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1 hour ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

I fear that the Trump Presidency has managed to open the preverbal pandora's box and all manner of the lunatic fringe has been unleashed, they have had a taste of power and they liked it and they want more.

 

Most people, me included, thought that sanity would return with the election of Biden, but that doesn't appear to be happening, and it seems to me that it's the loony's who seem to be driving the narrative and sanity is playing catch up.

 

If Trump or one of his acolytes get back in, then be warned, as the title of the wonderful song goes 'you ain't seen nothing yet', they will have learnt where they went wrong and this time they won't relinquish power.

 

Exactly.

Just the Beer Hall Putsch in 1923, the forces of darkness will learn what they did wrong, come back better organised and actually achieve their terrible plans.

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On 31/08/2021 at 07:23, Mysterion said:

 

Sky News Australia makes Sky News UK look positively pulitzer prize standard. 

Trying to work out why the Ozzy Sky News are doing a hatchet job on Biden (pretty sure not for the first time) - is this a Murdoch thing?

 

I've watched it all and it's really weakly argued nonsense.

 

The clips they've lined up - 

Clip 1 - Biden with the Israel PM - was cut to make it look like he was dozing when he wasn't. 

Genuinely had no idea that Sky News Australia was a black hole for journalism. 

 

Been like that for a long time, they're not a news channel they're a propaganda, (fake news) outlet. And I too find it somewhat puzzling since UK sky is a reputable professional news source. But then the puzzle becomes clearer when you discover Murdoch is no longer affiliated with Sky UK, but is with Sky Australia.

It might be said that Murdoch is an even bigger problem than Trump is. If Trump were to be usurped by someone even crazier but more importantly smarter than Trump, which wouldn't be difficult, Murdoch would fuel up that crazy train too. All the way to the buffers at high speed.

This is an evaluation of Sky News UK from the media bias fact check site. 
 

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Overall, we rate Sky News UK Least Biased based on balanced news coverage and a reasonably balanced op-ed page. We also rate them High for factual reporting due to a reasonable fact check record.

Bias Rating: LEAST BIASED
Factual Reporting: HIGH
Country: United Kingdom (35/180 Press Freedom)
Media Type: TV Station
Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: HIGH CREDIBILITY

Sky News is owned by Comcast as of November 2018 and is funded through advertising. Rupert Murdoch is no longer affiliated with Sky News UK, however, Newscorp still has a share of Sky News Australia, which reports with a right-leaning bias.


Now an evaluation of Sky News Australia.
 

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Overall, we rate Sky News Australia Right-Biased based on story selection and editorial positions that mostly favor the right. We also rate them borderline Questionable and Mixed for factual reporting due to several failed fact checks, unproven claims, and the promotion of conspiracy theories and misinformation.

Bias Rating: RIGHT
Factual Reporting: MIXED
Country: Australia (25/180 Press Freedom)
Media Type: TV Station
Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: MEDIUM CREDIBILITY

Overall, we rate Sky News Australia Right-Biased based on story selection and editorial positions that mostly favor the right. We also rate them borderline Questionable and Mixed for factual reporting due to several failed fact checks, unproven claims, and the promotion of conspiracy theories and misinformation.


Murdoch is the problem. Even his own son James has said he's destroying the US. Which is exactly why James Murdoch is no longer involved with the Murdoch empire.

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The Mighty Thor

I see on Twitter today that whilst Biden, Obama & Clinton are all in New York paying their respects, Trump is commentating on a PPV boxing match that his laddie Don Jr is hawking on Twitter with the promise that his old man will be telling everyone about area 51.

 

On 9/11.

 

:facepalm:

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The orange buffon has just spoken whilst visiting NY police dept on 9/11, as usual his words were pure wisdom.

 

Rigged election, stolen election, I told the Taliban straight, rigged election, jobs, jobs, stock market, numbers nobody ever though possible, rigged election, Taliban were eating out my hand.

 

P.S. Did I mention rigged election.

 

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Hannity suggesting that President Biden either, retire, resign or be removed, and Kamala along with him. I would think he has someone in mind to take over, but who could that be. 

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Bob Woodward and co author Costa have just released their new book on Trumps last days as President.It is claimed that in his last day Trump ordered all U.S troops to be withdrawn from Afghanistan the military talked him into countermanding that order.. General Miley ordered that any Trump orders go through he and that nothing Trump orders be carried out  . The word insanity comes up in the book, the news channels are covering it closely, its a shocker, but nothing that some of us didn't suspect at the time. Pelosi is quoted and she also opines that Trump has mental problems . 

