Norm Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, The Real Maroonblood said: You'll probably never hear from him/her again. That's 'cause The Hilldog has got to them. Edited July 13, 2020 by Normthebarman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Are people seriously denying that Clinton who visited Epsteins island on numerous occasions along with others didnt know or were involved with the pimping of children? And taking bets on it? Really is this the level of denial. And that Hilary Clinton knew nothing That none of any political party knew nothing? This is what nips my nut. No doubt Trump isnt fit . But to flat out dismiss the blatantly obvious about the corruption and criminality of the political class and the elite because the arsehole in the White House means we have to absolve the rest as better. He Trump is a symptom not a cause for fecks sake. I hate this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, jake said: Are people seriously denying that Clinton who visited Epsteins island on numerous occasions along with others didnt know or were involved with the pimping of children? And taking bets on it? Really is this the level of denial. And that Hilary Clinton knew nothing That none of any political party knew nothing? This is what nips my nut. No doubt Trump isnt fit . But to flat out dismiss the blatantly obvious about the corruption and criminality of the political class and the elite because the arsehole in the White House means we have to absolve the rest as better. He Trump is a symptom not a cause for fecks sake. I hate this thread I have seen no one trying to absolve anyone of anything you say. But there are no accusations being aimed at Clintons and even if there were who would care? There are no Clintons running for president. Trump is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 20 minutes ago, jake said: Are people seriously denying that Clinton who visited Epsteins island on numerous occasions along with others didnt know or were involved with the pimping of children? And taking bets on it? Really is this the level of denial. And that Hilary Clinton knew nothing That none of any political party knew nothing? This is what nips my nut. No doubt Trump isnt fit . But to flat out dismiss the blatantly obvious about the corruption and criminality of the political class and the elite because the arsehole in the White House means we have to absolve the rest as better. He Trump is a symptom not a cause for fecks sake. I hate this thread Do you have any evidence to suggest otherwise? The documentary on epstein was fascinating, and what was most interesting was what the island staff had to say. Not one of them claimed a Clinton was there while bad stuff was happening when it would have been the easiest thing in the world to come out with, it was what the world wanted to hear. In fact they all said the opposite, that no one saw anything or anyone untoward while one of them was present. All the "oh come on!" innuendo in the world doesn't change the fact that it was a full time paradise playground luxury island for a very rich man who had frequent guests, as well as being an occasional beast's lair when the right people were around, but these were 2 sepatate rhings. Many people visited that island, it doesn't mean they're all beasts. But if you're so sure, give us your best evidence ("oh come on!" doesn't cut it, innuendo is nothing) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldar Hadzimehmedovic Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, jake said: Are people seriously denying that Clinton who visited Epsteins island on numerous occasions along with others didnt know or were involved with the pimping of children? And taking bets on it? Really is this the level of denial. And that Hilary Clinton knew nothing That none of any political party knew nothing? This is what nips my nut. No doubt Trump isnt fit . But to flat out dismiss the blatantly obvious about the corruption and criminality of the political class and the elite because the arsehole in the White House means we have to absolve the rest as better. He Trump is a symptom not a cause for fecks sake. I hate this thread NIce try. Nobody I can see is defending Clinton. Anyone caught up in this, from either side of the political divide, deserves everything they get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 4 hours ago, jake said: Are people seriously denying that Clinton who visited Epsteins island on numerous occasions along with others didnt know or were involved with the pimping of children? And taking bets on it? Really is this the level of denial. And that Hilary Clinton knew nothing That none of any political party knew nothing? Some evidence would be appreciated. Why are the Clintons even an issue? He was three presidents ago. Is it possible that the Clintons are being used as a distraction from Trump's behaviour? And I'm ready for a bet. You can't produce evidence that Hilary Clinton is guilty of child abuse or condoned child abuse or was involved in any child abuse ring. Name your terms. Jake, you have several times said that you have no time for Trump, but you're sure quick to jump to his defence, even in this current discussion where Trump has clearly consorted with paedophiles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 4 hours ago, Maple Leaf said: Guess who was a pal of Epstein? Clue: that isn't Obama in the picture. 