LeftBack Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 There's an item on BBC website about transfer fees in Britain going from Trevor Francis (1m) to Paul Pogba (98m). So who are our big money transfers. Beslija @£850000...ferguson @£450000? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queensferryjambo Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, LeftBack said: There's an item on BBC website about transfer fees in Britain going from Trevor Francis (1m) to Paul Pogba (98m). So who are our big money transfers. Beslija @£850000...ferguson @£450000? Derek Ferguson was £750,000 / £800,00 range coming from Rangers. John Robertson was £800,000 / £850,000 range coming back from Newcastle. Sorry cannot remember exact figures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftBack Posted February 10, 2019 Author Share Posted February 10, 2019 Just now, queensferryjambo said: Derek Ferguson was £750,000 / £800,00 range coming from Rangers. John Robertson was £800,000 / £850,000 range coming back from Newcastle. Sorry cannot remember exact figures. Forgot Robertson. Didn't think ferguson was as much as that but now you mention it it might have been we signed him for £850k and sold him to Sunderland for £450k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elshin Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Did we even pay for beslija in the end? Did he not return after we only paid so much. Robertson may still be the record transfer in. Nade and kingston were both around £500k in my mind as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 41 minutes ago, queensferryjambo said: Derek Ferguson was £750,000 / £800,00 range coming from Rangers. John Robertson was £800,000 / £850,000 range coming back from Newcastle. Sorry cannot remember exact figures. Interesting that even if you inflation proof Robbo’s transfer fee from 1989 over the last 30 years, it would come in around £2m. Imagine what a player like him would be worth today in the current market? For a proven, 20 goal+ a season striker in his prime you’d have to pay at least double that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambos_1874 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 How come we ended up paying more in transfer fees decades ago that we currently do, despite us having more money now and there being less money in the game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jambos_1874 said: How come we ended up paying more in transfer fees decades ago that we currently do, despite us having more money now and there being less money in the game? The value of players has sent up more than how much money we have. And decades ago we financed these signings through loans we couldn't afford hence getting ourselves into a financial mess. Something we will hopefully never repeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 with debt 5 minutes ago, Jambos_1874 said: How come we ended up paying more in transfer fees decades ago that we currently do, despite us having more money now and there being less money in the game? Because we paid for them with debt which we won't do now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poggs Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Jambos_1874 said: How come we ended up paying more in transfer fees decades ago that we currently do, despite us having more money now and there being less money in the game? In a word. Bosman In previous times the average players (those 95% who make up the main body) were paid much,much less in real terms as they could not leave at the end of their contracts unless a transfer fee was paid. So players were stuck at a club on low wages (big players and big clubs excepted) So if a relatively smaller club actually decided to pay a fee, the wages were still low as they only had to be better than their previous club to make it worthwhile for a player to move. Thus the money had to be made available for a transfer fee or the player couldnt come. Now however, these players can move under freedom of contract so average teams dont need to spend money on transfer fees but need to on wages to persuade player A to join team B. eg - Transfer fee 500k plus 3 years at 50k a year. = total cost £650k now no transfer fee but say 225k a year. Cost roughly the same to the clubs but the players are enriched. Big clubs can still go out and pay both big transfer fees and big wages, but they are exception. Edited February 10, 2019 by poggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newton51 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 The Bosnian bullet is still the record signing. Not sure if we paid the full whack! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Craig Gordon to Sunderland for £9M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Alan Mclaren was just over £1million plus Dave Mcpherson I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnking123 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Don't forget. There was no tv money down in England and they were banned from Europe. We had just as much money in the 80s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim Tall Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 46 minutes ago, Jambos_1874 said: How come we ended up paying more in transfer fees decades ago that we currently do, despite us having more money now and there being less money in the game? Most SPL teams are like that, Aberdeen’s is still Paul Bernard, Dundee United is still Pressley etc. Think one of the main problems is <£1m mean little these days. Previously spending that sort of money bought you a ‘top’ player(at SPL level atleast) but nowadays you’d require more than that for a decent league 1 player down south. You’re more likely to get a better player on a bosman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obua Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Gordan Petric? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/heart-of-midlothian-fc/transferrekorde/verein/43 Seems to have adjusted some of the fees to the current day equilavent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodanny Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/heart-of-midlothian-fc/transferrekorde/verein/43 Seems to have adjusted some of the fees to the current day equilavent Says we got Mikey Stewart on a free, I thought we bust the bank and paid a quid for him. CL exaggerating his worth obviously. Oh wait, it was his loan period when CL signed him. A quid for a loan ?. ? Edited February 10, 2019 by whodanny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, whodanny said: Says we got Mikey Stewart on a free, I thought we bust the bank and paid a quid for him. CL exaggerating his worth obviously. ? £1 a month for the loan before we got him on a free I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodanny Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Just now, graygo said: £1 a month for the loan before we got him on a free I think. Yeah, just realised and edited my post. Still, a quid a month, was he worth £12 for 17 apps ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Green Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 For the low amount we signed Souttar (recorded on that transfer market site) he could be our biggest return ever from buying a player to then selling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_T Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 I have a vague recollection that the transfer fee paid for ownership of Pinilla was close to £2million in the accounts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambonian Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, obua said: Gordan Petric? He was about £500k as well. Couldn't believe we'd spent that on him at the time as he wasn't worth the money. I never rated him at Dundee Utd or Rangers. Think we wasted about £250/300k on Jim Weir from Hamilton as well a few years later. I remember when we got through to the quarter finals of the UEFA Cup, we brought back Robbo and signed Tosh McKinlay for just over a million between them (Tosh cost around £300 or £350k and we also got a short term sponsorship deal with Novafone before getting a years sponsorship from Thorn Security. That was the only season I remember not having a shirt sponsor at the start of it pre-1982. Edited February 10, 2019 by jambonian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambonian Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, jambonian said: He was about £500k as well. Couldn't believe we'd spent that on him at the time as he wasn't worth the money. I never rated him at Dundee Utd or Rangers. Think we wasted about £250/300k on Jim Weir from Hamilton as well a few years earlier. I remember when we got through to the quarter finals of the UEFA Cup, we brought back Robbo and signed Tosh McKinlay for just over a million between them (Tosh cost around £300 or £350k and we also got a short term sponsorship deal with Novafone before getting a years sponsorship from Thorn Security. That was the only season I remember not having a shirt sponsor at the start of it pre-1982. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Factor Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 We also paid around £600k for Skacel before selling him to Southampton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftBack Posted February 10, 2019 Author Share Posted February 10, 2019 25 minutes ago, Martin_T said: I have a vague recollection that the transfer fee paid for ownership of Pinilla was close to £2million in the accounts. ??? Didn't know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Kaiser Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Was it £350k for Niemi? Probably our best ever financial return on a player imo......probably even better than Skacel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 4 hours ago, AlimOzturk said: The value of players has sent up more than how much money we have. And decades ago we financed these signings through loans we couldn't afford hence getting ourselves into a financial mess. Something we will hopefully never repeat. Bosman, the money tends to go to players wages now. At our end free transfers are just as good as £1m signing. Freedom of contract, no transfer fee but the players get paid far more. Robertson was basically the money we received for him in the first place iirc. We also paid £250k for Brian Hamilton and about £400k for Tomeachek(sp) and Petric ? with the SMG money. Imagine paying a fee for a Brian Hamilton quality type play now..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Sifter Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 We were gonnae pay £1 million for Samassi Abou remember...around about the same time we were contemplating a £750k bid for Lee McCulloch ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 54 minutes ago, Martin_T said: I have a vague recollection that the transfer fee paid for ownership of Pinilla was close to £2million in the accounts. I'm pretty sure I would remember that, could it maybe have been combined transfer fees that season or something? Anyway, to the best of my recollection we paid 850k for Derek Ferguson which remains our record, matched by Beslija. Robbo was c. 750k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 3 hours ago, whodanny said: Yeah, just realised and edited my post. Still, a quid a month, was he worth £12 for 17 apps ? I'm guessing our top wage these days is probably somewhere in the region of £5k per week (I'm not ITK though). If he'd been paying us £5k per game in order to play for us, it would still have been terrible value for money for the club! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodanny Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 22 minutes ago, FarmerTweedy said: I'm guessing our top wage these days is probably somewhere in the region of £5k per week (I'm not ITK though). If he'd been paying us £5k per game in order to play for us, it would still have been terrible value for money for the club! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Der Kaiser said: Was it £350k for Niemi? Probably our best ever financial return on a player imo......probably even better than Skacel. Picking up Osman Sow for free and selling him for 1.5 million has to be up there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav M Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Did we not pay £450k or something for makela? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Kaiser Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 hour ago, BigAlim said: Picking up Osman Sow for free and selling him for 1.5 million has to be up there Sorry I meant in terms of what they gave to the team. Phenomenal keeper for peanuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obua Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 7 hours ago, jambonian said: He was about £500k as well. Couldn't believe we'd spent that on him at the time as he wasn't worth the money. I never rated him at Dundee Utd or Rangers. Think we wasted about £250/300k on Jim Weir from Hamilton as well a few years later. I remember when we got through to the quarter finals of the UEFA Cup, we brought back Robbo and signed Tosh McKinlay for just over a million between them (Tosh cost around £300 or £350k and we also got a short term sponsorship deal with Novafone before getting a years sponsorship from Thorn Security. That was the only season I remember not having a shirt sponsor at the start of it pre-1982. Thanks,I couldn’t remember what we paid I just recall how much I thaught he was a waste of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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