PeterintheRain Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Ireland did just deserve to win that. Scotland's mistakes were part of that. TMO not seeing or not reporting Peter O'Mahony fouling Hogg leading to his injury could have been the key turning point. Clear foul play too. https://www.ultimaterugby.com/news/watch%3A-peter-o'mahony's-hit-that-ended-stuart-hogg's-game/613741 In which case they clearly didn't deserve to win, did they? Ireland are up their own arses more than wales and a bigger gang of cheats than england, but they get away with it match after match. If we had a media of our own then they'd have been highlighting the fraudulent match officials for the past 40 years and we'd benefit from a bit more even-handedness. But we have scum yoons who hate us and want to destroy every facet of an independent Scottish nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 1 minute ago, PeterintheRain said: In which case they clearly didn't deserve to win, did they? Ireland are up their own arses more than wales and a bigger gang of cheats than england, but they get away with it match after match. If we had a media of our own then they'd have been highlighting the fraudulent match officials for the past 40 years and we'd benefit from a bit more even-handedness. But we have scum yoons who hate us and want to destroy every facet of an independent Scottish nation. Said elsewhere You're fantasy world is impressive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GYL Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 23 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Said elsewhere You're fantasy world is impressive He has a point though....O'Mahony should have been a yellow and then Ireland don't go on to score the try they did shortly after. Referee/TMO should be heavily criticized for that alone never mind the ref's general performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboelite Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 1 hour ago, PeterintheRain said: In which case they clearly didn't deserve to win, did they? Ireland are up their own arses more than wales and a bigger gang of cheats than england, but they get away with it match after match. If we had a media of our own then they'd have been highlighting the fraudulent match officials for the past 40 years and we'd benefit from a bit more even-handedness. But we have scum yoons who hate us and want to destroy every facet of an independent Scottish nation. You’re on fire today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bookkeeper Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 On 02/02/2019 at 16:22, The Bookkeeper said: 1983 since we won there. I don't think the Ireland result is a good one for Scotland and expect us to feel a backlash next Saturday. Can see today being Scotland's only win though I do think we have a chance of breaking our duck in Paris (not won there since 1999). As I anticipated Ireland too strong on the day. They showed more desperation without being great themselves after their defeat last weekend. What today did show us is that if we play our A game and cut out the sloppy and needless mistakes we can beat this team in the World Cup but we have to turn up and play error free rugby and score more points when given the opportunity. I can see the Italy win being our only one of the tournament though I do think we have the opportunity to run the French close in Paris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Egg chasers embarrassment never changed in 30 years look forward to next seasons new dawn (yawn) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boof Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 I thought when the ref went to the TMO for the Scottish 'try' he asked about a possible knock on not a forward pass. It was the TMO's decision to take the action all the way back to the forward pass. The ref didn't ask for that so couldn't be shown it is my understanding of how the rule operates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaths17 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 3 hours ago, Taffin said: We've gone backwards under Townsend imo. this in spades, cotter got all the basics instilled and rooted out the mistakes, townsends brought them all back 2 minutes ago, Boof said: I thought when the ref went to the TMO for the Scottish 'try' he asked about a possible knock on not a forward pass. It was the TMO's decision to take the action all the way back to the forward pass. The ref didn't ask for that so couldn't be shown it is my understanding of how the rule operates. wtf was that all about, ref asked to check if it was a knock on by scotland or if it came of the irish player and not what the TMO checked. it was touched by the irish player, whether the ball was downed in field is debateable but still a farce of a call. our own worst enemy as usual though, ****in mistakes killed us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Scotland just seem to go through the same cycle year after year - little flashes of promise, followed by inevitable regression and all the time remaining on much the same keel that we've been on for 20 years. We'll play a part at the World Cup but we won't make a huge impact, sadly. We don't have the same drive to win games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 2 hours ago, The Bookkeeper said: As I anticipated Ireland too strong on the day. They showed more desperation without being great themselves after their defeat last weekend. What today did show us is that if we play our A game and cut out the sloppy and needless mistakes we can beat this team in the World Cup but we have to turn up and play error free rugby and score more points when given the opportunity. The above assumes that Ireland will play as poorly as they did today. What if they bring their A game as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 22 minutes ago, Ulysses said: The above assumes that Ireland will play as poorly as they did today. What if they bring