Kev1998 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 after the cathro debacacle levein takes over,signs 18 new players of which about 5 make the grade, very ,very lucky that they did.no progressive build up from the youth ranks etc.five year plan, youre having a laugh. he has got out of jail because of uche, haring and Naismith.time to go craig ,do the right thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campbell Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 33 minutes ago, gowestjambo said: You must have a different definition of reality to me..... Clearly. I would say only being 6 points off second after one of the worst runs of injuries and form I can think of in a long time is still competing! But maybe you fit in with the rest of the entitled who think we are bigger and better than we really are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Kev1998 said: after the cathro debacacle levein takes over,signs 18 new players of which about 5 make the grade, very ,very lucky that they did.no progressive build up from the youth ranks etc.five year plan, youre having a laugh. he has got out of jail because of uche, haring and Naismith.time to go craig ,do the right thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paulo Sergio Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Kev1998 said: after the cathro debacacle levein takes over,signs 18 new players of which about 5 make the grade, very ,very lucky that they did.no progressive build up from the youth ranks etc.five year plan, youre having a laugh. he has got out of jail because of uche, haring and Naismith.time to go craig ,do the right thing It isn't a coincidence that we've crumbled after losing Naismith and Uche. Fact is our lack of quality signings have cause this complete collapse. Edited December 22, 2018 by Bring Back Paulo Sergio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 53 minutes ago, Broxburn_Jambo said: Steve Clarke FFS. How about Jose Mourinho? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumpship Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 14 minutes ago, Hector Riva said: Sack Craig? Who do we get to replace him at the moment? Martin O'Neill... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campbell Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 42 minutes ago, jockmac said: In that case I can’t wait for FOH to take over, so we can ditch this apprentice management scheme. It was only a good idea in Craig’s head anyway Clearly didn’t read the governance proposal if you think this will happen when the FOH take over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxburn_Jambo Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, graygo said: FFS. How about Jose Mourinho? What an idiotic response, why could we not get Steve Clarke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector Riva Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, jumpship said: Martin O'Neill... Aye. He would be good right enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisley Jambo Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 53 minutes ago, Koolkeith said: Levein is not going anywhere this season. I’ll judge him at the end. Makes sense. Bottom six he needs to revert to DoF and stay away from first team influence. Top four progress and due another season. 5th or 6 th no mans land Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campbell Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, Kev1998 said: after the cathro debacacle levein takes over,signs 18 new players of which about 5 make the grade, very ,very lucky that they did.no progressive build up from the youth ranks etc.five year plan, youre having a laugh. he has got out of jail because of uche, haring and Naismith.time to go craig ,do the right thing Who are the 5 and did you think only 5 were good enough after the first 9 games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Enjoy Xmas, folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Griswold Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 What’s Billy Davies up to these days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbee647 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 12 minutes ago, JamboPete said: I would go for Gary Holt, done a very good job with Falkirk before going to Norwich and has done an amazing job with Livingston. Clearly a very talented coach/manager. No thanks, Holt is just a front at Livvy, the guy who pulls the strings is Dave Martindale, he was also influential during Hopkins time there too Holt failed at Norwich and hardly set the heather on fire at Falkirk either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Broxburn_Jambo said: What an idiotic response, why could we not get Steve Clarke? For the reasons that have been discussed on here and elsewhere many many times. I'll summarize it for you to make it simple. Steve Clarke will not be the next Hearts manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trapper John McIntyre Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, Broxburn_Jambo said: What an idiotic response, why could we not get Steve Clarke? You're upsetting the uberfan minority who run JKB. Watch out, mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trapper John McIntyre Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 1 minute ago, jbee647 said: No thanks, Holt is just a front at Livvy, the guy who pulls the strings is Dave Martindale, he was also influential during Hopkins time there too Holt failed at Norwich and hardly set the heather on fire at Falkirk either I think you're right. Its what I've heard also. Martindale is the brains and Holt is the front. A bit like the Leishman/Hay combination years ago. Apparently the main reason Kenny Miller walked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingle Bells Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 There are better Managers out there that can get a team to punch well above it's weight and win trophies for the Club. He is to caught up in his own footballing prejudices, which have brought little success in the past, to achieve that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo_Gaz Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Sexton Hardcastle said: Aye six points of second place sack your manager. Welt. That attitude has us where we are today. Loser mentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Trapper John McIntyre said: You're upsetting the uberfan minority who run JKB. Watch out, mate. Orrrr..... It's already been discussed over several threads why SC won't be the next Hearts manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lsimp77 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, Broxburn_Jambo said: What an idiotic response, why could we not get Steve Clarke? Because we’re hearts, not Manchester United. Why the **** would Clarke come to us? What does he have to gain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, Paisley Jambo said: Makes sense. Bottom six he needs to revert to DoF and stay away from first team influence. Top four progress and due another season. 5th or 6 th no mans land Levein has to stay as manager or leave altogether. Going back to D.o.F. only resolves nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonnicky63 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Absolute rubbish thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Bridge of Djoum said: Orrrr..... It's already been discussed over several threads why SC won't be the next Hearts manager? Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trapper John McIntyre Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 1 minute ago, lsimp77 said: Because we’re hearts, not Manchester United. Why the **** would Clarke come to us? What does he have to gain? True. Clarke's too good for Scottish football. But I bet he's really enjoying life right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Bishop Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 I have said on here before, I would like to have seen Jody Morris. Sue he would have jumped at the chance to mange Hearts 6 months ago, no chance now. Played in Scottish football plenty of contacts and took Chelsea youth team on a 2 year unbeaten run. Football has moved on massively in the past 10 years, Just look at how outdated Mourinho has looked this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trapper John McIntyre Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Gambo said: Levein has to stay as manager or leave altogether. Going back to D.o.F. only resolves nothing. Leave preferably. Both roles. We are going nowhere under his tutelage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 1 minute ago, maroonnicky63 said: Absolute rubbish forum. Sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 (edited) Ole Gunnar Solskjær getting a reaction 3-1 (for now) how would a replacement for Levein get a reaction with our team over the last few games? Edited December 22, 2018 by Dannie Boy Score update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 What did he say in his post match interview? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paulo Sergio Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Jingle Bells said: There are better Managers out there that can get a team to punch well above it's weight and win trophies for the Club. He is to caught up in his own footballing prejudices, which have brought little success in the past, to achieve that.. There are better managers that we could get. Anyone who think Levein is the best manager we can afford is a ****ing idiot. It's evident he's one dimensional in his approach and signs too many duds that don't provide adequate cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Jambo_in_Hamilton said: What did he say in his post match interview? Bring on Hamilton! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jockmac Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, campbell said: Clearly didn’t read the governance proposal if you think this will happen when the FOH take over Disagree, when Ann steps down, then the super close, I’ve got your back, relationship is no more. Of course things can be different, managers and their ways of working are always under scrutiny, especially when things don’t go well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Hood09 said: Enough is enough. Fans are continually putting funds into the club and he is just not the man to take us forward at all. Something has to be done so we can get a forward and progressive manager in the door so we can move forward. Defeat by Hibs and an exit to livi in the cup and the season is over. We need to get away from the cosy relationship Craig and Ann have and he needs to be taken to task on the dross we are seeing. As she acknowledged herself, it's not good governance having her as major shareholder, CEO and Chairman. Equally, having Levein as DOF , manager and board member is unhealthy. Budge needs to appoint a football man as CEO, a Campbell Ogilvie type, in order to end her supposed reliance in Levein. His methods are dated and he needs replaced by a more progressive manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartandsoul Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 19 minutes ago, Kev1998 said: after the cathro debacacle levein takes over,signs 18 new players of which about 5 make the grade, very ,very lucky that they did.no progressive build up from the youth ranks etc.five year plan, youre having a laugh. he has got out of jail because of uche, haring and Naismith.time to go craig ,do the right thing An excellent summary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haken Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Haven't read the full thread. Has 'relegation dogfight' been used? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev1998 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 where exactly are we now from when cathro was emptied? are the youths clamouring at the door of the first team ? this season must be the biggest chance we had of making a real impact,and yes I was full of hope at the start of the campaign, injuries taken very much into consideration,but expecting a lot better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, Haken said: Haven't read the full thread. Has 'relegation dogfight' been used? It hadn't up till now, thanks for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven_mck Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Would Steve Clarke want the job? Have doubts. He came back to Scotland to manage the club where he's from. Only club he'd leave Killie for in Scotland would probably be Celtic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 There are mitigating circumstances, obviously, but the performances levels and results are really poor. We should still have been capable of taking points v. Killie, St. Mirren and Livingston. The lack of urgency, intent, guile and creativity is depressing. For me, we'll tread water with Levein until 2020 when Ann hands over control to FoH then take a new road. No way, imo, will Craig survive her way going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Expecting a bit of desire or passion today. Wasn't there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 26 minutes ago, To Be Frank said: We’ll put that theory to the test on Wednesday ?? Beat me to it Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Can’t be arsed writing a big spiel... 1) Craig Levein is going nowhere. Ann said as much. 2) Even if he was, it would happen in May 2019 at the earliest. 3) 4th is our objective, it is still very much on. 4) We’ll be a much better team again after the winter break. 5) Surely no-one expected us to win today ?? 6) Beat Hamilton and Hibs and no one will be moaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 10 minutes ago, Dannie Boy said: Bring on Hamilton! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, steven_mck said: Would Steve Clarke want the job? Have doubts. He came back to Scotland to manage the club where he's from. Only club he'd leave Killie for in Scotland would probably be Celtic. If we offered Killie enough and him enough and CL wasn’t here, then of course he would. Money talks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Agentjambo said: Right so if killie have Brophy and Stewart and Findlay and Boyd injured do you think they would still be where they are now? Right, Steve Clarke was speaking this week about how he can happily rotate players like Kris Boyd, Scott Boyd, Brophy and Jordan Jones, safe in the knowledge that he has equally good replacements. So, the answer is that they would be doing just as well given that they have a far stronger squad than us, despite us signing 19 players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Cruyff Turn said: Can’t be arsed writing a big spiel... 1) Craig Levein is going nowhere. Ann said as much. 2) Even if he was, it would happen in May 2019 at the earliest. 3) 4th is our objective, it is still very much on. 4) We’ll be a much better team again after the winter break. 5) Surely no-one expected us to win today ?? 6) Beat Hamilton and Hibs and no one will be moaning. Precisely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev1998 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 roll on 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campbell Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 12 minutes ago, jockmac said: Disagree, when Ann steps down, then the super close, I’ve got your back, relationship is no more. Of course things can be different, managers and their ways of working are always under scrutiny, especially when things don’t go well. I’m not arguing about the closeness of budge and Levein I’m saying “we” ( I guess you mean the foh) won’t have any power to change the business model, you would know this if you read the governance proposal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDF01 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sexton Hardcastle said: Aye six points of second place sack your manager. Welt. If it wasn’t Levein as manager, I expect you would be wanting a new manager in. We shouldn’t be six points off 2nd place and the way we are playing at the moment we’ll soon be a lot more points behind. Not long ago we were 13 points in front of the sheep. Welt. Edited December 22, 2018 by TDF01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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