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[JFK-1]

Max Brooks and Kristen Soltis Anderson join Bill to discuss why Vladimir Putin waited until after "his boyfriend" Donald Trump left office to invade Ukraine.

 

 

[JFK-1]

Thomas Homer-Dixon, Executive Director of the Cascade Institute at Royal Roads University in British Columbia and author of the book "Commanding Hope: The Power We Have to Renew a World in Peril," joins David to discuss his recent writing that the US could be a right wing dictatorship by 2030.

 

 

[JFK-1]

Some shocking footage from the attack on the capitol in the first few minutes of this video. With specific voices from the mob and exactly what they're saying being singled out. All of them, and Trump, should be in prison.

The first documentary about Nancy Pelosi, the powerful and polarizing Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives.

 

 

 

[JFK-1]

I still get the feeling the net is slowly closing on Trump.

 

Trump ENDS McCarthy entire career as Jan 6 panel catches him using 'burner phone' to call Kevin

 

 

 

[Cade]

Trump's phone records handed over to the investigation panel have a SEVEN HOUR blank space.

Convenient.

 

Trump claims to not even know what a burner phone is.

 

Strange.

 

 

[JFK-1]

Trump, after being exposed as a man trying to shred the notes for a specific period of time in excess of 7 hours as an insurrection took place.

Now decides to go for broke by asking his old pal Putin for help again. It's ironic that the dangerous insanity of Trump and the current Republican party is so ludicrous at a base level it's ready made for comedians. 

 

 

 

 

 

[Maple Leaf]

On 30/03/2022 at 02:18, JFK-1 said:

I still get the feeling the net is slowly closing on Trump.

 

Trump ENDS McCarthy entire career as Jan 6 panel catches him using 'burner phone' to call Kevin

 

 

 

 

I hope you're right, but as long has Trump has a grovelling Republican Party and a compliant SCOTUS, who will bring him to justice?

 

In the unlikely event that charges are laid against Trump and he is found guilty of some criminal act, the next Republican president will simply pardon him.

[Watt-Zeefuik]

2 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said:

 

I hope you're right, but as long has Trump has a grovelling Republican Party and a compliant SCOTUS, who will bring him to justice?

 

In the unlikely event that charges are laid against Trump and he is found guilty of some criminal act, the next Republican president will simply pardon him.

Exactly. It's only going to matter if we make it matter, and right now the rest of the GOP has just decided that it doesn't care about crimes if it lets them narrowly hold onto power as their electoral minority shrinks.

[JFK-1]

11 hours ago, Maple Leaf said:

 

I hope you're right, but as long has Trump has a grovelling Republican Party and a compliant SCOTUS, who will bring him to justice?

 

In the unlikely event that charges are laid against Trump and he is found guilty of some criminal act, the next Republican president will simply pardon him.

 

I harbour similar reservations given that he has done multiple things that would have instantly ended the career of probably nay other politician. Can you imagine the screams from they're side if say Obama had been the one grabbing pussies, sucking up to Putin and so much more.

Trump has always slithered out by simply lying even when the lie was obvious then moving on. But this is different, this wont simply go away as Trump tries to create another shit storm to distract from it. And lying can get you jail time as this progresses.

 

Some are probably already looking at jail time, Steven Bannon for example, and others will jump ship if that threat comes to their door. And there have to be some in that party among the higher echelons who are thinking is this what we are? A joke of a party with an orange criminal clown at the head while touting every far fetched conspiracy theory out there in fruitcake land?

 

Screaming Lord Sutch was more credible as a leader than Trump and his monster raving loony part more credible than the current Republicans, and that's no exaggeration.

And outside the Republicans the establishment surely they can't let this fly. We know for a fact now there has been a criminal conspiracy to overthrow the US g9vernment and the ring leader is still pushing the same absurd lies. Lies which are destroying their political and social landscape.

The January 6th committee are doing a far better job that I suspected they would. I believe there may be a lot more to come that's even more damning. While in just the past couple of days we have evidence that the wife of a supreme court justice is either batshit crazy or fully on board with a coup attempt.

