as if (a) saying nothing will stop Trump shouting that that's their plan or (b ) voters will think stacking SCOTUS is any worse than what Trump's up to. Likewise, I was surprised that Pence didn't have anything to say about abortion in his own state. I thought he was a committed Christian, pro-life and all that. Chickened out, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Gentleman Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, I P Knightley said: I was disappointed that Harris didn't have a response ready to the chat about stacking the Supreme Court. Surely they have an idea of what they want to do and can justify it on logical, democratic grounds? I'd be saying, "Hell, Yeah, I'm going to make sure that the SCOTUS reflects the wishes of the popular vote. I'm not going to force in a judge whose views are diametrically at odds with the country's sentiment". It's not as if (a) saying nothing will stop Trump shouting that that's their plan or (b ) voters will think stacking SCOTUS is any worse than what Trump's up to. Likewise, I was surprised that Pence didn't have anything to say about abortion in his own state. I thought he was a committed Christian, pro-life and all that. Chickened out, though. Rule #1 of politics – never reveal your hand to your opponents. If they (the Dems) grab the senate and presidency they can add 2 Supreme Court positions and/or incorporate Puerto Rico and Washington DC into the federacy (what an ugly word). But 'ugly' is the name of the game in this imbroglio... Edited October 8, 2020 by John Gentleman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Harris and Pence. Two of the most odious horrible people alive. Cancer or Aids? Which would you prefer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 8 hours ago, JFK-1 said: I think Americans try to turn politics into some sort of entertainment whereas British politicians really go for the issues in a far more concise and professional manner. In the US It's like a TV show or Hollywood film which is one reason they elect an actor like Arnie as governor of California and an actor like Reagan plus an entirely unqualified reality TV host like Trump to president. Oprah was suggested as Democratic candidate for president for crying out loud. And countless other celebrities have been suggested to run. How many times have you seen Americans cry "(insert name) for president" every time there's a man of the moment so to speak? Could you envisage say Cilla Black running for leader of the Labour party then PM or Hugh Grant who actually played the PM in a film being elected PM? Can you imagine Trump facing say a Robin Day on question time? ..... unless you're implying she has more life about her the Corbyn !! 😉 Agree with your points though. It would be entertaining to have Trump interviewed by Andrew Neil ........ although Trump probably wouldn't turn up, and give some lame excuse - just like Boris did. Did anyone else pick up on the irony at the end of Trump's triumphalism yesterday when he spoke at the WH ? Claiming he feels better than he's done for years ..... a blessing from God that he caught the virus and then recovered ......and that it was him who ordered the medics to give him the wonder drugs. Then the ironic compassionate comment that he wants every American * to be given the same drugs. This after drowning out Biden in the debate by mocking his "socialized medicine" policy !! * ( you have to be white, rich and vote Republican to qualify). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 9 hours ago, JFK-1 said: I think Americans try to turn politics into some sort of entertainment whereas British politicians really go for the issues in a far more concise and professional manner. ..... Can you imagine Trump facing say a Robin Day on question time? Boris Johnson hid in a ****ing fridge to avoid being quesitoned and hid from Andrew Neil throughout the election campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 22 minutes ago, Barack said: Very good 😀 flies do like gathering on shite shouldn’t be a surprise where it landed tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Man, what a woeful state of affairs. The woman handling the debate was hopeless too. Pence looks like a ****ing Android. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey J J Jr Shabadoo Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 It appears Trump is too ill to do the virtual debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 hour ago, John Gentleman said: Rule #1 of politics – never reveal your hand to your opponents. If they (the Dems) grab the senate and presidency they can add 2 Supreme Court positions and/or incorporate Puerto Rico and Washington DC into the federacy (what an ugly word). But 'ugly' is the name of the game in this imbroglio... "Imbroglio" is also an ugly word You are, of course, correct. I'd just love it if someone had the balls-out confidence just to say, "This is what we're going to do. We're going to do it because it's right. We're going to do it because it's fair. We're going to do it because we know it's what the majority of you want. And, most of all, we're saying we're going to do it because we know it won't lose us a single vote." I just heard on the news that the organisation in charge of the debates (the master debaters?) have said the next debate will be done virtually. Very sensible, given that the White House has had more diagnosed cases in the last week than the whole of New Zealand and a host of other countries. I wouldn't want camera crews, stewards, moderators and others going within 100 metres of them. The big, bald, orange baby's toys will be out the pram. He's said before that he'll only do face-to-face with a live audience because he likes a mass debate. I wonder whether his refusal to take part virtually will go against him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Hope the organisers still go ahead with it and let tRump be a no show. Triggered tRump can tweet his answers in all caps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH11_2NL Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 2 hours ago, John Gentleman said: Rule #1 of politics – never reveal your hand to your opponents. If they (the Dems) grab the senate and presidency they can add 2 Supreme Court positions and/or incorporate Puerto Rico and Washington DC into the federacy (what an ugly word). But 'ugly' is the name of the game in this imbroglio... Natalie Imbroglio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, EH11_2NL