2 hours ago, Maple Leaf said: This picture was taken at Mar-a-Lago. What a sordid bunch of reprobates. Those 2 pictures of the Trumps look remarkably similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Just now, graygo said: Those 2 pictures of the Trumps look remarkably similar. Not similar enough to be anything sinister like a cut and paste though. They're obviously taken within a short time of each other, all four are wearing the same clothes in both photos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 9 hours ago, Sharpie said: I would suggest that before making a starkly libelous statement such as that without direct evidence and witness support I would think that you are in jeopardy of a if not costly very embarrassing law suit. Exactly! A shocking post and something DT would say at his rallies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, jake said: Are people seriously denying that Clinton who visited Epsteins island on numerous occasions along with others didnt know or were involved with the pimping of children? And taking bets on it? Really is this the level of denial. And that Hilary Clinton knew nothing That none of any political party knew nothing? This is what nips my nut. No doubt Trump isnt fit . But to flat out dismiss the blatantly obvious about the corruption and criminality of the political class and the elite because the arsehole in the White House means we have to absolve the rest as better. He Trump is a symptom not a cause for fecks sake. I hate this thread So we just convict on hearsay and vendetta, now. Evidence has left the building. I hate this world where someone can destroy anyone with the click of a finger and people just believe it. No smoke and shit shit sticks on social media is the new campaign trail. Trump can **** off and hopefully the USA can sort itself out again. Trump is worse than Covid19 for that once Great Place. Pity they don't have new up and coming Politic ideas coming through, instead of Joe feck Biden. But I suppose he'll have to do til then. And Stop listening to the likes of Alex Jones, Jake, he's a fecking scumbag. Edited July 14, 2020 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 1 hour ago, ri Alban said: And Stop listening to the likes of Alex Jones, everyone, he's a fecking scumbag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 4 hours ago, ri Alban said: So we just convict on hearsay and vendetta, now. Evidence has left the building. I hate this world where someone can destroy anyone with the click of a finger and people just believe it. No smoke and shit shit sticks on social media is the new campaign trail. Trump can **** off and hopefully the USA can sort itself out again. Trump is worse than Covid19 for that once Great Place. Pity they don't have new up and coming Politic ideas coming through, instead of Joe feck Biden. But I suppose he'll have to do til then. And Stop listening to the likes of Alex Jones, Jake, he's a fecking scumbag. Hold on. Folk don't still listen to Alex Jones, do they? I'd have thought folk would have started throwing him the deaf ear after he finally came clean he was full of shit. "School shootings were fake!" "See you court, you lying fat sack of shit" "I was only joking! Of course they happened!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 15 minutes ago, Normthebarman said: Hold on. Folk don't still listen to Alex Jones, do they? I'd have thought folk would have started throwing him the deaf ear after he finally came clean he was full of shit. "School shootings were fake!" "See you court, you lying fat sack of shit" "I was only joking! Of course they happened!" My next door neighbour's a moon howler, I mean he literally goes out into his garden at 3am and shouts at the sky about being the 51st state. Loves Alex Jones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Smithee said: My next door neighbour's a moon howler, I mean he literally goes out into his garden at 3am and shouts at the sky about being the 51st state. Loves Alex Jones. Does he have relations in Hamilton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, Smithee said: My next door neighbour's a moon howler, I mean he literally goes out into his garden at 3am and shouts at the sky about being the 51st state. Loves Alex Jones. If you'd never heard of him and tuned in to his show, you'd be forgiven if you thought you were watching the US version of "Alan Partridge". It's like US TV execs have looked at Partridge, thought "Funny, but we need to make him more relatable to a US audience. Turn him up to 11." and ended up with Alex Jones. Unfortunately, the folk watching him missed the pre-programme announcement that it's fiction and think it's a genuine broadcast. It's incredible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Normthebarman said: If you'd never heard of him and tuned in to his show, you'd be forgiven if you thought you were watching the US version of "Alan Partridge". It's like US TV execs have looked at Partridge, thought "Funny, but we need to make him more relatable to a US audience. Turn him up to 11." and ended up with Alex Jones. Unfortunately, the folk watching him missed the pre-programme announcement that it's fiction and think it's a genuine broadcast. It's incredible. He's an evil b*%*%*d playing on simple minds to get money out of them. Imagine the pain he inflicted on the families of the Sandy Hook school shooting massacre when he claimed it wasn't even real. A hoax. These people are burying their children while this piece of shit tells the world they're actors who have lost nothing. Quote The Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting occurred on December 14, 2012, in Newtown, Connecticut, United States, when 20-year-old Adam Lanza shot and killed 26 people, including 20 children between six and seven years old, and six adult staff members. Imagine the grief that would have been inflicted on parents if a freak like that had said the same thing after Dunblane and millions were believing it. Actually abusing and threatening them online. Quote In December 2016, Lucy Richards, a woman from Tampa, was charged with four counts of transmitting threats in interstate