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David Fahrenthold, investigative reporter for the New York Times, talks about the pressure Donald Trump is facing as his loan debts come due, and how he is transitioning to exploiting his political base for money as his real estate ventures collapse.
 

 

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15 hours ago, JFK-1 said:

David Fahrenthold, investigative reporter for the New York Times, talks about the pressure Donald Trump is facing as his loan debts come due, and how he is transitioning to exploiting his political base for money as his real estate ventures collapse.
 

 

I really enjoy these videos, please keep em coming mate!

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Former U.S. Attorney Harry Litman joins Yasmin Vossoughian to discuss Trump’s troubled history of pleading the fifth, and why using this strategy in the New York AG investigation is likely to backfire.

 

“It will cement his legacy as a mob boss president,” Litman says. 

 

 

 

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Trump SH0T DOWN after can't find 'accounting' firm to fix 'fake'

 

Plus Trump introduces a social media app called, wait for it, "Truth Social" You seriously couldn't make this shit up.
 

 

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From tossed lawsuits to new subpoenas from the New York Attorney General, a whirlwind of legal woes is hitting Trumpworld hard. Congresswoman and former impeachment manager Stacey Plaskett says “Donald Trump is being exposed. Whether it’s his dereliction of duty, whether it is infractions of the Emoluments Clause, using his office for his own financial...games, it’s all coming out now.” A DOJ alum herself, Plaskett says it’s time for Justice to take this up.

 

'The Criminal Conspiracy That Is Donald Trump Is Being Exposed' Says Rep. Plaskett

 

 

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On 19/02/2022 at 05:52, A Boy Named Crow said:

Yup, everybody should brace themselves for this to end up being a big nothing. That's not to say Trump isn't guilty, or that he shouldnt be irreparably damaged by this... just that he won't be. It's the way of the world, if you're rich enough snd/or have strong enough support,  problems go away!

 

I'm not sure. The nature of the investigation isn't really heading towards court settlements and they appear to be looking for a trial with a jury/judge led outcome. 

 

 

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Barbara McQuade joins Lawrence O’Donnell to discuss the model prosecution memo she wrote detailing the “very strong evidence” in public information for bringing federal criminal charges against Donald Trump for pressuring Mike Pence to overturn the 2020 election.

 

“I just can’t imagine a world in which the Justice Department is not at least conducting an investigation that could lead to a memo like this.”
 

 

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8 minutes ago, Masonic said:

going to be good when hes back in charge nice to see the bookies have him as a clear favourite since biden is no good for leading the free world

Is this the same lunatic that so far this week has said the US should have done what Putin has done at the border with Mexico? And got confused in another interview and thought American amphibious troops were responsible for an operation in Ukraine?

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"You shouldn't be saying that, because you and everybody else shouldn't know about it," Trump continued. "They should do that secretly, not be doing that through the great Laura Ingraham."

"No, those are the Russians," Ingraham replied.

 

"Oh, I thought you said that we were sending people in," Trump said.

😂😂😂

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58 minutes ago, Masonic said:

going to be good when hes back in charge nice to see the bookies have him as a clear favourite since biden is no good for leading the free world

:rofl:

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Bill Maher says Trumps base is crashing, that millions of the previously fanatical have become not so enamoured of Trump anymore, and are sticking their heads back out of the rabbit hole he led them down. And he has advice for those of us who knew Trump was a disaster from day one.
 

 

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16 hours ago, westbow said:

"You shouldn't be saying that, because you and everybody else shouldn't know about it," Trump continued. "They should do that secretly, not be doing that through the great Laura Ingraham."

"No, those are the Russians," Ingraham replied.

 

"Oh, I thought you said that we were sending people in," Trump said.

😂😂😂

 

I saw it, and was a shade surprised she let him ramble on so long. Must have been caught in a moment of WTF, how do I tell this stupid B he's a stupid B. Without totally humiliating this guy who knows more about everything than anybody knows about anything. And who is never wrong about anything.

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17 hours ago, Masonic said:

going to be good when hes back in charge nice to see the bookies have him as a clear favourite since biden is no good for leading the free world

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Captain Slog

May i offer a heartfelt thanks to all the regular posters on this thread.

 

Several years ago I met my partner online.  She's American.  One of things that drew us together was my understanding of American politics.  An understanding almost entirely based on the comments from you guys and  me following them up.  I can't thank you enough.

