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Governor Tarkin
12 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

What’s Trump up to these days?

 

Opening a chain of backstreet abortion clinics.

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The Real Maroonblood
14 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said:

 

Opening a chain of backstreet abortion clinics.

:rofl:

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Joey J J Jr Shabadoo
17 minutes ago, milky_26 said:

Pardoning Conrad Black

Horrible people these right wingers. Priorities have gone to pot. 

 

ETA https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://amp.theguardian.com/business/2018/jul/18/conrad-black-trump-book-support-pardon&ved=2ahUKEwi89v3txZ_iAhVzs3EKHfYRClwQFjAAegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw3YZc2it3QOSlQ6LY-aHarY&ampcf=1

Black's brown nosing seems to have worked. 

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Bindy Badgy
39 minutes ago, milky_26 said:

Pardoning Conrad Black

 

My favourite Have I Got News For You clip

 

 

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10 hours ago, jake said:

And the desperation of this thread is astounding.

It's like double speak.

Liberals arguing that the most vulnerable have the least rights.

You know Jake, your surly guerrilla superiority thing is turning you into a right bore 

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Maple Leaf
5 hours ago, Joey J J Jr Shabadoo said:

 

Yes, it was predictable. Trump and Black have been pals for years, and when Black's flattering book about Trump was published last year, the pardon was only a matter of time. Both are a couple of egomaniacs.

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Jake, what is your view on the Donald Trump administration having a policy where in the processing of illegal immigrants and asylum seekers they remove from their parents living, breathing, functioning childen, and it is admitted that  some of these children because of inadequate record keeping may never be reunited again. This again is all part of the old Build That Wall election promise that Trump made to the same people who are so set for the other discussion. They are what is referred to as Trumps base. Trumps basic motivation is to satisfy his inflated ego, his narcissism, and his desire for power.

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9 hours ago, Smithee said:

You know Jake, your surly guerrilla superiority thing is turning you into a right bore 

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3 hours ago, bobsharp said:

Jake, what is your view on the Donald Trump administration having a policy where in the processing of illegal immigrants and asylum seekers they remove from their parents living, breathing, functioning childen, and it is admitted that  some of these children because of inadequate record keeping may never be reunited again. This again is all part of the old Build That Wall election promise that Trump made to the same people who are so set for the other discussion. They are what is referred to as Trumps base. Trumps basic motivation is to satisfy his inflated ego, his narcissism, and his desire for power.

I dont like Trump Bob or his policies.

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1 hour ago, jake said:

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I respect your right Jake to air your opinions, but I am a bit confused, You find it abhorrent to remove an unborn child from its mother, but if I read you correctly you are against Trumps policy and he personally is the instigator of removing living children from their parents. Is it the method of one practise to wit the surgical aspect of abortion, with what could be perceived as the less physical action of the family seperation. Both are Trump policies, and even worse he has made a practise of selecting similarly opined judges to side with him when the policies are legally challenged.

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20 hours ago, jake said:

Scientific fact and not religious far right extremists such as those in the Christian belt of the US or the neo nazi muslims of the middle east show the suffering of aborted children.

 

Scientifically proven fact.

Proponents on across the political spectrum, abortion debate Et.al, recognise that scientific advancement has revealed many amazing understandings about human life. However, science alone is unable to determine the ultimate questions about the sanctity of life and death.

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Governor Tarkin
1 hour ago, alfajambo said:

Proponents on across the political spectrum, abortion debate Et.al, recognise that scientific advancement has revealed many amazing understandings about human life. However, science alone is unable to determine the ultimate questions about the sanctity of life and death.

 

I think our views on abortion will be miles apart in a practical sense, but ethically, I agree completely with this particular point.

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bUt We NeEd To PrOtEcT tHe MoSt VuLnErAbLe

 

I'm From Alabama And Gave Birth to My Rapist's Child Because I Couldn't Get an Abortion

 

I was 17 when I was raped by a classmate. He was someone I knew, someone I trusted, but in the end, none of that mattered. I would not find out until eight months later that I was pregnant as a result of the assault. My daughter, Zoe, would grow inside of me with a fatal congenital birth defect that took away her ability to think, or emote, or connect to the world in all the fundamental ways that make a life worth living.

 

aLaBaMa'S aBoRtIoN lAw Is PrO-fEmInIsM

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Maple Leaf

Trump has removed his tariffs on steel and aluminum from Canada and Mexico.

 

His new-NAFTA would never have been ratified while those tariffs were in place.

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54% of respondants say they "definitely will not vote" for Trump in 2020.