commerce for sending death threats to Lenny Pozner, whose son Noah was the youngest of 20 children murdered Quote Alex Jones on InfoWars, denied that the massacre actually occurred, asserting that it was "completely fake." (After being sued by some parents of the victims, Jones reversed his stance and admitted that the massacre was real.) Quote Trump appeared on InfoWars during his presidential campaign and lavished praise on Jones, saying that the conspiracy theorist had an "amazing" reputation and pledged not to let him down. On February 20, 2017, the Newtown School Board wrote to President Trump and urged him to recognize the murders of 26 people at Sandy Hook and to "remove your support from anyone who continues to insist that the tragedy was staged or not real." Trump did not respond to the letter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jambo-Jimbo Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 13 hours ago, graygo said: Those 2 pictures of the Trumps look remarkably similar. 12 hours ago, Smithee said: Not similar enough to be anything sinister like a cut and paste though. They're obviously taken within a short time of each other, all four are wearing the same clothes in both photos. They were both taken on the 12 February 2000 at a party Donald Trump hosted at Mar-a-Lago. Just as a point of note and may be of interest. Virginia Roberts, the girl in the now famous photo with Prince Andrew, and has alleged that they had sex, well just a matter of months before the above photos were taken, was worked at Mar-a-Lago as a 15/16 yr old Spa Attendant, in fact it's where she alleges that she was procured by Ghislaine Maxwell for Epstein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 4 hours ago, JFK-1 said: He's an evil b*%*%*d playing on simple minds to get money out of them. Imagine the pain he inflicted on the families of the Sandy Hook school shooting massacre when he claimed it wasn't even real. A hoax. These people are burying their children while this piece of shit tells the world they're actors who have lost nothing. Imagine the grief that would have been inflicted on parents if a freak like that had said the same thing after Dunblane and millions were believing it. Actually abusing and threatening them online. What does anyone hope or expect to gain by acting like that? As you say, an evil barsteward but with many evil barstewards, I can work out what's in it for them. Not with this one, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 24 minutes ago, I P Knightley said: What does anyone hope or expect to gain by acting like that? As you say, an evil barsteward but with many evil barstewards, I can work out what's in it for them. Not with this one, though. Money. Last I heard he has around 3 million or so 'followers' who hang on his every word. It comes down to there being millions out there who prefer conspiracy to indisputable reality. And will accept the conspiracy with little or zero evidence to support it. No matter how absurd the proposition is. As for the prevalence of the mentality of those who believe fantastic conspiracy despite voluminous evidence proving it false. Well you see some of the kind even here on JKB across multiple topics. Jones has a far larger audience to draw from than JKB does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trotter Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 2 hours ago, I P Knightley said: What does anyone hope or expect to gain by acting like that? As you say, an evil barsteward but with many evil barstewards, I can work out what's in it for them. Not with this one, though. Infowars is/was not only a shitey 'news' site, he used it more like an 'As Seen On TV' show for hawking equally shitey goods. More crazy viewers = more idiots willing to part with their cash. John Oliver did an excellent segment on how crazy he and his channel appear to be, it's actually a worrying well-organized way of relieving people of their hard-earned which is definitely worth a watch if you have a spare 20 mins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey J J Jr Shabadoo Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 https://mobile.twitter.com/RVAT2020/status/1282751649480466434?s=09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 29 minutes ago, Joey J J Jr Shabadoo said: https://mobile.twitter.com/RVAT2020/status/1282751649480466434?s=09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey J J Jr Shabadoo Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 7 hours ago, JFK-1 said: Cheers, how do you embed videos? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 20 hours ago, JFK-1 said: As for the prevalence of the mentality of those who believe fantastic conspiracy despite voluminous evidence proving it false. Well you see some of the kind even here on JKB across multiple topics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Tne stupidity of Trump has infected the entire nation. His dimwitted conspiracy nut attitude from the beginning has now made them the coronavirus epicentre of the world. Quote Florida is the new domestic epicenter of the coronavirus pandemic, and it's on track to keep getting worse. By the numbers: Of the 20 U.S. metro areas with the highest daily case growth, nine are in Florida, according to Nephron Research. Driving the news: The state health department announced 132 new deaths yesterday, the most the state has seen since the pandemic began. Between the lines: Deaths lag several weeks behind new cases, and cases are skyrocketing. The state on Sunday announced more than 15,000 new cases, shattering the single-day case records in New York and California. Florida now has more confirmed cases, adjusted for population, than New York ever had — although New York's true caseload was almost certainly multiple times