 

I know there were trolls at times, usually when people were asleep but you kept this such a disciplined thread compared to the current Ukraine one.  I came here to escape the trolling on that.

 

Thank you for educating me in Merkin politics and allowing me to seduce my  future wife.  She was over for six months, hopefully back soon, don't mention passports or visas because its a nightmare, but i do hope we will be married soon - and all thanks to you guys giving me the ammunition to talk to her like i understood.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Captain Slog said:

May i offer a heartfelt thanks to all the regular posters on this thread.

 

Several years ago I met my partner online.  She's American.  One of things that drew us together was my understanding of American politics.  An understanding almost entirely based on the comments from you guys and  me following them up.  I can't thank you enough.

 

I know there were trolls at times, usually when people were asleep but you kept this such a disciplined thread compared to the current Ukraine one.  I came here to escape the trolling on that.

 

Thank you for educating me in Merkin politics and allowing me to seduce my  future wife.  She was over for six months, hopefully back soon, don't mention passports or visas because its a nightmare, but i do hope we will be married soon - and all thanks to you guys giving me the ammunition to talk to her like i understood.

 

 

:laugh2: give her one from us!

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Banned from the Ukraine thread because I said the absolute truth. This is like Russia in here. Cannot tolerate free speech. Pathetic. 

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2 minutes ago, JackLadd said:

Banned from the Ukraine thread because I said the absolute truth. This is like Russia in here. Cannot tolerate free speech. Pathetic. 

But you’re not telling the truth. You’re telling your truth. It’s a subtle difference that applies to both sides of issues. 

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9 minutes ago, JackLadd said:

Banned from the Ukraine thread because I said the absolute truth. This is like Russia in here. Cannot tolerate free speech. Pathetic. 

You think you have rights? This is a private website mate, if you don't like how it's run, you have the right to **** off.

 

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I have no criticism of those with views that are contrary to other users who have their own views, what and again its  probably an age thing is that in the past when there was talk that a situation could escalate into full scale war we all seemed to unite as one Country, ready to stand for it. I guess the situation today is again the devil Internet, where we are all allowed to state our opinions many of which are so opposed that compromise is impossible. If there is a war would we forget all the things we spout on the internet and the likes of JKB and unite, or would we remain fragmented.

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1 hour ago, Sharpie said:

I have no criticism of those with views that are contrary to other users who have their own views, what and again its  probably an age thing is that in the past when there was talk that a situation could escalate into full scale war we all seemed to unite as one Country, ready to stand for it. I guess the situation today is again the devil Internet, where we are all allowed to state our opinions many of which are so opposed that compromise is impossible. If there is a war would we forget all the things we spout on the internet and the likes of JKB and unite, or would we remain fragmented.

I think the internet has changed the nature of the beast now Mr Bob.  When I was young before the internet, you could have reasoned debate - sometimes.  Now, many of the regular posters here will live in such insular platforms that only echo and amplify their views they cannot  participate in a debate anymore, and resort to trolling.

 

For what its worth, even though I'm a reader and not a poster, members here have educated my views on things such as the American Polis, (my dad was polis so i always considered them sacrosanct), American politics - and outwards to such absurd things as i can now see the cyclist point of view even if i don't agree with it, and pizza ovens and people saying how big a graphic card they have - still think they are grandstanding their wealth, but i understand maybe i have a different view because i am older, and they are important things now.

 

May i say, that the few jambos i did cross swords with at various times were all absolute

gentlemen to me and respected my views, its very upsetting to see the personal things thrown about on other threads.

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3 hours ago, Smithee said:

You think you have rights? This is a private website mate, if you don't like how it's run, you have the right to **** off.

 

Just made my night Smithee, thank you.  Ill tell her JKB instructs....

 

oh god, i responded to the wrong Smithee thing

 

I meant the one where you said i had to give her one from us

 

 

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1 hour ago, Captain Slog said:

Just made my night Smithee, thank you.  Ill tell her JKB instructs....

 

oh god, i responded to the wrong Smithee thing

 

I meant the one where you said i had to give her one from us

 

 

 What State does your important lady come from.  I must say I enjoyed reading your message to me, it was light but meaningful and friendly, was your father Edinburgh Police.

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4 hours ago, JackLadd said:

Banned from the Ukraine thread because I said the absolute truth. This is like Russia in here. Cannot tolerate free speech. Pathetic. 