said: Natalie Imbroglio. She bought me a coffee once and we had a very pleasant half hour sitting chatting. Or in my case mumbling and stammering as I tried not to stare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Gordons Gloves Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 He's already said he won't do the debate virtually and instead will hold a rally. Give it an hour or two and he'll have changed his mind. A rally for your already decided voters won't help him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwindonJambo Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 The Dems are now 2-1 on at the bookies and repubs 2-1 against. Biden has a consistent lead in polls of 10%+ and is predicted to win all 14 swing states except Texas. Trump is screwed. I wouldn't put anything past him in a bid to cling to power including contriving a situation and declaring a state of emergency. He is a despot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lovecraft Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, Heartsmad1874 said: Looks legit. It was originally from July. Facebook marked it as spam. Facebook FFS. That tells you how much bullshit it is. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jul/28/viral-image/opening-case-file-does-not-mean-joe-biden-criminal/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beni Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Compare and contrast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 35 minutes ago, Craig Gordons Gloves said: He's already said he won't do the debate virtually and instead will hold a rally. Give it an hour or two and he'll have changed his mind. A rally for your already decided voters won't help him. it would stroke is ego though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Rumors circulating the fly was actually a tiny drone controlled by the leftist Democrat Party, trying to put off Pence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 hour ago, SwindonJambo said: The Dems are now 2-1 on at the bookies and repubs 2-1 against. Biden has a consistent lead in polls of 10%+ and is predicted to win all 14 swing states except Texas. Trump is screwed. I wouldn't put anything past him in a bid to cling to power including contriving a situation and declaring a state of emergency. He is a despot. The Economist is predicting that there is a 99% chance that Biden will get the most votes, and a 91% chance that Biden will win the Electoral College. There is a very real possibility of a landslide victory for Biden. https://projects.economist.com/us-2020-forecast/president Whether or not Trump accepts the results of the election is a different matter, and I cannot imagine Trump EVER delivering a concession speech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Kamala Harris Promises To Decriminalize Marijuana and Expunge Records This right here? The tiniest sliver of what so many people want. It's not much, but to be fair, it's far more than what the GOP has on offer—which is to say, nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldar Hadzimehmedovic Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 14 hours ago, JFK-1 said: Not once have I seen anything coming on to this forum supporting Trump actually explain why. No attempt at even a single redeeming quality of this orange plague. I also suspect they're going to look ever more absurd when he's ejected from that office and has no no further scope to hinder investigation into him. The tax thing is just the tip of the criminal iceberg. A tip his own sister predicted would come to the surface when he was elected. She knew his taxes would get greater scrutiny than ever before exposing the tax scamming of the entire family over decades. The orange clown wouldn't listen to her and here it is, exactly what she said would happen. We're also going to see the current enablers run for cover trying to distance themselves from him in case they too get dragged into the criminal investigations coming his way. Because they don't support his ideas. The attraction for them is just the trolling and seeing people get wound up. The entire belief system of most people who support Trump is just "**** liberals" and that's about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, Eldar Hadzimehmedovic said: Because they don't support his ideas. The attraction for them is just the trolling and seeing people get wound up. The entire belief system of most people who support Trump is just "**** liberals" and that's about it. True. What you've just described is the actual Trump Derangement Syndrome. It's scary. “Own the Libs” Is Gradually Morphing Into “Kill the Libs” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 19 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said: The Economist is predicting that there is a 99% chance that Biden will get the most votes, and a 91% chance that Biden will win the Electoral College. There is a very real possibility of a landslide victory for Biden. https://projects.economist.com/us-2020-forecast/president Whether or not Trump accepts the results of the election is a different matter, and I cannot imagine Trump EVER delivering a concession speech. As a stats geek, I love that page! I've been looking at it every day for the last 2 or 3 weeks and find something new almost every day. The expected number of Democrat electoral college votes has risen by 4% since the shitshow of a 'debate' and there's been clear blue water between the two candidates since early June. The "chance of winning each state" graphic underneath the map of the US reads left to right as 'Places I P Knightley would ever consider visiting if he ever went back to the US' that I'd have drawn up before knowing their voting intentions. I was interested to read that the correlation between voting in California and Texas is stronger than California with New York. I suppose that goes back to the days of Ronnie Reagan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 13 minutes ago, Eldar Hadzimehmedovic said: Because they don't support his ideas. The attraction for them is just the trolling and seeing people get wound up. The entire belief system of most people who support Trump is just "**** liberals" and that's about it. And, as been pointed out repeatedly on this thread, what they view as being "liberal" would, in many other countries be considered a wee bit too Genghissyy for ttheir liking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Feck me. Feds say they thwarted militia plot to kidnap Whitmer; The alleged plot is described in federal court records obtained by The Detroit News on Thursday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Just some good people that were standing by per instruction. Pardons and commutations incoming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 4 hours ago, EH11_2NL said: Natalie Imbroglio. "Lying naked on the floor" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) Trump claims that his Illness was 'a blessing from god' Don't be shocked if he comes out with something along the lines of: God must have been looking after me. And the evangelicals will all proclaim that he's god's chosen leader of America. