Captain Sausage Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 **** being a centre back when the Hearts lineup includes Uche and Vanecek, with Naismith and Clare behind them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmiyaHearts Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 I thought he had a decent debut, considering he hasn't played for a while. Some nice lay offs, played with his back to goal a lot because of the lack of midfield creativity. The few times he got the ball facing the opposition, he looked like he could cause problems when match fit. He also set up the winning goal and with his ability to give a good first touch pass, I can see plenty more assists coming up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Boy loves a flick round the corner, think he could be the making of Clare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cut The Crap Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 In the first half, our tactic seemed to be to shell the ball towards him. Within 20 minutes it became obvious to everyone watching that isn't his strong suit. I'm not quite sure why we adopted that approach. Much better second half with the ball on deck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosavi Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Very decent debut and his fitness will come the more games he gets it..... how big are his shorts by the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 CL seems to like big strikers. Not sure why as all our greatest goal scorers were modest in height, Willie Bauld, Donald Ford, John Robertson. To name but a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheetah Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Shite game to judge anyone by, he showed enough little glimpses of what he might be able to do when he is match fit, got a better handle on the Scottish game and gets a better fitting strip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig_ Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 39 minutes ago, Captain Sausage said: **** being a centre back when the Hearts lineup includes Uche and Vanecek, with Naismith and Clare behind them. Indeed? Might we potentially have four decent strikers/forwards now? Can't remember us having more than one since the days of Bednar and Janny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busby8 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 29 minutes ago, Prof said: CL seems to like big strikers. Not sure why as all our greatest goal scorers were modest in height, Willie Bauld, Donald Ford, John Robertson. To name but a few. If we could get to the bye line more often and deliver decent crosses into the box we will get more out of him. Think he did ok yesterday considering he wasn't up to full fitness and had to play with his back to goal most of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Prof said: CL seems to like big strikers. Not sure why as all our greatest goal scorers were modest in height, Willie Bauld, Donald Ford, John Robertson. To name but a few. Probably because in the modern game in Scotland, financially we can not afford to buy actual top class players. We can’t compete with the wages on offer for these guys down south. If players with the class of Robbo or Bauld were young 18 year old kids coming through today and scoring those sort of goals they scored, they’d be sold for a few million quid, influenced by selfish agents and go chasing bigger wages. Like Paterson, Walker, and Nicholson all did. Even Berra did it first chance he got to Wolves. That’s what will happen with any of the current young crop if they burst through into the team, cement a place and score goals. So as we can only pay a player about £3k or £4K a week, it limits our options in terms of who we can bring in. The best value for money in this division comes from big, physically competitive players. Vanacek is unlikely to go on to a higher level, he is a player Hearts will be looking to get a good 3 years out of. This is probably going to be the pinnacle of his career - you can see already he would not have the pace to play in England IMO. Having big men up front keeping defenders occupied can then allow the smaller less physical young players we have like Cochrane, McDonald, Morrison, Clare, Keena a bit of room to breathe in games. They are the potential future Robbos and Baulds, we’re never going to be able to buy a player like that at age 27. Edited January 21, 2019 by A_A wehatethehibs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 4 hours ago, Dayman said: When vanacek missed a header the boy in front of me came out with a brilliant shout of “Come on lad you’re no in the Czech Republic now you’re in the real place”. Interesting. Wish he’d been been around in 1938, if he’d been able to convince Hitler of this, then maybe a lot of bloodshed could have been avoided. What an absolute cretin. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Prof said: CL seems to like big strikers. Not sure why as all our greatest goal scorers were modest in height, Willie Bauld, Donald Ford, John Robertson. To name but a few. Robertson had Bone and Clarke to feed off and create for. Naismith now has Uche and Vanecek. Skacel benefitted from Bednar and Janny and later on Kyle. Mark Devries gave space to Kirk, Wales and Wyness. Edited January 21, 2019 by Glib and Shameless Crier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Craig_ said: Indeed? Might we potentially have four decent strikers/forwards now? Can't remember us having more than one since the days of Bednar and Janny! Closest would be Kyle, Skacel and Suso/Temps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spirt of 98 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Prof said: CL seems to like big strikers. Not sure why as all our greatest goal scorers were modest in height, Willie Bauld, Donald Ford, John Robertson. To name but a few. These days most defences are made up with 6f plus guys who would not be out of place in a rugby shirt. The strikers need to be able to handle the physical game. Unless their as skilled as Messi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4marsbars Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Prof said: CL seems to like big strikers. Not sure why as all our greatest goal scorers were modest in height, Willie Bauld, Donald Ford, John Robertson. To name but a few. Imagine Donald Ford and Stephen Naismith in the same team. The problem Ford had was that his team-mates were not clever enough to get on the end of his flicks and back-heels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducatiboy Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 22 hours ago, spirt of 98 said: The big man struggled with the physical side of today’s game. Libby players constantly pulled his shirt, held his arms and bathed him. He was offered no protection from Gollum. Big man did well with holding up play and knock ins. Nice touch for the assist. Much more to come! Agreed, I think he will cope just fine once he realises how physical this league is. I was really impressed with his attitude to some of the challenges against him, shrugged them off without fuss, I love to see that, early days but I enjoyed what I seen from a lad who's not played much recently. Fingers crossed we have found a good one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott herbertson Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 4 hours ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: Probably because in the modern game in Scotland, financially we can not afford to buy actual top class players. We can’t compete with the wages on offer for these guys down south. If players with the class of Robbo or Bauld were young 18 year old kids coming through today and scoring those sort of goals they scored, they’d be sold for a few million quid, influenced by selfish agents and go chasing bigger wages. Like Paterson, Walker, and Nicholson all did. Even Berra did it first chance he got to Wolves. That’s what will happen with any of the current young crop if they burst through into the team, cement a place and score goals. So as we can only pay a player about £3k or £4K a week, it limits our options in terms of who we can bring in. The best value for money in this division comes from big, physically competitive players. Vanacek is unlikely to go on to a higher level, he is a player Hearts will be looking to get a good 3 years out of. This is probably going to be the pinnacle of his career - you can see already he would not have the pace to play in England IMO. Having big men up front keeping defenders occupied can then allow the smaller less physical young players we have like Cochrane, McDonald, Morrison, Clare, Keena a bit of room to breathe