Geoff the Mince Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 1 hour ago, JamesM48 said: Well hes nothing to lose with people like you who cant stand so at least hes being honest about his opinion about the situation however unpalatable it may be to some people. Hes legally right too. That Javid is a power hungry " Uncle Tom" ^^^^ . You are an extremist . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sausage Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Just want to clarify something, hopefully someone wiser than me can confirm. Tuesday: Britain revoked citizenship on the basis that she is, by law, a citizen of Bangladesh. This is perfectly legal at the time? Wednesday: Bangladesh say she isn’t welcome and therefore becomes stateless. In my simple mind, is it not Bangladesh who are in the wrong? She is under 21 with a Bangladeshi parent which means that, by Bangladeshi law, she is a citizen of Bangladesh. As Britain revoked her citizenship, Bangladesh cannot revoke her citizenship under UN law as it makes her stateless? Given the uproar and general sense that Javid is in the wrong, I feel like I’m missing something here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimKongUno Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Captain Sausage said: Just want to clarify something, hopefully someone wiser than me can confirm. Tuesday: Britain revoked citizenship on the basis that she is, by law, a citizen of Bangladesh. This is perfectly legal at the time? Wednesday: Bangladesh say she isn’t welcome and therefore becomes stateless. In my simple mind, is it not Bangladesh who are in the wrong? She is under 21 with a Bangladeshi parent which means that, by Bangladeshi law, she is a citizen of Bangladesh. As Britain revoked her citizenship, Bangladesh cannot revoke her citizenship under UN law as it makes her stateless? Given the uproar and general sense that Javid is in the wrong, I feel like I’m missing something here... Your bang on the money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, JimKongUno said: Your bang on the money Was just away to ask this very question , followed by why are they still giving this vile creature a voice. She’s now willing to change , don’t believe a word it says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 34 minutes ago, Captain Sausage said: Just want to clarify something, hopefully someone wiser than me can confirm. Tuesday: Britain revoked citizenship on the basis that she is, by law, a citizen of Bangladesh. This is perfectly legal at the time? Wednesday: Bangladesh say she isn’t welcome and therefore becomes stateless. In my simple mind, is it not Bangladesh who are in the wrong? She is under 21 with a Bangladeshi parent which means that, by Bangladeshi law, she is a citizen of Bangladesh. As Britain revoked her citizenship, Bangladesh cannot revoke her citizenship under UN law as it makes her stateless? Given the uproar and general sense that Javid is in the wrong, I feel like I’m missing something here... That’s a great point, we got in there first, so not our problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¼½¾ Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Captain Sausage said: Just want to clarify something, hopefully someone wiser than me can confirm. Tuesday: Britain revoked citizenship on the basis that she is, by law, a citizen of Bangladesh. This is perfectly legal at the time? Wednesday: Bangladesh say she isn’t welcome and therefore becomes stateless. In my simple mind, is it not Bangladesh who are in the wrong? She is under 21 with a Bangladeshi parent which means that, by Bangladeshi law, she is a citizen of Bangladesh. As Britain revoked her citizenship, Bangladesh cannot revoke her citizenship under UN law as it makes her stateless? Given the uproar and general sense that Javid is in the wrong, I feel like I’m missing something here... From what I read, Javid said something along the lines of, that the process to remove her citizenship had started. If that's right, I'd imagine she'll technically still be a British citizen until that's complete, however long that takes. Bangladesh haven't revoked her citizenship, as she has never had citizenship there. She may have qualified to apply for citizenship, but they've nipped in with a preemptive 'Bolt!'. Sadly I think she'll end up back here, unless we're lucky and she doesn't survive till then. Edited February 21, 2019 by Lemongrab Spelt rong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 23 minutes ago, sadj said: Was just away to ask this very question , followed by why are they still giving this vile creature a voice. She’s now willing to change , don’t believe a word it says. What kind of message does that send out to the rest of these nutters, if we take this piece of scum back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannonfoda Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Trial by Daily Mail at its worst. She was a kid when she was groomed to go there. She's still being groomed effectively and yet UK breaks international law by cancelling her citizenship. This should have been dealt with quietly and calmly out of sight of media and the useless kneejerk politicians. Get her home, debrief, council, deprogramme, and