What did you say?

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3 hours ago, Sharpie said:

I have no criticism of those with views that are contrary to other users who have their own views, what and again its  probably an age thing is that in the past when there was talk that a situation could escalate into full scale war we all seemed to unite as one Country, ready to stand for it. I guess the situation today is again the devil Internet, where we are all allowed to state our opinions many of which are so opposed that compromise is impossible. If there is a war would we forget all the things we spout on the internet and the likes of JKB and unite, or would we remain fragmented.

On the Ukraine thread, Sharpie. If folk are gonnae bring The FM of Scotland into it or slag off Scotland or Scots, Well...I'm not gonnae sit there and let them have a free thread. It's funny how folk seem to miss the posts that start the trolling and focus on the ones who bring a retaliation with a sting.

 

 

Anyway, how did we Joe get on, some things sound quite good, tho  Republicans greetin again, going on about Trump. These people are mentally I'll. You can even see it just looking at them.

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8 hours ago, JackLadd said:

Banned from the Ukraine thread because I said the absolute truth. This is like Russia in here. Cannot tolerate free speech. Pathetic. 

:glorious:

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5 hours ago, Captain Slog said:

Just made my night Smithee, thank you.  Ill tell her JKB instructs....

 

oh god, i responded to the wrong Smithee thing

 

I meant the one where you said i had to give her one from us

 

:laugh2: better make it 2, to be on the safe side!

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13 hours ago, Sharpie said:

 What State does your important lady come from.  I must say I enjoyed reading your message to me, it was light but meaningful and friendly, was your father Edinburgh Police.

She is from Kansas, right in the centre of the country.  Very disillusioned with American politics, which is why the more socialist compared to America  leaning on this thread may have attracted her.  And our NHS.  And social security.  And free education.  As a teacher, she decided to emigrate here when the debate about teacher having to be armed in American schools came to the fore.

 

My father was polis in North Wales I believe, was before I was born Bob.  A funny story is that when he did his national service in the RAF before, they offered him either a three year stint with a white cap and two stripes - or glasshouse and discharge.  Was why he became police after being a snowdrop.  I think in those days, the military had a policy to have police that weren't blind to any mischief, not bad men but knew where the boundaries were, - set a thief to catch a thief sort of thing.

 

My uncle Bill McKeach i think it was, was in the Edinburgh polis though.  Consummate Alcoholic, never sober, but amazingly his job was to drive the head polis officer from Fettes about.

 

When i say uncle, he didn't marry my aunt, in those days he would be referred to as her fancy man.  Retired late seventies or eightis if i recall.

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2 minutes ago, Captain Slog said:

She is from Kansas, right in the centre of the country.  Very disillusioned with American politics, which is why the more socialist compared to America  leaning on this thread may have attracted her.  And our NHS.  And social security.  And free education.  As a teacher, she decided to emigrate here when the debate about teacher having to be armed in American schools came to the fore.

 

My father was polis in North Wales I believe, was before I was born Bob.  A funny story is that when he did his national service in the RAF before, they offered him either a three year stint with a white cap and two stripes - or glasshouse and discharge.  Was why he became police after being a snowdrop.  I think in those days, the military had a policy to have police that weren't blind to any mischief, not bad men but knew where the boundaries were, - set a thief to catch a thief sort of thing.

 

My uncle Bill McKeach i think it was, was in the Edinburgh polis though.  Consummate Alcoholic, never sober, but amazingly his job was to drive the head polis officer from Fettes about.

 

When i say uncle, he didn't marry my aunt, in those days he would be referred to as her fancy man.  Retired late seventies or eightis if i recall.

 

I could read you all day. Yes the military in those days had their own way of getting what they wanted. I don't recognise the name of your uncle but I was gone before Fettes got going. Common law arrangements for some reason were fairly common in police circles, I guess they found that getting rid of a wife was more costly than a common law relationship. Having a taste for the vino was not unusual for police in those days, if you were open to the offers the sources were plentiful. Police friendly pubs, pundy time at the breweries, many sources.  To keep this in some line of the thread, in my day we were Donald Trumpish, we felt we had the right of power, gifts and favors were a stupid rule so should be ignored, and likeTrump we were always correct.

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On 01/03/2022 at 17:19, JackLadd said:

Banned from the Ukraine thread because I said the absolute truth. This is like Russia in here. Cannot tolerate free speech. Pathetic. 

