Matthew Le Tissier Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Alesha MacPhail murder: Boy, 16, found guilty http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-47322658 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 As the trial went on it exposed more than just this murderer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Utterly disgusting case. I fear that some pretty horrible revelations may come out, although none compare with the actual crime itself, which the little ***** is clearly guilty of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William H. Bonney Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Name and shame the wee *****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, Dino Velvet said: Name and shame the wee *****. they can't until he is 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishguy Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, milky_26 said: they can't until he is 18 Might be getting named tomorrow. Judge is trying to overturn that law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 29 minutes ago, Dino Velvet said: Name and shame the wee *****. Someone will probably put it on Twitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William H. Bonney Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 24 minutes ago, milky_26 said: they can't until he is 18 Judge can if he feels it's in the public's interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewis2006 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 His name is all over twitter. He’s got his own YouTube page and posted a couple of strange videos playing on his trampoline. Hope the wee murdering nonce is dealt with in prison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Gordons Gloves Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Genuine question, what good comes of naming him? The law is that you can't be named until you're 18, now in this case, he's going to be behind bars way beyond his 18th but if you set a precedent that u-18s can be named then what about those that have been convicted of a much lesser crime at say, aged 15, but they're named and as such, their whole life could be impacted rather than give them an opportunity to be rehabilitated and try and lead a more 'beneficial to society' life. Note - this case itself is horrific and i'm delighted he's been found guilty. There was a recent piece in the news where a girl had murdered an 18 year old but at the time of her crime and conviction she was u-18, she was recently named as she has reached 18. How does naming this murdered now instead of in 18 months or so serve the public interest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William H. Bonney Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Craig Gordons Gloves said: Genuine question, what good comes of naming him? The law is that you can't be named until you're 18, now in this case, he's going to be behind bars way beyond his 18th but if you set a precedent that u-18s can be named then what about those that have been convicted of a much lesser crime at say, aged 15, but they're named and as such, their whole life could be impacted rather than give them an opportunity to be rehabilitated and try and lead a more 'beneficial to society' life. Note - this case itself is horrific and i'm delighted he's been found guilty. There was a recent piece in the news where a girl had murdered an 18 year old but at the time of her crime and conviction she was u-18, she was recently named as she has reached 18. How does naming this murdered now instead of in 18 months or so serve the public interest? Very much doubt you can rehabilitate someone who choses to rape and murder children. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Gordons Gloves Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dino Velvet said: Very much doubt you can rehabilitate someone who choses to rape and murder children. You misunderstand me, i'm talking about lesser crimes, not this particular guy, who can stay in jail his entire life as far as i'm concerned. Not many of us were perfect teenagers and i suspect most of us did something that was against the law at some point - minor in most cases. However, what if a teenager makes one mistake and they're tried for it, found guilty, sent away for a year or so and in that time have the opportunity to learn how to be a more valuable member of society yet upon their release, find that they can't get anywhere because there name is all over the place and while they've served their time, they are forever colored by their one mistake. The point i'm making is that if the case law is changed, it might lead to a change across the board. It's not about this particular case. Question still stands though, what good comes from naming this guy now as opposed to when he's 18 (and will still be behind bars for most, if not all his life). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunks Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Naming him could put his family in danger, despite that family providing evidence that helped to convict him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helzibob Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Just been on Facebook and saw a couple of posts naming him and showing his picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Dino Velvet said: Name and shame the wee *****. Shame? Unsure if naming him will have any effect on the *****. It would obviously satisfy a lot of public curiosity, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboelite Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Dannie Boy said: As the trial went on it exposed more than just this murderer. Yes there is certainly more underlying in this case but he was clearly guilty and will not see freedom for a very long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Cockade Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 just a horrible crime can't even begin to understand how anybody could do that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haveyouheard 22 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 I couldnt bring myself to read about it, just a horror story.. poor lassie Glad he's been found guilty He should never be released, ever, awful stuff from the ^^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Салатные палочки Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 I can't read about it. I am interested in murder cases but I just can't bring myself to read about this one. Just horrible. I seen a video she did for YouTube on the news earlier. Just an innocent wee girl making videos of nothing in particular like loads of wee kids do these days like their YouTube idols. It's just bloody heart breaking. I seen a picture of the lad that did it last summer as a guy I knew had lived on Rothsey and knew him. I had no interest in seeing him then and I have no interest in seeing him now. All I want to know is that he's locked up for a long time and will suffer for his sick actions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 This trial has exposed the Isle of Bute as like something out of The Wicker Man. A seriously fecked up place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Naming him is in the public interest. While in some respects it doesn't matter. It won't bring the poor girl back or help her family. But it exposes him to the full public knowledge of what he has done. No hiding place. And there can be discussion about him, his background and family. It's just all in the open. Which it should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Dino Velvet said: Very much doubt you can rehabilitate someone who choses to rape and murder children. And why should we. That crime deserves death. Not a deterrent. A reflection of the monstrosity of the crime. It's called justice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Dunks said: Naming him could put his family in danger, despite that family providing evidence that helped to convict him. From who? The local community already know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocobeab Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, Cade said: This trial has exposed the Isle of Bute as like something out of The Wicker Man. A seriously fecked up place. Genuine question. I’ve been following it via mainstream media and haven’t heard anything to support that view, what have I missed? Stress I am not having a pop, just wondering what I had missed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, Cade said: This trial has exposed the Isle of Bute as like something out of The Wicker Man. A seriously fecked up place. Eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunks Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, jake said: From who? The local community already know. Idiots and arseholes. Loads about unfortunately. I include the media in that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, Dunks said: Idiots and arseholes. Loads about unfortunately. I include the media in that. Fair enough . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crete Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 What the parents of Alesha are going through is heartbreaking my thoughts are with all her family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 7 hours ago, Crete said: What the parents of Alesha are going through is heartbreaking my thoughts are with all her family. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better call Saul Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Hopefully some of the residents of the big hoose will voice thier opinion with there fists with this evil . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Camazzola Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, Ferris Bueller said: Hopefully some of the residents of the big hoose will voice thier opinion with there fists with this evil . The orcs from Ibrox? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftBack Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Not trying to make a political point and some might disagree but I think it is shocking how little coverage the verdict has had in TV and papers down south. There are some papers who don't even have it on their front page... Compare it to other and equally shocking cases. I do think there is a 'class' divide on this sort of thing as well as a north/south one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 The boy that did this should never be released from the highest cat of prison in Scotland. He should die in jail,. Hopefully at the age of , at least 116. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 What a messed up world it is. I can't bring myself to read all the grisly details. Just tragic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Winchester Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Judge has lifted the ban and it is the name that has been circulating online for months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Animals like him should be put to death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 4 hours ago, LeftBack said: Not trying to make a political point and some might disagree but I think it is shocking how little coverage the verdict has had in TV and papers down south. There are some papers who don't even have it on their front page... Compare it to other and equally shocking cases. I do think there is a 'class' divide on this sort of thing as well as a north/south one. Totally agree, the coverage down here has been minimal. But in a way , I'm quite glad. the details are too horrific. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 45 minutes ago, Dean Winchester said: Judge has lifted the ban and it is the name that has been circulating online for months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiewave Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, LeftBack said: Not trying to make a political point and some might disagree but I think it is shocking how little coverage the verdict has had in TV and papers down south. There are some papers who don't even have it on their front page... Compare it to other and equally shocking cases. I do think there is a 'class' divide on this sort of thing as well as a north/south one. Nah, it was the lead story on the BBC News last night. It's currently on the front pages of the websites of The Guardian, The Daily Telegraph, The Times, The Independent, The Sun, The Mirror and the BBC. See also Shannon Matthews (when she was still believed missing) and April Jones. Edited February 22, 2019 by Gorgiewave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairdryer Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 4 hours ago, Cruyff Turn said: The boy that did this should never be released from the highest cat of prison in Scotland. He should die in jail,. Hopefully at the age of , at least 116. Exactly it will take a brave person to release someone like that in the future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Artful Dodger said: Animals like him should be put to death. Animals wouldn’t behave like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 47 minutes ago, Hairdryer said: Exactly it will take a brave person to release someone like that in the future He should have his baws clipped as well. Live the rest of his time as a feckin eunuch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftBack Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Gorgiewave said: Nah, it was the lead story on the BBC News last night. It's currently on the front pages of the websites of The Guardian, The Daily Telegraph, The Times, The Independent, The Sun, The Mirror and the BBC. See also Shannon Matthews (when she was still believed missing) and April Jones. Fair enough. As someone said, the details are horrific Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dia Liom Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 18 hours ago, Cade said: This trial has exposed the Isle of Bute as like something out of The Wicker Man. A seriously fecked up place. Did not realise this about Bute as I've never been. Can you elaborate? What is so f'd up about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 22 minutes ago, Dia Liom said: Did not realise this about Bute as I've never been. Can you elaborate? What is so f'd up about it? Seems to be Ned Heaven. Drugs, booze, violence and casual sex rife in the youth community. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riddley Walker Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Cade said: Seems to be Ned Heaven. Drugs, booze, violence and casual sex rife in the youth community. Like all of Scotland then. Hopefully this wee ***** has his door unlocked every night for the majority of his sentence, which will hopefully be the rest of his life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 16 year old? This is mental. Sick world we live in these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bindy Badgy Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 On 21/02/2019 at 23:28, Crete said: What the parents of Alesha are going through is heartbreaking my thoughts are with all her family. Spot on. Although obviously not comparable it isn't going to be easy for the perpetrator's family either. They provided some of the evidence that led to him being arrested and locked up so I would assume they want nothing to do with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveofthegame Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 As a father to a little girl this case has sickened me to the absolute core. The rodent should be hung. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William H. Bonney Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 56 minutes ago, Stokesy said: Spot on. Although obviously not comparable it isn't going to be easy for the perpetrator's family either. They provided some of the evidence that led to him being arrested and locked up so I would assume they want nothing to do with him. I'd imagine the parents will still maintain contact with their son but whatever love they had for him will be greatly diminished. I can't imagine how I'd feel if it were my son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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