learn lessons on how to stop any repeats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannonfoda Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 1 hour ago, luckyBatistuta said: What kind of message does that send out to the rest of these nutters, if we take this piece of scum back. She was a groomed kid... and she's still being groomed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 A groomed kid? She was a straight A student... hardly a stupid young girl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 13 minutes ago, Jeff said: A groomed kid? She was a straight A student... hardly a stupid young girl Exactly the type targeted . Long before ISIS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted February 21, 2019 Author Share Posted February 21, 2019 3 hours ago, luckyBatistuta said: Uncle Tom Even if Begum had a suicide vest on, Corbyn would still want to give her a hug. Wouldn't be the worst thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Captain Sausage said: Just want to clarify something, hopefully someone wiser than me can confirm. Tuesday: Britain revoked citizenship on the basis that she is, by law, a citizen of Bangladesh. This is perfectly legal at the time? Wednesday: Bangladesh say she isn’t welcome and therefore becomes stateless. In my simple mind, is it not Bangladesh who are in the wrong? She is under 21 with a Bangladeshi parent which means that, by Bangladeshi law, she is a citizen of Bangladesh. As Britain revoked her citizenship, Bangladesh cannot revoke her citizenship under UN law as it makes her stateless? Given the uproar and general sense that Javid is in the wrong, I feel like I’m missing something here... Government has decided to take a stand. More because it wants to than pandering to public opinion. Though it is certainly in line with public opinion. Losing the case on appeal isn't a disaster. Sending a message she is an enemy which she is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 18 minutes ago, Jeff said: A groomed kid? She was a straight A student... hardly a stupid young girl 3 minutes ago, jake said: Exactly the type targeted . Long before ISIS. Some people are underestimating 1. People's determination to support Islamic State. Some because of the suffering of people in Syria, as opposed to ideology. 2. That girls can know their own minds. There were 15 year old terrorists in N.Ireland too. And everywhere else. I don't know the girls of course. But they seem pretty able to make their own decisions. And take responsibility for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, AlphonseCapone said: Wouldn't be the worst thing. never thought about it like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 27 minutes ago, cannonfoda said: She was a groomed kid... and she's still being groomed... Oh, somebody with inside knowledge, let’s see what you’ve got? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 30 minutes ago, cannonfoda said: Trial by Daily Mail at its worst. She was a kid when she was groomed to go there. She's still being groomed effectively and yet UK breaks international law by cancelling her citizenship. This should have been dealt with quietly and calmly out of sight of media and the useless kneejerk politicians. Get her home, debrief, council, deprogramme, and learn lessons on how to stop any repeats. Would you like to give her a wee hug too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 45 minutes ago, cannonfoda said: Trial by Daily Mail at its worst. She was a kid when she was groomed to go there. She's still being groomed effectively and yet UK breaks international law by cancelling her citizenship. This should have been dealt with quietly and calmly out of sight of media and the useless kneejerk politicians. Get her home, debrief, council, deprogramme, and learn lessons on how to stop any repeats. Is she being used by the UK Government do you think? Deflect away from the brexit shambles and make Britain look good for a few days? I’m in no doubt she’ll get the decision overturned btw and come back here but it could be a cynical deflection tactic for a bit. It’s crossed my mind I’ll admit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 5 hours ago, jack D and coke said: Is she being used by the UK Government do you think? Deflect away from the brexit shambles and make Britain look good for a few days? I’m in no doubt she’ll get the decision overturned btw and come back here but it could be a cynical deflection tactic for a bit. It’s crossed my mind I’ll admit. Over 150 jihadi brides wanting to go home in the same week. Strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannonfoda Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, luckyBatistuta said: Oh, somebody with inside knowledge, let’s see what you’ve got? What's the difference between her and the kids that were groomed in rotherham etc? She was a kid (15 years old) subjected to constant trickle of grooming and propaganda that resulted in her travelling. Once there she was still a kid and technically she was raped repeatedly resulting in yet more trauma. It could actually happen to anyone's kids here - the power that social media gives abusers is scary. So now