And, the husband of that woman Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas was the only one of nine to vote against passing vital documentation to the committee. The entire Republican loony bin is melting down.

Then we discover Trump didn't communicate for almost 8 hours on January 6th. A day when everyone else in DC and probably across the world was glued to TV and phones texting and calling like crazy. Trump sent not as much as a text.

And who would believe that? I know you don't, and I can't see any sane person having any other opinion. If this were a trial do you think a jury would believe it? 

See I now think the Republicans are starting to accept that Trump and his crazy gang are destroying them. You think Trump turning to his old pal Putin right at the moment Putin is carrying out war crimes pleases them? It's destroying them and Trump wont stop because he couldn't care less about anything but himself.

This can lose them the mid terms big time and they know it. They made their bed and now they don't know how to get out of it. And I believe even Trump may be starting to shit his pants over this.

 

 

[JFK-1]

McConnell Knows Evidence Against Justice Thomas Is 'Damning'

 

 

 

[Maple Leaf]

17 minutes ago, JFK-1 said:

McConnell Knows Evidence Against Justice Thomas Is 'Damning'

 

 

 

 

Clarence Thomas is a disgrace as a judge.  He doesn't even try to hide his biases.  

 

And his biases come from his far-right wife.

[JFK-1]

 

[Jambo-Jimbo]

23 hours ago, JFK-1 said:

Trump, after being exposed as a man trying to shred the notes for a specific period of time in excess of 7 hours as an insurrection took place.

Now decides to go for broke by asking his old pal Putin for help again. It's ironic that the dangerous insanity of Trump and the current Republican party is so ludicrous at a base level it's ready made for comedians. 

 

 

Is that asking Putin to dish any dirt he has on Hunter/Joe Biden.

 

Does Trump think that if Hunter Biden or even Joe were up to their necks in sleaze, that he'll (Trump) be re-instated as President.

Trump better be careful asking Putin to dish the dirt, as methinks Putin might have loads on Trump.

[Seymour M Hersh]

26 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

Is that asking Putin to dish any dirt he has on Hunter/Joe Biden.

 

Does Trump think that if Hunter Biden or even Joe were up to their necks in sleaze, that he'll (Trump) be re-instated as President.

Trump better be careful asking Putin to dish the dirt, as methinks Putin might have loads on Trump.

 

He doesn't have to as all they need is on the junkie's lap top. Even the left leaning MSM have finally admitted all the stuff on the lap top is accurate. 

[Sharpie]

1 hour ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

He doesn't have to as all they need is on the junkie's lap top. Even the left leaning MSM have finally admitted all the stuff on the lap top is accurate. 

I must be seeing the same news as you are. Hard to say if the President actually knew about the transactions, but there is enough of a scent in my opinion that Biden should possibly have thought closely about running for President with the possibility  of his name being used to obtain large sums of money by his son. If the stated sums are positive, it is really outstanding. 

[Maple Leaf]

1 hour ago, Sharpie said:

I must be seeing the same news as you are. Hard to say if the President actually knew about the transactions, but there is enough of a scent in my opinion that Biden should possibly have thought closely about running for President with the possibility  of his name being used to obtain large sums of money by his son. If the stated sums are positive, it is really outstanding. 

 

When you think of the candidates for President in the last two elections .... Clinton or Trump, then Biden or Trump ... it makes one wonder WTF has happened to that country?

[Sharpie]

6 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said:

 

When you think of the candidates for President in the last two elections .... Clinton or Trump, then Biden or Trump ... it makes one wonder WTF has happened to that country?

 

Its so true, I am an avid news watcher, watch channels of all political ilk, and I think I am being very honest in saying I do not see one of the possible future candidates I would be enthused if American to vote for. I suspect as in the mid terms regardless of standard of those running the x will be placed beside an individual not because of they, but strictly the Party they represent.

[JFK-1]

The White House just called out Trump BY NAME over his request from Putin

 

 

 

[Maple Leaf]

2 hours ago, JFK-1 said:

The White House just called out Trump BY NAME over his request from Putin

 

 

 

 

Look on the bright side of that interview by Trump; he didn't mention windmills.

