Jamboelite Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: If Cardiff are refusing to pay then UEFA step in. What is 'Keyman insurance' ? Keyman insurance is where you cover someone who is key to your business in the event they die or in some cases if they cant work. In this case keyman insurance is another way of covering a life insurance plan but usually to a higher value asset/person. Its the policy designed to allow the business to find a replacement. Edited March 26, 2019 by Jamboelite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Just now, Jamboelite said: Keyman insurance is where you cover someone who is key to your business in the event they die or in some cases if they cant work. In this case keyman insurance is another way of covering a life insurance plan but usually to a higher value asset/person. Cheers (and pretty obvious, now i think about it!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 2 hours ago, davemclaren said: You would hope clubs take out some sorr of Keyman insurance on their major assets. This is the part that baffles me Dave, surely with a commodity as expensive as £15M, you bloody well put the insurance in place to cover events like this, I can't get my head around that one. Cardiff have dined out on this poor guys death now since it happened, and the refusal to pay up is just about as scummy as it gets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 On 25/03/2019 at 09:24, Ibrahim Tall said: Vlad even tried to weasel out of the Beslija fee. Weaseling out of things is important to learn; it's what separates us from the animals. Except the weasel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 On 26/03/2019 at 09:53, Jamboelite said: Keyman insurance is where you cover someone who is key to your business in the event they die or in some cases if they cant work. In this case keyman insurance is another way of covering a life insurance plan but usually to a higher value asset/person. Its the policy designed to allow the business to find a replacement. Some companies take similar insurance, not necessary for a key role, but to cover groups of people. Imagine a work syndicate win £100 million in the Euromillians, and they all walk out. There would be a cost to the company, to replace them, and fill the roles until they are replaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 (edited) His Dad has passed away. Heart attack Edited April 26, 2019 by Maroon Sailor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 9 minutes ago, Maroon Sailor said: His Dad has passed away. Heart attack Jesus, how tragic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Future's Maroon Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Horrible time for the family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam1998 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 His friend killed a few days later https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/emiliano-salas-friend-former-team-16187096 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-48694561 Strange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thommo414 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, Lovecraft said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-48694561 Strange I'm guessing that would be the agent that arranged the flight? Given all the circumstances with the flight licence, plane etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, Lovecraft said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-48694561 Strange 64 year old Not obvious who Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdav Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 8 minutes ago, Lovecraft said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-48694561 Strange Do you think that might be a certain unscrupulous scottish agent who was involved in the deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Just now, Thommo414 said: I'm guessing that would be the agent that arranged the flight? Given all the circumstances with the flight licence, plane etc Willie McKay isn't 64. His son was an agent. Another agent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 minute ago, bigdav said: Do you think that might be a certain unscrupulous scottish agent who was involved in the deal? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_McKay Says person arrested is 64 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Thommo414 said: I'm guessing that would be the agent that arranged the flight? Given all the circumstances with the flight licence, plane etc He is 60 and lives in Monaco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 (edited) Something to do with the plane or the pilot you would think. But a conundrum. Edited June 19, 2019 by Mikey1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenaciousdandy Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, bigdav said: Do you think that might be a certain unscrupulous scottish agent who was involved in the deal? apparently the 64 year old is from yorkshire according to sky sports news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Just now, Mikey1874 said: Something to do with the plane or the pilot you would think. Yeah, wonder if this person arrested personally knew the pilot/arranged the flight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 minute ago, kila said: Yeah, wonder if this person arrested personally knew the pilot/arranged the flight And knew both weren't legal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenaciousdandy Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Barack said: Where does MacKay live...? Pass, possibly Edinburgh but purely a guess. plus he's only 55 Edited June 19, 2019 by Dandyman79 added info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 36 minutes ago, Dandyman79 said: Pass, possibly Edinburgh but purely a guess. plus he's only 55 Monaco, is 60. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 (edited) . Edited June 19, 2019 by kila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thommo414 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 hour ago, soonbe110 said: He is 60 and lives in Monaco. Shows what I know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTBCAL Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Plane engineer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 4 hours ago, Lovecraft said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-48694561 Strange The police have urged people not to speculate as to the persons identity. By all means, crack on anyway Kickback...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, Peebo said: The police have urged people not to speculate as to the persons identity. By all means, crack on anyway Kickback...? TBF it never said that in the article earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Colinel Mustard in the Kitchen with the Lead Piping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: Colinel Mustard in the Kitchen with the Lead Piping. Who's Colinel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonsgotop Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Daily Mail reporting the arrested person was pilot David Henderson who should have been flying the plane but had arranged for someone else (Ibbotson) to fly instead. Ibbotson of course was not qualified to fly the plane on the ill fated flight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 49 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Who's Colinel? ri Alban picking me up on typos. **** me there is no coming back from this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 minute ago, i8hibsh said: ri Alban picking me up on typos. **** me there is no coming back from this. Just pulling yer leg. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid Calder Jambo Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 9 hours ago, Peebo said: The police have urged people not to speculate as to the persons identity. By all means, crack on anyway Kickback...? Being as I don't see it as being illegal to speculate i will have a crack. It was the person who gave the pilot the flight in knowledge that he was not night rated for flight that would take place in the hours of darkness. Will the prosecution bring any of the deacesed back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peebo Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, Mid Calder Jambo said: Being as I don't see it as being illegal to speculate i will have a crack. No one has suggested it’s illegal. The police have asked people don’t do it, as it may hinder the investigation. If someone feels the need to do so anyway, they probably won’t end up in jail but may be a bit of a *****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid Calder Jambo Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Peebo said: No one has suggested it’s illegal. The police have asked people don’t do it, as it may hinder the investigation. If someone feels the need to do so anyway, they probably won’t end up in jail but may be a bit of a *****. Doesn't make me feel a bit of a ***** at all. This smacks very much that the Police are looking for someone to blame, as they alwats do Whilst that may give the Police some comfort I am sure it won't comfort the families of the bereaved and as I said earlier it won't won;t bring either of them back. Will a manslaughter charge be a deterrent in the future, in my opinion, probably not. Is this now a football matter, cerrtainly not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It should have been ten Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) . Edited June 20, 2019 by It should have been ten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 6 hours ago, i8hibsh said: Colinel Mustard in the Kitchen with the Lead Piping. Lead piping on a plane in this day and age?? Wow ... hope they throw the book at this Mustard boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 6 hours ago, Mid Calder Jambo said: Being as I don't see it as being illegal to speculate i will have a crack. It was the person who gave the pilot the flight in knowledge that he was not night rated for flight that would take place in the hours of darkness. Will the prosecution bring any of the deacesed back? But it might help improve the general practice. Lots of comments have been made about dodgy practice in these flights. Which is common thing. So there is a bigger picture. And the relatives of dead will be pleased someone is being made accountable if this does go further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 On 20/06/2019 at 07:34, maroonsgotop said: Daily Mail reporting the arrested person was pilot David Henderson who should have been flying the plane but had arranged for someone else (Ibbotson) to fly instead. Ibbotson of course was not qualified to fly the plane on the ill fated flight. More info though no detail on the guy arrested. Has his picture. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9342313/emiliano-sala-crash-pilot-goes-into-hiding/amp/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Not directly related to Sala, but some content on it, and it seems Willie McKay could be in bother for other reasons. He also does not sound at all nice. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/06/25/exclusive-willie-mckay-facing-two-years-prison-charged-fraud/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, Paolo said: Not directly related to Sala, but some content on it, and it seems Willie McKay could be in bother for other reasons. He also does not sound at all nice. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/06/25/exclusive-willie-mckay-facing-two-years-prison-charged-fraud/ Good, prick thinks he's the British Mino Raiola. Just a bawbag with a massive ego. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMJ_1874 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) On 20/06/2019 at 07:19, ri Alban said: Who's Colinel? Big brother to fockinel Edited June 25, 2019 by Saughton Jambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 (edited) On 20/06/2019 at 02:19, ri Alban said: Who's Colinel? . Edited June 26, 2019 by Bridge of Djoum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 The guy arrested will be the owner of the plane who was meant to fly it but sub-contracted the job to someone without the requisite qualifications and licences. This sad story is enough to make me decide I would never take a flight in a small plane - it is clear that the whole area of non-civil aviation is lacking in control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Possibly not the weather that killed them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 26 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Possibly not the weather that killed them. So the likelihood hood if they both feel unconscious or the pilot may have, hopefully both. Whoever owned the plane is going to get sued and fined, all sorts, for negligence. Tragic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Cruyff Turn said: So the likelihood hood if they both feel unconscious or the pilot may have, hopefully both. Whoever owned the plane is going to get sued and fined, all sorts, for negligence. Tragic. I wonder where the liability lies, they always make a big deal of the pilot doing manual inspections and what have you, would it maybe be up to him to notice a fault and report it? Not accusing anyone by the way, just asking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Just now, Smithee said: I wonder where the liability lies, they always make a big deal of the pilot doing manual inspections and what have you, would it maybe be up to him to notice a fault and report it? Not accusing anyone by the way, just asking. No idea mate. I thought it might be like owning a car, you have to MOT it every so often and get the piece of paper to prove it’s in good nick. Apparently the ownership is registered in the US because their regs on planes are less stringent. It might be very difficult to prove who owns the plane. Someone will be liable. I’m sure the investigators will prove who is and they’ll be probably be facing Gross Negligence Manslaughter charges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbert. Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Smithee said: I wonder where the liability lies, they always make a big deal of the pilot doing manual inspections and what have you, would it maybe be up to him to notice a fault and report it? Not accusing anyone by the way, just asking. I would think the owners or last people to carry out maintenance.When I've watched air crash investigation it's always the maintenance guys that get questioned/blamed. A pilot only does a walk around to check nothing is hanging off , If there wasn't any warning lights then he would never know that there was a problem with the engine and it was leaking carbon monoxide into a cockpit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Jesus... its a horrible blessing but I hope it brings both families some sort of comfort. Knowing they didn't suffer or have that horrible panic hopefully helps. The owner should get nailed to the ****ing floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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