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jonnothejambo

Ok folks. On Monday we are going for a new TV. The question is......

 

55" 4K UHD or do we push the boat out at go for an OLED TV at around £1200.

 

Some good deals on but yet to decide. 

 

Any recommendations ? 

 

Thanks in advance 

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Boris

Can you receive 4kUHD via whatever method you get your tv through?

 

So, for exampple, I got a new TV last April, Sony 4k UHD, but my Virgin box can't decode the 4k signal so it's an untapped resource for me at the moment (I should probably get my Virgin box seen to...)

 

Still a good TV though!

 

No idea what the difference between 4k and OLED is though. 

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Lovecraft

If it's a 4k HDR OLED, get that if you can afford it.

 

Means you don't have to buy one for a good while.

 

 

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Mysterion

OLEDS look ace but the min size was 55" and it was just too big for my living room.

 

In the end I went for the Panasonic have an FX-750 range which is their highest spec LED screen and the internals (HCX2 processor, HDR etc) are the same as their OLED range - so if budget is tighter it's worth considering it.

 

Picture quality with 4k sources (eg. BT Sport 4k, Netflix, Amazon) are very impressive.

 

https://www.johnlewis.com/panasonic-tx-49fx750b-led-hdr-4k-ultra-hd-smart-tv-49-with-freeview-play-freesat-hd-art-glass-design-black/p3540256

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Lovecraft
27 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said:

Ok folks. On Monday we are going for a new TV. The question is......

 

55" 4K UHD or do we push the boat out at go for an OLED TV at around £1200.

 

Some good deals on but yet to decide. 

 

Any recommendations ? 

 

Thanks in advance 

 Go to Richer Sounds if you can.

 

Join their VIP club first, which is free, and you get a 6 Year warranty with all TVs.

 

https://www.richersounds.com/tv-projectors/qled-tv.html

 

Some cracking ones here for around £1200 and you may get a discount on some with the VIP club.

 

 

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Ray Gin
41 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said:

Ok folks. On Monday we are going for a new TV. The question is......

 

55" 4K UHD or do we push the boat out at go for an OLED TV at around £1200.

 

Some good deals on but yet to decide. 

 

Any recommendations ? 

 

Thanks in advance 

 

I absolutely love my OLED. So much better when you're watching stuff with lots of dark scenes. 

 

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Ray Gin
20 minutes ago, Boris said:

Can you receive 4kUHD via whatever method you get your tv through?

 

So, for exampple, I got a new TV last April, Sony 4k UHD, but my Virgin box can't decode the 4k signal so it's an untapped resource for me at the moment (I should probably get my Virgin box seen to...)

 

Still a good TV though!

 

No idea what the difference between 4k and OLED is though. 

 

4k is the resolution the screen displays at. Pretty much all OLEDs will be 4k.

 

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Boris
1 minute ago, Ray Gin said:

 

4k is the resolution the screen displays at. Pretty much all OLEDs will be 4k.

 

 

Thanks for the explanation! :thumb:

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hughesie27
48 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said:

Ok folks. On Monday we are going for a new TV. The question is......

 

55" 4K UHD or do we push the boat out at go for an OLED TV at around £1200.

 

Some good deals on but yet to decide. 

 

Any recommendations ? 

 

Thanks in advance 

OLEDs will be 4k as well. The OLED refers to the screen type, not the resolution (4K, 1080p etc) 

OLEDs are undoubtedly better at producing images but they also cost a fair whack more than just "standard" LED screens. OLED's are also capable of producing real BLACK colours as they are able to turn off each individual pixel compared to LED's which cannot and have to effectively make black scenes just very very dark grey in colour.

 

I bought one of these back in November after having a good look at various different options.

 

https://www.johnlewis.com/samsung-ue55nu8000-hdr-1000-4k-ultra-hd-smart-tv-55-with-tvplus-freesat-hd-dynamic-crystal-colour-360-design-ultra-hd-certified-black/p3501176

 

It has bizarrely went up in price from when I bought it (£800) after falling to about £750 in December.