 

Hard to say never, but even with a warped electoral college result that's basically impossible to overcome in an honest vote. And I don't see those numbers changing all that much.

 

Which is why voter suppression and election meddling will be at rates we haven't seen since the Voting Rights Act was passed in 2020.

 

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/numbers-from-new-q-poll

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Watched this mornings no show Hearing with Congress. Nadler I thought made an excellent presentation, the Republican reply was more of the same denial, denial, denial, and all the bad people are out to get Donald Trump.  I hope they realise they are complicit in this mans illegal, manipulative and dishonest behaviour, it may not happen today, or even in my time on this earth, but at some stage there will be answering to do as to why they allowed him to do the things he does.

I wish they would sit and look at some of the film of the late thirties, and the similarity in rethoric, the promises, and the victims, and most importantly the complete denial of the complicity in the happenings of that era. What goes around comes around.

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1 hour ago, Ugly American said:

54% of respondants say they "definitely will not vote" for Trump in 2020.

 

Hard to say never, but even with a warped electoral college result that's basically impossible to overcome in an honest vote. And I don't see those numbers changing all that much.

 

Which is why voter suppression and election meddling will be at rates we haven't seen since the Voting Rights Act was passed in 2020.

 

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/numbers-from-new-q-poll

 

I'm surprised, but pleased, that it's that high.

 

I would have guessed at 35-40% definitely against, a similar range definitely for, with the election being decided by the remaining 20-30%.  And who the undecideds will vote for will depend on who the Democratic candidate is.

 

With 18 months to go, much too soon to call, imo.

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Respectable Republican politicians do exist--they're not just the stuff of fairy tales.

 

 

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Maple Leaf
6 hours ago, Justin Z said:

Respectable Republican politicians do exist--they're not just the stuff of fairy tales.

 

 

 

OK, that's one!!

 

There are 53 Republican Senators, and a further 199 Republicans in the House. Let's see how many of those side with Amash.  If I was a betting man, I'd say none.

 

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Trump walks out of scheduled talks with Pelosi and  Schumer regarding infrastructure.  Apparently was extremely angry about being accused of doing a cover up,says he doesn't do cover ups. Absolutely true, he pays likes of his faithful trusted friend and lawyer Cohen to do it for him. Tries to get people like McGahn to fire investigators, fires people like Sessions who won't. I am satisfied he got explosively angry, one of the first signs of a potential serious mental breakdown. He will leave the Oval office at some point not televised, under escort.

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New York state refuses Trump's attempts to block the subpoenas.

:jjyay:

 

A lawyer for the Congressional committees argued that the subpoenas were misconstrued as solely targeting the president and his family, saying they’re part of a “complex investigation across a whole industry, not just Mr Trump.”

He also hit back against claims from Trump that it’s an overreach to subpoena his family members.The lawyer said people use family members to hide assets.

“They put them in the names of their grandchildren,” he said, providing a general example of how people conceal assets.

“This is what people committing financial fraud do,” he also said generally of hiding assets.

 

:jjyay:  :jjyay:

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4 hours ago, Cade said:

New York state refuses Trump's attempts to block the subpoenas.

:jjyay:

 

A lawyer for the Congressional committees argued that the subpoenas were misconstrued as solely targeting the president and his family, saying they’re part of a “complex investigation across a whole industry, not just Mr Trump.”

He also hit back against claims from Trump that it’s an overreach to subpoena his family members.The lawyer said people use family members to hide assets.

“They put them in the names of their grandchildren,” he said, providing a general example of how people conceal assets.

“This is what people committing financial fraud do,” he also said generally of hiding assets.

 

:jjyay:  :jjyay:

 

It's a witch hunt!!

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20 minutes ago, JackLadd said:

Dump must sense jail time if he loses 2020. Criminal exposure.

 

His best bet is to come clean, plead guilty and then pardon himself while he's still President. ;)

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1 hour ago, redjambo said:

 

His best bet is to come clean, plead guilty and then pardon himself while he's still President. ;)

 

The crook will try it if he can't block the truth.

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Trump should have stayed away from Politics. Arrogance and greed, the  twins of destiny for most would be dictators.

Suicide or handcuffs are in the terminal waiting room at destination Karma.

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Maple Leaf
8 hours ago, ri Alban said:

Trump should have stayed away from Politics. Arrogance and greed, the  twins of destiny for most would be dictators.

Suicide or handcuffs are in the terminal waiting room at destination Karma.

 

Sorta sums him up, doesn't it.

