chester copperpot Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Walker doesn't even get a game for a shite Peterborough so it's a no from me. I always liked him tho. He will come back up here with his tail between his legs and probably be on a grand a week. Just my opinion tho. Shame as there is a player in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dia Liom Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Nielson had Walker playing very well. Would trust Levein &co to do the same if Walker is motivated and fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlv2004 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 4 hours ago, Nookie Bear said: Just another of those “types” we don’t need at the club. Yes he is. Judas ***** are not desirable at most clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlv2004 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Deevers said: This for me. I would love to see him back here fully committed to the cause and fighting fit. I don't know if he is operating with the Agent he had while he was here though. If he is my fear would be that he would only be using the club to engineer a move to Sevco. There is no doubt that he can play when he is fit and his mind is in the right place though. That Does not seem to have been the case down south though. Commited to The cause? First time for everything I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 46 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: I know he lies, he said they didn’t know Haring was a midfielder then said he did. Does he lie to the people who are looking for the players? We’re not after anyone else, unless that’s changed after the Livi game. It's not like our scouting network would stop looking for better players all winter as we're only getting Vanacek in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 4 hours ago, chester copperpot said: Walker doesn't even get a game for a shite Peterborough so it's a no from me. I always liked him tho. He will come back up here with his tail between his legs and probably be on a grand a week. Just my opinion tho. Shame as there is a player in there. Not in squad today for 2-0 defeat at Barnsley Cummings on as second half sub as normal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazajmbo Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 17 hours ago, Lfhearts said: I asked Craig Levein who daz aka darren on jkb was he said not got a clue. That's nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 5 hours ago, Smithee said: It's not like our scouting network would stop looking for better players all winter as we're only getting Vanacek in I believe they’re not looking at experienced players at this time, just youngsters. I’m not sure what our Scouting network consists of to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnB Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 (edited) At his best he had something to offer the club but he shat in his own nest aided and abetted by a twatt of an agent. The only way I would have him back here would be being paid on a game by game basis. He'd have to prove himself all over again over a long probationary period before I'd offer any decent contract. Even then though, he'd be like the wayward wife/husband - would you ever again trust him fully. Edited December 26, 2018 by JohnB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 29 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: I believe they’re not looking at experienced players at this time, just youngsters. I’m not sure what our Scouting network consists of to be honest. Same as most scouting networks for clubs with our budget probably - possibly bigger due to having people with levein and mcphees experience and contacts. A couple of FT scouts maybe, plus a network of contacts around the world. Analysis technology is no doubt used too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Pasquale for King said: I believe they’re not looking at experienced players at this time, just youngsters. I’m not sure what our Scouting network consists of to be honest. But you don't need to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 22 hours ago, Pasquale for King said: No they weren’t, Levein said so. Was he lying? One coming in, end and of story, no matter you’ve heard. I’ll say it again. You are mistaken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambocub Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 1 hour ago, JohnB said: At his best he had something to offer the club but he shat in his own nest aided and abetted by a twatt of an agent. The only way I would have him back here would be being paid on a game by game basis. He'd have to prove himself all over again over a long probationary period before I'd offer any decent contract. Even then though, he'd be like the wayward wife/husband - would you ever again trust him fully. Our manager who offered him the contract clearly trusted him as he picked him majority of the time. Before he left his form wasn't what it had been , but he must've been doing something in training and games to get picked . Unless our manager and coaches are happy to pick players not trying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairyinthat Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 He wasn't good enough for us before we got shot of him and is of even less use now so forget him,former club has been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fxxx the SPFL Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 41 minutes ago, sairyinthat said: He wasn't good enough for us before we got shot of him and is of even less use now so forget him,former club has been. Correct although some on here seem to think differently obviously JW fan club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 3 hours ago, soonbe110 said: I’ll say it again. You are mistaken. You can say it all you want as far as the club is concerned as of before the Livi game we weren’t looking at anyone bar youngsters. Levein has said it, and he went over budget to sign Clare so there’s no money anyway to bring another wage onboard. But seeing as you know better who are we looking at then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: You can say it all you want as far as the club is concerned as of before the Livi game we weren’t looking at anyone bar youngsters. Levein has said it, and he went over budget to sign Clare so there’s no money anyway to bring another wage onboard. But seeing as you know better who are we looking at then? Why are you so strung out about us possibly bringing players in, but the club not telegraphing it? It’s a totally bizarre thing to get all ****ed up about? Personally I hope Levein was “lying”... I hope he was lying through his teeth and we are better as a squad because of it. Zero ****s will be given because he never said we were making signings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, Glib and Shameless Crier said: Why are you so strung out about us possibly bringing players in, but the club not telegraphing it? It’s a totally bizarre thing to get all ****ed up about? Personally I hope Levein was “lying”... I hope he was lying through his teeth and we are better as a squad because of it. Zero ****s will be given because he never said we were making signings. Because I know for