 

Well in making comparisons to Russia I think it has to be acknowledged that speaking the 'absolute truth' in Russia would likely incur far more severe penalties than banned from a thread.

If a news reader on national live TV in Russia lost their mind and started telling the 'absolute truth' about what's happening in Ukraine i'm guessing gulag at best, a dose of novichok at worst.

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1 hour ago, JFK-1 said:

 

Well in making comparisons to Russia I think it has to be acknowledged that speaking the 'absolute truth' in Russia would likely incur far more severe penalties than banned from a thread.

If a news reader on national live TV in Russia lost their mind and started telling the 'absolute truth' about what's happening in Ukraine i'm guessing gulag at best, a dose of novichok at worst.

Gulags and novichok, that'd put a stop to the troll infestation on here!

 

 

 

 

(The legal ramifications for the mods and admins, of sending trolls/shite posters to labour camps...or poisoning them,  is completely their problem)

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I put this in here rather than the Ukraine thread because it has a lot of conversation on the current Republican/Trump dilemma around Putin and Russia.

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President Biden must rally not only a divided America, but also the world, against Putin's aggression -- this according to Susan Glasser, a writer for The New Yorker and former Moscow bureau chief for The Washington Post. She joins Michel Martin to discuss how the U.S. President should respond to Putin's war. 
 

 

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The thought of Trump being president at this moment in time is not a pleasant one.

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There is no doubt in my mind that, if Trump was still President, the USA would be taking no action against Russia over their invasion of Ukraine.

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5 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said:

There is no doubt in my mind that, if Trump was still President, the USA would be taking no action against Russia over their invasion of Ukraine.

 

The irony is I don't think this would be happening if he were still President and he recently claimed that himself. I agree, but not for the reasons he claimed. I can't remember if it's gone over in the video I posted above, I have watched so many recently.

The thinking is that if Trump were still President, as we all know Putin wanted, Putin would simply have waited for Trump to take the US out of NATO.

As Trump repeatedly and insistently wanted to do despite being repeatedly and insistently told by advisers that's insane.

Given it's Trump I don't know if the idiot was capable of computing the consequences of such an action. Or if he understood the gravity of it but had ulterior motives given his well documented admiration of Putin. Hell even now he can't stop it.

But he wouldn't have stopped trying to take the US out of NATO and if given a second term the crazy might have assembled enough of a crazy gang to force it through.

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9 hours ago, JFK-1 said:

 

The irony is I don't think this would be happening if he were still President and he recently claimed that himself. I agree, but not for the reasons he claimed. I can't remember if it's gone over in the video I posted above, I have watched so many recently.

The thinking is that if Trump were still President, as we all know Putin wanted, Putin would simply have waited for Trump to take the US out of NATO.

As Trump repeatedly and insistently wanted to do despite being repeatedly and insistently told by advisers that's insane.

Given it's Trump I don't know if the idiot was capable of computing the consequences of such an action. Or if he understood the gravity of it but had ulterior motives given his well documented admiration of Putin. Hell even now he can't stop it.

But he wouldn't have stopped trying to take the US out of NATO and if given a second term the crazy might have assembled enough of a crazy gang to force it through.

 

If Trump ever did that, and I agree it will be on the table if he wins re-election, Putin will name him "Hero of the Russian Federation", Russia's highest award.

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9 hours ago, Maple Leaf said:

 

If Trump ever did that, and I agree it will be on the table if he wins re-election, Putin will name him "Hero of the Russian Federation", Russia's highest award.

 

The further question is, why would Trump do that? Why would any rational person far less a US president do that? Incidentally I don't think Trump has any chance of another term. Probably wont even run but will will continue collecting money from the suckers.

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15 hours ago, JFK-1 said:

 

The further question is, why would Trump do that? Why would any rational person far less a US president do that? Incidentally I don't think Trump has any chance of another term. Probably wont even run but will will continue collecting money from the suckers.

 

I have watched Trump live on TV as President declare his love, and I repeat love for a North Korean dictator. I have also watched he live on TV tell how he contacts the leader of China regularly and has nice talks. I watched him in Finland when with Putin when he had been fairly recently elected and the Russian thing was still top news, my opinion based on some ability to do such was watching his body language and facial expression where he was obviously hoping for Putins support and was being careful not to irk him. If the Republican party stay as is they will push Trump in the next election. I watch Fox news diligently,  a believer in the old saying watch your friends close but your enemies closer, the objective of the two main hosts is to mention Trumps name as often as possible and decry Biden similarly.

