7628mm Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 25 minutes ago, OmiyaHearts said: I'm trying to get excited about the two potential signings of Whelan and Meshino. I can't shake the feeling we don't have the right people to get the best out of them though. I look forward to being proven wrong... I too want to be proved wrong. I do fear however your 1st paragraph is what is likely to happen. We have in the recent past brought in some "good" players who have started well and for some reason their form has fallen away and we end up with the same turgid, boring, slow style with no visible signs of improvement. If we manage to get this Japanese boy in and he is as good as his youtube makes him look I suggest that after 15-20 games he will be dragged down to the level we have seen for 2-3 seasons now. Again I hope to be proved wrong but the last 2-3 seasons suggest otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts1975 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, To Be Frank said: @Hearts1975 😁 before you get too excited ... I got my dates completely wrong, hands up. That said, you still cannot make comparisons between what Opportunity Levein has had under AB Vs what PS had under Romanov as per my initial post to you, the point I was making wasn’t to disagree that had levein beat Celtic last year in the final that it wouldn’t have made the season better, but to suggest giving a direct comparison with last season and 2011/12 was ludicrous to say the least you seemed to infer that everyone, excluding me, would agree on this even although I didn’t pass comment on what you said don’t mind admitting I got my dates Wrong but I don’t really think it makes a difference to the point I was making in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 31 minutes ago, Hearts1975 said: Your absolutely right. I stand corrected. Well picked up. I still stand by the point that I made in the sense that even although in 2011-2012 (correction) still major turmoil with players not being signed, jefferies getting the boot in close season and Sergio pretty much oversaw a fire sale in terms of players leaving and not being paid. I think some people don’t quite realise the circumstances that it would be like for any manager to operate back then, not withstanding the fact that Romanov was dictating who was coming in/leaving jefferies made a few signings before Romanov got the bullet but am I not right in saying that the only player that Sergio signed at the start of the season was Calumn tapping from spurs, and that was on loan I still stick to my point that it’s unfair making comparisons between how we played in 2011/12 to last season considering CL has had far more resources, and free movement within the transfer market The conditions that Sergio managed under are night and day compared to Levein. Im not sure about Tapping but he had to loan Sutton our to get Craig Beattie in the door. Jefferies had the first two league games before he was emptied, a draw at Ibrox where Naismith scored their equaliser and a defeat at Dundee Utd where Daly scored the winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 31 minutes ago, Hearts1975 said: 😁 before you get too excited ... I got my dates completely wrong, hands up. That said, you still cannot make comparisons between what Opportunity Levein has had under AB Vs what PS had under Romanov as per my initial post to you, the point I was making wasn’t to disagree that had levein beat Celtic last year in the final that it wouldn’t have made the season better, but to suggest giving a direct comparison with last season and 2011/12 was ludicrous to say the least you seemed to infer that everyone, excluding me, would agree on this even although I didn’t pass comment on what you said don’t mind admitting I got my dates Wrong but I don’t really think it makes a difference to the point I was making in the first place Good post 👍🏽 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 36 minutes ago, Hearts1975 said: 😁 before you get too excited ... I got my dates completely wrong, hands up. That said, you still cannot make comparisons between what Opportunity Levein has had under AB Vs what PS had under Romanov as per my initial post to you, the point I was making wasn’t to disagree that had levein beat Celtic last year in the final that it wouldn’t have made the season better, but to suggest giving a direct comparison with last season and 2011/12 was ludicrous to say the least you seemed to infer that everyone, excluding me, would agree on this even although I didn’t pass comment on what you said don’t mind admitting I got my dates Wrong but I don’t really think it makes a difference to the point I was making in the first place The simple point was about the league performance and how a cup win masks a poor league finish in a particular season. Bugger all to do with any of the nonsense you jumped in both feet with. 🤷🏻♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts1975 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: The conditions that Sergio managed under are night and day compared to Levein. Im not sure about Tapping but he had to loan Sutton our to get Craig Beattie in the door. Jefferies had the first two league games before he was emptied, a draw at Ibrox where Naismith scored their equaliser and a defeat at Dundee Utd where Daly scored the winner. I’m having a mair with my dates and timelines here! 😬 I’ll stand corrected on Jefferies as well .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Hearts1975 said: I’m having a mair with my dates and timelines here! 😬 I’ll stand corrected on Jefferies as well .. No problem mate, Google is great for the memory 😜 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts1975 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, To Be Frank said: The simple point was about the league performance and how a cup win masks a poor league finish in a particular season. Bugger all to do with any of the nonsense you jumped in both feet with. 