Top Corner Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Not the most positive of threads but i'm finding it hard to be positive about anything on field related at the moment. For certain: Amankwaa, Hughes Mulraney Mclean Edwards On thin ice: Lee Wighton Claire Bozanic Mitchell Godinho I know we won't get rid of them all but that's my thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, Top Corner said: Not the most positive of threads but i'm finding it hard to be positive about anything on field related at the moment. For certain: Amankwaa, Hughes Mulraney Mclean Edwards On thin ice: Lee Wighton Claire Bozanic Mitchell Godinho I know we won't get rid of them all but that's my thoughts. My god you are desperate to appear relevant on here. Go take a walk, have a pint or something. Take a break from spouting negative, repetitive pish continually. Start a thread about why you support Hearts or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVB Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Wouldn’t get rid of MacLean, Lee, Mitchell or Bozanic. Probably keep Hughes and Godinho. The rest I think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 I'd keep MacLean. He was doing great with Naismith and Uche. He wasn't signed to play every week nor up front on his tod. Vanecek arriving means he won't feature as much anyway. Amankwaa not worth keeping. Edwards will just be loaned out until his contact is up. We need a proper left back. Garuccio is second choice but Mitchell no where near what we need though happy to see him get a run of games further up the park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 18 out. 18 in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gorgie Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Bozanic has shown glimpse of being a no bad player. Lee has been good but lost his way, like most of the team to be fair. Wighton meh was never at the level for us IMO. Mitchell never a left back. Clare, well the budget was broken to get him in, had more than enough time to get up to speed. Just not cut out for the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Corner Posted December 15, 2018 Author Share Posted December 15, 2018 (edited) My reasoning for the likes of Mclean and Hughes is the lack of pace they have. Mulraney has a shed load of pace but if he's not even getting a sniff of a subs bench, what's the point in keeping him? I agree that Bozanic has shown glimpses of a player and he's done better than a lot of them recently but i'm still not sure he's good enough. Edited December 15, 2018 by Top Corner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Corner Posted December 15, 2018 Author Share Posted December 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, Bridge of Djoum said: My god you are desperate to appear relevant on here. Go take a walk, have a pint or something. Take a break from spouting negative, repetitive pish continually. Start a thread about why you support Hearts or something. Maybe share your thoughts on why we should keep a hold of some of these players instead of just being a prat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Top Corner said: Maybe share your thoughts on why we should keep a hold of some of these players instead of just being a prat. They're under contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Corner Posted December 15, 2018 Author Share Posted December 15, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Oliver Twist said: They're under contract. That doesn't mean you can't tell them that they're free to find a new club. Anyway, This is just a thread on who you would get rid of to free up wages for new players. As i said, i doubt we'll get rid of any of them. Edited December 15, 2018 by Top Corner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Really need to question where the **** Mulraney is, was trusted against celtic then disappears?? Offers good pace and could be useful when the other team start to get leggy. Would love an explanation on this.. I don't think Hughes has anymore to offer. I'd rather we went out and found an 18 year old that was getting his game at a lower level. Mclean is pissing me off. A ****ing statue if i've ever saw one. Reckon Nade could put in more of a shift. Djoum has the heart of a mouse and to my mind offers very little in tough games. This was the sort of game we needed him to get on the ball and drive through the middle. He seems to hide when we need him most. We need an attacking midfielder with character. If we could get another player with Naismiths sort of attitude that would be excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famous 1874 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Hughes Mulraney Edwards Amankwaa Djoum (only if we don’t plan on offering him a new deal, otherwise definitely keep him) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, Top Corner said: Maybe share your thoughts on why we should keep a hold of some of these players instead of just being a prat. Maybe refer yourself to the threads already in place on this subject? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Corner Posted December 15, 2018 Author Share Posted December 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, OTT said: Really need to question where the **** Mulraney is, was trusted against celtic then disappears?? Offers good pace and could be useful when the other team start to get leggy. Would love an explanation on this.. I don't think Hughes has anymore to offer. I'd rather we went out and found an 18 year old that was getting his game at a lower level. Mclean is pissing me off. A ****ing statue if i've ever saw one. Reckon Nade could put in more of a shift. Djoum has the heart of a mouse and to my mind offers very little in tough games. This was the sort of game we needed him to get on the ball and drive through the middle. He seems to hide when we need him most. We need an attacking midfielder with character. If we could get another player with Naismiths sort of attitude that would be excellent. Agreed. Djoum is a tricky one though. He's a good player without a doubt but we don't seem to get the best out of him. I suppose that's the case with Mitchell as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Corner Posted December 15, 2018 Author Share Posted December 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Bridge of Djoum said: Maybe refer yourself to the threads already in place on this subject? Maybe refer yourself to the doctors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 I’d wait until the summer before binning anyone. Certainly wouldn’t be binning MacLean who has been excellent when paired with Naisy. He was brought in as back up but is being expected to play a lone striker role every week. Thankless task. Yes, the jury is out on most of them but they deserve the season at least, things could change quite quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joondalupjambo Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Mulraney was on the bench last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Just now, Top Corner said: Maybe refer yourself to the doctors. If I'd realized I were talking to a 14yo I'd not have bothered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ministry of Football Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Letting players go and getting new ones is something we will clearly need to do to freshen things up. The question that needs to be asked however is, do we once again let the manager pick the new recruits. For every good player we seem to employ, we also get 3 or 4 duds. This is not working... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Amankwaa, Hughes Mulraney Wighton loan once we have everyone back Recall aidan kenna Players in Naismith pre contract Halkett pre contract James Meredith pre contract or Danny fox pre contract David Milinković loan with optional fee at the end of Loan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson5 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 24 minutes ago, Oliver Twist said: 18 out. 18 in. ? Exactly. Everyone knows how our transfer windows operate by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Corner Posted December 15, 2018 Author Share Posted December 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, Bridge of Djoum said: If I'd realized I were talking to a 14yo I'd not have bothered. Make sure you ask a posters age before you comment then. I'm sure everyone will tell you that they're 14. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Bongo 1874 said: Amankwaa, Hughes Mulraney Wighton loan once we have everyone back Recall aidan kenna Players in Naismith pre contract Halkett pre contract James Meredith pre contract or Danny fox pre contract David Milinković loan with optional fee at the end of Loan And Glen kamara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Ministry of Football said: Letting players go and getting new ones is something we will clearly need to do to freshen things up. The question that needs to be asked however is, do we once again let the manager pick the new recruits. For every good player we seem to employ, we also get 3 or 4 duds. This is not working... Complete and utter bollocks. The players we recruited had us top of the league until we lost the core of the team. There won't be a massive recruitment of new players in January without shifting other players on, and someone has to want them. Only a complete halfwit would want to replace our manager now with a couple of weeks until the winter break when our best players are due to return imminently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicTs Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Amankwaa was brought on to play 80 minutes in a major semi-final in front of nigh on 30,000 Hearts fans. Let that sink in. Mulraney could barely get a game for ICT in the Championship yet we signed him. Let that sink in. Edwards was signed and sent out on loan. Let that sink in. I could go on. And this after several total cluster**** transfer windows overseen by our then DoF, now Head Coach. No accountability. No pressure. The cushiest job in British football. Dismal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 I see this thread has turned into a game of FM2018. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Just now, Agentjambo said: And Glen kamara Would be a good addition also agree but think we would need to get rid of even more ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Bridge of Djoum said: I see this thread has turned into a game of FM2018. Why not FM 2019 mate u still playing last year's aye ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, frankblack said: Complete and utter bollocks. The players we recruited had us top of the league until we lost the core of the team. There won't be a massive recruitment of new players in January without shifting other players on, and someone has to want them. Only a complete halfwit would want to replace our manager now with a couple of weeks until the winter break when our best players are due to return imminently. But we aren't allowed to blame a downswing in performances on injuries. Come on, Frank, get with it lad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Bongo 1874 said: Why not FM 2019 mate u still playing last year's aye ?? Still on 2016 mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Corner Posted December 15, 2018 Author Share Posted December 15, 2018 11 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: Amankwaa, Hughes Mulraney Wighton loan once we have everyone back Recall aidan kenna Players in Naismith pre contract Halkett pre contract James Meredith pre contract or Danny fox pre contract David Milinković loan with optional fee at the end of Loan Good post. Some thought put into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastSideJambo Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, magicTs said: Amankwaa was brought on to play 80 minutes in a major semi-final in front of nigh on 30,000 Hearts fans. Let that sink in. Mulraney could barely get a game for ICT in the Championship yet we signed him. Let that sink in. Edwards was signed and sent out on loan. Let that sink in. I could go on. And this after several total cluster**** transfer windows overseen by our then DoF, now Head Coach. No accountability. No pressure. The cushiest job in British football. Dismal. Getting players out once we've furnished them with the terms on offer isn't easy. We need only look to Oshinawa, Sammon, Martin and Edwards for evidence Sammon will be on a minimum of £3k a week given where he came from. That's £450,000 over the duration of a 3 year deal. That's a minimum as he might be on more. He'll have spent 30 months of that 36 month deal out on loan at teams where you'll be luck if the clubs pay £1k a week to their players. That's well over £300,000 spunked on one player. If you add the other 3 I've mentioned the figure is probably closer to £1M. A club of our size can't absorb that He asked AB to sign off on all these deals. He'll get credit for Naismith and Berra but they were hardly a risk. Both are undeniably quality. Trouble is they're supplemented with utter gash We've got lucky with Haring. Otherwise it's a largely uninspiring pile of dross that he's recruited I've no idea how much more we've got to suffer. In our 4th season back we should have a core of a squad in place and be able to supplement it would quality. Instead it's a scattergun approach with mass movement inward and outward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class of 75 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, magicTs said: Amankwaa was brought on to play 80 minutes in a major semi-final in front of nigh on 30,000 Hearts fans. Let that sink in. Mulraney could barely get a game for ICT in the Championship yet we signed him. Let that sink in. Edwards was signed and sent out on loan. Let that sink in. I could go on. And this after several total cluster**** transfer windows overseen by our then DoF, now Head Coach. No accountability. No pressure. The cushiest job in British football. Dismal. Totally agree mate. But some on here are too eager to sweep it under the carpet and ignore the warning signs. Fans burying their heads in the sand is why we are in this mess now Edited December 15, 2018 by Class of 75 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Godinho Smith (get a fee, move on in my opinion. Better out there. Yes he tries, but he often takes the unadventurous option attacking wise Cochrane (same deal as above, so much hype but he's never stood out) Hughes Mitchell (quite obvious to me that he believes he's doing us a favour being here. Football doesn't work like that. Would rather have a young guy there that Hearts is his dream move and he'll work his socks off Amankwaa (not a fan of us hanging him out to dry like we did v Celtic. But I don't think he's right for the league anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Corner Posted December 15, 2018 Author Share Posted December 15, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, EastSideJambo said: Getting players out once we've furnished them with the terms on offer isn't easy. We need only look to Oshinawa, Sammon, Martin and Edwards for evidence Sammon will be on a minimum of £3k a week given where he came from. That's £450,000 over the duration of a 3 year deal. That's a minimum as he might be on more. He'll have spent 30 months of that 36 month deal out on loan at teams where you'll be luck if the clubs pay £1k a week to their players. That's well over £300,000 spunked on one player. If you add the other 3 I've mentioned the figure is probably closer to £1M. A club of our size can't absorb that