in games. They are the potential future Robbos and Baulds, we’re never going to be able to buy a player like that at age 27. I agree with what you are saying except I think Vanacek is ambitious - we have only an 18 month contract and I am sure he is wanting to get exposure in Britain. If he is any good we may have to settle for a good year (all the more reson to go for a trophy this year) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, scott herbertson said: I agree with what you are saying except I think Vanacek is ambitious - we have only an 18 month contract and I am sure he is wanting to get exposure in Britain. If he is any good we may have to settle for a good year (all the more reson to go for a trophy this year) I think we have the option to add a year on his contract if we want to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott herbertson Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Just now, BigAlim said: I think we have the option to add a year on his contract if we want to Good stuff - wasn't aware of that, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 23 minutes ago, scott herbertson said: I agree with what you are saying except I think Vanacek is ambitious - we have only an 18 month contract and I am sure he is wanting to get exposure in Britain. If he is any good we may have to settle for a good year (all the more reson to go for a trophy this year) I don’t know, the guy is 27, coming into his peak years I expect there’s a very good chance Hearts will be the biggest club he will ever play for. He’s been in Czech for his whole career, this is his chance to achieve something and win some silverware, play in front of some big crowds. Teplice avg. 4000 crowds so Hearts is a massive step up from that. He would have to be absolutely unbelievable for us if he’s going to get a big move somewhere bigger than Hearts when he hits the end of his time here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott herbertson Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Just now, A_A wehatethehibs said: I don’t know, the guy is 27, coming into his peak years I expect there’s a very good chance Hearts will be the biggest club he will ever play for. He’s been in Czech for his whole career, this is his chance to achieve something and win some silverware, play in front of some big crowds. Teplice avg. 4000 crowds so Hearts is a massive step up from that. He would have to be absolutely unbelievable for us if he’s going to get a big move somewhere bigger than Hearts when he hits the end of his time here. Let's hope he does get that big move then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 22 hours ago, BarneyBattles said: The arse behind me shouted at him to 'go back to Czechoslovakia ' after 22 minutes.Dick. Absolutely incredible. Why do we have so many clowns in our support Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Bishop Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Injured or hooked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Hooked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Bishop Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Just now, Cruyff Turn said: Hooked Wasnt sure, thought he was in danger of a second yellow. Needs to toughen up, looks like a rabbit caught in headlights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolkeith Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Assuming it was because he was on s yellow and Beaton might have sent him off the way things were going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fox Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Played awful. Need uche back asap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexton Hardcastle Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 People calling him a fraud after barely two games are just beyond parody. It’s so typical of our current crop of shite fans. The same people who no doubt wanked over him and proclaimed him to be the next big thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Waiting for the inevitable “out for the rest of the season with mystery injury” quote from Levein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Not quite saying we have signed another Cole Stockton but not too impressed tonight. Did well in the cup so hopefully he will improve as he adjusts to the game here. Those shorts must be weighing him down though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Cockade Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 hooked no sign of the physio checking him over he wasn't great and gave the ball away for the goal but to be fair he was just getting high balls punted at him from 50 yards away and was marked by a 6' 5" centre half never once when he's played has somebody got to the byeline and crossed it back for him to attack early days but got to say he doesn't look a world beater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorgieRules22 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Maybe going to Bangkok for a jolly prior to joining us wasn’t a great idea eh. Not sure why the guy looked so short of match fitness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haj Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Absolute horse**** from Levein, in my own opinion. Clare gets how many chances to prove himself? Did Vanecek really look like he was going to get sent off? Take off our 6ft4 striker half an hour in so we can punt long balls at Maclean and Keena all night. Sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambo Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Despite his physique, doesn't seem to know how to battle for high balls. Two games in and lost virtually every battle in air. Doesn't look particularly mobile either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Ramsay Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Another inspired signing from Craig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Seemed a bit odd, we only started putting crosses in second half which is apparently his game, most of them were shite granted but 2 or 3 of them were begging to be knocked in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearts00 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 So disappointed to already have the sinking feeling. You know the one we get with 75% of our signings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBones Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Seemed to have his leg strapped up at full time. Another injury? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartofmidlothian Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 He got a pat on the back from Levein, so don't think he was pissed off with him or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneneilberry Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Looks painfully slow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 The knives are sharpening already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunphy Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Folk turning on him after 120 minutes of football? Shock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) Would like to see what he can do in the box (normally a strikers main job), but that's not the way we deploy strikers. Edited January 23, 2019 by Gambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gershwin Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 minute ago, hearts00 said: So disappointed to already have the sinking feeling. You know the one we get with 75% of our signings. At least it’s only a 1.5 year deal. I actually like his link up play but I’m quite shocked how poor he is in the air. Looks like he can’t get off the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambos1983 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Thought he was just hooked before he was sent off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrymac Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Oneneilberry said: Looks painfully slow Shouldn't be out of place then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paulo Sergio Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Think he's been alright. He has Morrison supplying him ffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famous 1874 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 6’4 and doesn’t jump man ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo100 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Killie beat sevco.Clarke is the man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Not writing the guy off at all but first impressions are not good at all. Thought Keena was superb first half Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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