🤷🏻♂️ That’s fine then Frank, but I wouldn’t have jumped in with “both feet” if you didn’t feel the need to measure/compare the 2 seasons directly, with each other, in the first place 🤷♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Hearts1975 said: That’s fine then Frank, but I wouldn’t have jumped in with “both feet” if you didn’t feel the need to measure/compare the 2 seasons directly, with each other, in the first place 🤷♂️ Someone made a comment that winning the cup would have masked somewhat how poor last season was. I agreed and said the same thing had happened in 2011/12. No idea why you got so hot and bothered about it tbh 🤷🏻♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasavallan Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 For me, nothing will surpass the pre-season friendly at Tynie against Boro in July 2005. I just turned up to watch nothing special after a poor pre-season tour of Ireland and then to be blown away watching Burley's team include Schemel, Brellier, Miko, Bednar, Pospisil, Cesnauskis, Janny and Rudi. It may only have been a 1-1 draw but it was so much more. HAPPY DAYS If only Romanov's ego had not got in the way of leaving Burley to manage the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts1975 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Just now, To Be Frank said: Someone made a comment that winning the cup would have masked somewhat how poor last season was. I agreed and said the same thing had happened in 2011/12. No idea why you got so hot and bothered about it tbh 🤷🏻♂️ I am not getting hot and bothered about it and whether it was you, or anyone else, I would have said the very same thing Your post and context very much came across like if we won the cup last year, Sergio and Leveins overall performance would have ranked the same. In achievement yes, ability wise, questionable I Would have been over the moon if we won last year as a supporter and over the moon for Craig Levein, as I know how much it would have meant to him. No question But, and it’s a big but, if I was then to sit back in the aftermath and compare last season against Sergio’s season in charge I would be saying to myself, out of the 2 managers, who effectively got the same result or achievement (barring 1 league place) it would have took far more ability and skill for Sergio to have achieved what he achieved, Vs Levein, and given the circumstances both operated under Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts1975 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, Tasavallan said: For me, nothing will surpass the pre-season friendly at Tynie against Boro in July 2005. I just turned up to watch nothing special after a poor pre-season tour of Ireland and then to be blown away watching Burley's team include Schemel, Brellier, Miko, Bednar, Pospisil, Cesnauskis, Janny and Rudi. It may only have been a 1-1 draw but it was so much more. HAPPY DAYS If only Romanov's ego had not got in the way of leaving Burley to manage the team. It’s one of the saddest things to this day that Romanov wanted to be the hero and yet if he just sat back and controlled his ego, for that one season, he would have been revered for ever more and created a legacy for him as a human being, in our lifetime and many lifetimes to come I Simply put it down to the fact that the man was just plain mad otherwise he would have left things be and got, what surely would have been the ultimate reward for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paulo Sergio Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 You don't need to win a trophy to be a successful manager to suggest you do is nonsense. Back to back 3rd place finishes and the group stage of a European cup is something special for a club like Hearts. Especially when you're saddled with debt. Levein done fantastic in his first spell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siegementality Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Gregorski said: Wasn't giving you a history lesson mate, I was replying to somebody else. I had to give up on you after you lumped Alex McDonald in to a category that included Graham Rix and Tommy McLean. 😂 Lumping managers into one of two categories, 'succesfull' and 'unsuccessfull' based on whether they won a trophy or not is incredibly simplistic and ignores so many other barometers that you could use to judge a manager on. And when the end result is that you end up lumping a Hearts legend like Alex McDonald in with the likes of Rix who was at the club for a few months it's just farcical. You know the point I was making and you’ve certainly laboured the feck out of yours! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 18 minutes ago, Hearts1975 said: I am not getting hot and bothered about it and whether it was you, or anyone else, I would have said the very same thing Your post and context very much came across like if we won the cup last year, Sergio and Leveins overall performance would have ranked the same. In achievement yes, ability wise, questionable I Would have been over the moon if we won last year as a supporter and over the moon for Craig Levein, as I know how much it would have meant to him. No question But, and it’s a big but, if I was then to sit back in the aftermath and compare last season against Sergio’s season in charge I would be saying to myself, out of the 2 managers, who effectively got the same result or achievement (barring 1 league place) it would have took far more ability and skill for Sergio to have achieved what he achieved, Vs Levein, and given the circumstances both operated under Still no idea how you read all that into this: 10 hours ago, To Be Frank said: In 2012 the cup win covered up some dreadful league performances and a 6th place league finish. A cup win last year would have done exactly the same. 🤦♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregorski Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, siegementality said: You know the point I was making and you’ve certainly laboured the feck out of yours! You mean I gave a concise, well thought out explanation of my opinion? Aww shucks, cheers mate. 