 

One thing I learned when researching was that in addition to LED/OLED differences you also get a sub category of VA or IPS.

 

I think it comes down to personal choice and I'm not sure of the exact science but I think basically VA panels have very narrow viewing angles (so you want to be as close to centre of the screen when viewing as possible) compared to IPS. However VA is much better at creating darker blacks and local dimming (something which OLED's don't need to worry about).

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davemclaren

My 50 inch panasonic plasma is still running well after 10 years. 😎

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Boris
11 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

My 50 inch panasonic plasma is still running well after 10 years. 😎

 

Mine lasted 8 yrs hence the new TV last year.  Was gutted.  Loved that telly.

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Ray Gin
32 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

My 50 inch panasonic plasma is still running well after 10 years. 😎

 

My 42" panasonic plasma was still running strong after 10 years when I upgraded last year. Cracking telly at the time, but not a patch on my new OLED 55" beast. 

 

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Zico

Funnily enough, I just bought this today. Had a look at it in store and the picture was outstanding. Was selling for £2k last summer so a good deal too. https://www.richersounds.com/lg-oled55b8s.html

 

 

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Barack

I've an OLED, with a decent soundbar.

 

Dolby, doesn't get better than this...

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IronJambo
3 hours ago, Barack said:

I've an OLED, with a decent soundbar.

 

Dolby, doesn't get better than this...

It would if you had a decent surround system instead of a crappy soundbar. 

 

I for the record, have a crappy soundbase, and miss a decent 5.1 system.

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Barack
36 minutes ago, IronJambo said:

It would if you had a decent surround system instead of a crappy soundbar. 

 

I for the record, have a crappy soundbase, and miss a decent 5.1 system.

Does the job perfectly well. 

 

And doesn't blast the neighbours off their sofa's either.

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JackLadd

Shelled out £1k for a 55 inch HD sony in 2015, aint spending again for a 4k. My brother got one and it's a bit better for sure but I'll wait for 8k or whatever the next thing is.

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IronJambo
17 minutes ago, Barack said:

Does the job perfectly well. 

 

And doesn't blast the neighbours off their sofa's either.

I'm sure does the job fine but it can definitely be done much better.

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Barack
6 minutes ago, IronJambo said:

I'm sure does the job fine but it can definitely be done much better.

True. But I don't have a cavern of a living room. Anything more...I'd be deaf.

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Ray Gin
1 hour ago, JackLadd said:

Shelled out £1k for a 55 inch HD sony in 2015, aint spending again for a 4k. My brother got one and it's a bit better for sure but I'll wait for 8k or whatever the next thing is.

 

More resolution is pointless unless you have an enormous screen. Would need over 100" to see any difference over 4k.

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Ray Gin
8 hours ago, Zico said:

Funnily enough, I just bought this today. Had a look at it in store and the picture was outstanding. Was selling for £2k last summer so a good deal too. https://www.richersounds.com/lg-oled55b8s.html

 

 

 

That's the one I have. Belter. 

Make sure you tweak the colour settings though. You'll find optimal ones on avforums. 

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Zico
55 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

That's the one I have. Belter. 

Make sure you tweak the colour settings though. You'll find optimal ones on avforums. 

Yeah, did that with my last tv. Glad to get a user’s perspective on it - picture looked incredible. 

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ri Alban
17 hours ago, jonnothejambo said:

Ok folks. On Monday we are going for a new TV. The question is......

 

55" 4K UHD or do we push the boat out at go for an OLED TV at around £1200.

 

Some good deals on but yet to decide. 

 

Any recommendations ? 

 

Thanks in advance 

A bit extreme for JKB.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:batman:

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Harry Potter
21 hours ago, Boris said:

Can you receive 4kUHD via whatever method you get your tv through?

 

So, for exampple, I got a new TV last April, Sony 4k UHD, but my Virgin box can't decode the 4k signal so it's an untapped resource for me at the moment (I should probably get my Virgin box seen to...)

 

Still a good TV though!

 

No idea what the difference between 4k and OLED is though. 

Boris have you got the new V6 box ?

