Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 30 minutes ago, upgotheheads said: He spent a lot of time injured. H'es a decent player at left midfield but he's too lightweight for left back, he's too easily dispossesed. I just have the feeling that it's the MANU connection that people are impressed by. His pace and skills impress me. His lack of sense and knowledge disappoint me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 His body language is screaming out that he doesn't want to be here. Let him go, no point in him and us wasting what is left of the season imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 No we need left sided players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokyowalnut Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 19 minutes ago, luckydug said: His body language is screaming out that he doesn't want to be here. Let him go, no point in him and us wasting what is left of the season imo. I saw him train yesterday and he was buzzing about the place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 He's our first choice left wing back. No chance he'll leave without a replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 54 minutes ago, luckydug said: His body language is screaming out that he doesn't want to be here. Let him go, no point in him and us wasting what is left of the season imo. Rubbish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Just now, 1971fozzy said: Rubbish Care to expand ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 55 minutes ago, luckydug said: His body language is screaming out that he doesn't want to be here. Let him go, no point in him and us wasting what is left of the season imo. I agree. I think his attitude has been poor this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, luckydug said: Care to expand ? Are you seriously saying he doesn’t try ? Not for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 1 minute ago, 1971fozzy said: Are you seriously saying he doesn’t try ? Not for me He seems to have lost heart (pardon the pun) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, luckydug said: He seems to have lost heart (pardon the pun) I don’t think so but hey it’s all about opinions ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackney Hearts Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 His body language is saying that he's struggling with confidence just at the moment - nothing to do with not caring, or 'wanting to be somewhere else'. If that was the case, Levein wouldn't give him the time of day. He's our best wing back if he can rediscover his form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 So, still with us then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambonian Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Maybe he's just got fed up with being played as a left back. Made too many mistakes playing there which can effect confidence, at least if he's further forward and makes a mistake then it's away from the oppositions danger areas. He, like many others that come here, are good quality players then fall away as the weeks and months go on, seen it so often over the last couple of years or more at Tynie. I personally think he's jus a bit pissed off and when he eventually gets a move he'll become a very decent player again under another clubs' much better attacking/training style. He's better getting away from here for his own sake, and his sanity. Nothing against the guy wish him all the best in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 (edited) 32 minutes ago, jambonian said: Maybe he's just got fed up with being played as a left back. Made too many mistakes playing there which can effect confidence, at least if he's further forward and makes a mistake then it's away from the oppositions danger areas. He, like many others that come here, are good quality players then fall away as the weeks and months go on, seen it so often over the last couple of years or more at Tynie. I personally think he's jus a bit pissed off and when he eventually gets a move he'll become a very decent player again under another clubs' much better attacking/training style. He's better getting away from here for his own sake, and his sanity. Nothing against the guy wish him all the best in the future. Yeah, I heard Godinho got fined 2 weeks wages for appearing at least twice in the opposition box last week. Did you read Levein's comments on the reason for having Mitchell on the bench before Ben? Edited February 1, 2019 by Rudolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelgeJambo Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 He might have a job displacing Mulraney now. Jake has the jersey, and looks like he wants to keep it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambonian Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, Rudolf said: Yeah, I heard Godinho got fined 2 weeks wages for appearing at least twice in the opposition box last week. Oh dear....and we're off! I forgot that anything posted turns into a slagging match on here. The point is that maybe he can't or won't adjust to out style of play, like others before. Of course players will get into the box, it's football but it doesn't happen enough. I look back at the Livy cup tie and we got in their box about 2 times throughout the game that I can recall. Then against Dundee they were all over us as we passed far too often out wide and across the middle without actually creating anything. A Dundee team that has lost their next two games since, a home game against the lowly Motherwell and knocked out the Cup by lower League QoS. Don't think they'd picked up that many points before they played us. We played well against St Johnstone at the weekend but for me that's the worst performance I've seen from St Johnstone at Tynie in a very long time. Be very interesting to see how we fare against Killie tonight. It will be tough but we have to attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfhearts Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Mulraney could not lace Demis boots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambonian Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Lfhearts said: Mulraney could not lace Demis boots. I agree but if Mitchell isn't interested in getting the finger out then, like any player, he'll get dropped. He was terrific last season, don't know what's gone wrong this season, is it what Levein is asking him to do? Can't he adapt or is it just that he won't? No-one knows. To me he looks uninterested. Mulraney was a player that couldn't even get into the first eleven at Inverness and regularly and spent more time on the subs bench than playing, Mitchell's background is of higher calibre so he should be one of our top 3 players at the club. He has the talent and the skill but he's not showing it. Edited February 1, 2019 by jambonian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, jambonian said: I agree but if Mitchell isn't interested in getting the finger out then, like any player, he'll get dropped. He was terrific last season, don't know what's gone wrong this season, is it what Levein is asking him to do? Can't he adapt or is it just that he won't? No-one knows. To me he looks uninterested. Mulraney was a player that couldn't even get into the first eleven at Inverness and regularly and