higher than its official one. Zoom in: "Miami is now the epicenter of the pandemic. What we were seeing in Wuhan five or six months ago, now we are there,” said Lilian Abbo, an infectious disease specialist at the University of Miami, earlier this week. Orlando, Fort Lauderdale, Fort Myers-Cape Coral, Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, West Palm Beach-Boca Raton, Sarasota-Bradenton, Jacksonville and Pensacola are also in the top 20 metro areas, as of July 12. What we're watching: Hospitals are filling up, Disney World is open and the state is imposing minimal social distancing requirements. Democratic Rep. Donna Shalala told Bloomberg that the state should consider a three-week shutdown. “We’re in a very difficult situation at the moment, and unless we step back and reset our strategy, a lot more people are going to die.” https://www.axios.com/florida-coronavirus-cases-deaths-2ce489c7-3eb8-4675-8a42-5b2306e7023a.html And here's a perfect example of why Florida is spiraling out of control. VIDEO: 'You call me selfish for not wearing a mask?' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 8 hours ago, Joey J J Jr Shabadoo said: Cheers, how do you embed videos? Click on the tweets timestamp then copy the address from the address bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 26 minutes ago, JFK-1 said: Tne stupidity of Trump has infected the entire nation. His dimwitted conspiracy nut attitude from the beginning has now made them the coronavirus epicentre of the world. And here's a perfect example of why Florida is spiraling out of control. VIDEO: 'You call me selfish for not wearing a mask?' **** America Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Patriotism seems to be a big thing in The United States of America, yet they let Trump do as he pleases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 19 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Patriotism seems to be a big thing in The United States of America, yet they let Trump do as he pleases. Extreme patriotism is part of their problem. They like to declare themselves "the greatest country in the world." That's absurd, there is no greatest country. But what it leads to is if they have areas in which other countries are doing better than they are how can they then say let's copy that country when we're already the greatest? At everything. Wouldn't that be admitting well we're not the greatest at this thing, that thing, and many other things? The Republicans are the worst offenders when it comes to driving this deranged mentality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, JFK-1 said: Tne stupidity of Trump has infected the entire nation. His dimwitted conspiracy nut attitude from the beginning has now made them the coronavirus epicentre of the world. And here's a perfect example of why Florida is spiraling out of control. VIDEO: 'You call me selfish for not wearing a mask?' Sadly there are many thousands just like them all over America. Here is Sky's Alex Crawford getting an ear full from an anti-masker (Skip to 3:13 if you don't want to watch the whole report). Edited July 15, 2020 by Jambo-Jimbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Sadly there are many thousands just like them all over America. Here is Sky's Alex Crawford getting an ear full from an anti-masker (Skip to 3:13 if you don't want to watch the whole report). It's voluntary insanity. You can see the crazy in full view as soon as the Trump catch phrase 'deep state' comes into it. Then "when you pass out don't ask me for help because i'm not going to help you" How wonderful it would be if health workers could respond with when you get covid don't ask me for help because i'm not going to help you. Ask the deep state for help. I don't see how they can ever get covid under control with a nut just as crazy as they are in the White House. I foresee this developing from a disaster into an uncontrollable catastrophe when Winter comes. Research suggests the virus prefers lower temperatures and there will be the flu season running alongside it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 22 minutes ago, JFK-1 said: Extreme patriotism is part of their problem. They like to declare themselves "the greatest country in the world." That's absurd, there is no greatest country. But what it leads to is if they have areas in which other countries are doing better than they are how can they then say let's copy that country when we're already the greatest? At everything. Wouldn't that be admitting well we're not the greatest at this thing, that thing, and many other things? The Republicans are the worst offenders when it comes to driving this deranged mentality. That "Manifest Destiny" bollocks they've been yelling about for hundreds of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Yet another Republican group campaigning against Trump and for Biden. It's becoming like a snowball running downhill gathering pace and mass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdust Caesar Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 55 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Sadly there are many thousands just like them all over America. Here is Sky's Alex Crawford getting an ear full from an anti-masker (Skip to 3:13 if you don't want to watch the whole report). The authorities should have used reverse psychology. Come out with a statement that says 'we don't want people to wear masks as that screws with our face-recognition software on our CCTV cameras which means we cannot identify you and keep you monitored.' I reckon all the Deep State believers would then wear a mask in defiance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 54 minutes ago, JFK-1 said: It's voluntary insanity. You can see the crazy in full view as soon