😍 Edited August 14, 2019 by Gregorski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paulo Sergio Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, To Be Frank said: Still no idea how you read all that into this: 🤦♂️ Who did Levein beat to get to the final compared to Sergio? Which manager had players only showing up one day a week for training while not getting paid? Sergio did a better job under much more difficult circumstances. Ian black said the players knew exactly what their job was when they stepped out on to the pitch. Give Sergio the opportunity to show what he can do under Budge. I ****ing bet you it would be better than two 6th place finishes. Edited August 14, 2019 by Bring Back Paulo Sergio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts1975 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, To Be Frank said: Still no idea how you read all that into this: 🤦♂️ I probably understood the dreadful league performances in 2012 more than I did last year That’s all I was saying sure you will agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts1975 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, Bring Back Paulo Sergio said: Who did Levein beat to get to the final compared to Sergio? Which manager had players only showing up one day a week for training while not getting paid? Sergio did a better job under much more difficult circumstances. Ian black said the players knew exactly what their job was when they stepped out on to the pitch. Give Sergio the opportunity to show what he can do under Budge. I ****ing bet you it would be better than two 6th place finishes. He did indeed. He also said that the training/tactics was the best that he had under any manager with Sergio including Levein, not to mention his reaction when asked about training under Levein What would Ian Black know though I’m sure he isn’t as best placed as some on here to give an informed opinion or assessment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 19 minutes ago, Bring Back Paulo Sergio said: Who did Levein beat to get to the final compared to Sergio? Which manager had players only showing up one day a week for training while not getting paid? Sergio did a better job under much more difficult circumstances. Ian black said the players knew exactly what their job was when they stepped out on to the pitch. Give Sergio the opportunity to show what he can do under Budge. I ****ing bet you it would be better than two 6th place finishes. Whoosh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 20 minutes ago, Hearts1975 said: I probably understood the dreadful league performances in 2012 more than I did last year That’s all I was saying sure you will agree Definitely. We had a far better squad last year. But then again we did have Rudi in 2012 😍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, Hearts1975 said: He did indeed. He also said that the training/tactics was the best that he had under any manager with Sergio including Levein, not to mention his reaction when asked about training under Levein What would Ian Black know though I’m sure he isn’t as best placed as some on here to give an informed opinion or assessment. I’m not sure I’d hold Ian Black up as any sort of expert witness on any subject. Maybe painting and decorating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 58 minutes ago, Bring Back Paulo Sergio said: You don't need to win a trophy to be a successful manager to suggest you do is nonsense. Back to back 3rd place finishes and the group stage of a European cup is something special for a club like Hearts. Especially when you're saddled with debt. Levein done fantastic in his first spell. He did and I was gutted when he left, how times change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 43 minutes ago, Bring Back Paulo Sergio said: Who did Levein beat to get to the final compared to Sergio? Which manager had players only showing up one day a week for training while not getting paid? Sergio did a better job under much more difficult circumstances. Ian black said the players knew exactly what their job was when they stepped out on to the pitch. Give Sergio the opportunity to show what he can do under Budge. I ****ing bet you it would be better than two 6th place finishes. Gowser said the same, we need someone in the same mould. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paulo Sergio Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 27 minutes ago, To Be Frank said: I’m not sure I’d hold Ian Black up as any sort of expert witness on any subject. Maybe painting and decorating. I know. You don't need to believe Ian Black though. You just need to remember 19/5/2012 and how we got there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenks Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 3 hours ago, Debut 4 said: The use of the word ‘failure’ can be dramatic or a bit vague. In what context does it sit with Alex MacDonald? Not winning a trophy can be deemed a failure on that specific task but before those Always the Bridesmaid moments he’d built something special to at least be in that position. If anything, and in modern times, his and Jim Jefferies eras should be the benchmark to build from for aspiring Hearts teams. As time goes on, we’ve yet to meet another manager who can produce such at Hearts. We all crave that turning point where we become ‘trophy laden’ , in the top 3 as a staple , but at this moment those past eras are fast becoming something we shouldn’t quite be in a rush to criticise or pick holes in. Throw in dominating the derby. Sometimes its all we had to shout about in those barren trophy seasons. I do genuinely think that Paulo Sergio could have done this if he didn't have to work with a squad who weren't getting paid. If he had another couple of years I think he would have done well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 54 minutes ago, Hearts1975 said: I probably understood the dreadful league performances in 2012 more than I did last year That’s all I was saying sure you will agree Were they actually that dreadful? We whitewashed Hibs easily, won at Ibrox and beat Celtic at Tynie. Sergio seemed to do poorly against the smaller teams like Killie etc. However, this is something he could have easily sorted out if he had stayed on for another season given he only actually signed 1 player (Beattie). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocobeab Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 I maintain we have to keep in mind the whole picture. For my money the club outperformed expectation coming out of administration. With hee haw spending money Robbie did a turn with freebies and kids. As the clubs finances were diverted towards stability and the stand Cathro and Levein have struggled on scraping around using mid table levels of spending. Since the stand went up (and with the assistance of benefactors) we’re now starting to aim a little higher with likes of Naismith, Whelan, Damour and Washington. I imagine Budge may be giving CL this year with the new higher levels of spending as a last chance saloon. In the long history of our club two or three years of mid table mediocrity as we emerged out of administration and rebuilt from the foundations is perhaps understandable. Now that we seem to be back spending a bit of cash there’s a whole new pressure on Levein. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts1975 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 45 minutes ago, Randy Marsh said: Were they actually that dreadful? We whitewashed Hibs easily, won at Ibrox and beat Celtic at Tynie. Sergio seemed to do poorly against the smaller teams like Killie etc. However, this is something he could have easily sorted out if he had stayed on for another season given he only actually signed 1 player (Beattie). Totally agree. No argument there. I was quoting another poster and when using the word “dreadful”. Tongue in cheek on my part. If you read my previous posts back should make more sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away up in Gorgie Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 17 hours ago, Cruyff Turn said: I asked Frank if the Spurs manager had won anything. 🤷♂️ That is all. 😁 He won the Argentinian league as a player 😱 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gowestjambo Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Brian Clough when asked what made a good Manager - said having good players!! Now he was a guy who made ordinary players great through brilliant man management and motivation. This has been my main problem with Craig Levein. Without good players he was unable to produce results, and at one time said "I don't know how to get this team to score goals" Now we definitely in my opinion have better players, lets see if he can produce a winning team - not be outplayed by Ross County at home. Because, if those better players do not produce improved results, there is only one man to blame!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 16 minutes ago, gowestjambo said: Brian Clough when asked what made a good Manager - said having good players!! Now he was a guy who made ordinary players great through brilliant man management and motivation. This has been my main problem with Craig Levein. Without good players he was unable to produce results, and at one time said "I don't know how to get this team to score goals" Now we definitely in my opinion have better players, lets see if he can produce a winning team - not be outplayed by Ross County at home. Because, if those better players do not produce improved results, there is only one man to blame!! No, let’s get a manager with more progressive ideas in to make the most of the decent squad Levein has assembled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siegementality Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 30 minutes ago, gowestjambo said: Brian Clough when asked what made a good Manager - said having good players!! Now he was a guy who made ordinary players great through brilliant man management and motivation. This has been my main problem with Craig Levein. Without good players he was unable to produce results, and at one time said "I don't know how to get this team to score goals" Now we definitely in my opinion have better players, lets see if he can produce a winning team - not be outplayed by Ross County at home. Because, if those better players do not produce improved results, there is only one man to blame!! Craig Levein "I don't know how to get this team to score goals". Bye then 👋 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gowestjambo Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 16 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: No, let’s get a manager with more progressive ideas in to make the most of the decent squad Levein has assembled. I am 100% in agreement with you. My post was based upon him still being here and us making the most of a bad situation.If he continues to fail even with better players it hopefully would speed up his demise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gowestjambo Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 minute ago, siegementality said: Craig Levein "I don't know how to get this team to score goals". Bye then 👋 Completely agree. Any manager uttering those words should be fired on the spot! Confessing to be Clueless. It just seems very difficult for Ann Budge to see this!! But if we have to put up with him, lets at least see the team playing attractive football and scoring goals!! Incidentally, when we play a high tempo pressing game, we are a much better team. We thought after ending celtics run by winning 4-0 we had found a winning formula. Nope back to Leveins slow pedestrian method which never works.