spent more time on the subs bench than playing, Mitchell's background is of higher calibre so he should be one of our top 3 players at the club. He has the talent and the skill but he's not showing it. Certainly based on current form I'd be playing Mulraney in front of him tonight. For whatever reason Demi isn't the player he was last season and, chances are we're going to have to defend tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambonian Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jamhammer said: Certainly based on current form I'd be playing Mulraney in front of him tonight. For whatever reason Demi isn't the player he was last season and, chances are we're going to have to defend tonight. I think so as well. It's going to be a tough game, our record down there isn't that great anyway, even when they were pish so we'll have our work cut out to get anything tonight. Anything is possible though, you never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, jambonian said: I think so as well. It's going to be a tough game, our record down there isn't that great anyway, even when they were pish so we'll have our work cut out to get anything tonight. Anything is possible though, you never know. We've been a bit inconsistent but Naismith is playing and we are always better with him. Vanececk can make a difference up top and I reckon we can do em Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambonian Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Just now, Jamhammer said: We've been a bit inconsistent but Naismith is playing and we are always better with him. Vanececk can make a difference up top and I reckon we can do em Fingers crossed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 42 minutes ago, Lfhearts said: Mulraney could not lace Demis boots. Difference is Mulraney is improving, Mitchell has gone backwards. If Mulraney keeps improving with his pace, he will be a great asset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 2 hours ago, jambonian said: Oh dear....and we're off! I forgot that anything posted turns into a slagging match on here. The point is that maybe he can't or won't adjust to out style of play, like others before. Of course players will get into the box, it's football but it doesn't happen enough. I look back at the Livy cup tie and we got in their box about 2 times throughout the game that I can recall. Then against Dundee they were all over us as we passed far too often out wide and across the middle without actually creating anything. A Dundee team that has lost their next two games since, a home game against the lowly Motherwell and knocked out the Cup by lower League QoS. Don't think they'd picked up that many points before they played us. We played well against St Johnstone at the weekend but for me that's the worst performance I've seen from St Johnstone at Tynie in a very long time. Be very interesting to see how we fare against Killie tonight. It will be tough but we have to attack. Any post that includes unsubstantiated rubbish such as the part of your post I quoted deserves an answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 3 hours ago, jambonian said: Maybe he's just got fed up with being played as a left back. Made too many mistakes playing there which can effect confidence, at least if he's further forward and makes a mistake then it's away from the oppositions danger areas. He, like many others that come here, are good quality players then fall away as the weeks and months go on, seen it so often over the last couple of years or more at Tynie. I personally think he's jus a bit pissed off and when he eventually gets a move he'll become a very decent player again under another clubs' much better attacking/training style. He's better getting away from here for his own sake, and his sanity. Nothing against the guy wish him all the best in the future. I don't get this left back argument. He should be getting forward in any formation. He just hasn't created enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Mitchell is what I would call a luxury player, he has faults and in certain games his faults outweigh the positives in some supporters eyes. Personally, I want all our best players on the pitch and I want to see us taking risks. You play Mitchell, you're taking a risk. With Berra back and hopefully getting his mojo back, he'll get back to managing his area of the pitch like last season. Mitchell will benefit massively from that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnomarooned Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 How do these loan deals work in terms of expectations of the loaning club? If Man U are looking to develop Mitchell as at LB, would there be any stipulation that we should be playing him there. Or do we take a player and then have carte blanche to play then wherever we like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnomarooned Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 4 hours ago, Lfhearts said: Mulraney could not lace Demis boots. It is harder than you think trying to tie laces the 'wrong' way round but I rather suspect he'd manage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 4 hours ago, jambonian said: Oh dear....and we're off! I forgot that anything posted turns into a slagging match on here. The point is that maybe he can't or won't adjust to out style of play, like others before. Of course players will get into the box, it's football but it doesn't happen enough. I look back at the Livy cup tie and we got in their box about 2 times throughout the game that I can recall. Then against Dundee they were all over us as we passed far too often out wide and across the middle without actually creating anything. A Dundee team that has lost their next two games since, a home game against the lowly Motherwell and knocked out the Cup by lower League QoS. Don't think they'd picked up that many points before they played us. We played well against St Johnstone at the weekend but for me that's the worst performance I've seen from St Johnstone at Tynie in a very long time. Be very interesting to see how we fare against Killie tonight. It will be tough but we have to attack. Interesting that you chose not to pick out Mitchells intelligent run, link up with Naismith and then feeding to Lee, which resulted in the goal. I love balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, itsnomarooned said: How do these loan deals work in terms of expectations of the loaning club? If Man U are looking to develop Mitchell as at LB, would there be any stipulation that we should be playing him there. Or do we take a player and then have carte blanche to play then wherever we like? I think developing a player is seeing what they can do in different situations. Not become a 1 trick pony. It will be case by case though I expect, contrary to fan opinion these are people not robots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gershwin Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 14 hours ago, luckydug said: His body language is screaming out that he doesn't want to be here. Let him go, no point in him and us wasting what is left of the season imo. I think it’s a confidence thing. Not that he doesn’t want to be here. He’s not really been the same since that **** up at Ibrox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feedthefox Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 