All roads lead to Gorgie Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, Barack said: Townsend should be seething with that last 10. This. To concede 17 points in that period is criminal. You lose a player and you might concede one but that was really bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Score flattered Italy. We should have been about 50 points ahead. Hogg's try should have stood. Think the ref felt sorry for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsalldothebeattie Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 England off to a flyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 I like rugby refs - he tells Rory best "you argue with me and it's gonna be a penalty". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsalldothebeattie Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Healy bundles over & Sexton converts. Thank god Ireland lead now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 1 minute ago, letsalldothebeattie said: Healy bundles over & Sexton converts. Thank god Ireland lead now Amen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 LOL. English commentator says "superbly worked try" as Ireland gift England the easiest try you'll see all season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsalldothebeattie Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Absolute clanger from Ireland gifting England the easiest of tries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsalldothebeattie Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Hate to admit it but England looking good and clinical going forward. Ireland a lot to do second half Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilberts Fridge Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 I think England have been hard done by Garces, not a yellow, penalty perhaps. Also was not a double movement. Ireland appear to be getting away with not rolling from any tackle as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Gilberts Fridge said: I think England have been hard done by Garces, not a yellow, penalty perhaps. Also was not a double movement. Ireland appear to be getting away with not rolling from any tackle as well So how did he get over the line - it was a double movement. Even the commentators agreed. He stopped and then he pushed himself over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilberts Fridge Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Because he was driving from his feet not the knees as part of the contact. Also if it was a penalty for Ireland offside at the ruck should a penalty try not come in to it. I think Garces coms during the game have been poor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsalldothebeattie Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 28 minutes ago, Gilberts Fridge said: I think England have been hard done by Garces, not a yellow, penalty perhaps. Also was not a double movement. Ireland appear to be getting away with not rolling from any tackle as well It was a double movement if it wasn’t he wouldn’t have got over the line for the try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 21 minutes ago, Barack said: England showing how to play Ireland. Territory, territory. And smashing **** out of them, of course... Agreed, but it is dire to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Just now, Barack said: That's game over. Yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 England deserved that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 28 minutes ago, Barack said: And that really, really, is it done now. I stopped watching anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Ireland try at end puts Scotland top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted February 2, 2019 Author Share Posted February 2, 2019 (edited) Calcutta cup decider for the grand slam. Pity it's at Twickenham. Edited February 2, 2019 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bookkeeper Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 1 hour ago, ri Alban said: Calcutta cup decider for the grand slam. Pity it's at Twickenham. 1983 since we won there. I don't think the Ireland result is a good one for Scotland and expect us to feel a backlash next Saturday. Can see today being Scotland's only win though I do think we have a chance of breaking our duck in Paris (not won there since 1999). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 What a fantastic day, great atmosphere and result, sat next to a couple of jambos and had great crack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 I agree that the obstruction call for Hogg's run was probably a sympathy call. Looked like a 50:50 bit of bumping. However, I felt from there that the Scots switched off a little and lost momentum so it was quite significant. Thought Ireland were dire. They had two ideas from the rucks: up a fat lad's jumper or a box kick to May - big, safe under the high ball, May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 I thought Scotland made the changes too early yesterday and it interrupted the firm grip we had on the game around the hour mark. There was too much congratulating ourselves on a job well done at that point as well. To beat Ireland we will have to keep the strongest team on the pitch for as long as we safely can unless injuries are a factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 13 hours ago, Dawnrazor said: What a fantastic day, great atmosphere and result, sat next to a couple of jambos and had great crack. Talking of Hearts. I see that Blair Kinghorn was at Hearts academy before switching to rugby. He came across as a decent lad in his post match interview. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 20 hours ago, letsalldothebeattie said: Harsh obstruction call Agreed thought it was a wrong call. Can you get the TMO involved in these calls? If you can why didn't the referee do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 hour ago, I P Knightley said: I agree that the obstruction call for Hogg's run was probably a sympathy call. Looked like a 50:50 bit of bumping. However, I felt from there that the Scots switched off a little and lost momentum so it was quite significant. Thought Ireland were dire. They had two ideas from the rucks: up a fat lad's jumper or a box kick to May - big, safe under the high ball, May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodanny Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Agreed thought it was a wrong call. Can you get the TMO involved in these calls? If you can why didn't the referee do that? Surely in that case it involved a potential try so the TMO should have been brought in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodanny Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 hour ago, pablo said: Talking of Hearts. I see that Blair Kinghorn was at Hearts academy before switching to rugby. He came across as a decent lad in his post match interview. So a Jambo scored a hat trick yesterday ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsalldothebeattie Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 25 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Agreed thought it was a wrong call. Can you get the TMO involved in these calls? If you can why didn't the referee do that? Given they get involved for big decisions for a Try & this ended with Hogg going over, i was amazed he never asked for TMO to just have a look at it. Wouldn’t have taken long and if the TMO agreed with the ref then fair enough. It’s maybe one of those where if the TMO gets involved where does it end with them being asked to check things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 16 minutes ago, whodanny said: So a Jambo scored a hat trick yesterday ? Don't know if he's one of us or not, but his wee shimmy, drop of the shoulder dummy for one try, had a touch of football winger about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 I'm watching the Ireland v England game from yesterday and one the struck me and Mrs Dawnrazor, the Ireland team have to be the ugliest team ever, they look like the cast of One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Jersey_HMFC Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 (edited) 16 hours ago, The Bookkeeper said: 1983 since we won there. I don't think the Ireland result is a good one for Scotland and expect us to feel a backlash next Saturday. Can see today being Scotland's only win though I do think we have a chance of breaking our duck in Paris (not won there since 1999). I think our away form is always likely to let us down and mean that 3 wins and 3/4 place is our best hope until we break some of these hoodoos in Paris London and Cardiff. haven’t won an away six nations match that wasn’t in Rome in nearly a decade I.e. since Dan Parks scored the last minute pen at Croke Park in 2010. Edited February 3, 2019 by Steve_Jersey_HMFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 2 hours ago, whodanny said: Surely in that case it involved a potential try so the TMO should have been brought in. That' what I thought but I'm no expert on the rules of TMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortyJambo Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 Think the referee blew the whistle before Hogg had crossed the line, so even it the TMO had had a look at it, it wouldn't have been given as a try. The ref should really have let it play out then go back and see if there was obstruction, that way it probably would have been given as a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, Louis Litt said: Think the referee blew the whistle before Hogg had crossed the line, so even it the TMO had had a look at it, it wouldn't have been given as a try. The ref should really have let it play out then go back and see if there was obstruction, that way it probably would have been given as a try. Correct. Ref blew immediately. Not like other TMO situations quoted. Italian players could have stopped playing. Gamesmanship by the Italian which is disappointing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 Sad to see Ireland thumped by the residency XV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 5 hours ago, JackLadd said: Sad to see Ireland thumped by the residency XV. To a greater or lesser degree all the home nations are at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 6 hours ago, JackLadd said: Sad to see Ireland thumped by the residency XV. Eh? 1 hour ago, Seymour M Hersh said: To a greater or lesser degree all the home nations are at it. Yep. Ireland, England and Wales have about the same number of foreign-born players, and Scotland have more than any of those. About 