[JFK-1]

28 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said:

 

Look on the bright side of that interview by Trump; he didn't mention windmills.

 

They probably edited out a windmill rant. The bit about Hunter Biden having porn pics of windmills on his laptop. The Democrats are quietly cheering Trump on right now as he makes himself and the Republicans look ever more crazy and outrageous.

They have to surely know by now, if they were ever unaware,  that Trump doesn't give the proverbial flying about any party, all he cares about is Trump. And even Trump must surely at least occasionally be subject to fleeting moments of reality as the shit pile he's in forces it's way through the orange fog.

That makes Trump all the more likely to become ever more unhinged. Must be grilling Jared right now after Jared spoke the Jan 6th committee for over 6 hours. He didn't spend all that time saying I plead the 5th.

 

This by a significant margin is the biggest political scandal in US history and is still unfolding. We already have a federal judge saying there's clear evidence of not just criminal but also seditious activity from a President who was in office at the time.

 

The wife of a supreme court justice who can only be viewed as either batshit crazy or malevolently seditious. And the SP justice husband right out there in the open attempting to hinder the investigation with absolutely no legal cause/reasoning to do so.

Almost 8 hours of vanished communication logs. Watergate was a trivial event in comparison to this shit.

[JFK-1]

12 hours ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

Is that asking Putin to dish any dirt he has on Hunter/Joe Biden.

 

Does Trump think that if Hunter Biden or even Joe were up to their necks in sleaze, that he'll (Trump) be re-instated as President.

Trump better be careful asking Putin to dish the dirt, as methinks Putin might have loads on Trump.

 

Trump doesn't think, he simply blurts. In a previous post I said this.

 

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Trump has always slithered out by simply lying even when the lie was obvious then moving on. But this is different, this wont simply go away as Trump tries to create another shit storm to distract from it.

 

And that's what this is, simply Trump trying to get people to forget all about the sedition and all the rest of it and run down a rabbit hole with him. But that wont work on this. This will not go away no matter how much he tries to distract.

I think Trump is such a fragile ego he could get even crazier as the heat increases.  

[Maple Leaf]

Until recently I thought that Trump was a slam dunk for the Republican nomination in 2024.  Now, I'm not so sure.

 

Ron DeSantis of Florida has the strong conservative views that will appeal to many on the Republican far right, and he doesn't have the baggage that Trump carries.

 

And DeSantis is smart, a word that no-one puts in the same sentence when talking about Trump. He's a graduate of Yale and the Harvard Law School, and he's also a US navy veteran.  

 

The more Trump slavers on about his admiration for Putin and his hatred of windmills,the more GOP voters will look for a sane alternative.  And DeSantis is quietly waiting. 

[Unknown user]

4 hours ago, Maple Leaf said:

Until recently I thought that Trump was a slam dunk for the Republican nomination in 2024.  Now, I'm not so sure.

 

Ron DeSantis of Florida has the strong conservative views that will appeal to many on the Republican far right, and he doesn't have the baggage that Trump carries.

 

And DeSantis is smart, a word that no-one puts in the same sentence when talking about Trump. He's a graduate of Yale and the Harvard Law School, and he's also a US navy veteran.  

 

The more Trump slavers on about his admiration for Putin and his hatred of windmills,the more GOP voters will look for a sane alternative.  And DeSantis is quietly waiting. 

 

I have a feeling that people are privately looking for a way to save face and jump off the trump train. It could be by him saying a few more mental things as the pressure rises, the cracks start, the narrative changes to he may be right but he's losing it now, and they'll move on to the next psycho.

[Unknown user]

4 hours ago, Maple Leaf said:

Until recently I thought that Trump was a slam dunk for the Republican nomination in 2024.  Now, I'm not so sure.

 

Ron DeSantis of Florida has the strong conservative views that will appeal to many on the Republican far right, and he doesn't have the baggage that Trump carries.

 

And DeSantis is smart, a word that no-one puts in the same sentence when talking about Trump. He's a graduate of Yale and the Harvard Law School, and he's also a US navy veteran.  