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7 hours ago, Sharpie said:

 

I have watched Trump live on TV as President declare his love, and I repeat love for a North Korean dictator. I have also watched he live on TV tell how he contacts the leader of China regularly and has nice talks. I watched him in Finland when with Putin when he had been fairly recently elected and the Russian thing was still top news, my opinion based on some ability to do such was watching his body language and facial expression where he was obviously hoping for Putins support and was being careful not to irk him. If the Republican party stay as is they will push Trump in the next election. I watch Fox news diligently,  a believer in the old saying watch your friends close but your enemies closer, the objective of the two main hosts is to mention Trumps name as often as possible and decry Biden similarly.

 

I had an exchange with a friend recently talking about Trump who I have come to believe is somehow compromised by Putin. This is what I wrote regarding that.


We have more to be concerned about than Trump right now but that woman in the video said some absolutely shocking things about him. I knew he had talked about taking the US out of NATO, but it was enlightening to hear her describe how utterly intent he was in pushing this.

Pushing this catastrophic geo-political altering action despite advisors telling him this was world changing and dangerous. Now this being Trump I first have to consider is he so stupid he's not capable of computing the potentially devastating consequences of this for the entire world.

Or does he have a modicum of intellect just enough to grasp the gravity of it but other considerations take precedence. If he were still President the irony is Putin probably wouldn't be in Ukraine. Because I now believe Putin was always going to take Ukraine but was waiting for Trump to take the US out of NATO.

Trump attempted to get the US out of NATO in 2018, couldn't get enough crazies on board at the time, then became embroiled in electioneering, bungling covid, scamming, organising an insurrection, just standard everyday Trump shit.

But if he had gained another term i'm now convinced he would have gathered enough of a crazy bunch to force this total insanity through and a lot more than Ukraine would have been open to Putin. It truly would have been catastrophic, the US is NATO.

Now I hate saying stuff like this because it almost sounds like conspiracy theory and I hate that shit. But this is simply connecting dots and not even just like random dots. Almost like numbered dots right from his first campaign.

1. Russian connection, everybody knows Putin wants him to win and is at a bare minimum posting massive amounts of pro Trump anti Hillary propaganda into social media.

2. Trump even bizarrely publicly asks Russia to help him out with some dirt on Hillary.

(On July 27, 2016, Trump called on Russia to find presidential Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton’s missing emails. “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Trump proclaimed. He added, “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”

3. When all of the US own major intelligence agencies and the rest of the worlds, equivalents, MI6, MOSSAD and basically all of the West stated that Russia had meddled in the election.

Trump bizarrely rejected all of that and said in a televised press conference with Putin there in attendance that Putin had denied any involvement. And Trump believed him, or so he said. What do all these spies know.

4. Election meddling aside Trump displayed a not only never critical stance towards Putin and Russia throughout his Presidency, but as that woman described in the video an almost fawning stance towards an authoritarian state who are a major military and political opponent of his country. And is continuing it even now as Putin crushes Ukraine. A Ukraine he tried to blackmail into making up dirt on Biden.

I could go on with numbered points but I think you get the picture of joining dots now and they're all known facts in the news. This isn't fantasy, all of those things together create an obvious pattern/tendency unknown in any previous Western leader far less US president.

Trump is the ultimate narcissist and con artist, everything he ever does or did even while President had his personal desires as the first priority.

One potential but unknown factor is that you're no doubt aware there have been rumours that Putin has something on Trump. I would give that credibility since Trump has been in Russia. And I don't doubt for a moment every room he was in including the bog was bugged all to hell with video and audio.

It's what the old Soviet KGB did with prominent Westerners, and Putin is old Soviet KGB. So we can presume nothing except the technology has changed in that respect and we know for a fact Trump has a penchant for women including hookers.

And from there I would presume it likely they too knew of Trumps penchant for women and hookers and set up a supply then recorded proceedings. Which is exactly what one rumour states. And given all of the above I tend to believe it. Classic KGB honey trap.

From there the usual pattern is to initially not let the subject know you have this, but introduce that to them if you see an opportune moment when it could be in your favour. Candidate for the US presidency is an ideal moment.

So let's say all of this were a plausible scenario, what in the world would then encourage Trump to not only sell out his nation but potentially throw the entire world into instability and chaos.