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10 hours ago, Sharpie said:

Bob Woodward and co author Costa have just released their new book on Trumps last days as President.It is claimed that in his last day Trump ordered all U.S troops to be withdrawn from Afghanistan the military talked him into countermanding that order.. General Miley ordered that any Trump orders go through he and that nothing Trump orders be carried out  . The word insanity comes up in the book, the news channels are covering it closely, its a shocker, but nothing that some of us didn't suspect at the time. Pelosi is quoted and she also opines that Trump has mental problems . 

Doubt it'll even register with his supporters.  If they could be reasoned out of their love for Trump, it'd have happened a long, long time ago. We are dealing with an uncharted level of stupidity with these people...

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According to Bob Woodward, Trump told Pence if he didn't overthrow the election results he "didn't want to be his friend anymore". 😆

It's tragic that the president trying to subvert democracy is seen as normal now, but it's still kinda funny that the most powerful man in the world dishes out threats like a petulant school girl.

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10 hours ago, A Boy Named Crow said:

Doubt it'll even register with his supporters.  If they could be reasoned out of their love for Trump, it'd have happened a long, long time ago. We are dealing with an uncharted level of stupidity with these people...

 I agree somewhere around 18th September there is talk of there being another large action by Trump's more violent support, even some reports of activists attending armed.

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Just now, Sharpie said:

 I agree somewhere around 18th September there is talk of there being another large action by Trump's more violent support, even some reports of activists attending armed.

 

Hope the nutters try another coup. 🍿🍿🍿🍿

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1 hour ago, Sharpie said:

 I agree somewhere around 18th September there is talk of there being another large action by Trump's more violent support, even some reports of activists attending armed.

 

1 hour ago, JackLadd said:

 

Hope the nutters try another coup. 🍿🍿🍿🍿

 

Yeah I wish they'd STFU and get on with it, I want to see them shit their pants live as they realise how much they've bitten off.

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Joe Biden appears to have forgotten the Australian prime minister's name during the announcement of a nuclear submarine deal between the US, UK and Australia.

 

Not a good look for the US president,  but I reckon Morrison is secretly hoping "That fella down under" sticks. He's been known as "Scotty From Marketing" here for years!

 

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/sep/16/joe-biden-forgets-scott-morrisons-name-during-historic-pact-announcement

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21 hours ago, Sharpie said:

 I agree somewhere around 18th September there is talk of there being another large action by Trump's more violent support, even some reports of activists attending armed.

 

Whatever happened to the August "uprising" that was being predicted?  Or was it June or July........

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1 hour ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

Whatever happened to the August "uprising" that was being predicted?  Or was it June or July........

  Washington DC is at the moment preparing fences around the Capitol and White House, the National Guard has been asked for and all police leaves cancelled. The demonstrations are set to take place September 18, when the participants will be protesting the actions being taken against six hundred of the January sixth Insurrectionists.

I apologise if I caused you any inconvenience in my erroneous stating of an August, or even June or July, date. As I was in my extensive police days I am only as good as my informants, however like a good sniper you managed to  take aim out of your concealment and take an opportunity to snipe. 

 

This action has been anticipated by law enforcement for months, informants have been advising that various groups also associated with the 6th January incident have been talking regularly. News channels have been reporting it as I with good intent but with no personal contact with law enforcement or others, Trump and his support have been consistently repeating the rigged election story, and a recent news item stated that 74% of Republicans  have supported his claims.

 

It was a matter of interest that the recent California recall election to remove the Governor would give a reading on Trump support, although California is heavily Democrat it was thought it may show any swing in support. Newsom  the sitting Governor a Democrat did in fact win in a landslide.

 

Just so there is no misunderstanding, I am no expert and do not claim high levels of knowledge in the Politics of the United States. I am an avid news watcher, and Kickback being my main source for comment and conversation will pass what I hear on those news channels, I would not expect anyone to be sitting in anticipation of occurrences based on my posts, or to be honest sitting waiting for an opportunity to criticise. Sometimes I do wish I was in Edinburgh and have some of the discussions face to face. 