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Boris
59 minutes ago, Harry Potter said:

Boris have you got the new V6 box ?

No, unfortunately not. Worth a go? 

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Harry Potter
3 minutes ago, Boris said:

No, unfortunately not. Worth a go? 

Yes deffo, and i would imagine your 4k signal will come through no problem.

The Tivo can be wireless so im able to tap in to my virgin router hub , which is a great connection.

Think i paid 20 pounds for the upgrade from the old box.

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jonnothejambo
20 hours ago, davemclaren said:

My 50 inch panasonic plasma is still running well after 10 years. 😎

 

Just like yourself, Dave  :wink:.

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davemclaren
6 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said:

 

Just like yourself, Dave  :wink:.

Aye, prior to about 20 years ago you only changed yer tv when it broke. Now it’s all been commoditised so folk do it to get new ‘useful’ features. 

 

I still have the old sky box despite them continuslly trying to get me to upgrade to the new fancy one, pah!!

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IronJambo
7 hours ago, davemclaren said:

Aye, prior to about 20 years ago you only changed yer tv when it broke. Now it’s all been commoditised so folk do it to get new ‘useful’ features. 

 

I still have the old sky box despite them continuslly trying to get me to upgrade to the new fancy one, pah!!

Smart TV functionality is quite important these days. My Blu-ray player isn't much more than an ornament.

The Smart TV stuff on mine is mostly gone as the platform is dated after more then 5 years and they all seem to be using android now. Netflix is the only thing in interested in using but it seems to struggle at times on my telly and I need to cast it from a phone instead. 

I'm not sure what you mean by old sky box. SD or HD? I won't be jumping out my pants for a sky Q box anytime soon but I wouldn't be watching TV in SD either.

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jonnothejambo

Went for the Sony Bravia 55 inch OLED.

 

Thanks to everyone for their responses.

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davemclaren
42 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said:

Went for the Sony Bravia 55 inch OLED.

 

Thanks to everyone for their responses.

What size was your previous telly?

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Ribble
On 09/02/2019 at 18:30, IronJambo said:

Smart TV functionality is quite important these days. My Blu-ray player isn't much more than an ornament.

The Smart TV stuff on mine is mostly gone as the platform is dated after more then 5 years and they all seem to be using android now. Netflix is the only thing in interested in using but it seems to struggle at times on my telly and I need to cast it from a phone instead. 

I'm not sure what you mean by old sky box. SD or HD? I won't be jumping out my pants for a sky Q box anytime soon but I wouldn't be watching TV in SD either.

 

I run netflix through my Q box and it works perfectly, especially in UHD

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11 minutes ago, Ribble said:

 

I run netflix through my Q box and it works perfectly, especially in UHD

A neighbor had problems getting sky Q a little over a year ago. The 2 year old communal dish needed upgrading or something and he gave up on the end.  I wouldn't pay extra for it just now anyway to be honest.

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jonnothejambo
52 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

What size was your previous telly?

 

An LG 43 inch, Dave.

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jambogaz1968
1 hour ago, IronJambo said:

A neighbor had problems getting sky Q a little over a year ago. The 2 year old communal dish needed upgrading or something and he gave up on the end.  I wouldn't pay extra for it just now anyway to be honest.

Don't think you can get Sky Q through a communal dish

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1 hour ago, IronJambo said:

A neighbor had problems getting sky Q a little over a year ago. The 2 year old communal dish needed upgrading or something and he gave up on the end.  I wouldn't pay extra for it just now anyway to be honest.

 

I've had similar issues with a communal dish in the past, Q communal installs are subbed out and need the permission of the building factor so you can end up in a 3 way battle of mis-communication. It's not actually the dish but the LNB that needs upgrading (little box on the pole that sicks out of the dish).

 

Q is a vast improvement on Sky HD boxes, i've especially found the wifi to be much more stable with effectively 3 hot spots in our flat. The Q box combined with 4k content and a 55" LG UHD TV  makes certain things just stunning, David Attenbourough and remastered old films, godfather made my head hurt the picture was so good I couldn't get my head round how it was even possible.