 

The more Trump slavers on about his admiration for Putin and his hatred of windmills,the more GOP voters will look for a sane alternative.  And DeSantis is quietly waiting. 

I didn't read through all the way I think we agree

[Sharpie]

5 hours ago, Smithee said:

 

I have a feeling that people are privately looking for a way to save face and jump off the trump train. It could be by him saying a few more mental things as the pressure rises, the cracks start, the narrative changes to he may be right but he's losing it now, and they'll move on to the next psycho.

 He still has Fox News Biden bashing all day, and referring how Trump dealt with the matter being criticised. They belabor Bidens cognitive abilities and I have to say they have a fairly strong point there. If the Presidential race became a repeat Trump v Biden the only winner would be the likes of Russia and China.

[JFK-1]

A sobering vision of the Republicans currently and still to come.

 

 

[Jeffros Furios]

One of the Republican nutters tells a crowd that Bin Laden was killed on Trumps watch .

 

[JFK-1]

33 minutes ago, Jeffros Furios said:

One of the Republican nutters tells a crowd that Bin Laden was killed on Trumps watch .

 

 

I once saw one say, this was during the Obama presidency, "so what did Obama do on 911? tell me that"

And of course 911 was in 2001 while Obama didn't become President till 2008, but hey, what did he do? 

Or how about this classic, "KEEP GOVERNMENT OUT OF MY MEDICARE! YOU DAMN SOCIAILISTS"

Where do you start with that.

Edited April 4, 2022 by JFK-1

[Jeffros Furios]

34 minutes ago, JFK-1 said:

 

I once saw one say, this was during the Obama presidency, "so what did Obama do on 911? tell me that"

And of course 911 was in 2001 while Obama didn't become President till 2008, but hey, what did he do? 

Or how about this classic, "KEEP GOVERNMENT OUT OF MY MEDICARE! YOU DAMN SOCIAILISTS"

Where do you start with that.

I never used to pay much attention to either party in the US but this fake news,  lies , alt right , QAnon

and 2nd amendment pish has shown them up to be a bunch of easily led thick nutjobs .

 

Don't care for the left wing Antifa freaks but they're not mainstream like the Trump cult .

[Sharpie]

I watched Levin on Fox news last night he is making strong allegations against President Biden for using his political influence to cohort with Chinese oligarchs to make millions of dollars. His son is the one that the investigation started about an unskilled person earning millions from entities in Ukraine and China. They are now demanding a hearing such as the one presently investigating Trump. The now famous Hunter Biden laptop the original source of the allegations.

[Maple Leaf]

6 hours ago, JFK-1 said:

A sobering vision of the Republicans currently and still to come.

 

 

 

I watched that show.  It was one of his best "New Rules".  I also liked his comments earlier in the show about Will Smith.  He sure knows how to cut through the bullshit.

 

The comment about the two Republican women shrieking at Biden " ... he's not some Black kid trying to use your pool ..." was classic. 

 

At the end of the show I said to my wife, "America is screwed." The crazies have control of the Supreme Court, they'll soon have control over the House and the Senate, and in 2024 they'll get the White House back.

 

The inept Democrats have only themselves to blame.

[Watt-Zeefuik]

On 01/04/2022 at 23:54, Maple Leaf said:

Until recently I thought that Trump was a slam dunk for the Republican nomination in 2024.  Now, I'm not so sure.

 

Ron DeSantis of Florida has the strong conservative views that will appeal to many on the Republican far right, and he doesn't have the baggage that Trump carries.

 

And DeSantis is smart, a word that no-one puts in the same sentence when talking about Trump. He's a graduate of Yale and the Harvard Law School, and he's also a US navy veteran.  

 

The more Trump slavers on about his admiration for Putin and his hatred of windmills,the more GOP voters will look for a sane alternative.  And DeSantis is quietly waiting. 

 

Trump is extremely clever in his own right. His skill at bullshitting, manipulation, target abuse, and con artistry are second to none, and that's an intellectual achievement in its own right.

 

Yes, he's incredibly ignorant, incurious, uncritical, and poorly read. But I've dismissed his unique (and incredibly dangerous) skills in the past to my great sorrow.