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 17 minutes ago, Hearts1975 said: Totally agree. No argument there. I was quoting another poster and when using the word “dreadful”. Tongue in cheek on my part. If you read my previous posts back should make more sense You are spot on. Sergio did very well with limited time and resources, Levein has been appalling with loads of time and a huge resources. Not comparable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Magic Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Hearts1975 said: Totally agree. No argument there. I was quoting another poster and when using the word “dreadful”. Tongue in cheek on my part. If you read my previous posts back should make more sense You have not got a clue what you are talking about sunshine. Pick that mask up on your way out. Theres a good boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 14 minutes ago, gowestjambo said: I am 100% in agreement with you. My post was based upon him still being here and us making the most of a bad situation.If he continues to fail even with better players it hopefully would speed up his demise! Hopefully we won’t lose. - Perhaps a couple of scrappy 1-0 wins will do the job 👍🏻 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 16 minutes ago, Vlad Magic said: You have not got a clue what you are talking about sunshine. Pick that mask up on your way out. Theres a good boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 18 minutes ago, Vlad Magic said: You have not got a clue what you are talking about sunshine. Pick that mask up on your way out. Theres a good boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts1975 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 4 hours ago, Vlad Magic said: You have not got a clue what you are talking about sunshine. Pick that mask up on your way out. Theres a good boy. I’ve got more of a clue than someone who knows nothing about me jumping up and down in the background packing away at their keyboard crying infiltrator and because I’m defending Sergio’s tenure as a manager over Levein and with another poster The same Sergio that masterminded a 5-1 masterclass in the SCF to our little vermin neighbours down the road in the same season I am defending him in .. that makes sense right enough Sorry to cleanse your wee erection that must have popped up but you couldn’t be further from the truth. I’m 40 plus years supporting Hearts so just do one with the mask comments, ok? It’s a forum, and if you disagree with me debate what I’m saying rather than act like an idiot and try and get personal. Shite patter in all honesty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB GIN Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 4 hours ago, gowestjambo said: Completely agree. Any manager uttering those words should be fired on the spot! Confessing to be Clueless. It just seems very difficult for Ann Budge to see this!! But if we have to put up with him, lets at least see the team playing attractive football and scoring goals!! Incidentally, when we play a high tempo pressing game, we are a much better team. We thought after ending celtics run by winning 4-0 we had found a winning formula. Nope back to Leveins slow pedestrian method which never works.... Was actually stunned when he said this admitting he hasn’t a clue but he can’t sack himself Think it’s best he moves aside and let’s a new manager run the show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 4 hours ago, Vlad Magic said: You have not got a clue what you are talking about sunshine. Pick that mask up on your way out. Theres a good boy. Poor stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 8 hours ago, To Be Frank said: Someone made a comment that winning the cup would have masked somewhat how poor last season was. I agreed and said the same thing had happened in 2011/12. 🤷🏻♂️ Jesus wept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Considering putting my toys back in the pram until we see how these signings pan out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 hour ago, NB GIN said: Was actually stunned when he said this admitting he hasn’t a clue but he can’t sack himself Think it’s best he moves aside and let’s a new manager run the show Yeah. Sure he will be moving aside after adding Naismith, Pereira, Damour and Whelan to an already decent squad. How about calling a ceasefire for 5 or 6 games and actually see how this new look squad performs? Just a wee idea. A lot of folk, wasting an awful lot of time with this circular negativity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tntjambo Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 once we lose them all which we will what you going to say then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB GIN Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 6 hours ago, Mr Elwood P said: Yeah. Sure he will be moving aside after adding Naismith, Pereira, Damour and Whelan to an already decent squad. How about calling a ceasefire for 5 or 6 games and actually see how this new look squad performs? Just a wee idea. A lot of folk, wasting an awful lot of time with this circular negativity! Good signings totally agree but I just think he is incapable of the job The players are lost out there with him in charge but he ain’t going anywhere so let’s see tick tock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck berrys hairline Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Three players on a year deal and people are happy. It's back to frigging square one next summer 😅 it's the constant chopping and changing that causes us to have no way or means of implementing our tactics to our biggest strengths. We will never build any momentum at this rate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB GIN Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Mr Elwood P said: Yeah. Sure he will be moving aside after adding Naismith, Pereira, Damour and Whelan to an already decent squad. How about calling a ceasefire for 5 or 6 games and actually see how this new look squad performs? Just a wee idea. A lot of folk, wasting an awful lot of time with this circular negativity! One question do you go to the games cause it isn’t negativity from most on here Watching in real life is simply brutal Edited August 15, 2019 by NB GIN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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