I’d be happy to see him leave but would be amazed if he went to Prem. Had half a decent season when he first arrived got injured and has never been the same player since we now keep playing him waiting for the player who first arrived to reappear only he doesn’t so let’s move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 minute ago, feedthefox said: I’d be happy to see him leave but would be amazed if he went to Prem. Had half a decent season when he first arrived got injured and has never been the same player since we now keep playing him waiting for the player who first arrived to reappear only he doesn’t so let’s move on. He's staying for the rest of the season. Hopefully he kicks on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feedthefox Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: He's staying for the rest of the season. Hopefully he kicks on. Well that’s that then fingers crossed he does.kick on. Even Levein seems to have finally lost a bit of trust in him maybe he will have one stormer and it will all click back into shape for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambonian Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 18 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: Interesting that you chose not to pick out Mitchells intelligent run, link up with Naismith and then feeding to Lee, which resulted in the goal. I love balance. I didn't need to. We all know his capabilities but compared to last season, he's done it in dribs n drabs. That's the whole point of the topic here isn't it? Or am i wrong? The majority know what he's capable of, both you, me and others but he hasn't done enough this season. You can't even disagree with that. Interesting that you chose to pick out that excellent move and mention nothing of his poor performances throughout the season. See...I love balance too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambonian Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 16 minutes ago, feedthefox said: Well that’s that then fingers crossed he does.kick on. Even Levein seems to have finally lost a bit of trust in him maybe he will have one stormer and it will all click back into shape for him. Yes, that would be good. Hopefully if he plays from the start tonight, he has a wonder game and we manage to pick up the three points. Got the skill and talent, needs to show it more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tynecastle Valhalla Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 I’d give him a few starts at left wing and see how he does. Competition with Mulraney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 hour ago, jambonian said: I didn't need to. We all know his capabilities but compared to last season, he's done it in dribs n drabs. That's the whole point of the topic here isn't it? Or am i wrong? The majority know what he's capable of, both you, me and others but he hasn't done enough this season. You can't even disagree with that. Interesting that you chose to pick out that excellent move and mention nothing of his poor performances throughout the season. See...I love balance too. You haven't looked hard enough then and it was embarrassingly easy to find my balanced view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 I'm not really getting the Mulraney chat here. He had a good second half against St Johnstone but up until then, he's done absolutely nothing to suggest (to me anyway) that he's going to be a regular starter. His end product needs to improve dramatically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 46 minutes ago, iainmac said: I'm not really getting the Mulraney chat here. He had a good second half against St Johnstone but up until then, he's done absolutely nothing to suggest (to me anyway) that he's going to be a regular starter. His end product needs to improve dramatically. He was decent in the first half too to be fair to him Iain. Unlucky with the shot that the keeper deflected onto the post and the cross for Godinho's header was put into a dangerous area. Agree that he has does nothing else though (other than a decent game when we beat Celtic in August) but hopefully he's turned the corner. Cue him being mince tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spirt of 98 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 (edited) Demi has the skills but he’s another big time Charlie too busy posting pictures on Instagram with his latest designer outfit on whilst pouting and posing. Too many of these wee splashes around just now. Levein will sort him out though or he will leave. Him and Vanecek could may be start up a band. Edited February 1, 2019 by spirt of 98 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Rudolf said: He was decent in the first half too to be fair to him Iain. Unlucky with the shot that the keeper deflected onto the post and the cross for Godinho's header was put into a dangerous area. Agree that he has does nothing else though (other than a decent game when we beat Celtic in August) but hopefully he's turned the corner. Cue him being mince tonight It is an important moment for him tonight. Starting is different to coming on as a sub, which he normally is , and this is away from home. People will be looking to see how well he starts, and if he does, can he keep himself in the game and not drop off the pace? It’s about his hunger tonight and how much he really wants to possess the jersey. Edited February 1, 2019 by Debut 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfhearts Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Agreed Nora as said on another BBC thread kivkbackers don't understand football mulraney cannot lace demis boots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDSK Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Posted on Instagram a picture of him in a Manchester United coat with the caption “Home sweet home”. Is he injured? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 He wouldn't be missed tbh. He was fantastic in his first spell, this time round he has been poor. He looks every bit like a player who thought he would swan into the first team at United and become a superstar but forgot he has to work for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, RDSK said: Posted on Instagram a picture of him in a Manchester United coat with the caption “Home sweet home”. Is he injured? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansel Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 15 minutes ago, RDSK said: Posted on Instagram a picture of him in a Manchester United coat with the caption “Home sweet home”. Is he injured? Looked pretty glum in the pic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Superunknown said: Looked pretty glum in the pic Clearly isn’t enjoying his time with us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZEUS Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, fabienleclerq said: He wouldn't be missed tbh. He was fantastic in his first spell, this time round he has been poor. He looks every bit like a player who thought he would swan into the first team at United and become a superstar but forgot he has to work for it. That’s quite an assumption. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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