Would Trump do all of that to humanity simply because Putin might put his naked fat arse with a hooker on the internet? Allegedly pissing on him. Is he so fragile, narcissistic and egotistic he would do all that to keep that video off the net?

And there will be more than that. They will know more about Trumps financial dealing than Trump does, we know for a fact Trump has always been involved in shady financial activity, he's being investigated right now.

A second motive along with the hookers video. Would Trump be so malevolent and ****ed up in the head as to help facilitate Putin for a promise to make him a real oligarch, not the one he likes to imagine himself to be but a real one, multi billionaire with deals Putin will set up for him.

Would someone like Trump really sell out his own nation which he had been leader of no less for money? If it all has any truth I hope we find out. He's a piece of shit who would be a Putin himself if he could be. If i'm right to any degree I want to see him exposed as the greatest traitor in American history.

The very name a curse word.

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13 minutes ago, JFK-1 said:

 

I had an exchange with a friend recently talking about Trump who I have come to believe is somehow compromised by Putin. This is what I wrote regarding that.


We have more to be concerned about than Trump right now but that woman in the video said some absolutely shocking things about him. I knew he had talked about taking the US out of NATO, but it was enlightening to hear her describe how utterly intent he was in pushing this.

Pushing this catastrophic geo-political altering action despite advisors telling him this was world changing and dangerous. Now this being Trump I first have to consider is he so stupid he's not capable of computing the potentially devastating consequences of this for the entire world.

Or does he have a modicum of intellect just enough to grasp the gravity of it but other considerations take precedence. If he were still President the irony is Putin probably wouldn't be in Ukraine. Because I now believe Putin was always going to take Ukraine but was waiting for Trump to take the US out of NATO.

Trump attempted to get the US out of NATO in 2018, couldn't get enough crazies on board at the time, then became embroiled in electioneering, bungling covid, scamming, organising an insurrection, just standard everyday Trump shit.

But if he had gained another term i'm now convinced he would have gathered enough of a crazy bunch to force this total insanity through and a lot more than Ukraine would have been open to Putin. It truly would have been catastrophic, the US is NATO.

Now I hate saying stuff like this because it almost sounds like conspiracy theory and I hate that shit. But this is simply connecting dots and not even just like random dots. Almost like numbered dots right from his first campaign.

1. Russian connection, everybody knows Putin wants him to win and is at a bare minimum posting massive amounts of pro Trump anti Hillary propaganda into social media.

2. Trump even bizarrely publicly asks Russia to help him out with some dirt on Hillary.

(On July 27, 2016, Trump called on Russia to find presidential Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton’s missing emails. “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Trump proclaimed. He added, “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”

3. When all of the US own major intelligence agencies and the rest of the worlds, equivalents, MI6, MOSSAD and basically all of the West stated that Russia had meddled in the election.

Trump bizarrely rejected all of that and said in a televised press conference with Putin there in attendance that Putin had denied any involvement. And Trump believed him, or so he said. What do all these spies know.

4. Election meddling aside Trump displayed a not only never critical stance towards Putin and Russia throughout his Presidency, but as that woman described in the video an almost fawning stance towards an authoritarian state who are a major military and political opponent of his country. And is continuing it even now as Putin crushes Ukraine. A Ukraine he tried to blackmail into making up dirt on Biden.

I could go on with numbered points but I think you get the picture of joining dots now and they're all known facts in the news. This isn't fantasy, all of those things together create an obvious pattern/tendency unknown in any previous Western leader far less US president.

Trump is the ultimate narcissist and con artist, everything he ever does or did even while President had his personal desires as the first priority.

One potential but unknown factor is that you're no doubt aware there have been rumours that Putin has something on Trump. I would give that credibility since Trump has been in Russia. And I don't doubt for a moment every room he was in including the bog was bugged all to hell with video and audio.

It's what the old Soviet KGB did with prominent Westerners, and Putin is old Soviet KGB. So we can presume nothing except the technology has changed in that respect and we know for a fact Trump has a penchant for women including hookers.

And from there I would presume it likely they too knew of Trumps penchant for women and hookers and set up a supply then recorded proceedings. Which is exactly what one rumour states. And given all of the above I tend to believe it. Classic KGB honey trap.