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 I only asked whatever happened to the planned riots the Dems and usual suspects in the media were predicting to take place. Oh yes, they never happened. All the prep work is no doubt the handiwork of Madeline Burke (from Blindspot) AKA Pelosi. How you get on to Newsom and California is anyones guess. 

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8 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 I only asked whatever happened to the planned riots the Dems and usual suspects in the media were predicting to take place. Oh yes, they never happened. All the prep work is no doubt the handiwork of Madeline Burke (from Blindspot) AKA Pelosi. How you get on to Newsom and California is anyones guess. 

 You are allowing a serious personality problem to interfere with your comments.Let me answer reasonably . If as you state the planned demonstrations did not take place, why other than to be mischievous did you even ask.

 Your comment about Pelosi I am sorry it just doesn't make sense.

 

I referred to Newsom in California as it was seen as a possible guide to any changes in voting because of current events. Republicans presented a strong candidate for the election. If there had been a dramatic change in California voting, it could mean a difference in the upcoming midterm elections.

 

If you take a high level of pleasure in baiting me, thats fine, it casts no negative on me or my opinions, it however does not cast a strong light on yourself a proud man no doubt who declines to even use his own name when on attack mode. It is indeed complimentary in a way that I still have the ability to irritate someone to the level I have you. Nemo Me Impune Laccessit.

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45 minutes ago, Sharpie said:

 You are allowing a serious personality problem to interfere with your comments.Let me answer reasonably . If as you state the planned demonstrations did not take place, why other than to be mischievous did you even ask.

 Your comment about Pelosi I am sorry it just doesn't make sense.

 

I referred to Newsom in California as it was seen as a possible guide to any changes in voting because of current events. Republicans presented a strong candidate for the election. If there had been a dramatic change in California voting, it could mean a difference in the upcoming midterm elections.

 

If you take a high level of pleasure in baiting me, thats fine, it casts no negative on me or my opinions, it however does not cast a strong light on yourself a proud man no doubt who declines to even use his own name when on attack mode. It is indeed complimentary in a way that I still have the ability to irritate someone to the level I have you. Nemo Me Impune Laccessit.

 

Wow, just wow. That's some accusation you make there. I'm not in the least interested in baiting you as you suggest. So I'll take my leave from any further discourse with you. 

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14 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

Wow, just wow. That's some accusation you make there. I'm not in the least interested in baiting you as you suggest. So I'll take my leave from any further discourse with you. 

Grow up ffs , stop acting like a wee bairn 

 

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12 minutes ago, Jeffros Furios said:

Grow up ffs , stop acting like a wee bairn 

 

 

I'll not bother taking any advice from you old chap. Thanks for butting in though. 

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1 hour ago, Deke Thornton said:

Biden and the Dems are making sure Trump will be back in ‘24.

:facepalm:

 

What has happened?

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I doubt the fat old granny will even be alive in 2024. Be class seeing the intellectually stunted screwballs scream it was down to THE ELITE ILLUMINATI COMMUNISTS though, rather than "too many cakes"

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1 hour ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

What has happened?

 

The United States if a person would be committed to a facility for those suffering mental illness. You have a former President who is still harping on about an election he lost having been rigged. He makes inflamatory statements about the election, and its all for the benefit of those who would seek violence to revoke the results. 

 On the other side you have a very elderly gentleman who has difficulty making his verbal presentations, he loses his train of thought, fights to clear his throat, and loses his place in his notes. The Border Security issue has run amok, thousands crossing illegally daily, more fodder for his critics. His role in the Afghanistan evacuation was a disaster, now the Taliban are being described as ruthless murderers, thieves, and anything else criminal that can be used in a descriptive manner. He has appointed a Vice President, that has virtually disappeared, and who it is believed has authority and responsibility for the Border management. 

The Republicans praise Trump, and admire his proposed actions if the Treaty with the Taliban was not being upheld by they, his solution was to act militarily, and bomb them into oblivion. Not bad for a man who signed a Treaty to end a twenty year war. 

Groups such as the Pretty Boys and others of the same ilk, are just waiting orders to repeat the actions of January sixth. The two political parties are diametrically opposed, and the political emotions and feelings are threatening to become personal. It really is a sad, and frightening situation, for me, I have no cards in the game, but its like being on traffic duty and seeing two cars heading for each other and you can do nothing about it.