look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself "am I ok with taking away all protection from a raped vulnerable child"? If you are then theres no hope for us. Jack: reason there is so many wanting to return is due to the area controlled by IS pretty much falling the last 2-3 weeks - no conspiracy just facts. I love seeing everyone's comments but sometimes the internet just shows you the extremists from all sides and not what should be the middle ground... bit like politics at the moment. Edited February 22, 2019 by cannonfoda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 30 minutes ago, cannonfoda said: What's the difference between her and the kids that were groomed in rotherham etc? She was a kid (15 years old) subjected to constant trickle of grooming and propaganda that resulted in her travelling. Once there she was still a kid and technically she was raped repeatedly resulting in yet more trauma. It could actually happen to anyone's kids here - the power that social media gives abusers is scary. So now look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself "am I ok with taking away all protection from a raped vulnerable child"? If you are then theres no hope for us. Jack: reason there is so many wanting to return is due to the area controlled by IS pretty much falling the last 2-3 weeks - no conspiracy just facts. I love seeing everyone's comments but sometimes the internet just shows you the extremists from all sides and not what should be the middle ground... bit like politics at the moment. What grooming and propaganda have you been subject to? I'll give you some examples if you can't say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimKongUno Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 55 minutes ago, cannonfoda said: So now look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself "am I ok with taking away all protection from a raped vulnerable child"? If you are then theres no hope for us. im not ok with taking away protection of raped children but im all for removing the passports of terrorists that celebrate the bombing of a childrens concert and the beheadings of British aid workers . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 1 hour ago, cannonfoda said: reason there is so many wanting to return is due to the area controlled by IS pretty much falling the last 2-3 weeks - no conspiracy just facts. And if it hadn’t fell these “I want Home brigade” would still be there enjoying the Caliphate and Islamic State. The bubbles burst, for the moment, who’s to say they won’t want to rejoin or join the next incarnation of radical Islam. Are you asking us to risk future innocent lives because these brides and fighters realise it time to flee. Begum is now 19 and if she returns will be allowed all the benefits that 19 year olds enjoy here. Begum and the rest chose to reject these benefits now it’s gone belly up they say that want the benefits back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, JimKongUno said: im not ok with taking away protection of raped children but im all for removing the passports of terrorists that celebrate the bombing of a childrens concert and the beheadings of British aid workers . This young woman hasn't been raped by anyone. She's had 3 children with her husband who she wants to be with again possibly as she said back in Holland with the child. People saying she's been groomed. So anyone that joins the army at 16 here has been groomed? Or picks a partner at 15/16. Or take a a job or choses a college/ university course. All groomed? She made a choice. Maybe people don't understand the appeal of Islamic State. 1. They offered a way of life to people some of whom especially girls who may have had quite a restricted lifestyle in UK etc limiting what they can do, who they can see including arranged marriages. 2. ISIS were one of the main groups fighting Assad. That's Assad the war criminal bombing people / civilians indiscriminately. While we might see ISIS as psychotic thugs beheading people many Muslims saw them as the only ones standing up for Muslims in the area. 3. They were winning. The period 2014-2015 brought major successes. They walked over the army in Iraq. People like to be on the winning side. She and others made choices. Not groomed or no more than any of us are. Edited February 22, 2019 by Mikey1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Just now, Dannie Boy said: And if it hadn’t fell these “I want Home brigade” would still be there enjoying the Caliphate and Islamic State. The bubbles burst, for the moment, who’s to say they won’t want to rejoin or join the next incarnation of radical Islam. Are you asking us to risk future innocent lives because these brides and fighters realise it time to flee. Begum is now 19 and if she returns will be allowed all the benefits that 19 year olds enjoy here. Begum and the rest chose to reject these benefits now it’s gone belly up they say that want the benefits back! And well said too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannonfoda Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Mikey1874 said: This young woman hasn't been raped by anyone. She's had 3 children with her husband who she wants to be with again possibly as she said back in Holland with the child. People saying she's been groomed. So anyone that joins the army at 16 here has been groomed? Or picks a partner at 15/16. Or take a a job or choses a college/ university course. All groomed? She made a choice. Maybe don't understand the appeal of Islamic State. 