22% of the players who played in the 2015 World Cup were born in a different country to the one they represented at the competition. The only country who took part in that tournament with all "home-born" players was Argentina. https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/international/rwc-over-20-per-cent-of-players-not-born-in-country-1.2388603 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted February 4, 2019 Author Share Posted February 4, 2019 5 hours ago, Ulysses said: Eh? Yep. Ireland, England and Wales have about the same number of foreign-born players, and Scotland have more than any of those. About 22% of the players who played in the 2015 World Cup were born in a different country to the one they represented at the competition. The only country who took part in that tournament with all "home-born" players was Argentina. https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/international/rwc-over-20-per-cent-of-players-not-born-in-country-1.2388603 How many residential players tho, Scotland has the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Murray Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 (edited) Edited February 4, 2019 by Adam Murray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Murray Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Don't think the graph takes into account parentage or grandparents etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 50 minutes ago, Adam Murray said: Don't think the graph takes into account parentage or grandparents etc. I thought that myself. It's a bit misleading but there's no doubt we as a country have taken advantage of residency and every other rule to gain players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Murray Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 (edited) Puts it into perspective when you see these stats from the 2011 world cup Edited February 4, 2019 by Adam Murray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Jersey_HMFC Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Team for Sat http://www.scottishrugby.org/news/19/02/07/four-changes-scotland-pursue-best-ever-performance Saturday 9 February, kick-off 2.15pm – live on BBC 15. Stuart Hogg VICE CAPTAIN (Glasgow Warriors) – 66 caps 14. Tommy Seymour (Glasgow Warriors) – 47 caps 13. Huw Jones (Glasgow Warriors) – 20 caps 12. Sam Johnson (Glasgow Warriors) – 1 cap 11. Sean Maitland (Saracens) – 37 caps 10. Finn Russell (Racing 92) – 41 caps 9. Greig Laidlaw CAPTAIN (Clermont Auvergne) – 67 caps 1. Allan Dell (Edinburgh) – 18 caps 2. Stuart McInally VICE CAPTAIN (Edinburgh) – 23 caps 3. Simon Berghan (Edinburgh) – 15 caps 4. Grant Gilchrist (Edinburgh) – 29 caps 5. Jonny Gray (Glasgow Warriors) – 47 caps 6. Ryan Wilson (Glasgow Warriors) – 42 caps 7. Jamie Ritchie (Edinburgh) – 7 caps 8. Josh Strauss (Sale Sharks) – 18 caps Substitutes 16. Fraser Brown (Glasgow Warriors) – 38 caps 17. Jamie Bhatti (Glasgow Warriors) – 12 caps 18. D’arcy Rae (Glasgow Warriors) – uncapped 19. Ben Toolis (Edinburgh) – 15 caps 20. Rob Harley (Glasgow Warriors) – 20 caps 21. Ali Price (Glasgow Warriors) – 20 caps 22. Pete Horne (Glasgow Warriors) – 38 caps 23. Blair Kinghorn (Edinburgh) – 8 caps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Steve_Jersey_HMFC said: Team for Sat http://www.scottishrugby.org/news/19/02/07/four-changes-scotland-pursue-best-ever-performance Saturday 9 February, kick-off 2.15pm – live on BBC 15. Stuart Hogg VICE CAPTAIN (Glasgow Warriors) – 66 caps 14. Tommy Seymour (Glasgow Warriors) – 47 caps 13. Huw Jones (Glasgow Warriors) – 20 caps 12. Sam Johnson (Glasgow Warriors) – 1 cap 11. Sean Maitland (Saracens) – 37 caps 10. Finn Russell (Racing 92) – 41 caps 9. Greig Laidlaw CAPTAIN (Clermont Auvergne) – 67 caps 1. Allan Dell (Edinburgh) – 18 caps 2. Stuart McInally VICE CAPTAIN (Edinburgh) – 23 caps 3. Simon Berghan (Edinburgh) – 15 caps 4. Grant Gilchrist (Edinburgh) – 29 caps 5. Jonny Gray (Glasgow Warriors) – 47 caps 6. Ryan Wilson (Glasgow Warriors) – 42 caps 7. Jamie Ritchie (Edinburgh) – 7 caps 8. Josh Strauss (Sale Sharks) – 18 caps Substitutes 16. Fraser Brown (Glasgow Warriors) – 38 caps 17. Jamie Bhatti (Glasgow Warriors) – 12 caps 18. D’arcy Rae (Glasgow Warriors) – uncapped 19. Ben Toolis (Edinburgh) – 15 caps 20. Rob Harley (Glasgow Warriors) – 20 caps 21. Ali Price (Glasgow Warriors) – 20 caps 22. Pete Horne (Glasgow Warriors) – 38 caps 23. Blair Kinghorn (Edinburgh) – 8 caps I'd have preferred to see Kinghorn in the starting XV. Not because he ran in three tries last week (Maitland or Seymour would have got them too on that wing) but more to field the box kicks from Conor Murray. Last week, May was snaffling them up without any bother; Kinghorn's a big fella who looks very confident under the high ball and I think he'd nullify the box kcik better than Maitland. Otherwise, that's a good line up. Looking forward to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Ffs just giving away tries. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Unfortunate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Loose try, loose line out Will get hammered if don't stop the mistakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Hogg got a bad one earlier after a kick ahead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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