From there the usual pattern is to initially not let the subject know you have this, but introduce that to them if you see an opportune moment when it could be in your favour. Candidate for the US presidency is an ideal moment.

So let's say all of this were a plausible scenario, what in the world would then encourage Trump to not only sell out his nation but potentially throw the entire world into instability and chaos.

Would Trump do all of that to humanity simply because Putin might put his naked fat arse with a hooker on the internet? Allegedly pissing on him. Is he so fragile, narcissistic and egotistic he would do all that to keep that video off the net?

And there will be more than that. They will know more about Trumps financial dealing than Trump does, we know for a fact Trump has always been involved in shady financial activity, he's being investigated right now.

A second motive along with the hookers video. Would Trump be so malevolent and ****ed up in the head as to help facilitate Putin for a promise to make him a real oligarch, not the one he likes to imagine himself to be but a real one, multi billionaire with deals Putin will set up for him.

Would someone like Trump really sell out his own nation which he had been leader of no less for money? If it all has any truth I hope we find out. He's a piece of shit who would be a Putin himself if he could be. If i'm right to any degree I want to see him exposed as the greatest traitor in American history.

The very name a curse word.

Your mate could be on to something. That would seem far fetched, but when it comes to Trump it seems highly plausible, especially with some of this shit he's been saying since the Russian invasion.

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I had an exchange with a friend recently talking about Trump who I have come to believe is somehow compromised by Putin. This is what I wrote regarding that.


We have more to be concerned about than Trump right now but that woman in the video said some absolutely shocking things about him. I knew he had talked about taking the US out of NATO, but it was enlightening to hear her describe how utterly intent he was in pushing this.

Pushing this catastrophic geo-political altering action despite advisors telling him this was world changing and dangerous. Now this being Trump I first have to consider is he so stupid he's not capable of computing the potentially devastating consequences of this for the entire world.

Or does he have a modicum of intellect just enough to grasp the gravity of it but other considerations take precedence. If he were still President the irony is Putin probably wouldn't be in Ukraine. Because I now believe Putin was always going to take Ukraine but was waiting for Trump to take the US out of NATO.

Trump attempted to get the US out of NATO in 2018, couldn't get enough crazies on board at the time, then became embroiled in electioneering, bungling covid, scamming, organising an insurrection, just standard everyday Trump shit.

But if he had gained another term i'm now convinced he would have gathered enough of a crazy bunch to force this total insanity through and a lot more than Ukraine would have been open to Putin. It truly would have been catastrophic, the US is NATO.

Now I hate saying stuff like this because it almost sounds like conspiracy theory and I hate that shit. But this is simply connecting dots and not even just like random dots. Almost like numbered dots right from his first campaign.

1. Russian connection, everybody knows Putin wants him to win and is at a bare minimum posting massive amounts of pro Trump anti Hillary propaganda into social media.

2. Trump even bizarrely publicly asks Russia to help him out with some dirt on Hillary.

(On July 27, 2016, Trump called on Russia to find presidential Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton’s missing emails. “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Trump proclaimed. He added, “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”

3. When all of the US own major intelligence agencies and the rest of the worlds, equivalents, MI6, MOSSAD and basically all of the West stated that Russia had meddled in the election.

Trump bizarrely rejected all of that and said in a televised press conference with Putin there in attendance that Putin had denied any involvement. And Trump believed him, or so he said. What do all these spies know.

4. Election meddling aside Trump displayed a not only never critical stance towards Putin and Russia throughout his Presidency, but as that woman described in the video an almost fawning stance towards an authoritarian state who are a major military and political opponent of his country. And is continuing it even now as Putin crushes Ukraine. A Ukraine he tried to blackmail into making up dirt on Biden.

I could go on with numbered points but I think you get the picture of joining dots now and they're all known facts in the news. This isn't fantasy, all of those things together create an obvious pattern/tendency unknown in any previous Western leader far less US president.

Trump is the ultimate narcissist and con artist, everything he ever does or did even while President had his personal desires as the first priority.

One potential but unknown factor is that you're no doubt aware there have been rumours that Putin has something on Trump. I would give that credibility since Trump has been in Russia. And I don't doubt for a moment every room he was in including the bog was bugged all to hell with video and audio.

It's what the old Soviet KGB did with prominent Westerners, and Putin is old Soviet KGB. So we can presume nothing except the technology has changed in that respect and we know for a fact Trump has a penchant for women including hookers.