He asked AB to sign off on all these deals. He'll get credit for Naismith and Berra but they were hardly a risk. Both are undeniably quality. Trouble is they're supplemented with utter gash We've got lucky with Haring. Otherwise it's a largely uninspiring pile of dross that he's recruited I've no idea how much more we've got to suffer. In our 4th season back we should have a core of a squad in place and be able to supplement it would quality. Instead it's a scattergun approach with mass movement inward and outward Remember this time round it's Levein's gash. Apparently he had nothing to do with any of the players signed while he was director of football. (so much gash) Ann will know the truth though. As much as she likes Craig and has a great relationship with him, It's a business she's running. I think Craig knows the pressure is on now. You could see it when he was calling the ref's out (rightly) and going on about it being his lively hood. I have a lot of time for Craig Levein and i'm not saying he should go. I'm just pointing out that we've wasted a hell of a lot of money on players on his watch. Edited December 15, 2018 by Top Corner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastSideJambo Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Top Corner said: Remember this time round it's Levein's gash. Apparently he had nothing to do with any of the players signed while he was director of football. (so much gash) Ann will know the truth though. As much as she likes Craig and has a great relationship with him, It's a business she's running. I think Craig knows the pressure is on now. You could see it when he was calling the ref's out (rightly) and going on about it being his lively hood. He's probably done a very good job behind the scenes since Administration. But this is now too much. He looked like a reluctant recipient of the managerial post last August. It's all unravelling now We could lose at Pittodrie and Easter Road in the next fortnight and some would continue to be defiant in their support of him We are going nowhere with this guy. We need to wake up to that and fast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Corner Posted December 15, 2018 Author Share Posted December 15, 2018 (edited) Mind how average Naismith was when he "didn't get a pre season" last year Who's to say he's gonna be the same when he gets back from his injury? A lot of people are relying on Vanecek before he's even kicked a ball in the SPFL as well. I just hope plans are in place if this all goes tits up. I'd honestly give Jon Daly a chance before looking for any new manager. Any time he's stepped in he's done very well. Also loved it when he told Rodgers where to go! Edited December 15, 2018 by Top Corner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Top Corner said: Not the most positive of threads but i'm finding it hard to be positive about anything on field related at the moment. For certain: Amankwaa, Hughes Mulraney Mclean Edwards On thin ice: Lee Wighton Claire Bozanic Mitchell Godinho I know we won't get rid of them all but that's my thoughts. You could add a number of the loan signings to your list. Sammon Martin Moore Zanatta Baur I think we might keep Irving, Keena and Henderson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Top Corner said: Not the most positive of threads but i'm finding it hard to be positive about anything on field related at the moment. For certain: Amankwaa, Hughes Mulraney Mclean Edwards On thin ice: Lee Wighton Claire Bozanic Mitchell Godinho I know we won't get rid of them all but that's my thoughts. How do we get rid of any of them short of paying out the rest of their contracts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, Top Corner said: Mind how average Naismith was when he "didn't get a pre season" last year Who's to say he's gonna be the same when he gets back from his injury? A lot of people are relying on Vanecek before he's even kicked a ball in the SPFL as well. I just hope plans are in place if this all goes tits up. I'd honestly give John daly a chance before looking for any new manager. Any time he's stepped in he's done very well. Also loved it when he told Rodgers where to go! As someone posted earlier another 18 out and 18 in should sort it out. There's bound to be a couple of half decent players in there. That's how it's done isn't it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Corner Posted December 15, 2018 Author Share Posted December 15, 2018 Just now, wavydavy said: You could add a number of the loan signings to your list. Sammon Martin Moore Zanatta Baur I think we might keep Irving, Keena and Henderson. Definitely Keep Keena. I'd also of recalled Zanatta and dare i say it... Sammon after Naismith and Uche got injured. Not sure if that was possible though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Top Corner said: That doesn't mean you can't tell them that they're free to find a new club. Anyway, This is just a thread on who you would get rid of to free up wages for new players. As i said, i doubt we'll get rid of any of them. Again, how do we just ‘get rid of them’ ? Who is going to sign them and pay them the same as we are paying them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: How do we get