1. They offered a way of life to people some of whom especially girls who may have had quite a restricted lifestyle why partners in UK etc limiting what they can do, who they can see including arranged marriages. 2. ISIS were one of the main groups fighting Assad. That's Assad the war criminal bombing people / civilians indiscriminately. While we might see ISIS as psychotic thugs beheading people many Muslims saw them as the only ones standing up for Muslims in the area. 3. They were winning. The period 2014-2015 brought major successes. They walked over the army in Iraq. People like to be on the winning side. She and others made choices. Not groomed or no more than any of us are. Nope she was under 18yo therefore she's a kid according to the law. And yes to the grooming bit. I'm out of this arguement as no point arguing with extremists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, cannonfoda said: Nope she was under 18yo therefore she's a kid according to the law. And yes to the grooming bit. I'm out of this arguement as no point arguing with extremists. How exactly was she groomed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 2 hours ago, cannonfoda said: What's the difference between her and the kids that were groomed in rotherham etc? She was a kid (15 years old) subjected to constant trickle of grooming and propaganda that resulted in her travelling. Once there she was still a kid and technically she was raped repeatedly resulting in yet more trauma. It could actually happen to anyone's kids here - the power that social media gives abusers is scary. So now look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself "am I ok with taking away all protection from a raped vulnerable child"? If you are then theres no hope for us. Jack: reason there is so many wanting to return is due to the area controlled by IS pretty much falling the last 2-3 weeks - no conspiracy just facts. I love seeing everyone's comments but sometimes the internet just shows you the extremists from all sides and not what should be the middle ground... bit like politics at the moment. Ill tell you what go and ask my friend Vicki hwr thoughts , her and her daughter missed the explosion in Manchester by 30seconds. They went the wrong way out , came back up the steps and were just out the correct way as the bomb went off. Her and her daughter are still scarred from it. Did they make a choice to get involved. No they didn’t. I’m far from an extremist but my empathy for this vile creature is exactly zero. Why? Because... 1. She has no regrets 2. Thinks Manchester was ok cause it was kinda retaliation 3. She was a straight A student who researched ISIS , made the arrangements for her and her friends to go and made the choice to leave and join. 4. She has shown no sympathy in amy interview until it was made clear she wasn’t getting to just come home then it was oh I’m willing to change. Having previously said I like some British ideals but I believe in ISIS’s ideals and i’m happy living by them. Not like those ideals are extremist is it. To say that people who don’t want this thing anywhere near this country is hardly extremist in itself its rational when you’ve seen what these scumbags have done to people or how these peoples behaviour and ideals have affected people that you care about. The only way she should be allowed back in Britain is if the charges against her are war crimes and she’s jailed for life. Iv done some naughty things in my life but I always knew the difference between right and wrong. Murdering people for ideals etc. She is a criminal and her age is irrelevant to that she knew what she was doing. The only reason this is even getting airtime in my opinion is because her family have some friends in decent places. A family she hasn’t even been in touch with...(that was from her lawyer two days ago) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 1 hour ago, cannonfoda said: Nope she was under 18yo therefore she's a kid according to the law. And yes to the grooming bit. I'm out of this arguement as no point arguing with extremists. 1 hour ago, Mikey1874 said: How exactly was she groomed? So being u18 excuses her from her actions does it. Is your opinion the same on the Bulger killers? Or this lad thats just been found guilty of the murder or Aleasha McPhail. Do you want to go tell the families of those victims that its ok because the killers were u18 they didn’t know what they were doing? You go on about extremists for having a different opinion to you. Your opinion is just as extreme and basically your saying anyone who’s done anything wrong that is u18 it should be ignored because of their age. Kinda ludicrous argument. If your a ***** your a ***** whether you are 10 , 15 or 47 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 1 hour ago, cannonfoda said: I'm out of this argument as no point arguing with extremists. Correct. Leave the wee jihadi where she is and don't give her or her ilk any more airtime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff the Mince Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Governor Tarkin said: Correct. Leave the wee jihadi where she is and don't give her or her ilk any more airtime. What about the Gorgie Jihad ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 The people who see her as a victim and want her brought back and supported are almost as dangerous as the wee cow herself. Hope she rots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Just now, Geoff the Mince said: What about the Gorgie Jihad ? Ship em out there? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said: Correct. Leave the wee jihadi where she is and don't give her or her ilk any more airtime. ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Murray Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 My 15 year old daughter can barely make her way up town without getting on the wrong bus somewhere, this girl planned her journey to Syria, apparently using her sisters passport, and no doubt someone else's credit card, and some are trying to make her out to be the victim here...…...incredible!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Governor Tarkin Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Geoff the Mince said: What about the Gorgie Jihad ? Fought the good fight during the halcyon days of King Vlad's tenure, Geoff. "Bliss it was in that dawn to be alive. But to be young was very heaven." Edited February 22, 2019 by Governor Tarkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, Adam Murray said: I burst out laughing at this! It was wrong of me as when I gave some thought I realised the severed head bin would contain heads of people subjected to unbelievable horror. Begum on the other hand is comfortable with this!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 38 minutes ago, Adam Murray said: Beauty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¼½¾ Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 49 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said: The people who see her as a victim and want her brought back and supported are almost as dangerous as the wee cow herself. Hope she rots. This. Oh, and I don't know why, but 'wee cow' made me. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Let her come back but she has to go to jail for life but atleast she will be safe and her will be ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Kaiser Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Adam Murray said: Council would still want us to pay for the severed head bin to be emptied.....this country..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwindonJambo Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, Jambo_in_Hamilton said: Let her come back but she has to go to jail for life but atleast she will be safe and her will be ok No thanks. It would cost the tax payer £50k a year plus. I would rather she cost us nothing because quite frankly she’s worth less than nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey J J Jr Shabadoo Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 34 minutes ago, SwindonJambo said: No thanks. It would cost the tax payer £50k a year plus. I would rather she cost us nothing because quite frankly she’s worth less than nothing. Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 49 minutes ago, Jambo_in_Hamilton said: Let her come back but she has to go to jail for life but atleast she will be safe and her will be ok She has to be convicted of something first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff the Mince Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Jambo_in_Hamilton said: Let her come back but she has to go to jail for life but atleast she will be safe and her will be ok To save money we could replace jail and stick her in Hamilton . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zico Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Just now, Geoff the Mince said: To save money we could replace jail and stick her in Hamilton . She’d suicide bomb herself after a days worth of questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted February 22, 2019 Author Share Posted February 22, 2019 6 hours ago, cannonfoda said: Nope she was under 18yo therefore she's a kid according to the law. And yes to the grooming bit. I'm out of this arguement as no point arguing with extremists. Your opinion is out of step with the majority on this issue which I think makes you the extremist by definition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¼½¾ Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Zico said: She’d suicide bomb herself after a days worth of questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 2 hours ago, davemclaren said: She has to be convicted of something first. the easy thing to do is introduce a new law - anyone who leaves to travel to a foreign conflict zone, apart from those travelling with an approved charity on humanitarian missions will be convicted of unlawful presence in such a zone- and set the minimum tariff at 20 years- life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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