as the Trump catch phrase 'deep state' comes into it. Then "when you pass out don't ask me for help because i'm not going to help you" How wonderful it would be if health workers could respond with when you get covid don't ask me for help because i'm not going to help you. Ask the deep state for help. I don't see how they can ever get covid under control with a nut just as crazy as they are in the White House. I foresee this developing from a disaster into an uncontrollable catastrophe when Winter comes. Research suggests the virus prefers lower temperatures and there will be the flu season running alongside it. I also had to chuckle when she put on the fake posh English accent, obviously trying to be derogatory towards Alex, thinking that as she was from Sky News she must be English. Alex Crawford is African, she was born in Nigeria & is based and lives in South Africa. Probably just as well she didn't point this out to the stupid anti-masker, as I wouldn't be shocked or surprised if the answer would have been, you can't be African, you're white. That is how thick & stupid these people are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 9 minutes ago, Sawdust Caesar said: The authorities should have used reverse psychology. Come out with a statement that says 'we don't want people to wear masks as that screws with our face-recognition software on our CCTV cameras which means we cannot identify you and keep you monitored.' I reckon all the Deep State believers would then wear a mask in defiance. True though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sawdust Caesar Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 21 minutes ago, JFK-1 said: Yet another Republican group campaigning against Trump and for Biden. It's becoming like a snowball running downhill gathering pace and mass. I'm beginning to think that these groups are more concerned about the Republican party and not the country. They know that if Trump gets another term then he has to try and fix the damage he's caused and if he he fails, which is more than likely, it could damage the Republican party for a long time. If Biden gets in he will have to fix all the damage in his first term and if he can't the Dems will get slaughtered for it, even though that would be unfair to him as fixing the shit-show he would be left with may not be something that can be done in one term. I'm maybe doing these groups a disservice but I would have thought they would campaign for the GOP to pressure Trump to resign or for them to put up another candidate to run for president. Can they do that or are they stuck with Trump if he refuses to budge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey J J Jr Shabadoo Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 2 hours ago, JFK-1 said: Click on the tweets timestamp then copy the address from the address bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trotter Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Sawdust Caesar said: I'm beginning to think that these groups are more concerned about the Republican party and not the country. They know that if Trump gets another term then he has to try and fix the damage he's caused and if he he fails, which is more than likely, it could damage the Republican party for a long time. If Biden gets in he will have to fix all the damage in his first term and if he can't the Dems will get slaughtered for it, even though that would be unfair to him as fixing the shit-show he would be left with may not be something that can be done in one term. I'm maybe doing these groups a disservice but I would have thought they would campaign for the GOP to pressure Trump to resign or for them to put up another candidate to run for president. Can they do that or are they stuck with Trump if he refuses to budge? I asked this very question to my missus (a Republican) a few weeks ago. Apparently there is nothing to stop the Republican Party putting forward another candidate against him at the RNC, however it is tie-consuming and messy to do - especially at this late stage. Moreover, she can't think of any time in US history when a party that has the presidency has put up a challenger to the incumbent come re-election time. EDIT: Its only happened once, back in 1852 when his own party got sick and tired of him. https://www.npr.org/sections/politicaljunkie/2009/07/a_president_denied_renominatio.html Edited July 15, 2020 by trotter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 21 minutes ago, Sawdust Caesar said: I'm beginning to think that these groups are more concerned about the Republican party and not the country. They know that if Trump gets another term then he has to try and fix the damage he's caused and if he he fails, which is more than likely, it could damage the Republican party for a long time. If Biden gets in he will have to fix all the damage in his first term and if he can't the Dems will get slaughtered for it, even though that would be unfair to him as fixing the shit-show he would be left with may not be something that can be done in one term. I'm maybe doing these groups a disservice but I would have thought they would campaign for the GOP to pressure Trump to resign or for them to put up another candidate to run for president. Can they do that or are they stuck with Trump if he refuses to budge? I don't doubt for a moment that a major concern is the party rather than the country, and perhaps the major concern for them. But in the circumstances I and everybody else will take that. There is no way Trump will step back voluntarily, criminal charges are awaiting him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boof Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 See this pardoning of convicted criminals thing (which is a bit of a bizarre concept, IMO)...can the