rid of any of them short of paying out the rest of their contracts? One of the players he mentions is a loan signing and three are out of contract at the end of the season, just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Corner Posted December 15, 2018 Author Share Posted December 15, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: Again, how do we just ‘get rid of them’ ? Who is going to sign them and pay them the same as we are paying them? You can't just get rid of them but you can agree a deal for them to leave or tell them they're not in your plans and are free to find a new club. You can tell agents to try and get them a move etc. It all depends on how long their contracts are and what sort of money they're on as well. Some players like to sit and take the money (Malaury Martin, Oshiniwa) , some players (probably on less money) would prefer to find a new club and get more game time. Edited December 15, 2018 by Top Corner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Corner Posted December 15, 2018 Author Share Posted December 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, wavydavy said: One of the players he mentions is a loan signing and three are out of contract at the end of the season, just saying. Thanks for that McPhee. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gedster Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Garucchio another one who looks absolute pony. On last night's showing it's obvious why he's rarely played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 33 minutes ago, EastSideJambo said: Getting players out once we've furnished them with the terms on offer isn't easy. We need only look to Oshinawa, Sammon, Martin and Edwards for evidence Sammon will be on a minimum of £3k a week given where he came from. That's £450,000 over the duration of a 3 year deal. That's a minimum as he might be on more. He'll have spent 30 months of that 36 month deal out on loan at teams where you'll be luck if the clubs pay £1k a week to their players. That's well over £300,000 spunked on one player. If you add the other 3 I've mentioned the figure is probably closer to £1M. A club of our size can't absorb that He asked AB to sign off on all these deals. He'll get credit for Naismith and Berra but they were hardly a risk. Both are undeniably quality. Trouble is they're supplemented with utter gash We've got lucky with Haring. Otherwise it's a largely uninspiring pile of dross that he's recruited I've no idea how much more we've got to suffer. In our 4th season back we should have a core of a squad in place and be able to supplement it would quality. Instead it's a scattergun approach with mass movement inward and outward So we got lucky with Haring but not unlucky with some others. How does that work? You seem to be an expert on players' salaries. Do you work for HMRC or are you just spouting sh*te to suit your argument? All signings are a risk but maybe you could say who you think we should sign that could be guaranteed successes and also let us know their salaries to confirm we can afford them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 36 minutes ago, EastSideJambo said: Getting players out once we've furnished them with the terms on offer isn't easy. We need only look to Oshinawa, Sammon, Martin and Edwards for evidence Sammon will be on a minimum of £3k a week given where he came from. That's £450,000 over the duration of a 3 year deal. That's a minimum as he might be on more. He'll have spent 30 months of that 36 month deal out on loan at teams where you'll be luck if the clubs pay £1k a week to their players. That's well over £300,000 spunked on one player. If you add the other 3 I've mentioned the figure is probably closer to £1M. A club of our size can't absorb that He asked AB to sign off on all these deals. He'll get credit for Naismith and Berra but they were hardly a risk. Both are undeniably quality. Trouble is they're supplemented with utter gash We've got lucky with Haring. Otherwise it's a largely uninspiring pile of dross that he's recruited I've no idea how much more we've got to suffer. In our 4th season back we should have a core of a squad in place and be able to supplement it would quality. Instead it's a scattergun approach with mass movement inward and outward Post sums you up perfectly. Poor signings are Leveins fault, good signings ‘’we got lucky’ - your words. Re 4th season back, maybe if you and your pals hadn’t tried to chase Neilson out we would have a more solid squad core in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Corner Posted December 15, 2018 Author Share Posted December 15, 2018 1 minute ago, gedster said: Garucchio another one who looks absolute pony. On last night's showing it's obvious why he's rarely played. I dunno, I didn't add him to my list purely because he doesn't get a good run in the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, wavydavy said: One of the players he mentions is a loan signing and three are out of contract at the end of the season, just saying. End of the season is May not January. Loan deals involve contracts. Usually only injury can cancel them. Just saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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