And from there I would presume it likely they too knew of Trumps penchant for women and hookers and set up a supply then recorded proceedings. Which is exactly what one rumour states. And given all of the above I tend to believe it. Classic KGB honey trap.

From there the usual pattern is to initially not let the subject know you have this, but introduce that to them if you see an opportune moment when it could be in your favour. Candidate for the US presidency is an ideal moment.

So let's say all of this were a plausible scenario, what in the world would then encourage Trump to not only sell out his nation but potentially throw the entire world into instability and chaos.

Would Trump do all of that to humanity simply because Putin might put his naked fat arse with a hooker on the internet? Allegedly pissing on him. Is he so fragile, narcissistic and egotistic he would do all that to keep that video off the net?

And there will be more than that. They will know more about Trumps financial dealing than Trump does, we know for a fact Trump has always been involved in shady financial activity, he's being investigated right now.

A second motive along with the hookers video. Would Trump be so malevolent and ****ed up in the head as to help facilitate Putin for a promise to make him a real oligarch, not the one he likes to imagine himself to be but a real one, multi billionaire with deals Putin will set up for him.

Would someone like Trump really sell out his own nation which he had been leader of no less for money? If it all has any truth I hope we find out. He's a piece of shit who would be a Putin himself if he could be. If i'm right to any degree I want to see him exposed as the greatest traitor in American history.

The very name a curse word.

 

I would love to act critic and say "but" somewhere but I cannot find a suitable spot, excellent presentation. Trump reminds me in a very obscure way of some of the criminals I dealt with. They were as intelligent as a bag of nails but somehow they discovered a forte in  a certain criminal act and lived fairly well of their proceeds. Stretches of imprisonment done nothing to rehabilitate them in fact their ability only encouraged others of a similar bent to exchange nefarious ideas to supplement boths advancement. Trump to me believes the sole sign of success is financial, whether by honest means, graft, fraud complicity in evil he will participate. He has the ideal proponent in Putin and other ruthless dictators.

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1 hour ago, Sharpie said:

 

I would love to act critic and say "but" somewhere but I cannot find a suitable spot, excellent presentation. Trump reminds me in a very obscure way of some of the criminals I dealt with. They were as intelligent as a bag of nails but somehow they discovered a forte in  a certain criminal act and lived fairly well of their proceeds. Stretches of imprisonment done nothing to rehabilitate them in fact their ability only encouraged others of a similar bent to exchange nefarious ideas to supplement boths advancement. Trump to me believes the sole sign of success is financial, whether by honest means, graft, fraud complicity in evil he will participate. He has the ideal proponent in Putin and other ruthless dictators.

 

Well if an old cop thinks it's almost good enough to bring a case that's good enough for me.

You watch Fox to keep an eye on them, I get that somebody has to. But I can't watch them, the crazy grates on my nerves. They grate on my nerves to the extent that if the only escape was dig out your own eyeballs with 6 inch nails then ram the nails in your ears I would think about it.

So given that level of aversion I don't know how they would respond to a similar scenario with nothing but a single word change. What if the post I made above I were describing exactly the same facts. But Trump were switched to Obama?

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32 minutes ago, JFK-1 said:

 

Well if an old cop thinks it's almost good enough to bring a case that's good enough for me.

You watch Fox to keep an eye on them, I get that somebody has to. But I can't watch them, the crazy grates on my nerves. They grate on my nerves to the extent that if the only escape was dig out your own eyeballs with 6 inch nails then ram the nails in your ears I would think about it.

So given that level of aversion I don't know how they would respond to a similar scenario with nothing but a single word change. What if the post I made above I were describing exactly the same facts. But Trump were switched to Obama?

Their condemnations of Obama would be mind staggering and continuous as their praise of Trump is pesently, I have to confess that my total criticisms of Trump are not political alone, nor his lifestyle, or his adulteries its just the whole man strikes me totally wrong. He is everything for which I have contempt, a phoney, a liar a cheat. I guess I watch Fox because they are total supporters of everything I am against. I feel they for example will be the catalyst for any future victory Trump could have, so although there is nothing I can do about it I can at least be prepared for the devastation for which  they will have had so much responsibility . I am bald, and grey with wrinkles, but I have never considered a comb over, I have never considered dying my hair blonde, when I wanted a suntan the wife and I went to Hawaii, Trump really is the epitomy of everything I from mild dislike to absolutely despise .

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