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47 minutes ago, Sharpie said:

 

The United States if a person would be committed to a facility for those suffering mental illness. You have a former President who is still harping on about an election he lost having been rigged. He makes inflamatory statements about the election, and its all for the benefit of those who would seek violence to revoke the results. 

 On the other side you have a very elderly gentleman who has difficulty making his verbal presentations, he loses his train of thought, fights to clear his throat, and loses his place in his notes. The Border Security issue has run amok, thousands crossing illegally daily, more fodder for his critics. His role in the Afghanistan evacuation was a disaster, now the Taliban are being described as ruthless murderers, thieves, and anything else criminal that can be used in a descriptive manner. He has appointed a Vice President, that has virtually disappeared, and who it is believed has authority and responsibility for the Border management. 

The Republicans praise Trump, and admire his proposed actions if the Treaty with the Taliban was not being upheld by they, his solution was to act militarily, and bomb them into oblivion. Not bad for a man who signed a Treaty to end a twenty year war. 

Groups such as the Pretty Boys and others of the same ilk, are just waiting orders to repeat the actions of January sixth. The two political parties are diametrically opposed, and the political emotions and feelings are threatening to become personal. It really is a sad, and frightening situation, for me, I have no cards in the game, but its like being on traffic duty and seeing two cars heading for each other and you can do nothing about it.

Excellent post. 

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59 minutes ago, Ked said:

Are the media ignoring or covering up for Biden.

It's just not right and there is no way he is in charge.

 

 

In my humble opinion the conservative media neglect to mention any of Trump weaknesses and failings, but comment on all of Bidens.

In my humble opinion the liberal media neglect to mention any of Bidens weaknesses and failings but comment on all of Trumps.

Meanwhile I watch them both, realise that they are practising political propaganda, and try with the meagre means I have available intellectually to make some sense and compromise out of both. It is difficult because Trump primarily contains just about everything that I see in a horrible person. Biden unfortunately who may be quite a nice man to meet socially, and having been in his age group in the past realise that he just does not really have what it takes to be the leader of a massive nation, with extreme world responsibilities.

 

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46 minutes ago, Sharpie said:

 

In my humble opinion the conservative media neglect to mention any of Trump weaknesses and failings, but comment on all of Bidens.

In my humble opinion the liberal media neglect to mention any of Bidens weaknesses and failings but comment on all of Trumps.

Meanwhile I watch them both, realise that they are practising political propaganda, and try with the meagre means I have available intellectually to make some sense and compromise out of both. It is difficult because Trump primarily contains just about everything that I see in a horrible person. Biden unfortunately who may be quite a nice man to meet socially, and having been in his age group in the past realise that he just does not really have what it takes to be the leader of a massive nation, with extreme world responsibilities.

 

I just watch newsnight bbc and itv news.

I suppose I wouldn't expect bbc and itv flagship to question Biden and they took a while to raise eyebrows at Trump.

But newsnigh ?

It's not that he doesnt cut it .He is obviously ill and that means he is not running the show.

So who is ?

And that isnt right.I obviously am not qualified but it's so obvious.

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2 hours ago, JackLadd said:

At least Biden isn't a narcissistic psychopath.

 I have said all along that I quite like Joe Biden elderly man. He is everything morally Trump wasn't, and possibly even as little as ten years ago would have been a very good President, but he just isn't the man for todays job. Its dificult to see who is going to replace he and Trump in the future, no shining stars in the Presidential sky.

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38 minutes ago, Sharpie said:

 I have said all along that I quite like Joe Biden elderly man. He is everything morally Trump wasn't, and possibly even as little as ten years ago would have been a very good President, but he just isn't the man for todays job. Its dificult to see who is going to replace he and Trump in the future, no shining stars in the Presidential sky.

 

You should check the Montreal Cognitive test that Trump thought was hard and then ponder he had nuke codes. 

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8 hours ago, JackLadd said:

 

You should check the Montreal Cognitive test that Trump thought was hard and then ponder he had nuke codes. 

 I didn't know it was available, but certainly heard him boast about passing it. It is the sort of thing I would keep quiet about that I had to even take the test.

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16 hours ago, Sharpie said:

 I didn't know it was available, but certainly heard him boast about passing it. It is the sort of thing I would keep quiet about that I had to even take the test.

 

It's probably the only test he ever passed himself, he had to brag about it.

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