a fact that we weren’t looking at anyone before the debacle at Livi, yet some people are determined that 19 players aren’t enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Because I know for a fact that we weren’t looking at anyone before the debacle at Livi, yet some people are determined that 19 players aren’t enough. Gives a **** though? If you need to improve the squad, and you have the chance to do it, you do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Glib and Shameless Crier said: Gives a **** though? If you need to improve the squad, and you have the chance to do it, you do it. We definitely do need to improve it but the wells empty and we’re not even looking to ?. A penalty taker might be an idea ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said: We definitely do need to improve it but the wells empty and we’re not even looking to ?. A penalty taker might be an idea ?. Every chance we will improve it. Hope we do. If not, then I hope the returning players and Vanacek are enough. Whether or not we stick rigidly to what the manager said regarding signings however... nope... I don’t give a shit if we do something completely different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 7 minutes ago, Glib and Shameless Crier said: Every chance we will improve it. Hope we do. If not, then I hope the returning players and Vanacek are enough. Whether or not we stick rigidly to what the manager said regarding signings however... nope... I don’t give a shit if we do something completely different. But there’s not every chance because they’re not looking to are they? He would need to free up wages by sending Mitchell back, getting rid of Hughes and I doubt if Dunne will be back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 10 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: But there’s not every chance because they’re not looking to are they? He would need to free up wages by sending Mitchell back, getting rid of Hughes and I doubt if Dunne will be back. Whether we need to free up money or not, let's not spend any on Jamie Walker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 21 minutes ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: Whether we need to free up money or not, let's not spend any on Jamie Walker. Agreed, yesterday’s man ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, Pasquale for King said: You can say it all you want as far as the club is concerned as of before the Livi game we weren’t looking at anyone bar youngsters. Levein has said it, and he went over budget to sign Clare so there’s no money anyway to bring another wage onboard. But seeing as you know better who are we looking at then? Left back, replacement for Dunne if he isnt allowed to return, creative midfielder and/or a winger and another striker to supplement Uche, MacLean and Vanacek. Players will be leaving. Edited December 27, 2018 by soonbe110 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterion Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 I would take Walker back on the provision he binned his bawbag Sevco supporting agent. Any contract offered should include a social media policy (no stupid pictures with Rangers players whilst speculation is rife) or sacrifice 50% wages etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 19 hours ago, Smithee said: It's not like our scouting network would stop looking for better players all winter as we're only getting Vanacek in He's full of contradictions and tripe. He admits he doesn't know what the scouting set-up is yet he knows for a fact they're not looking at anyone. He quotes CL saying we don't want anyone than admits he's a liar. Talk about naive. Does he seriously believe CL is going around advertising to the world his exact transfer plans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Amazing how many people are completely familiar with every aspect of Hearts scouting system and how and when CL is thinking about signings by just buying a season ticket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Bishop Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 The majority would welcome him back with open arms. A quality player who would add to the squad. He would come back hungry and determined. Not many Hearts fans playing for us now either, he knows what its all about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 52 minutes ago, Walter Bishop said: The majority would welcome him back with open arms. A quality player who would add to the squad. He would come back hungry and determined. Not many Hearts fans playing for us now either, he knows what its all about. Are you Walker's agent? He can't even get in the Peterborough squad. Cleary they've sussed he's a lazy git. If this thread is indicative of fans views, the majority of hearts fans don't want him back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingle Bells Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 We are going to need good wingers both left and right to get the best out of Vanecek, imho. Also think Niasmith wiould be a good influence on Jamie whom needs to re-boot his career abit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairyinthat Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 9 hours ago, Pasquale for King said: Because I know for a fact that we weren’t looking at anyone before the debacle at Livi, yet some people are determined that 19 players aren’t enough. And I am one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Walter Bishop said: The majority would welcome him back with open arms. A quality player who would add to the squad. He would come back hungry and determined. Not many Hearts fans playing for us now either, he knows what its all about. The majority.? So you’ve consulted every Hearts supporter. Well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Walter Bishop said: The majority would welcome him back with open arms. A quality player who would add to the squad. He would come back hungry and determined. Not many Hearts fans playing for us now either, he knows what its all about. Aye, he really owed like he knew what it was all about those last couple of seasons with us right enough. His derby performances were scintillating. What exactly does his being a fan bring to the team out of interest? Certainly not seen much evidence of it being an asset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 13 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: The majority.? So you’ve consulted every Hearts supporter. Well done. Must mean the oft quoted JKB majority. Which basically just means ‘me and my immediate group of mates’. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 I would actually forget about his previous snakeyness and accept him back if I knew he would keep himself physically fit. Let's face it, he never did. If a player wont even do that then he can GTF. Walker doing so is open to question so I'm not sure it's worth the risk. Verdict. Nut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 His only motivation going back to Scotland would be to get a move to Rangers. For that reason alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 13 minutes ago, Victorian said: I would actually forget about his previous snakeyness and accept him back if I knew he would keep himself physically fit. Let's face it, he never did. If a player wont even do that then he can GTF. Walker doing so is open to question so I'm not sure it's worth the risk. Verdict. Nut. He never looked to have any in terms of 'natural' fitness. So slow and always looked knackered. Folk wanting him to become a winger? Snakes have zero pace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, indianajones said: He never looked to have any in terms of 'natural' fitness. So slow and always looked knackered. Folk wanting him to become a winger? Snakes have zero pace. Correct. Not sure whether his perma-****edness was a natural inability to be fit or if it was a result of him never having tried in the first place. The fact is that was a total shanner when it came to being as fit as a footballer needs to be. He got by for a while through his youth and skill. But it has caught him out now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Yesterdays man. With competition getting stronger so we must. This is a retrograde step Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 2 hours ago, Jingle Bells said: We are going to need good wingers both left and right to get the best out of Vanecek, imho. Also think Niasmith wiould be a good influence on Jamie whom needs to re-boot his career abit. We've got the same number/quality of wingers now that we had before Uche got injured and that didn't turn out too badly. A (new) good winger would certainly help but as always it will be a question of priorities and finance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 5 hours ago, soonbe110 said: Left back, replacement for Dunne if he isnt allowed to return, creative midfielder and/or a winger and another striker to supplement Uche, MacLean and Vanacek. Players will be leaving. So you have no knowledge of any signings just that the squad that some said was great when we were top, after 19 signings, isn’t? Which players will be leaving? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 2 hours ago, sairyinthat said: And I am one of them. Me too really, my argument is that the club don’t it would seem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 The last decent season Walker had was several years ago now. Not sure that you can re-habilitate a player who has not played "to his best" since Neilson left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Pasquale for King said: So you have no knowledge of any signings just that the squad that some said was great when we were top, after 19 signings, isn’t? Which players will be leaving? I didn’t say I have names, neither did you, though I did tell you of one possible. I just know the positions they have been scouting and I have been told anything between 0-5 will be leaving depending on the players attitudes in most cases. Likely departures are Djoum, Martin, Sammon, Mitchell and a few of the younger players whose contracts are up in summer and will not be renewed eg Zanatta, Moore Some of the January signings could be pre-contract signings. Whether we get them in in January depends on how many go out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: I didn’t say I have names, neither did you, though I did tell you of one possible. I just know the positions they have been scouting and I have been told anything between 0-5 will be leaving depending on the players attitudes in most cases. Likely departures are Djoum, Martin, Sammon, Mitchell and a few of the younger players whose contracts are up in summer and will not be renewed eg Zanatta, Moore Some of the January signings could be pre-contract signings. Whether we get them in in January depends on how many go out. Why would Sammon go in January when his contract is til the summer? We would need to pay him off, Martin too as he’s got another 18 months. Amankwaa won’t go either. Hughes might retire if he has any decency. Mitchell must be sent back as he’s done nothing and doesn’t track back at all. Djoum would require a fee which is unlikely as he’s free to go in the summer. You don’t let youngsters go in January, again it will be at the end of the season. Even if we did it hardly frees up much money. For the last time as of before the Livi game we weren’t looking at signing anyone, how could I mention names of players that don’t exist? If we have to revisit this conversation let’s do it on the 1st of February when nobody will be happier than me if we have strengthened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 26 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Why would Sammon go in January when his contract is til the summer? We would need to pay him off, Martin too as he’s got another 18 months. Amankwaa won’t go either. Hughes might retire if he has any decency. Mitchell must be sent back as he’s done nothing and doesn’t track back at all. Djoum would require a fee which is unlikely as he’s free to go in the summer. You don’t let youngsters go in January, again it will be at the end of the season. Even if we did it hardly frees up much money. For the last time as of before the Livi game we weren’t looking at signing anyone, how could I mention names of players that don’t exist? If we have to revisit this conversation let’s do it on the 1st of February when nobody will be happier than me if we have strengthened. Quite simple really. Salmon for instance, might have 4/5 months left on his contract at Hearts at end January but if some other club offers him an 18/24 month contract he will be off. Djoums next club could be willing to pay £2-300k to get him early, who knows. Im surprised you could believe that we were not looking to bring in anyone other Vanacek in January. Most clubs bring in several every January, buys and loans, so why would we be any different. Even if we were top of the league just now we would be looking to strengthen. Looking forward to 1 Feb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S Form Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 The priority in January must be to find someone who can fill in the Naismith role when he’s not there. I know we’re never going to get someone as talented but we might be able to recruit a player with the same drive/energy. It’s frightening how we’re so dependent on one player. Every effort should be going into making sure we don’t go off the rails again if, God forbid, he picks up another injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 (edited) 43 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: Quite simple really. Salmon for instance, might have 4/5 months left on his contract at Hearts at end January but if some other club offers him an 18/24 month contract he will be off. Djoums next club could be willing to pay £2-300k to get him early, who knows. Im surprised you could believe that we were not looking to bring in anyone other Vanacek in January. Most clubs bring in several every January, buys and loans, so why would we be any different. Even if we were top of the league just now we would be looking to strengthen. Looking forward to 1 Feb. Even if Sammon had an offer it won’t be near the money we’ve wasted on him so he would be unlikely to go. I believe it’s because it’s a fact, I know it. You have nothing but assumptions etc. See you in February. Edited December 27, 2018 by Pasquale for King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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