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Just watched Nancy Pelosi giving a talk and answering questions. She has never been high in my estimation, but this morning she changed that. She again asked for prayers for the president, she stated again that he is involved in a cover up, she stated that his behaviour yesterday was not what one should expect from the President. She then stated quite clearly that the Presidents family and aides should conduct some form of intervention for him as he needs help.

She is pretty smart she knows he wants an Impeachment investigation to garner more sympathy. Despite many in her party wanting this I feel she wants to continue the what I would in some cases call the harrassment about all his weaknesses, finances, income tax, obstruction etc. they are having affects on his actions and most obviously on his mental health.

In a life of dealing with people I have met many bad bad men, cruel, nasty vindictive, and have dealt with them without concern, but I can honstly say I have also met fewer women with these attributes, but have no shame iin admitting they scaredthe bejesus out of me. Donald cup your head in your hands and run like a scalded cat, because hell approaches, and its wearing a skirt.

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16 hours ago, ri Alban said:

Trump should have stayed away from Politics. Arrogance and greed, the  twins of destiny for most would be dictators.

Suicide or handcuffs are in the terminal waiting room at destination Karma.

Outdone yourself there .

In the shite post game.

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5 hours ago, bobsharp said:

Just watched Nancy Pelosi giving a talk and answering questions. She has never been high in my estimation, but this morning she changed that. She again asked for prayers for the president, she stated again that he is involved in a cover up, she stated that his behaviour yesterday was not what one should expect from the President. She then stated quite clearly that the Presidents family and aides should conduct some form of intervention for him as he needs help.

She is pretty smart she knows he wants an Impeachment investigation to garner more sympathy. Despite many in her party wanting this I feel she wants to continue the what I would in some cases call the harrassment about all his weaknesses, finances, income tax, obstruction etc. they are having affects on his actions and most obviously on his mental health.

In a life of dealing with people I have met many bad bad men, cruel, nasty vindictive, and have dealt with them without concern, but I can honstly say I have also met fewer women with these attributes, but have no shame iin admitting they scaredthe bejesus out of me. Donald cup your head in your hands and run like a scalded cat, because hell approaches, and its wearing a skirt.

What's he covering up?

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7 minutes ago, jake said:

What's he covering up?

 

Why is he blocking every legal Congressional subpoena?

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1 hour ago, jake said:

What's he covering up?

 

He is covering up his unatural relationship as U.S.President with the Russian leader Putin, who admitted quite openly in Helsinki with a smile on his face that he had wanted Trump to be elected. He also made a more veiled comment that his people may have assisted.

Trump is also covering up by refusing to allow people to speak to Congress. Primarily the lawyer McGahn who stated to Mueller that Trump had asked him to fire Mueller, which would be obstruc tion of justice. Mueller had stated that he would not proceed with action but would leave this and other matters to Congresss who are more capable at taking action than he could with a sitting President. Trump will not allow people who have already given information to Mueller to be interviewed in Hearings by Congress.

In his personal life, Trump has made no effort to provide his income tax information or any of his financial dealings with banks, and the possibility of money from questionable sources, e.g money being laundered through his real estate holdings.

He stated quite bluntly on TV yesterday that he does not do cover ups, Stormy Daniels and the other female and the actions taken to conceal or cover up those relationships prove the contrary.

I could write even more, but I know Jake you are not stupid, you re either just being provocative, or you do not want to admit that the man is an incompetent, dishonest, mafiosa type character, who tries to defeat everything by sheer bullheadedness, intimidation and if required and acceptable financial bribery.

But in the inerests of maintaining a peaceful relationship as they do here on this side of the pond say, "Have a nice day Jake."

 

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6 hours ago, jake said:

Outdone yourself there .

In the shite post game.

:thumbsup:High praise indeed, from the Master. Don't worry, I don't won't your shite post title, yet. You're still a couple of Divisions above. Then there's the Premier Division, where Donald Trump and Nigel Farage compete. 

 

Promotion is just around the corner.

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About to call another national emergency........this time to force through arms sales to the Saudis.

 

:vrface:

 

BTW the UK is also getting around the international arms embargo by using a Germany shell company to supply parts for fighter bomber aircraft to the Saudis.

 

Millions of Yemenis remain in danger of starvation.

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The Real Maroonblood
27 minutes ago, Cade said:

About to call another national emergency........this time to force through arms sales to the Saudis.

 

:vrface:

 

BTW the UK is also getting around the international arms embargo by using a Germany shell company to supply parts for fighter bomber aircraft to the Saudis.

 

Millions of Yemenis remain in danger of starvation.

If it wasn’t so serious it would be laughable.

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Governor Tarkin
2 hours ago, Cade said:

About to call another national emergency........this time to force through arms sales to the Saudis.