[Jambo-Jimbo]

8 hours ago, Jeffros Furios said:

One of the Republican nutters tells a crowd that Bin Laden was killed on Trumps watch .

 

 

Next week it'll be that Trump was Seal number 4.

[JFK-1]

A good break down of what's being planned for the next elections. Though it takes him till right to the end to make his ultimate point with a lot of comedy thrown in as he builds his case.

 

 

[JFK-1]

How did false claims of election fraud make their way to the center of American politics? FRONTLINE and ProPublica investigate the plot to overturn the 2020 U.S. presidential election.

 

 

[JudyJudyJudy]

Tucker on the ball yet again

 

 

 

[Mikey1874]

 

[JFK-1]

6 hours ago, Mikey1874 said:

 

 

I don't even know what that's supposed to mean, though given it's Trump and his lack of coherent English perhaps that's not surprising. What's he suggesting 82 year old Nancy Pelosi is supposed to do? Throw her stilettos at them?

[JFK-1]

A closer look at the House voting to hold two more of Trump’s associates in contempt amid its investigation into his coup attempt.

 

 

[JFK-1]

Radical Republican Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene might end up getting people killed with her dangerous, conspiratorial rhetoric.

 

 

[JFK-1]

Why Are Republicans Obsessed with Pedophilia? | Real Time with Maher

 

 

 

[Seymour M Hersh]

 

Leader of the free world by all accounts. 

Edited April 11, 2022 by Seymour M Hersh

[Sharpie]

3 hours ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

Leader of the free world by all accounts. 

As a Fox news viewer I have seen many of such things about Biden, I still think the bulk of his problem is the often return of his stutter difficulties. Its amazing he has lasted as long as he has with his difficulty, sometimes he has the problem and he is obviously at the time quoting from notes.

[ri Alban]

2 hours ago, Sharpie said:

As a Fox news viewer I have seen many of such things about Biden, I still think the bulk of his problem is the often return of his stutter difficulties. Its amazing he has lasted as long as he has with his difficulty, sometimes he has the problem and he is obviously at the time quoting from notes.

What he's went thro, all his life, he's someone to look up to.  

 

 

[ri Alban]

6 hours ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

Leader of the free world by all accounts. 

You probably laugh at Trump's disabled impressions. All trump voters and fans of any degree are the folk he mocks and they can, not don't, can't even realise, because they have their own disability. Head injury. I sympathise, greatly.

Edited April 12, 2022 by ri Alban

[Watt-Zeefuik]

Trump had a rally this week an hour or so east of here. The kind that he used to get 15-20k people at.

 

2k people showed up.

 

The media around here still covered it breathlessly like it was some huge event, of course.

 

[Maple Leaf]

8 hours ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

Leader of the free world by all accounts. 

 

Some would say that Biden is not fit to be POTUS, and they might be right.

 

That's two in a row for the Americans.

 

But he is a decent man as POTUS, and that's one in a row for the Americans.

 

[Seymour M Hersh]

1 hour ago, Maple Leaf said:

 

Some would say that Biden is not fit to be POTUS, and they might be right.

 

That's two in a row for the Americans.

 

But he is a decent man as POTUS, and that's one in a row for the Americans.

 

 

Biden is the polar opposite of a decent man. Trump is an uncouth, loud mouthed and dislikable individual but don't kid yourself that Biden is some sort of pillar of the community. 

[Unknown user]

2 hours ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

Biden is the polar opposite of a decent man. Trump is an uncouth, loud mouthed and dislikable individual but don't kid yourself that Biden is some sort of pillar of the community. 

 

Why not, you're kidding yourself he's the polar opposite of a decent man.

 

Weren't you right behind the uncouth, loud mouthed and dislikeable individual by the way?

[JFK-1]

Rachel Maddow revisits reports of Saudi Arabia agreeing to invest a billion dollars in Trump Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin's firm, and adds new reporting from the New York Times that Donald Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner secured a two billion dollar investment from the Saudis despite lacking the qualifications to handle such an investment.