 

Recent integration of both Netflix and Spotify has been seamless too.

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Jambo100

Don’t go for sky Q unless you have super broadband.Pity the networks are ahead of the phone companies..You will find 4 k at 2160 on Netflix.True 4K is it not in the name

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IronJambo
2 hours ago, Ribble said:

 

I've had similar issues with a communal dish in the past, Q communal installs are subbed out and need the permission of the building factor so you can end up in a 3 way battle of mis-communication. It's not actually the dish but the LNB that needs upgrading (little box on the pole that sicks out of the dish).

 

Q is a vast improvement on Sky HD boxes, i've especially found the wifi to be much more stable with effectively 3 hot spots in our flat. The Q box combined with 4k content and a 55" LG UHD TV  makes certain things just stunning, David Attenbourough and remastered old films, godfather made my head hurt the picture was so good I couldn't get my head round how it was even possible.

 

Recent integration of both Netflix and Spotify has been seamless too.

Yeah, he was told it was a simple modification. And you're correct, he found himself between Sky, the company that own the dish and the factor and nobody was interested in making it happen. 

If and when i ever come to wanting higher resolution I'll just bounce to Virgin if nobody's fixed it out yet as we're pre-wired for it. I don't use Sky for broadband and we're seemlessly covered with powerline adapters for WiFi and ethernet anyway. 

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H2
7 hours ago, jonnothejambo said:

Went for the Sony Bravia 55 inch OLED.

 

Thanks to everyone for their responses.

Great Decision.

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jonnothejambo
25 minutes ago, H2 said:

Great Decision.

 

Heers mate.

 

Technical question. Which HDMI port do you use for Sky Q 2TB box ?

 

I have heard that you need to use either port 2 or 3 for full 4K UHD functionality, but surely all four ports would be capable on this 2018 model. 

 

Hopefully the Sky installer will know the score.

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IronJambo
1 hour ago, jonnothejambo said:

 

Heers mate.

 

Technical question. Which HDMI port do you use for Sky Q 2TB box ?

 

I have heard that you need to use either port 2 or 3 for full 4K UHD functionality, but surely all four ports would be capable on this 2018 model. 

 

Hopefully the Sky installer will know the score.

Best using SCART mate 

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Ray Gin
30 minutes ago, IronJambo said:

Best using SCART mate 

 

:notsure:

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H2
19 hours ago, Ray Gin said:

 

:notsure:

You cannot be serious

 

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H2
20 hours ago, jonnothejambo said:

 

Heers mate.

 

Technical question. Which HDMI port do you use for Sky Q 2TB box ?

 

I have heard that you need to use either port 2 or 3 for full 4K UHD functionality, but surely all four ports would be capable on this 2018 model. 

 

Hopefully the Sky installer will know the score.

All four ports should work just fine

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jonnothejambo
26 minutes ago, H2 said:

All four ports should work just fine

 

👍

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hughesie27
1 hour ago, H2 said:

All four ports should work just fine

Not necessarily true. Many TVs have HDMI ports which are not capably of taking in 4k signals.

They TV guide should have thisinfo injt though. Or a google search of your model.

 

Also in the settings make sure all available ports are set to Full RGB range or equivalent sounding terminology. This allows for HDR to show.

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davemclaren

Reminds me when my parents got their first colour telly in December 1974. Fair impressed the girls. 😎

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H2
2 hours ago, hughesie27 said:

Not necessarily true. Many TVs have HDMI ports which are not capably of taking in 4k signals.

They TV guide should have thisinfo injt though. Or a google search of your model.

 

Also in the settings make sure all available ports are set to Full RGB range or equivalent sounding terminology. This allows for HDR to show.

Since 2016 all Sony 55" TV's 4 x HDMI ports support 4K connected inputs/devices.

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hughesie27
32 minutes ago, H2 said:

Since 2016 all Sony 55" TV's 4 x HDMI ports support 4K connected inputs/devices.

Good stuff. As it should be.

 

My 2018 Samsung needed it's ports changed to support HDR however. Bizarre that isnt standard.

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