 

:vrface:

 

BTW the UK is also getting around the international arms embargo by using a Germany shell company to supply parts for fighter bomber aircraft to the Saudis.

 

Millions of Yemenis remain in danger of starvation.

 

Absolutely criminal.

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Maple Leaf
3 hours ago, bobsharp said:

North Korea out of the negotiations.

 

I wonder if Trump still loves Kim. ?

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Maple Leaf
22 hours ago, Barack said:

Kardashian? Or the other boy?

 

One fat boy with a funny haircut in love with .... another fat boy with a funny hair cut.

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10 hours ago, Maple Leaf said:

 

One fat boy with a funny haircut in love with .... another fat boy with a funny hair cut.

Ladies and gentlemen, Mr Elton John.

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Stephen Muddie

I don't like all of his policies and I don't like the way he goes about things at times but I respect his bullishness. He's Donald Trump, he's always forged his own path... I'm hopin to catch up with Ann Coulter soon-ish to discuss how he has "betrayed" people like her who believed in his MAGA promise, which without the racist connotations I believed in too.

But what I DO like is that he does keep a lot of promises and is working on the others, even despite Israeli influence.

As a man, I like him. He shoots from the hip.

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5 hours ago, Stephen Muddie said:

I don't like all of his policies and I don't like the way he goes about things at times but I respect his bullishness. He's Donald Trump, he's always forged his own path... I'm hopin to catch up with Ann Coulter soon-ish to discuss how he has "betrayed" people like her who believed in his MAGA promise, which without the racist connotations I believed in too.

But what I DO like is that he does keep a lot of promises and is working on the others, even despite Israeli influence.

As a man, I like him. He shoots from the hip.

I don't trust men who have unnatural urges towards their daughter. Then go on TV and bag about it.

 

****ing deviant.

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The Real Maroonblood
6 minutes ago, Joey J J Jr Shabadoo said:

I don't trust men who have unnatural urges towards their daughter. Then go on TV and bag about it.

 

****ing deviant.

:clap:

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Francis Albert
On ‎23‎/‎05‎/‎2019 at 23:41, bobsharp said:

 

He is covering up his unatural relationship as U.S.President with the Russian leader Putin, who admitted quite openly in Helsinki with a smile on his face that he had wanted Trump to be elected. He also made a more veiled comment that his people may have assisted.

Trump is also covering up by refusing to allow people to speak to Congress. Primarily the lawyer McGahn who stated to Mueller that Trump had asked him to fire Mueller, which would be obstruc tion of justice. Mueller had stated that he would not proceed with action but would leave this and other matters to Congresss who are more capable at taking action than he could with a sitting President. Trump will not allow people who have already given information to Mueller to be interviewed in Hearings by Congress.

In his personal life, Trump has made no effort to provide his income tax information or any of his financial dealings with banks, and the possibility of money from questionable sources, e.g money being laundered through his real estate holdings.

He stated quite bluntly on TV yesterday that he does not do cover ups, Stormy Daniels and the other female and the actions taken to conceal or cover up those relationships prove the contrary.

I could write even more, but I know Jake you are not stupid, you re either just being provocative, or you do not want to admit that the man is an incompetent, dishonest, mafiosa type character, who tries to defeat everything by sheer bullheadedness, intimidation and if required and acceptable financial bribery.

But in the inerests of maintaining a peaceful relationship as they do here on this side of the pond say, "Have a nice day Jake."

 

Is an unnatural relationship different from a special one? Is our (and the American)  relationship with the Saudis and Emirates unnatural or special?

I don't dispute much of the rest of your post but I think the American outrage over the Russian relationship (whatever exactly it is) is about the biggest piece of hypocrisy I have known. As you know the US has a long history of interference in foreign elections and foreign politics and foreign regime changes going back at least to the turn of the last century often with bloody and disastrous consequences, involving all administrations and all Presidents, perhaps none less than Saint Kennedy of Boston in his brief period of office.

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Maple Leaf

Andrew Scheer is the leader of the Conservative Party in Canada.  He has been compared, by many, to Donald Trump and white nationalists at Scheer's political rallies have been extremely prominent. Here's what he said to them at his rally yesterday:

 

“I believe that we are all children of God. And therefore there can be no inferiority amongst human beings. And that equal and infinite value exists in each and every one of us,” he said. “I find the notion that one’s race, religion, gender or sexual orientation would make anyone in any way superior or inferior to anyone else absolutely repugnant.

“And if there’s anyone who disagrees with that, there’s the door. You are not welcome here.”

 

What are the chances of Trump saying something similar?

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