their A game as well? I don't think there is much between the sides if they both play their A game. Scotland should put on a better show than that at Murrayfield though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 13 minutes ago, Maroon Sailor said: I don't think there is much between the sides if they both play their A game. I think there is. Ireland are off form though. Definitely something missing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crete Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 80 minutes of boredom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bookkeeper Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 58 minutes ago, Ulysses said: The above assumes that Ireland will play as poorly as they did today. What if they bring their A game as well? Definitely some validity to that. I think Ireland will play a very similar game though regardless of personnel and I'm not sure how expansive they can be. Scotland simply must cut out the errors against the elite opposition, we've got closer but we need to play near flawlessly to beat the big guns. We can certainly play better than we did today and were in the game for the vast majority of the match. I'm realistic about our chances, see my post after last week predicting it would be the only win but I'm also hopeful we might peak at the right time in the Autumn whilst perhaps the likes of the Irish are slightly past their best as a team. We shall see! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossi_1983 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Why is nothing being made of the fact the pass for Ireland’s 3rd try went about 5 yards forward??? When Carberry drew the men, he was about 5 metres inside the 22. The ball was caught by Earls just in front of the line which comes out from the 5 metre line, so 10 metres from the try line Scotland did themselves no favours with some basic errors and stupid penalties, but the no call for the hit on Hogg followed by the forward pass for the 1st try, and then ignoring the blatant forward pass for the 3rd just because there was no camera in line with it were shocking errors by the officials that cost Scotland the game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 44 minutes ago, The Bookkeeper said: ....whilst perhaps the likes of the Irish are slightly past their best as a team... That could well be the case. There's definitely something not quite right. Sounds mad to say that just after an away win, but there it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 13 hours ago, Ulysses said: I think there is. Ireland are off form though. Definitely something missing. Missing that hunger to be seen as one of best in the world. Downward path from the win over New Zealand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 16 hours ago, Barack said: No bonus point for Wales. Hopefully Gatland's ego, means Wales lose out on the 6 Nation's by that solitary lost point. Can't wait until he's gone. Arrogant twat. Can't stand him. Seems to have a real bee in his bonnet about Scottish Rugby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Felt we left loads of points out there. Too many basic errors. Across Edunburgh, Glasgow and the national team we have a great rolling maul but the line out continues to be awful. Also it is a downside of being expansive and the number of delayed and flat passes but we also give away too many forward ones. Yesterday, Ireland pretty much took every opportunity that came there way. That said, unless Ireland find their fire again, there is stuff for us to work on ahead of meeting them again in Japan* Or Stockdale gets injured. *Both Scotland and Ireland need to be very wary of Japan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 2 hours ago, jonnothejambo said: Looks like England will be unstoppable if the result against France is anything to go by. They are, unfortunately the best team in the Northern Hemisphere by a fair margin. Much as I would love my Wales to do em I just can't see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bookkeeper Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 23 hours ago, Barack said: Oddly enough; I still think we'll beat France over in Paris. If Wales don't beat England, and assuming France don't...then the Grand Slam is their baby. Two games against us & Italy. At Twickenham...? Home bankers. By bonus points. Again though, I've a sneaky feeling for the French tomorrow. Guid prediction for today Not sure if the French getting emptied like that was good news or bad news for Scotland. Can see them make plenty changes and with backs against the wall they might be far more dangerous than they would have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 England showing some momentum, just ahead of the World Cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 England looked really good yesterday. just an aside though - that try from Farrell late on was a blatant knock on. It’s amazing the number of dodgy TMO decisions England get when they play at Twickenham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 England always seem to peak right before a World Cup, I fancy them for the Grand Slam now as the only side I can see stopping them would be Wales, and that's a big ask. Only New Zealand are better than England right now in World rugby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted February 12, 2019 Author Share Posted February 12, 2019 12 hours ago, The Old Tolbooth said: England always seem to peak right before a World Cup, I fancy them for the Grand Slam now as the only side I can see stopping them would be Wales, and that's a big ask. Only New Zealand are better than England right now in World rugby. They're good, but they're not that good. Scotland will do them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 (edited) as suspected 're why TMO not used for Hogg foul play incident Edited February 12, 2019 by Mikey1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 4 hours ago, ri Alban said: They're good, but they're not that good. Scotland will do them. I'd like to believe that, but we really won't do them at Twickenham, we haven't won there since the early 80's when we had a very good team, the self belief when we go away from home is non existent, and we've went backwards under Toony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted February 12, 2019 Author Share Posted February 12, 2019 5 hours ago, The Old Tolbooth said: I'd like to believe that, but we really won't do them at Twickenham, we haven't won there since the early 80's when we had a very good team, the self belief when we go away from home is non existent, and we've went backwards under Toony. I can dream. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Murray Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Stuart Hogg out for the rest of the tournament Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted February 13, 2019 Author Share Posted February 13, 2019 8 hours ago, Adam Murray said: Stuart Hogg out for the rest of the tournament He's quite brittle the boy. Made of chocolate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 9 hours ago, Adam Murray said: Stuart Hogg out for the rest of the tournament 1 hour ago, ri Alban said: He's quite brittle the boy. Made of chocolate. He's recovered pretty well from injuries previously quicker than expected. Rugby is pretty brutal these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 The TMO system works really well in rugby and the nature and dynamics of the game are well suited to the reviewing process. By and large it works. But in a game where very little is missed, it's quite remarkable how often Scotland has fallen victim to rare lapses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 15 minutes ago, Victorian said: The TMO system works really well in rugby and the nature and dynamics of the game are well suited to the reviewing process. By and large it works. But in a game where very little is missed, it's quite remarkable how often Scotland has fallen victim to rare lapses. Referees were specifically asked just before the 6 Nations not to use the TMO unless absolutely necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Referees were specifically asked just before the 6 Nations not to use the TMO unless absolutely necessary. Interesting decision. The referee can't see everything of course. Setting some kind of embargo on the use of it can really only lead to an inherent, subjective flaw in the system. The TMO is much better placed to review things not immediately picked up by the referee and to proactively alert the referee to either discuss over the mic or review on screen. It was working very well for the most part. Limiting referees' use of it will lead to inconsistency and subjective errors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Mikey1874 said: Referees were specifically asked just before the 6 Nations not to use the TMO unless absolutely necessary. I guess in that instance it was absolutely necessary as foul play occurred and the ref made the wrong decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 11 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: Referees were specifically asked just before the 6 Nations not to use the TMO unless absolutely necessary. Which leaves the massive problem of referees making subjective calls on necessity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted February 14, 2019 Author Share Posted February 14, 2019 13 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: He's recovered pretty well from injuries previously quicker than expected. Rugby is pretty brutal these days. I hope so, because he's world class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted February 14, 2019 Author Share Posted February 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Which leaves the massive problem of referees making subjective calls on necessity. Which means the diddie teams get nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Gregor Townsend has complained about the Hogg incident and says should have been looked at from the try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Looking at tickets for the England Scotland game, prices from 400 to 800 pounds. Whats that all about, seem to charge what they want, mind you if folk pay the prices they will still charge this . For the record , i have no interest in going, could buy 2 top of the range golf clubs for that money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 I think the guys that are coming in for Scotland could do well. Hopefully the overall system and attacking flair will still show. Could be a good platform for the rest of the year. Or we're heading for disappointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted February 23, 2019 Author Share Posted February 23, 2019 Scotland are gonnae get humped here. Get Toonie Tae feck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 One of the all time great tries by Wales. The patience and build up play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Wales deserve to win this. Keep it up now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Yasssssss! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 To be fair to Scotland if we get all our best players back... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 On 10/02/2019 at 20:41, Jamhammer said: They are, unfortunately the best team in the Northern Hemisphere by a fair margin. Much as I would love my Wales to do em I just can't see it Worth a wee bump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 (edited) On 10/02/2019 at 20:41, Jamhammer said: They are, unfortunately the best team in the Northern Hemisphere by a fair margin. Much as I would love my Wales to do em I just can't see it Double post. Edited February 23, 2019 by graygo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 (edited) Triple post. Edited February 23, 2019 by graygo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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