incoming President UNpardon them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdust Caesar Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 1 hour ago, trotter said: I asked this very question to my missus (a Republican) a few weeks ago. Apparently there is nothing to stop the Republican Party putting forward another candidate against him at the RNC, however it is tie-consuming and messy to do - especially at this late stage. Moreover, she can't think of any time in US history when a party that has the presidency has put up a challenger to the incumbent come re-election time. EDIT: Its only happened once, back in 1852 when his own party got sick and tired of him. https://www.npr.org/sections/politicaljunkie/2009/07/a_president_denied_renominatio.html Thanks for that. I wish they would though, just to troll him. 1 hour ago, JFK-1 said: I don't doubt for a moment that a major concern is the party rather than the country, and perhaps the major concern for them. But in the circumstances I and everybody else will take that. There is no way Trump will step back voluntarily, criminal charges are awaiting him. Agreed, if it helps Biden win then I'm all for them sticking the knife into Trumplethinskin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: I also had to chuckle when she put on the fake posh English accent, obviously trying to be derogatory towards Alex, thinking that as she was from Sky News she must be English. Alex Crawford is African, she was born in Nigeria & is based and lives in South Africa. Probably just as well she didn't point this out to the stupid anti-masker, as I wouldn't be shocked or surprised if the answer would have been, you can't be African, you're white. That is how thick & stupid these people are. The deep sate is taking over, soon if she wants to buy groceries she will have to wear a mask. Walmart, the worlds largest retailer, just announced that from Monday all customers must wear masks. And in such a conspiracy crazed nation littered with gun wackos wait for the shootings to start. It already started. Quote Three family members have been charged in the killing of a security guard who told a customer at a Michigan Family Dollar store to wear a state-mandated face mask, officials said on Monday. https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/04/us/michigan-security-guard-mask-killing-trnd/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 While Trump carries on pretending the virus is going to disappear, 'a miracle'. And bashes the actual experts presumably for not believing in miracles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Z Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Boof said: See this pardoning of convicted criminals thing (which is a bit of a bizarre concept, IMO)...can the incoming President UNpardon them? No. In legalese the presidential pardon power is "plenary"—absolute. There's no power of reversal. An incoming president could direct his Department of Justice to open an investigation into some other crime the convicted criminal committed. Historically, politicians have shied away from doing that kind of thing, for better of for worse, because of the appearance of going after your political enemies. Now? Who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 What's the matter with people and the reluctance to wear a mask? Do these people not realise that one wears a mask to protect others? It's nothing to do with "freedom" or a person's rights. You wear a mask to reduce the chance of YOU infecting someone else. It's courtesy, if nothing else. In Ontario it's illegal to enter a public building without a mask. That includes stores, banks, office buildings, pubs, etc. Every building has a bottle of sanitiser inside the door, and a sign asking people to sanitise their hands before going any further. Everybody does it. It's for our own good. I was out and about this morning and went to a bank and three stores. I was out of the house for approximately an hour. The only people I saw not wearing a mask were driving their car. But they donned a mask before they got out of the car. The precautions are working; infections and deaths have nose-dived in Ontario. Trump has blood on his hands. He is more concerned about his re-election than the health of Americans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 3 hours ago, Sawdust Caesar said: The authorities should have used reverse psychology. Come out with a statement that says 'we don't want people to wear masks as that screws with our face-recognition software on our CCTV cameras which means we cannot identify you and keep you monitored.' I reckon all the Deep State believers would then wear a mask in defiance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 (edited) I have the Mary Trump book in electronic and audio format. It's absolutely damning and i'm only through the prologue which was so damning it's scarcely credible this is even a real person and not a deranged fictional character she's talking about. This man has multiple mental/psychological issues and inadequacies including a learning disability. A quote. Quote in an attempt to make sense of Donald’s often bizarre and self-defeating behavior. I have no problem calling Donald a narcissist—he meets all nine criteria as outlined in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders . Meeting only four of the criteria typically suggests a narcissistic personality, he meets all nine. And narcissism isn't his only issue. He's a sociopath and even more. Reading this is actually somewhat frightening. How in the world could this happen in a leading nation. The lunatic has literally taken over the asylum. Edited July 15, 2020 by JFK-1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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