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-54455040 What a stroke of luck Trump getting Covid and making such a miraculous recovery in time for the election. Some boy, the Donald is. Edited October 8, 2020 by Jambo-Jimbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Trump claims that his Illness was 'a blessing from god' Don't be shocked if he comes out with something along the lines of: God must have been looking after me. And the evangelicals will all proclaim that he's god's chosen leader of America. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-54455040 What a stroke of luck Trump getting Covid and making such a miraculous recovery in time for the election. Some boy, the Donald is. Some of them already do. A couple of years ago I saw a program on TV where several people were asked about Trump as they were leaving church. One woman stated that Trump was chosen by Jesus, so "if he's good enough for Jesus he's good enough for me!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Senator Insider Trading is one of the biggest Trump sycophants in Congress. And as you can see, about as clever as a fence post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, maroonlegions said: Feck me. Feds say they thwarted militia plot to kidnap Whitmer; American radical left: Healthcare please, and cops stop killing us, thanks American radical right: Let's storm a state capitol and kidnap the governor Edited October 8, 2020 by Justin Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Donald Trump gives an outrageous interview to Fox Business Network host Maria Bartiromo where he is as incoherent as he is dishonest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalamazoo Jambo Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 8 hours ago, Barack said: Oh, wait. Yes, I do. Yep, wonder where these terrorists got their encouragement from? People on the right were recently complaining about the extra security being installed around the Governor's Mansion in Michigan. Wonder why that was needed... Also, in case this this wasn't clear to the non-Michiganders who read Kickback (gonna guess that's a majority), Gretchen Whitmer is more popular in Michigan that Donald Trump, largely due to her handling of the COVID-19 pandemic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 22 hours ago, JFK-1 said: Could you envisage say Cilla Black running for leader of the Labour party then PM or Hugh Grant who actually played the PM in a film being elected PM? Can you imagine Trump facing say a Robin Day on question time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, graygo said: Is that someone running for PM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 3 hours ago, JFK-1 said: Is that someone running for PM? Well, not quite but she did threaten to go up against Tony Blair for the leadership of the Labour party. 😋 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldar Hadzimehmedovic Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 FWIW, I'd love Hugh Grant to run for parliament. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Boy Named Crow Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 16 hours ago, Craig Gordons Gloves said: He's already said he won't do the debate virtually and instead will hold a rally. Give it an hour or two and he'll have changed his mind. A rally for your already decided voters won't help him. If he doesn't show up, there's already a tried and tested stand in... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey J J Jr Shabadoo Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 6 hours ago, JFK-1 said: Is that someone running for PM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Gentleman Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Barack said: This might come as a big shock. But he's not won the Nobel Prize. The Ig Nobel Prize perhaps? There's some crackers in there, particularly the narcissim/eyebrows prizewinners. 😉 Trump was a joint winner of the 'MEDICAL EDUCATION PRIZE'. He's got some truly awful company there. Edited October 9, 2020 by John Gentleman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beni Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 For the love of God will somebody think of the tiny fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterion Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 11 hours ago, JFK-1 said: Donald Trump gives an outrageous interview to Fox Business Network host Maria Bartiromo where he is as incoherent as he is dishonest. Just announced he is going to be on Fox again tonight - this time via video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 2 hours ago, fancy a brew said: For the love of God will somebody think of the tiny fish. No way is that real? It must be out of context or something? But even then.... how could it be? Is he genuinely off his face? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Barack said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 22 minutes ago, Barack said: I miss being able to post Gifs. Why can't you post gifs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beni Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, Lovecraft said: Why can't you post gifs? As far as Trump's comments go, there's a kernel of truth regarding water extraction and the environment, but as usual he's offering a simplistic solution to a complicated problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, fancy a brew said: As far as Trump's comments go, there's a kernel of truth regarding water extraction and the environment, but as usual he's offering a simplistic solution to a complicated problem He's addressing Americans, makes sense to dumb things down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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